[cobirds] Walden Ponds, Boulder County, Nov. 22

2012-11-23 Thread Ted Floyd
Hello, Birders. I walked around Walden/Sawhill Ponds a bit yesterday afternoon, Thanksgiving Day, Thursday, Nov. 22nd. Kinda slow out there, but I found 2 Swamp Sparrows in the back end of Sawhilll. Assuming they're different from the 5 that Hannah and Andrew and I found earlier in the week

[cobirds] Colorado Rare Bird Alert, Friday, November 23, 2012

2012-11-23 Thread Joyce Takamine
Compiler: Joyce Takamine Date: November 23, 2012 email: rba AT cfobirds.org phone: 303-659-8750 This is the Colorado Rare Bird Alert for Friday, November 23, 2012, sponsored by Denver Field Ornithologists and the Rocky Mountain Bird

[cobirds] bushtits,Centennial, Arapahoe

2012-11-23 Thread Karl Stecher Jr.
At 1100 on Thanksgiving Day, 11/22, ten bushtits visited my suet feeder for a few minutes. Karl Stecher Centennial, near Colorado Blvd and Orchard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Colorado Birds group. To post to this group, send email to

[cobirds] Bird making clicking noises at Caslewood Canyon

2012-11-23 Thread lindab
We had a quick glance at a bird making clicking noises - about Robin sized - light to medium colored. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Colorado Birds group. To post to this group, send email to cobirds@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

RE: [cobirds] Re: Brambling update

2012-11-23 Thread Gloria Nikolai
That was me :-) I saw the bird for at 4:25-4:30 pm and then for great long views at 4:45 pm after everyone left. I couldn't believe how long it stayed out at that time. Thanks for passing on the information here, Phil, it was well worth the wait! Gloria Nikolai Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:43:05

[cobirds] Barr Lake CBC

2012-11-23 Thread Charles Hundertmark
The Barr Lake Christmas Bird Count will be Friday, January 4, 2013. Meet at the Rocky Mountain Bird Observatory Environmental Learning Center (formerly the Old Stone House), at 7 a.m. Coffee and donuts available as we get organized. Online registration is expected to be ready at the National

[cobirds] BCLP Brambling

2012-11-23 Thread Becky Campbell
Cobirders, The Brambling arrived at 7:20 this morning. There is still some seed on the path. He made several brief appearances before I had to leave at 8:00 a.m. Becky Campbell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Colorado Birds group. To post to this

[cobirds] November 2012 D.F.O. Fieldtrips -- Join Us!

2012-11-23 Thread CorvidColo
Denver Field Ornithologists November 2012 Field Trips Saturday, November 24 Rigli Ranch Leader: Joe Rigli, 970-867-5210 Meet leader at ranch by 0830. From Hudson, go east on CO 52 until it turns north. Don’t turn north, but continue east on Morgan County road F to CR 14, then turn

[cobirds] No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Joe Roller
Dismayed at the officiousness of the Bear Creek Lake Park rangers, I worked up my indignation and managed to find a work-around. After many phone-calls and emails, I established contact with the three nuns (Sister Anne Marie, Sister Elizabeth and Sister Bernadette) who visited the Park the other

[cobirds] 71st Boulder CBC, Sunday, 16 December 2012

2012-11-23 Thread William Schmoker
Folks- I would like to extend the invitation to join us on the 71st Boulder CBC, to be held on Sunday, 16 December this year. Please email me if you are interested in participating and I'll connect you to a territory leader (or assign you a territory if you are looking to lead). I hope

Re: [cobirds] No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Paul Hurtado
Alternatively, it would be a big win for the birding community if we could get the park to reverse the new 'no seed' policy. Do we even know why they put the sign up?? If it's a matter of observers breaking park rules, we can help make sure those rules get enforced (yes, even for nuns). If it's

Re: [cobirds] No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread elena
As a veteran of non-violent civil disobedience with a short record of arrests for peace and justice efforts to prove it, I encourage folks to be respectful and also follow their nose for common sense (and unusual birds). Free the birdseed! Long live the brambling, and anyone else who

Re: [cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Ira Sanders
I'm unclear here. Is Jim equating putting out seed for the birds at Bear Creek with killing a small dog of a property owner? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm not aware that putting out seed for birds is a violation of the ABA code of ethics. Harassing birds is clearly against the code of

RE: [cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Wayne Wathen
I assume no one has been given a rationale for the no bird seed regulation. The only rationale that I can think of is that there has been a huge problem in the U.S. and otherparts of the world with noxious weeds as well as critters reaching the U.S. both accidently and introduced on purpose.

