Re: Stus-List Tuning the mast

2019-08-20 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
What are the symptoms of an uncentered mast? I have noticed that I regularly see slower speeds on one tack (I need to pay more attention to confirm which tack) even after trying to tune the sails well, and under regular wind/current conditions. I don't have a knot meter, and only use Navionics for

Re: Stus-List Tuning the mast

2019-08-20 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I had the same problem last year. Obviously tide and current can affect that, but one thing I discovered on my boat is the asymmetry of the genoa tracks. My genoa is very sensitive to car position/angle of genoa lead. We used to use the screw heads showing on the track to set the two cars and

Re: Stus-List Tuning the mast

2019-08-20 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
You usually get a slower speed on one tack due to wave direction. One tack is always favored as you usually have the waves more head on. I use the Selden mast tuning method as it can be done on any boat without special tools. You just need a metric ruler to adjust the shroud tension. http://www

Re: Stus-List Tuning the mast

2019-08-20 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
If the mast tip is off center with no tension on the standing rigging then there is problem with the partners (the place where it penetrates the deck) or a problem with the foot. The extruded piece of aluminum we call the mast should stand nearly perfectly straight and centered with no outside for

Stus-List Tuning the mast.

2019-08-20 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
I am following this thread with great interest. I measured distances using the main halyard and believe my mast is plumb. The partners and foot hold the mast centred as far as I can tell and as long as the boat, keel and rudder are symmetrical. I continue to point higher and get better performan

Re: Stus-List Tuning the mast.

2019-08-20 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I might be stating the obvious, but the boats are not completely symmetrical. They are, after all, made by hand by humans and they all have various imperfections. So the shape might be a bit different on stb or port; the boat might be listing in one direction; the keel and rudder might not be 10

Stus-List Tuning the mast

2019-08-20 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
Surely the shrouds are always the same length, so you can see the turnbuckles to make sure the two sides are similar. For many years I was told our boats leaned to one side or the other, and that I should plan on getting them to lean to starboard (the favored tack in the Bermuda Race) . . . but

Re: Stus-List Tuning the mast.

2019-08-20 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Or, you could have a Monday morning boat like mine. When I was trying to center the mast, I discovered the chainplate on the starboard side was an inch closer to the rail than the port one. Gary 30-1 – 1980 (maybe a Friday afternoon boat before vacation time?) From: CnC-List On Behalf

Re: Stus-List Tuning the mast

2019-08-20 Thread Michael Crombie via CnC-List
I too am following this thread with interest. My 33 mkii leans slightly to starboard and is faster on starboard tack. Was always a source of mild anxiety. I was very careful with my mast tuning, so i felt i had eliminated that as the cause. My water tank and ice box (always full of beer) are on s

Stus-List Tuning the mast.

2019-08-20 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
Hopefully you have a Monday boat – not Friday . . . . For many years at the Niagara Plant, rum bottles were produced at 3 pm . . . . . And often workers got home a bit late those days . . . After a few crashes into snow drifts the practice was curtailed . . . . . I’m not sure the boats came out

Stus-List Please remove from list

2019-08-20 Thread Gerry Beltgens via CnC-List
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Stus-List Barber haulers and whisker poles

2019-08-20 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I have been reading about Barber Haulers to help with reaching by getting the clew further outboard and keeping the leech from twisting off. I was thinking of a snatch block on the toe rail and a line snap shackled to the clew attachment point to accomplish this. However, I have also seen peop

Re: Stus-List Please remove from list

2019-08-20 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Barber haulers and whisker poles

2019-08-20 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Dave, here’s an article with pic I wrote for Cruising world. I only get the pole out to go wing and wing. Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middletown, RI USA02842 www.burtonsailing.com http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Aug 20, 2019, at 15:48, Da

Re: Stus-List Barber haulers and whisker poles

2019-08-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
If you have a twing for your chute you can also try that instead of a snatch block. With a snatch block we use the lazy sheet to run through the block and then switch sheets. Joel On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 3:54 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Dave, here’s an articl

Re: Stus-List Barber haulers and whisker poles

2019-08-20 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I also only use the whisker pole for wing and wing. You can be creative with configuring a barber hauler using various things on board. From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 3:53 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Re: Stus-List Barber haulers and

