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We have a relatively new to us 1985 41. The windows and hatches had been replaced by the previous owner. Hatches were done right, the side windows were bedded in silicone, not right. I had to re-bed one of them already but did not get all traces of the silicone off so it did not take. Need to d

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Rex: Below is a description of the window installation project on our C&C 32 done some years agoI have posted this here several times so for the C&C listers that have previously read this, use your 'DELETE' key. Trusting this might help and don't use 3M 5200. Our 1984 - 32 had original

Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41

Just to add to others' experience with frameless fixed port lights, my Landfall 38 is a 1983 vintage and I have owned it since 1986. Since 1986 I made two port light replacements using 3/8-inch thick cast acrylic and plexus before making my last and final fix without Plexus (about 13 years ago)

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Hi Charlie, My 34+ were replaced a few years back (Same design as yours) and they were glued in place. It was done by the "Guru" on the lake and they are tight / waterproof after about 5 years.. I was told that it was a very difficult thing to do as there is a curve on the portlights. I was

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I have not used VHB tape on portlights but I have used it on many other applications, one was securing my GoPro mount to a slalom ski.. High vibrations, water, you name it. The stuff is nothing short of phenomenal. As for bonded port lights helping with structural integrity, auto manufacturers

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The Get-A-Grip suction cups (also used to handle and install glass such as windshields) are reported to work well. Rig a tensioner inside the boat. Sometimes from one side to the other. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Feb 7, 2015 7:18 PM, "Rex & Jennifer Delay via CnC-List

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Do NOT use 5200. Here is one way to do it: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/portlight_replace/page01.htm Here is another way to do it: http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=133986&hl= Here's another way: Clean all traces of silicone from the window and frame. This will t

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Just a note, a vibrating saw with a flexible caulk cutting blade might make port removal easier. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 8, 2015, at 9:03 AM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List > wrote: > > Rex: > > Below is a description of the window installation project on our C&C 32 done > some

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I did add screws and used the sikaflex UV with spacers. Screw holes in the window are one drill bit size larger than the screws.  My prior boat (O'Day) had the screws from the factory.  Did it 5 years ago. No leaks or cracks. Tom O'Keeffe Bridie Mae 29-2 Douglaston, NY Sent from Yahoo Mail on

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ll is well. You can still remove it if needed without an >act of Congress > >Cheers > >John & Maryann Read >Legacy III >1982 C&C 34 >Noank, CT > John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@

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Still a fan of double-sided butyl tape. . -Original Message- From: "John and Maryann Read via CnC-List" Sent: ‎2015-‎02-‎08 12:02 PM To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 Rex This is a topic of MUCH discussion over the

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That won’t work on the frameless windows; only the aluminum-framed ones on the earlier boats. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Feb 8, 2015, at 1:19 PM, John Irvin via CnC-List wrote: > Still a fan of double-sided butyl tape.

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Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App-Original Message-From: cnc-list@cnc-list.comTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com,john.ir...@rogers.comCc: Sent: 2015-02-08 14:33:35 GMTSubject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41That won’t work on the frameless windows; only the aluminum-framed ones on the

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@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > > > -Original Message- > > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com,john.ir...@rogers.com > Cc: > Sent: 2015-02-08 14:33:35 GMT > Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Inst

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That might work; but butyl’s NOT an adhesive, so you would definitely need the screws/bolts. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Feb 8, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Gary Zuehlke via CnC-List wrote: > Would the butyl tape work on frameless

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We have the frameless windows and did the replacement last Spring. We used 3M fuselage tape - and although the prep was a lot of work, we are very pleased with the end result. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C&C 37+ | City Isla

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I've been following this topic any time I see it come up - I have windows in need of replacement. I like the sailing anarchy suggestion - with coincides (fairly closely )with Don Casey's recommendation http://www.sailmagazine.com/boatworks/replacing-fixed-p

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I have the aluminum frame windows on both my boats, which I consider to be less stylish but much more practical, so I'm basically just an interested onlooker to this discussion. But it seems to me a point made several years ago in a similar thread has been lost here. The frameless windows were

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To: Edd Schillay ; cnc-list Sent: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 9:22 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 I have the aluminum frame windows on both my boats, which I consider to be less stylish but much more practical, so I'm basically just an interested onlooker to this discussio

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List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 11:41 AM To: rickbr...@earthlink.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com; e...@schillay.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 My windows were replaced by a local yard about 10-12 y

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ost > of the repair cost is likely to be in the labor involved (not the cost of the > windows), any solution will likely cost about the same. > > Charlie Nelson > Water Phantom > 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb > > > > cenel...@aol.com > > > -----Original

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years. Since most >> of the repair cost is likely to be in the labor involved (not the cost of >> the windows), any solution will likely cost about the same. >> >> Charlie Nelson >> Water Phantom >> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb >> >> >> >> cenel...@aol.co

