Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-09 Thread David via CnC-List
Call Edson and ask about your options... David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 06:15:53 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: captnga...@gmail.com I don't think cutting the rudder tube

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-09 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
I don't think cutting the rudder tube would be my first choice. I will probably go with attachment to the quadrant, even though there are risks associated with that , also. Thanks for your help. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-08 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
I’m pretty sure I have the same setup as Ken, using an Octopus linear drive connected to the quadrant. The drive is on a shelf inside the port-side access hatch next to the helm seat. I should be getting the Enterprise back this weekend and I’ll take some photos for you. I won’t bother with

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-08 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
That’s a Simrad linear hydraulic drive: http://www.simrad-yachting.com/en-GB/Products/Autopilots/Drive-Units/HLD2000L-Drive-Unit-en-gb.aspx Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 8, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-08 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
I suspect if you try for Josh's set up you'll likely have to drop the rudder to take to a machine shop to cut a key-way into it as there isn't likely to be a slot for a key where you will need it. Ken H. On 7 July 2015 at 18:17, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The means

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-08 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
That looks very stout. We don't have the plywood bulkhead running from the rudder tube back to the transom on out boat. That would certainly help make up for any loss of strength from cutting the rudder tube. Our mount for the ram is similar to what Josh has but the ram is much higher up, in

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Well... the PO had to. On Jul 8, 2015 8:47 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Josh, Now I understand that you had to cut the rudder post housing in order to use the standard Edson arm. Thanks for the pictures. Fair winds, Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Wed,

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-08 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Josh, Now I understand that you had to cut the rudder post housing in order to use the standard Edson arm. Thanks for the pictures. Fair winds, Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Pictures and video

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread RAYMOND SHIBE via CnC-List
You guys better be careful, the Foredeck Cow is gonna get you.   On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:22 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: HI Gary,   I was asking which 37plus you bought.  LOL   I'm still shopping myself...   Danny

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Hi Josh, The fibreglass tube my rudder shaft passes through is continuous from the hull to the floor of the cockpit and so provides no place to mount an arm below deck. I like this arrangement as it results in no opening into the interior of the hull from the rudder tube below deck (except for a

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Let me know if this link works to a couple of photos: https://plus.google.com/photos/+KenHeaton/albums/6168788765520268033 There is normally also a small rod connecting the rudder position sensor to the quadrant but it was removed before we took these photos. Ken H. On 7 July 2015 at 08:57,

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sea Hawk came with a simrad package already installed. There is a shelf which appears to be 3/4 plywood encapsulated and glassed to the hull under the stbd propane locker. The hydraulic piston is mounted to the shelf and drives a bronze arm attached to the rudder shaft. The feedback positionner

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Link works On Jul 7, 2015 11:39 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Let me know if this link works to a couple of photos: https://plus.google.com/photos/+KenHeaton/albums/6168788765520268033 There is normally also a small rod connecting the rudder position sensor to the

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
That’s a standard Edson autopilot tiller arm; it’s the preferred way of attaching the ram to the rudder post below-decks, assuming you’ve got enough room to do that. Some of our CCs, mine included, won’t allow that luxury, so the pilot’s ram needs to be attached (preferably to a reinforcement

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Wow! That goes way back! Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:24 PM, RAYMOND SHIBE via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You guys better be careful, the Foredeck Cow is gonna get you. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:22 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The means of access is through the aft berth. If you perform the install with the boat in the water you'll have to use something like a pipe cutter since the rudder shaft will be in the way. I have heard of being able to attach a strong rope to the rudder bail and lowering the rudder out of, or

Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
This looks great. I was thinking about doing the exact same setup on my 34+. The quadrant configuration is identical. I like that better than cutting the rudder post tube except that I have read on the Edson site that mounting a hydraulic ram directly to the quadrant was not recommended.. It

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Ken, Before I get beat up too bad about the pros and cone of my arrangement I'll reenforce the fact that I had nothing to do with the design or implementation. Additionally I have had little or no trouble with the system and/or the function of the boat. Now that the disclaimer is out of the

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
I will try to send you some pics of my ram on 37+ tomorrow. Rick Paikea currently in Langley, Whidbey Island, WA On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:02 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I just bought a 37 Plus and want to install a below deck autopilot. Has anyone done this?

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Great! Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Rick Rohwer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I will try to send you some pics of my ram on 37+ tomorrow. Rick Paikea currently in Langley, Whidbey Island, WA On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:02 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
This also can act as a nice backup if your quadrant somehow fails, allowing you to still steer the boat. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: And finally, mounting

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Gary Russell captnga...@gmail.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 7:08 am Subject: Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot Hi Edd

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Mine is the same setup as Edd's. I'll look to see if I have photos this evening. Ken Heaton Anne Tobin S/V Salazar - Can 54955 CC 37/40 XL - Hull # 67 Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia On 7 July 2015 at 07:49, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Gary, The Enterprise came

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Obi-Wan Ken Heaton always comes through All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B CC 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Ken, Terrific! That would be very helpful. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Mine is the same setup as Edd's. I'll look to see if I have photos this evening. Ken Heaton Anne Tobin S/V Salazar - Can 54955 CC

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Edd, Pictures would be great! I'm especially interested in how the attachment is made to the quadrant. Live long and prosper... Thank you, Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Gary, The Enterprise came with

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
, which one did you buy? I've looked at couple of them locally. Danny South Coast MA -- Original Message -- From: Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Gary Russell captnga...@gmail.com Subject: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Message -- From: Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Gary Russell captnga...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 06:12:27 -0400 Hi Danny, I haven't bought anything yet, but am

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
HI Gary, which one did you buy? I've looked at couple of them locally. DannySouth Coast MA -- Original Message -- From: Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Gary Russell captnga...@gmail.com Subject: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Gary, The Enterprise came with a Robertson autopilot installed. The ram is installed on a shelf inside the access area on the port side next to the helm seat and connects to the steering quadrant. I should be getting the boat back this week and I'll take some pictures for you. The

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 06:02:47 -0400 I just bought a 37 Plus and want to install a below deck autopilot. Has anyone done this? I am interested in the details of how (and where) to mount the ram. Pictures would be wonderful. Thanks,GaryS/V High

Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
I just bought a 37 Plus and want to install a below deck autopilot. Has anyone done this? I am interested in the details of how (and where) to mount the ram. Pictures would be wonderful. Thanks, Gary S/V High Maintenance 1990 CC 37 Plus East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~

Re: Stus-List 37 Plus Below-Deck Autopilot

2015-07-07 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Josh, Is the rudder shaft exposed under the deck (I haven't crawled down there yet), where you can clamp the bronze arm? Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Sea Hawk came with a simrad package already