Re: Stus-List Grounding

2020-05-30 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
gt;> >> >> ---- Original message >> From: Dave S via CnC-List >> Date: 5/30/20 10:33 AM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Neil Andersen >> Cc: Dave S , cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding >> >> Feels like a leading (but g

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2020-05-30 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
m: Brian Davis > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 07:32:16 -0400 > Subject: Stus-List Grounding > Hello everyone, > > Hope you quarantine projects are going well. > > I have a question about grounding. I'm currently refitting ALL wiring

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2020-05-30 Thread Brian Davis via CnC-List
t;> ---- Original message >> From: Dave S via CnC-List >> Date: 5/30/20 10:33 AM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Neil Andersen >> Cc: Dave S , cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding >> >> Feels like a leading (but good) quest

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2020-05-30 Thread David Castor via CnC-List
> > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > > Original message > From: Dave S via CnC-List > Date: 5/30/20 10:33 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: Neil Andersen > Cc: Dave S , cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding > > Feels li

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2020-05-30 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
e S , cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding Feels like a leading (but good) question, lol - and I’d expect the ‘grounds’ could be at different potentials and that this delta would vary based on the ground at different marinas. You’ve made me curious, will measure the ground

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2020-05-30 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
May 30, 2020 9:41:36 AM > *To:* Neil Andersen > *Cc:* Brian Davis ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Grounding > > Interesting question. The term ‘ground’ probably should be distinguished > from the negative side of the dc circuit.

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2020-05-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
power (AC side and 12V side)? Neil Andersen Rock Hall, MD 21661 *From:* Dave S *Sent:* Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:41:36 AM *To:* Neil Andersen *Cc:* Brian Davis ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Grounding

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2020-05-30 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
: Stus-List Grounding Interesting question. The term ‘ground’ probably should be distinguished from the negative side of the dc circuit. Can’t speak to more sophisticated boats but in my relatively simple 33-2 The AC system is isolated, grounded only when connected to shore power. I do not run

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2020-05-30 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
; Rock Hall, MD > -- > *From:* CnC-List on behalf of Dave S via > CnC-List > *Sent:* Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:18:24 AM > *To:* Brian Davis ; C Stus List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Cc:* Dave S > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Grounding > > Essentially yes, however when you

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2020-05-30 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Where do you actually go to “ground” off the bus?? Neil Andersen 1982 C 32 Rock Hall, MD From: CnC-List on behalf of Dave S via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:18:24 AM To: Brian Davis ; C Stus List Cc: Dave S Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding

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2020-05-30 Thread Brian Davis via CnC-List
panel and the >>> other accessories that are measured by my battery/power consumption >>> monitor. This is the shunt that victron provides with the BMV-700. >>> >>> >>> https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LeNHHo5kK2k/V5V0MaFJ_cI/AAAAAkc/VI_Cm3z-Aa0m_dZ9AmlgaeVdXmXQOINk

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2020-05-30 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
9AmlgaeVdXmXQOINkgCLcB/s1600/blog%2Bgrounding%2B2.jpg >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Brian Davis >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Dat

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2020-05-30 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
. From: CnC-List on behalf of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 8:51:43 AM To: C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding Negative battery goes to the ground buss too. ONE wire from the ground buss to the engine. Josh Muckley S /V Sea Hawk

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2020-05-30 Thread Brian Davis via CnC-List
Got it. Thank you to ALL! On Sat, May 30, 2020, 8:52 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Negative battery goes to the ground buss too. ONE wire from the ground > buss to the engine. > > Josh Muckley > S /V Sea Hawk > 1989 C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > > > On Sat, May 30,

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2020-05-30 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Negative battery goes to the ground buss too. ONE wire from the ground buss to the engine. Josh Muckley S /V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sat, May 30, 2020, 08:12 Brian Davis via CnC-List wrote: > Gotcha. I sent you my diagram. Just want to make sure I'm clear. So the > Grounding

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2020-05-30 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
-- Forwarded message -- From: Brian Davis To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bcc: Date: Sat, 30 May 2020 07:32:16 -0400 Subject: Stus-List Grounding Hello everyone, Hope you quarantine projects are going well. I have a question about grounding. I'm currently refitting ALL wiring from

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2020-05-30 Thread Brian Davis via CnC-List
Gotcha. I sent you my diagram. Just want to make sure I'm clear. So the Grounding bus and the Negative battery both connect to the same engine bolt? On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 8:10 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > You do run a wire to the engine, usually 2 gauge,

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2020-05-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
You do run a wire to the engine, usually 2 gauge, but only one. Many boats ends up using the engine block as a ground bus with wires hooked up all over it. Joe On 5/30/2020 8:01 AM, Brian Davis via CnC-List wrote: Thanks, Joe! I did get a galvanic isolatot, but forgot to say that. The Blue

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2020-05-30 Thread Brian Davis via CnC-List
Thanks, Joe! I did get a galvanic isolatot, but forgot to say that. The Blue Sea bus link you sent is exactly what i have. But what does that connect to? If not the engine then where? Brian On Sat, May 30, 2020, 7:53 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Don't use

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2020-05-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Don't use the engine for ship's ground. Use one of these: https://www.bluesea.com/products/2127/MaxiBus_250A_BusBar_-_Four_5_16in-18_Studs Your AC ground bus will connect to that ground point as well. Speaking of AC, make sure you have a galvanic isolator. Run ONE ground wire to the