Re: [cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Eric DeFonso
The ABA code of ethics is pretty clear (see Sec 2(b)) about violating rules and regulations, which in this case seem to prohibit the feeding of animals in the park. Maybe the park rule in question is dumb (and I'm inclined to agree), but it's a rule all the same, and until it is changed I am a bit

[cobirds] No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they! COMMENT.

2012-11-23 Thread Alison Kondler
I can see the parks side on this. Feeding wildlife can cause an imbalance in the ecosystem. The problem with bird seed is that not only birds eat it. Rodents especially love it. A few years ago I saw a gigantic rat in BCLP! OK, so we're attracting rodents. Now think of what animals eat rodents?

[cobirds] Re: Bird making clicking noises at Caslewood Canyon

2012-11-23 Thread lindab
This video might answer my question but I didn't see blue or a crest so ? The Blue Jay's behavior is interesting but watch for the squirrel - it cracked me up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfz10ubBEZU On Friday, November 23, 2012 7:02:15 AM UTC-7, lindab wrote: We had a quick

[cobirds] Huerfano County update: Harris's Sparrows, White-throated Sparrow, Lewis's Woodpeckers, Pacific Loon

2012-11-23 Thread Polly Neldner
It was brisk 18 degrees here in La Veta this morning. While having our morning coffee and nursing our Thanksgiving food hangovers while watching our feeders we saw: 3 Harris's Sparrows 1 White-throated Sparrow 2 Lewis's Woodpeckers (we have been seeing them quite frequently close to the yard, so

[cobirds] BCLP Brambling seen this morning 11/23 Jefferson Co.

2012-11-23 Thread Kathy
Several observed the brambling making appearances every 20 minutes between 8:45 and 10:30 am. A brief visit by a lone common redpoll was observed around 9:45 am. Kathy Miller Colo. Sprngs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Colorado Birds group. To

Re: [cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Jim Dandy
Not specifically. But I guess what you're saying is, because it's ok to feed birds according to the ABA, it's ok to ignore the park rules. Or by extension property owner rules. It may be a silly rule, but it's one that is levied by the park, for reasons unknown to you. So you can either

Re: [cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Holly Reinhard
Hello birders, I am no longer in Colorado, but haven't unsubscribed from the list yet. I have been following this thread with interest, and I have to say I am in absolute 100% agreement with those who say that breaking a rule that you feel is stupid, just to have better chances to see a bird, is

Re: [cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Linda Paulsen
I agree. Linda Paulsen Lamar On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Jim Dandy jimdandy...@gmail.com wrote: Not specifically. But I guess what you're saying is, because it's ok to feed birds according to the ABA, it's ok to ignore the park rules. Or by extension property owner rules. It may be a

[cobirds] Bird Seed Controversy

2012-11-23 Thread Keith Brink
Reminds me years ago about the hunters vs nonhunters discussion on the Missouri Listserve. Sorry, but can't resist this. You don't Pish into the wind, You don't pull the tail feathers of the old old turkey and You don't mess around with Jim. Go Jim Dandy, Go Jim Dandy I know I mixed my two

RE: [cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Larry Griffin
I needed to get my two- cents worth in on this thread. One would think the Bear Creek Lake Park management would recognize and appreciate the obvious economic windfall we birders have brought to the Park in order to see the brambling. Has anyone approached management to learn their reasons for

Re: [cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Linda Paulsen
Rules are rules. You can look up the rules concerning baiting in the parks in Colorado. Linda Paulsen Lamar CO On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Larry Griffin orchbir...@frii.com wrote: I needed to get my two- cents worth in on this thread. One would think the Bear Creek Lake Park management

Re: [cobirds] No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they! COMMENT.

2012-11-23 Thread stevenelarson
I've never seen a Mountain Lion. Would it be ethical to stake out the neighbor's small dog to try and attract one? Steve Larson Northglenn, CO - Original Message - From: Alison Kondler birdingby...@msn.com To: cobirds@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 12:30:07 PM

[cobirds] Plan to work things out with the Rangers and Manager at BCLP

2012-11-23 Thread Joe Roller
Tom and other birders, Are you sitting down? I am serious for a change. No joke, this is serious. I chatted with Erik, a Park Ranger at Lakewood today. Their policy about not feeding wildlife has more to do with the many ill effects of people casually feeding ducks and geese at the lake. There

Re: [cobirds] Plan to work things out with the Rangers and Manager at BCLP

2012-11-23 Thread Greg Pasquariello
Good job. The whole sneak some seed in thing bothered me too. I haven't tried to see the Brambling yet; it's not a life bird for me, but it is a state bird and I will go tomorrow. You'd better get there before me, because when I chase a bird, it's a sure way to get it to leave town. Regards

[cobirds] Brambling Friday

2012-11-23 Thread Connie Kogler
I agree that the rules should be followed. One gal wanted to put seed out and did, some dissented. Not form in my opinion. Though it was tempting. Connie Kogler Loveland,CO AslansOwn.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Colorado Birds group.

