Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
tercup), but Bob Way > was legendary. Ah, the good old days. > > From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via > CnC-List > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:55 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Bill Coleman > Subject: Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification >

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
remember Masker II (later Buttercup), but Bob Way was legendary. Ah, the good old days. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 3:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification I think this

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
hanging on that. Bill Coleman Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bailey White via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 1:45 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bailey White Subject: Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification Happy Friday to everyone

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
If I exceed 2000 psi on Touche's backstay, the hull flex will result in separation of the aft 6-8 inches of the keel from the hull. It's only cosmetic but I will have to re-fair it at the next haul out. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:45 PM Bailey White

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Possibly different diameter standing rigging. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:45 AM Bailey White via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Happy Friday to everyone. I've enjoyed the discussions this week. > > 2000 psi on a hydraulic backstay for a large keelboat is not very much and > seems over

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-12 Thread Bailey White via CnC-List
Happy Friday to everyone. I've enjoyed the discussions this week. 2000 psi on a hydraulic backstay for a large keelboat is not very much and seems overly conservative to me, particularly with the large headsails that many of our boats have. We used to routinely go to 4000 psi on a 33 foot Santa

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I wish I could do that. Touche' has a rod back stay. Probably due to the fact that it had a Hood SeaFoil fore stay when I purchased the boat. For the younger folks, a Hood Seafoil was essentially a fairly large rod with two grooves. Basically a rod version of a Tuff Luff. So rod opposed rod.

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-11 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
I have a decal on my gauge with both psi and pounds shown. I have decals for different size cylinders. My gauge is difficult to read, but a mark on the gauge at the maximum allowable force is all I need to make sure I don't go over. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Thu,

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-11 Thread schiller via CnC-List
Just to clarify the clarifications, the force will be the area of the piston minus the area of the rod.  The adjuster is pulling the wire/rod. Neil Schiller 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan WLYC On 6/11/2020 9:01 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote: If the gauge was special

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-11 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I check the tension on my backstay with my Loos tension gauge same way i do shroud tension. the gauge on my Navtec Hydraulic backstay tensioner is also clouded after many years but still readable and Its reading compares favourably with the Loos gauge at 1200 psi which is what i carry on my upper s

Re: Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-11 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
If the gauge was specially printed for the size of the piston, it might actually read tension. If it is just a generic pressure gauge, tension would be PSI x Area of Piston in Square Inches. (i.e 1000 PSI on 2 square inches = 2,000 pounds of tension) Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I On 6/

Stus-List Back stay tension clarification

2020-06-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
We had this discussion many years ago on this list. I think I recall that this is tension (in pounds) on the wire/rod. I think the reading on a hydraulic back stay adjuster gauge is pressure (in psi) on the piston. If so, they are not the same. I think you have to convert the psi reading to ten