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2020-05-30 Thread Brian Davis via CnC-List
Hello everyone, Hope you quarantine projects are going well. I have a question about grounding. I'm currently refitting ALL wiring from scratch on our 1980 Landfall 38. I literally gutted every piece of wire and bought all new Ancor tinned marine cables in every guage you can imagine. She's

Re: Stus-List Grounding chart plotter

2017-04-13 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
lt;davidakne...@gmail.com <mailto:davidakne...@gmail.com>> > To: CnC CnC discussion list <CnC-List@cnc-list.com > <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com>> > Subject: Stus-List Grounding chart plotter > Message-ID: <788f7990-9eb6-45d8-b9f9-0e7bdce62...@gmail.com > <mailto:78

Re: Stus-List Grounding chart plotter

2017-04-13 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Dave — tie the shield to the negative power wire at the power supply lead to the plotter. I’m sure there’s no RF grounding system on most of our boats; you start seeing it on larger vessels or those with SSB installations. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) --

Stus-List Grounding chart plotter

2017-04-13 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi- I am installing a new Raymarine e95 chart plotter and am confused by the instructions with respect to grounding. The cable includes both a Negative (black) wire and a black Ground (drain) wire. Here is what the install manual says: Grounding — Dedicated drain wire The power cable

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-27 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
power cord from a hit on a nearby boat or power pole. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 09:42 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-27 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Now that would have made one hell of a YouTube Video! Bill Coleman C 39 Erie, PA Last week a soft ball player in Nova Scotia was hit and survived. As she reached out to open the door on a storage shed, the shed was struck by lightning. The current went up her arm and out her foot,

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-26 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I've heard of using copper pipe (1/2 or 3/4) and a conduit bender. Shape the pipe to go as straight as possible between a keel bolt and the mast. Then flatten the ends and drill a hole to accept a large bolt. You can drill and tap the very top of one of the keel bolts to accept a short 5/16ths

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-26 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List
2016 12:16 Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki Thanks to Joe and everyone else who replied.  After reading a few articles like this one - http://www.practical-sailor.com/blog/-11222-1.html, it sounds like there is little consensus on

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-26 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
. Frerker via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 12:17 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ronald B. Frerker Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki Correct me if wrong, but I was under the impression that no wire size could carry the load of a lightning strike. The grounding is to bleed off

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2016-07-26 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
, July 26, 2016 12:16 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki Thanks to Joe and everyone else who replied. After reading a few articles like this one - http://www.practical-sailor.com/blog/-11222-1.html, it sounds like there is little consensus

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2016-07-26 Thread S Thomas via CnC-List
y, July 26, 2016 12:16 Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki Thanks to Joe and everyone else who replied. After reading a few articles like this one - http://www.practical-sailor.com/blog/-11222-1.html, it sounds like there is little consensus on lightning protection for sailb

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-26 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Thanks to Joe and everyone else who replied. After reading a few articles like this one - http://www.practical-sailor.com/blog/-11222-1.html, it sounds like there is little consensus on lightning protection for sailboats. I'd be curious to know what sort of lightning protection, if any, comes

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-25 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
a hole in a hull. Cheers, Randy - Original Message - From: "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:27:54 AM

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-25 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki This is not exactly the case. Keep in mind that a lighting generates a current in thousands of A. That high current generates magnetic field around it. In turn this magnetic field generates current in any conductor

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-25 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:00 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle <ryanpdo...@gmail.com> Subject: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki Hey guys, Wondering if anyone can describe to me how they've

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2016-07-25 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert > Boyer via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:40 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Robert Boyer > Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki > > Lightning is actually attracted to a grounded object. My boat has been

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-25 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
10:39 AM To: mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki I run 4 gauge wire from the bottom of my mast to the nearest keel bolt. This is vastly better than nothing. If you really want to get into it, you would need to tie

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-25 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
-List Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:01 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki Hey guys, Wondering if anyone can describe to me how they've ground their mast. I have a 1976 30mki and we got caught out in a very fast-moving t-storm this weekend and I

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-25 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11:40 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Robert Boyer Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki Lightning is actually attracted to a grounded object. My boat has been hit by lightning twice--mast was grounded to keel bolt. Most of my electronics were fried each time

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2016-07-25 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
nday, July 25, 2016 10:39 AM > To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' > Cc: Della Barba, Joe > Subject: Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki > > I run 4 gauge wire from the bottom of my mast to the nearest keel bolt. This > is vastly better than nothing. > If you really want to get

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-25 Thread Bernard Bauman via CnC-List
I’ve heard in the past of this being done, but using chain. Does anyone know of instances where this actually works and prevents lightening bolt from entering the cabin? Bernie Ex C 25 (hull # 342) Shopping for a new boat Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Della Barba, Joe via

Re: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-25 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
off and ruined the battery switch with no other damage -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:00 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki Hey

Stus-List Grounding a mast - 30mki

2016-07-25 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Hey guys, Wondering if anyone can describe to me how they've ground their mast. I have a 1976 30mki and we got caught out in a very fast-moving t-storm this weekend and I realized I should have done this when I bought the boat last fall. My mast step is not original. It is a big, fat piece

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2015-04-08 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Wow, great story! From my Android phone Original message From: Alex Giannelia via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 04/07/2015 9:02 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com Subject: Stus-List GROUNDING Hi  Dennis,   Sorry to hear

Stus-List GROUNDING

2015-04-07 Thread Alex Giannelia via CnC-List
Hi Dennis, Sorry to hear about your grounding, but better than all of us having to set your boat out into Lake Pontchartaine and firing blazing arrow at her.. Get well soon. I have a bit of a similar story if the listers want to read on...it has a sailing twist... A number of years ago,