Re: [cobirds] Plan to work things out with the Rangers and Manager at BCLP

2012-11-23 Thread cvc140
Greg, then please don't go tomorrow. I'm out of town and won't be home until late Saturday so can't try for the bird until Sunday. Maybe you can wait until then. ;-) Carol Cook now in Great Falls, MT and can't get home to Lakewood, CO soon enough - Original Message -

Re: [cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Eric DeFonso
By the way, it is equally ludicrous (and lazy, frankly) to smear all listers as continually seeking to violate good birding ethics. There are plenty of us who list and who also do right by the code. -- Eric DeFonso Boulder, CO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [cobirds] Plan to work things out with the Rangers and Manager at BCLP

2012-11-23 Thread Paul Hurtado
Joe and others, Glad to hear they're simpatico with the birders. But to make that conversation even easier, the fine print is also on our side :-) The posted sign cites Ordinance 6.05.050 Feeding of Wildlife. So, I looked up the Lakewood Regional Parks code and here it is in full. Note that

[cobirds] American Dipper at Lowell Blvd. and Clear Creek

2012-11-23 Thread bomaa...@yahoo.com
Hi CoBirders I saw an American Dipper today in Clear Creek, east of the Lowell Blvd. bridge (Adams Co). A single bird was there at 9:25 am and again at 4:25 pm. The best view is from the bridge. Bob Canter, Denver CO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[cobirds] Re: No bird seed allowed at BCLP? No fair! How dare they!

2012-11-23 Thread Dave Cameron
To address the rules are rules thought, I'd ask, was this a rule at BCLP prior to today, or did the park react to the influx of birders seeking the Brambling to create and post a single sign? If the latter, why? Is there a real problem resulting from the seed that seems to be getting eaten

Re: [cobirds] Plan to work things out with the Rangers and Manager at BCLP

2012-11-23 Thread Ira Sanders
Nice job Paul Ira Sanders *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* Paul Hurtado paul.j.hurt...@gmail.com wrote: Joe and others, Glad to hear they're simpatico with the birders. But to make that conversation even easier, the fine print is also on our side :-) The posted sign cites

[cobirds] Boulder Tundra Swans and Raptors

2012-11-23 Thread Nancy Rynes
Probably not as interesting as the Brambling, but I did get a chance to see and photograph some rather nice, bigger birds here in Boulder County. Thanks to Bill Kaempfer for the post about the Tundra Swans at Sombrero Marsh (Boulder) - I got up at the crack of dawn this morning and spent over

[cobirds] Official CFO Response

2012-11-23 Thread William H Kaempfer
Earlier today there was a request (challenge?) for an official CFO response. Here it is: Sign your posts with your name and location. Jim Dandy in the from line is not sufficient. This is policy. I note that every post in the string was signed except for two, from Mr. Dandy. Bill Kaempfer

Re: [cobirds] Official CFO Response

2012-11-23 Thread Greg Pasquariello
CFO, the guiding organization of Colorado birding, drops the ball and fails to take any meaningful position on a real issue facing birders and property owners, due to a mailing list policy? That's weak. Regards –Greg Pasquariello On Nov 23, 2012 7:31 PM, William H Kaempfer

[cobirds] Resolving the feeding the birds with the Brambling problem

2012-11-23 Thread Leon Bright
COBirders, Along with about 18 other happy birders I was able to get a very good view of the Brambling this morning around 10:00. Before that, I noticed the no feeding sign listed the ordinance number as the reason for the restriction. On person, who had been told (I think incorrectly) by

Re: [cobirds] Official CFO Response

2012-11-23 Thread Tom P
Dear Greg, I believe the answer to your question is in the prelude: the guiding organization of Colorado birding the CFO's job is to guide us about birding, not dictate the proper course of action on ethical dilemmas. I believe their response was appropriate. Obviously Jim Dandy was a

[cobirds] I'll let you know how we can cooperate with the Park after I meet with them Saturday

2012-11-23 Thread Joe Roller
For now, I appreciate all the opinions. One of my goals is not only to allow a little discreet bird feeding, but see if the Rangers can be coaxed into putting up a detour for the mountain bikers. I'll chill for now and work towards what is best for the bird, the birders and the Park. It's a real

Re: [cobirds] Resolving the feeding the birds with the Brambling problem

2012-11-23 Thread Nicolle Martin
CoBirders, I don't think the ordinance is a possibl[e] solution; it is the solution. I think the plain language of the ordinance settles the matter. That's not to say that the Park doesn't have broad authority to protect human visitors to the park by establishing rules on an ad hoc basis; it may