Stus-List barber haulers and whisker poles

2019-08-20 Thread Barry Lenoble via CnC-List
Hey, Generally, the whisker pole is used if you are sailing downwind and the barber hauler if you are reaching. On my boat, if I am doing a windward / leeward race, we will have genoa and mainsail in tight for upwind work. Once we round the mark and head downwind we will run wing and wing with th

Re: Stus-List Barber haulers and whisker poles

2019-08-20 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
We use the spinnaker twing also. Opens up the slot nicely. Gary 30-1 From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 4:13 PM To: cnc-list Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Barber haulers and whisker poles If you have a twing for your chute yo

Re: Stus-List barber haulers and whisker poles

2019-08-20 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Thanks for this description of a barber hauler - I will give this a try, as reaching with the big genoa in lighter air has proven a challenge at times. -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 1:30 PM Barry Lenobl

Stus-List more on external effects of wind on mast tune-Coriolis effect | Definition of Coriolis effect at Dictionary.com

2019-08-20 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/coriolis-effect Rick Rohwer 509 306 1094 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send c

Stus-List I used to do this and got lazy some years ago!

2019-08-20 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
Good info thx Rick Rohwer 509 306 1094 > On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:48, David Knecht via CnC-List > wrote: > > I have been reading about Barber Haulers to help with reaching by getting the > clew further outboard and keeping the leech from twisting off. I was > thinking of a snatch block on

Stus-List Mast tuning for crew

2019-08-20 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
I had a wonderful crew member (and beautiful woman) who totally unbalanced my (then) Cal 20! l really hated to see her go. Haunts me to this day! I guess I should have had a bigger C&C. Rick Paikea 37+ BREMERTON, WA Rick Rohwer 509 306 1094 > On Aug 20, 2019, at 10:18, Rob Ball via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Tuning the mast

2019-08-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Yeah, what Rob says. Lots of factors can make a boat faster on one tack than the other. I've never even come close to assuming Touche' was square, symmetrical or otherwise perfect. Our boats are imperfect, particularly the older models. In addition to rig alignment and tuning, weight distributi

Re: Stus-List Barber haulers and whisker poles

2019-08-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
First, if you are racing, having the whisker pole on the same side as the boom may be prohibited in certain jurisdictions. Barber hauling is a complicated configuration. Basically, you are setting a triangle using two sheets to change location of the clew of the genoa. Generally, "barber haulers"

Stus-List C&C 24 mast spreader assembly replacement part

2019-08-20 Thread David Minkley via CnC-List
Hi all, I just discovered this email list and it seems very informative! If this isn’t the type of question I should be asking here, please let me know (my apologies). I’ve recently become responsible for a mid-to-late 70’s C&C 24, the spreaders for which had been previously detached from the

Re: Stus-List C&C 24 mast spreader assembly replacement part

2019-08-20 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
First, you're doing it right. No worries. Second, welcome. Third, it looks like you found the right part and the right place to buy it. Admittedly rig-rite does not have a modern internet purchasing platform but you can call during business hours and they will get it sent out. Josh Muckley S/V

Stus-List Tuning the mast

2019-08-20 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Since we agree our boats are probably not symmetrical, I suggest you racers out there factor in your favoured tack and use it to your advantage. I have no intention of feather boarding my keel and rudder for symmetry, there is cold beer in my refrigerator too! C&Cs still pass 99% of the competit

Re: Stus-List Barber haulers and whisker poles

2019-08-20 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Dennis, thanks for the detailed info. I'm trying to understand picture it all, but am unclear on which sheet goes through the snatch block on the rail? I have genoa tracks on the side deck but they are used for the inner 95% jib. The outer genoa uses blocks on the toerail, which I haven't tried rel

Re: Stus-List barber haulers and whisker poles

2019-08-20 Thread Wade Glew via CnC-List
Can I ask Barry, is the barber hauler sheet on the Genoa Lew led to the snap shackle from outside the lifelines or inside? Wade Oh Boy C&C 33 MKII On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 15:30 Barry Lenoble via CnC-List, < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hey, > > Generally, the whisker pole is used if you are sai