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2024-02-16 Thread Glenn Henderson via CnC-List
Good hint about the oil. It makes sense. Thanks! Glenn Henderson On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 4:38 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I just went through all that myself in the last couple of years. Kind of > like filling your car tires. At first, I borrowed one of my cr

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2024-02-15 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
I just went through all that myself in the last couple of years. Kind of like filling your car tires. At first, I borrowed one of my crewmates nitrogen tank and regulator, as he had one for his airplane landing gear. I think it only went to 500 lb. Plus it was a little constraining with the short

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2024-02-15 Thread Glenn Henderson via CnC-List
Didn you recondition a boom vang? If so, where did you get the nitrogen recharge accomplished? Glenn Henderson WeGo C&C 41 On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 12:10 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Glad it worked for you. You're welcome. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandevi

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2024-02-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Glad it worked for you. You're welcome. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandevile, LA On Wed, Feb 14, 2024, 7:15 AM Tom A via CnC-List wrote: > Shout out to Dennis for helping me replace the end seals on my Navtec, > > Tom A > > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site

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2024-02-14 Thread Tom A via CnC-List
Shout out to Dennis for helping me replace the end seals on my Navtec, Tom A Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu

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2024-01-09 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hey Dennis, No worries. Your ram sounds good to go. My long story, longer: It's been two years since my Navtec adventure. At the time, I watched many YouTube videos on rebuilding hydraulic rams, and thought "I can do that". The two seals on the piston are made of a very hard rubber and sit

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2024-01-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Chuck, Don't disagree with anything you said. The seals I replaced were probably the simplest ones in the unit requiring no special tools. As I alluded to in my post, it was a simple rebuild with no mitigating issues. I chose to not replace the main piston seals. Fortunately, they seem to be d

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2024-01-08 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
FWIW, I tried to rebuild my backstay ram two summers ago and learned the hard way, I didn't have the proper tools to do it myself. I wound up taking the thing to a local shop and they finished it for me. I got a rebuild kit from Offshore Spars and followed the detailed instructions that Dennis

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2024-01-08 Thread paul.hood via CnC-List
Date: 2024-01-07 10:40 p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: Stus-List , CnClist Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Stus-List Re: Navtec hydraulic backstay - amateur rebuild Great detailed write-up Dennis! If I had known it was coming, I might have done the equivalent rebuild of my 28 year old Navtec/Sailtec unit m

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2024-01-07 Thread cenelson--- via CnC-List
Great detailed write-up Dennis!  If I had known it was coming, I might have done the equivalent rebuild of my 28 year old Navtec/Sailtec unit myself. Alas, I just picked it up from my local hydraulic shop after a complete rebuild including the internal seals, etc. about 3 weeks ago! Initially th

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2024-01-07 Thread Peter McMinn via CnC-List
Dennis, this is super description complete with part numbers. Thanks! Interested to hear any updates on your diy assembly. The Navtec on my 37 doesn’t leak fluid, but may be low or time to change. Recovery after each pump is slow. Peter McMinn _/) On Sun, Jan 7, 2024

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2024-01-07 Thread Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
Thank you for sharing this. I will keep it as reference. C&C 33-2 Bruno Lachance Le 7 janv. 2024 à 15:45, Dennis C. via CnC-List a écrit :  A fellow boater had a Navtec integral hydraulic backstay adjuster that blew the top seal. As many of you know, this is probably the most common failure

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2024-01-07 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Very cool write-up and project. Thanks for sharing. From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 3:44 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Stus-List Navtec hydraulic backstay - amateur rebuild A fellow boater had a Navtec integral hydraulic backstay adjuster that blew the top

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2022-07-27 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
> > > Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. > > > - > From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 10:28:53 AM > To: Stus-List > Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman &

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2021-04-20 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
: Stus-List Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman Subject: Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be free I have never taken a hydraulic backstay adjuster apart so have no firsthand knowledge of whether an adjuster is similar to a tractor hydraulic system or not. Surely the principle is the

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2021-04-20 Thread Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
rtant and expensive piece of hardware. Jeff Laman 1981 C&C34 "Harmony" Ludington, Mi From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 10:18 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay a

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2021-04-20 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Back in the day the local hydraulic shop worked on these and autopilot rams for us at “farmer and bulldozer driver” prices, not boat prices. They are not all that different than anyone else’s hydraulics. Joe Della Barba Coquina Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to h

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2021-04-20 Thread Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
days when it warms up and I finish what needs to be done before going in the water. Jeff Laman 1981 C&C34 "Harmony" Ludington, Mi From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 10:02 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Stus-L

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2021-04-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
If you're talking about a traditional cylinder/ram style hydraulic adjuster, a complete leak of all fluid should not result in the loss of the rig. The rod and piston will simply extend to the maximum and stop. The piston will be at the top of its travel against the plug in the top of the cylinde

