Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-19 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
n. > > > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > > > Original message > From: JP Mail via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 7/18/17 3:42 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: JP Mail <jon.peterpr...@gmail

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-19 Thread David via CnC-List
com Cc: JP Mail <jon.peterpr...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road Correct. This guy had stabilizers out and dragging a net. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>

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2017-07-19 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
What “working boat” rule exactly does he think there is? Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fry via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:12 PM To: cnc-list Cc: Brian Fry Subject: Stus-List Rules of

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread henry evans via CnC-List
Bill Bina is quite correct about doing what the regulations expect of you. That applies to the point where you become "in extremis".  That point must be determined by the Master of the stand on vessel at the time and is always subject to review and judgement by the courts in cases where

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
Got it. Jon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2017, at 5:32 PM, BillBinaList via CnC-List > wrote: > > You still need to go back and read rule 13 until you understand it. The > colregs are deliberately vague and some rules supercede others depending on > situation.

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread BillBinaList via CnC-List
That is covered in the colregs. Rule 2, as I have mentioned several times now. :-) Bill Bina On 7/18/2017 4:30 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote: I agree with sticking to the rules, but I will not endanger my passengers by sticking to

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
*Commercial Fishing with gear*, not Billy and Bubba with some lines over ;) From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of JP Mail via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: JP Mail <jon.peterpr...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List

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2017-07-18 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
I agree with sticking to the rules, but I will not endanger my passengers by sticking to them while I let an idiot ram my boat. That's all I'm sayin' With respect, Jon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List > wrote: > >

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2017-07-18 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
Yes. As I said, license to learn. "Each of these vessels must keep out of the way of the next vessel. For example, a sailboat must keep out of the way of a vessel engaged in fishing, which in turn must keep out of the way of a vessel with restricted maneuverability. And everyone must keep out

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2017-07-18 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
Failure to really know and UNDERSTAND the colregs is why boats hit boats. Congratulations on your license, but you may still have some larnin' to do, son. Colregs depend on everyone knowing and doing what is expected, but allows for those who don't. A stand on vessel that gives way is screwing

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2017-07-18 Thread Jim Reinardy via CnC-List
ff like he had driven under a low bridge at high speed.  I guess some people never learn, though I hope he did not injure someone else in that incident.  Jim Reinardy C 30-2 "Firewater"Milwaukee, WI  Original Message ---- Subject: Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road From: Dav

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread henry evans via CnC-List
Rules notwithstanding, when safety and common sense indicates to get the hell out of the way, for Pete's sake do it ! Hank EvansM/V Queen Ann's Revenge On Tuesday, July 18, 2017, 2:46:24 PM CDT, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote: This is why boats hit boats. Sorry I mentioned

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
This is why boats hit boats. Sorry I mentioned it. Me personally, with license sitting in the desk at home, I would give way to a vessel with gear down and dragging a net. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List > wrote: > >

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2017-07-18 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
ust have a bad attitude towards us >> "yachties" >> >> Either it's black or white with them...competent or maliciously >> incompetent. >> >> 1981 40-2. >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone >> >> >> --

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2017-07-18 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
hties" >>> >>> Either it's black or white with them...competent or maliciously >>> incompetent. >>> >>> 1981 40-2. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone >>> >>> >>

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
See also Rule 2, and Rule 13. There is no such thing as "right of way" except for one specific instance in the inland rules. The fishing vessel was in the wrong in this case as described. :-) Bill Bina On 7/18/2017 3:19 PM, JP Mail via CnC-List wrote: Vessel engaged in Fishing is restricted

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
gt;> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone >> >> >> Original message >> From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Date: 7/18/17 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List <cn

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
incompetent. > > 1981 40-2. > > > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > > > Original message > From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 7/18/17 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.c

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
; > Date: 7/18/17 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road > > when we were on our 22 foot sailboat we got swamped by a bis a$$ powers > boat'

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread David via CnC-List
> Cc: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road when we were on our 22 foot sailboat we got swamped by a bis a$$ powers boat's wake because he couldn't be bother to give us any room and passed us about 20 feet off our bow throwing a 4' wake. Then they had the ner

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2017-07-18 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
when we were on our 22 foot sailboat we got swamped by a bis a$$ powers boat's wake because he couldn't be bother to give us any room and passed us about 20 feet off our bow throwing a 4' wake. Then they had the nerve to wave... My wife waved back with 1 finger while hanging off the shrouds.

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2017-07-18 Thread Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List
Glad you were able get away without any damages... I have had a few of these here in Chesapeake. Once the "captain" of the power boat actually turned around and yelled at me for not changing course... Cheers, AR > On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:32 AM, robert via CnC-List >

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread henry evans via CnC-List
I hope you got on the radio with a Security warning to the Coast Guard and   Local Marine Police of a boat operating in a dangerous and illegal manner and identified the boat, course and speed to warn others.  That usually gets the offender's attention and sometimes motivates law enforcement to

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
You were absolutely the stand on vessel. You also had(have )the responsibility to avoid collision. You also have the right to yell, "HEY F-CKTARD" BUY A BOOK" as he passes your stern. Just sayin'. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:51 AM, detroito91 via CnC-List

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2017-07-18 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Try buying a powerboat. Most powerboaters will sort of reluctantly admit sail has right of way, but no way in hell will a big powerboat EVER yield to a small one - EVER. I learned real fast with my ski boat I was completely invisible to the bigger powerboats. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List

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2017-07-18 Thread robert via CnC-List
No name on the boat but I would recognize it if I saw it again. On 2017-07-18 12:36 PM, jhnelson via CnC-List wrote: Any idea of the boat name/colout? Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: robert via CnC-List Date: 2017-07-18 11:30

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
But the Law of Gross Tonnages will beat anything… :^) — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:51 AM, detroito91 via CnC-List > wrote: > > Common sense overcomes pure stupidly and lack of knowledge.

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List
Common sense overcomes pure stupidly and lack of knowledge. Jim Schwartz SEA YA!38 LFWashington nc  Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: robert via CnC-List Date: 7/18/17 10:30 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
There are a lot of rental boats, power and sail, near me. I've learned not to assume that other operators know what they are doing or who has rights. The worst are the SailTime rentals. The cats are generally motoring a straight line. Glad you were paying attention! Joel On Tue, Jul 18, 2017

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread jhnelson via CnC-List
Any idea of the boat name/colout? Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: robert via CnC-List Date: 2017-07-18 11:30 (GMT-04:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert Subject: Stus-List Rules of the Road

Re: Stus-List Rules of the Road

2017-07-18 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
That happens, people are clueless, and in the USA at least, commercial has nothing to do with it either. Joe Coquina -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:31 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com