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Rick Is it really true that the designers at C&C expected glued on acryllic ports to stiffen the whole boat Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I h

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Dwight — if I might jump in here, my understanding is that the glued-in acrylic ports became a unified part of the cabintop structure, and stiffened the structure; NOT that they made the boat stiffer in terms of sailing characteristics. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall

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I used BoatLife 10 years ago on my frameless ports and nary a leak since then... David F. Risch 181 40 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:39:00 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Just to add to others

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Interesting question Dwight. The front windshield on my car is supposed to be an integral part of the car's safety accessories and yet it is glued in place by a Sika product. Sika is good enough for automobile insurance companies and the marine insurance companies probably don't care what we

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Bob: For the sailing I do, if I have to choose from doing the window replacement job once with Sika or some other similar adhesive, and no more window leaks, versus any perceived extra structural integrity of my boat, I choose the 'no leak option' Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S.

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‎Engineers know stuff!  sam :-)

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February 12, 2015 12:15 PM *To: *Rick Brass; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Reply To: *dwight veinot *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 Rick Is it really true that the designers at C&C expected glued on acryllic ports to stiffen the whole boat Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, */

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eers know stuff! sam :-) From: dwight veinot via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 12:15 PM To: Rick Brass; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: dwight veinot Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 Rick Is it really true that the designers at C&C expe

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. It won't stick to the window material. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rex & Jennifer Delay via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 7:19 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 We have a relativel

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n" Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 4:15:48 PM Subject: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 Hi Charlie, My 34+ were replaced a few years back (Same design as yours) and they were glued in place. It was done by the "Guru" on the lake and they are tight / waterproof after

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ontact him-FrancoisSent from IBM Notes TravelerChuck S --- Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 --- From:"Chuck S" To:"Jean-Francois J Rivard" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Date:Thu, Feb 12, 2015 11:40 PMSubject:Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41Hi Fr

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Edd, I googled "3m fuselage tape" and couldn't cleary identify what product you used. Could you please enlighten me. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Feb 8, 2015 8:38 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" wrote: > We have the frameless windows and did the replacement last Sprin

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Josh, I have the exact item number at my office. Will circle back to you tomorrow All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C&C 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9

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Try this link to 3M VHB tapes. http://m.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/mAdhesives/Tapes/Products/?rt=ms&resultsPerPage=10&Ntt=VHB&x=0&y=0 Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 15, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > > Edd, > > I googled "3m fuselage tape" and

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Josh, I used the 3M 5952 VHB Tape: http://www.staples.com/3M-5952-VHB-Tape-Dark-Gray-3-4-inch-x-5-yds/product_946573 All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay

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quot; Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 9:37:04 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 Josh, I used the 3M 5952 VHB Tape: http://www.staples.com/3M-5952-VHB-Tape-Dark-Gray-3-4-inch-x-5-yds/product_946573 All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+

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t; > From: "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" > To: "Josh Muckley" , "" > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 9:37:04 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 > > Josh, > > I used the 3M 5952 VHB Tape: > http://www.staples.com

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gt; Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > -- > *From: *"Edd Schillay via CnC-List" > *To: *"Josh Muckley" , "" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent: *Monday, February 16, 2015 9:37:04 AM > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Win

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..@highspeedcrow.ca>> > To: Josh Muckley mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>>, > "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>" > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 > Message-ID: <5fed87b6-6db

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> Carrabelle, FL > > > > > On Feb 16, 2015, at 9:20 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:59:28 -0600 > From: Brent Driedger > To: Josh Muckley , "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 19

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uot; To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:24:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 Hi, Nice discussion. I am looking to replace my window lenses soon too(likely go w/ 1/4” grey Lexan). I like the idea of using 3M’s VHB tape along with an adhesive/s

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From: PME via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:24 Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 Hi, Nice discussion. I am looking to replace my window lenses soon too(likely go w/ 1/4” grey Lexan). I like the idea of using 3M’s VHB

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Thomas C&C27 MKIII - Original Message - From: Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:50 Subject: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 I have not used VHB tape on portlights but I have used it on many o

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My auto windshield was replaced last year and the adhesive used was a Sika product similar to Sika 295UV, only with a faster curing time than the version we would by at a yacht shop. I used Sika 295 UV as the adhesive on our new cabin side ports 6 years ago.no complaints with this product.

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t: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:50 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 I have not used VHB tape on portlights but I have used it on many other applications, one was securing my GoPro mount to a slalom ski.. High vibrations, water, you name it. The stu

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I think the adhesive bond is still the weak link and likely the first part of the system to fail unless the glass has a defect of some sort in it Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via

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Francois J Rivard/Atlanta/IBM@IBMUS, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Date: 02/16/2015 07:21 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41 I think the adhesive bond is still the weak link and likely the first part of the system to fail unless the glass has a defec