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2021-04-20 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Sorry, but I seem to be missing something. My split hydraulic backstays have leaked in the past, to I initially just set the backstay tension using the turnbuckle to a light air setting at the dock and put it on my list for future repairs. Now they're fixed ( and yes, more story on that to come)

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2021-04-19 Thread Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
while sailing. Jeff L. From: Riley Anderson Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:38 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be free Thanks for your comment, Jeff. I agree that adjuster failure a

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2021-04-19 Thread Riley Anderson via CnC-List
t; > > ---------- > *From:* Gary Newton via CnC-List > *Sent:* Monday, April 19, 2021 8:35 AM > *To:* Stus-List > *Cc:* Gary Newton > *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be > free > > Has anyone rebuilt a Sailtec hydr

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2021-04-19 Thread Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
"Harmony" Ludington, MI From: Gary Newton via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 8:35 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Gary Newton Subject: Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be free Has anyone rebuilt a Sailtec hydraulic backstay adjuster? I have one that was on my 1

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2021-04-19 Thread Gary Newton via CnC-List
> > From: cenelson via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:06 PM > To: Stus-List > Cc: cenelson > Subject: Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be free > > I had mine rebuilt at a local hydraulic shop (lots of

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2021-04-18 Thread Lee via CnC-List
Riley,if the backstay adjuster doesnt sell on e/bay I would be interested in taking it off your hands Thanks,Lee Christiansen 1987 35 MK3.  -Original Message- From: Riley Anderson via CnC-List To: Stus-List Cc: Riley Anderson Sent: Thu, Apr 15, 2021 5:54 pm Subject: Stus-List Navtec H

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2021-04-18 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
st@cnc-list.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:06 PM > *To:* Stus-List > *Cc:* cenelson > *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be > free > > > > I had mine rebuilt at a local hydraulic shop (lots of farmer implements > use hydraulics)

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2021-04-17 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
, NC From: cenelson via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:06 PM To: Stus-List Cc: cenelson Subject: Stus-List Re: Navtec Hydraulic backstay adjuster, soon to be free I had mine rebuilt at a local hydraulic shop (lots of farmer implements use

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2021-04-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I wasted a few boat bucks with a so called Navtec shop in Houston. They might have scratched the shaft and done more harm. Only lasted 4 years before it started leaking. When I got it back, I had to pump the handle several dozen times before it finally started working. The Houston shop said th

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2021-04-15 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
I' been said many times on this list, and I'll say it again: Lew Townsend in Seattle is the man to do all your hydraulic work. (206) 498-7282. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 7:01 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >

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2021-04-15 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Not for nothing, I have a shitshow story about Navtech and a Florida firm that I'm waiting for the dust to settle before I share the details. Let's just say between incompetence and unwillingness to stand behind their work, I will be giving zero stars with 8 x 12 color photographs with circles an

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2021-04-15 Thread cenelson via CnC-List
No. They had everything they needed. Considering the volume and the size of the kind of cylinders they usually deal with, I got the impression that fixing my ‘dinky little cylinder’ was something they could do over lunchtime— especially since the bore was fine.  While I might be simplifying it a

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2021-04-15 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
I have a split backstay and dual hydraulic adjusters. I rebuilt both a couple years ago for about $26 in parts. Rebuilding it is nothing to be afraid of. Anything you need can be ordered from Hercules hydraulics through a hydraulics shop if necessary. A manual hydraulic adjuster is a pretty simple

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2021-04-15 Thread Riley Anderson via CnC-List
Charlie, that's good to hear. Did you also have to buy the seal kit or did the hydraulic shop have what you need? On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 6:06 PM cenelson via CnC-List wrote: > I had mine rebuilt at a local hydraulic shop (lots of farmer implements > use hydraulics) about 8 yrs ago for $260. > >

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2021-04-15 Thread cenelson via CnC-List
I had mine rebuilt at a local hydraulic shop (lots of farmer implements use  hydraulics) about 8 yrs ago for $260. Still no leaks—! Charlie Nelson Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Thursday, April 15, 2021, 5:54 PM, Riley Anderson via CnC-List wrote: Hello all,  I'm getting rid of my

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2021-01-20 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Lew does all my hydraulic work. One time he even followed up his repair with a phone call to make sure everything was satisfactory. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 3:54 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Dwight. > > Lew T

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2021-01-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Dwight. Lew Townsend in Seattle is the best hydraulic adjuster repair person. I wanted to get him to repair mine two years ago. He was about to go cruising for 3 weeks so I had it serviced at a "Navtec certified" shop closer to me. Two years later it is leaking again. It is right now on its wa

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2021-01-20 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
Strictly Hydraulics in Burnside, very good at ir. Rod From: dwight veinot via CnC-List Sent: January-20-21 5:45 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: dwight veinot Subject: Stus-List Navtec hydraulic backstay Mine needs some seals replaced. Can anyone in the Halifax Nova Scotia area refe