Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-05 Thread Kevin Dixon
...but since most uses of documents over time tend to be to view... That really, really sticks out for 2 reasons: 1) for the person creating the documents, that's not so true and 2) it really hints at the MS/media cartel attitude that users are, or ideally should be, mere passive

Re: [Moderator] Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-05 Thread Uli Kusterer
On 04.04.2008, at 20:31, Scott Anguish wrote: OK, time to shut this one down folks. We've been down this road far too many times in the past. Feel free to move this to the Mac-GUI-Dev group, where it's fine and on topic: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mac-gui-dev/ Cheers, -- Uli

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-04 Thread Ali Ozer
When I save a JPEG file in an image editing app, and later open it, I expect it to open in Preview (or whatever my default image viewer is), not the image editing app. This is especially true if someone else opens the image. Of course the expected behavior may depend on whether I am

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-04 Thread John Siracusa
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Jean-Daniel Dupas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, even if it was possible to attach an UTI to a file, you would be force to continue to use (nasty old fashioned) extensions for compatibility with other OS. That's an argument for creating files with appropriate

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-04 Thread Scott Ribe
When I save a JPEG file in an image editing app, and later open it, I expect it to open in Preview (or whatever my default image viewer is), not the image editing app. When I *create* an image in an image editing app and later open it, I expect it to open in the app with which I created it,

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-04 Thread Matt Neuburg
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:08:56 -0600, Scott Ribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But having an app explicitly and automatically mark documents it saves as opening in itself can get frustrating for the user. How so? It seems the most reasonable default. I really don't see end users saving a file from one

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Ribe
But having an app explicitly and automatically mark documents it saves as opening in itself can get frustrating for the user. How so? It seems the most reasonable default. I really don't see end users saving a file from one app, and expecting it to automatically open with a different app. In

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-02 Thread Keith Duncan
Oh. Looks like I'm off the hook. The UTI, I expect, is the bundle identifier, no? I don't think anyone actually answered this question for you. Basically no, your bundle identifier is a URI. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com)

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-02 Thread Jean-Daniel Dupas
Le 2 avr. 08 à 12:52, Keith Duncan a écrit : Oh. Looks like I'm off the hook. The UTI, I expect, is the bundle identifier, no? I don't think anyone actually answered this question for you. Basically no, your bundle identifier is a URI. And to complete the answer, UTI are here to

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-02 Thread Uli Kusterer
On 01.04.2008, at 21:59, Marc Respass wrote: I haven't registered for a creator code since System 7.5. Apple has information and registration page (http://developer.apple.com/datatype/index.html ) about it but no indication if it's actually still required. Can anyone tell me if it is still

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-02 Thread Ali Ozer
Totally agreed that seeing extensions on file names is unfortunate. But as long as applications are properly setting/using the hidden extension bit (and many do), most of the time users should not see extensions on any of their files, except the ones where they want to (for instance,

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-02 Thread Ken Thomases
On Apr 2, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Jean-Daniel Dupas wrote: Le 2 avr. 08 à 12:52, Keith Duncan a écrit : Oh. Looks like I'm off the hook. The UTI, I expect, is the bundle identifier, no? I don't think anyone actually answered this question for you. Basically no, your bundle identifier is a URI.

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-02 Thread Jean-Daniel Dupas
Le 2 avr. 08 à 20:56, Ken Thomases a écrit : On Apr 2, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Jean-Daniel Dupas wrote: Le 2 avr. 08 à 12:52, Keith Duncan a écrit : Oh. Looks like I'm off the hook. The UTI, I expect, is the bundle identifier, no? I don't think anyone actually answered this question for you.

Need for a creator code?

2008-04-01 Thread Marc Respass
Hi All, I haven't registered for a creator code since System 7.5. Apple has information and registration page (http://developer.apple.com/datatype/index.html ) about it but no indication if it's actually still required. Can anyone tell me if it is still required or maybe point me at the

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-01 Thread Ricky Sharp
On Apr 1, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Marc Respass wrote: Hi All, I haven't registered for a creator code since System 7.5. Apple has information and registration page (http://developer.apple.com/datatype/index.html ) about it but no indication if it's actually still required. Can anyone tell me

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-01 Thread Andrew Farmer
On 01 Apr 08, at 12:59, Marc Respass wrote: I haven't registered for a creator code since System 7.5. Apple has information and registration page (http://developer.apple.com/datatype/index.html ) about it but no indication if it's actually still required. Can anyone tell me if it is still

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-01 Thread Rainer Brockerhoff
At 15:21 -0700 01/04/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:26:58 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 01 Apr 08, at 12:59, Marc Respass wrote: I haven't registered for a creator

Re: Need for a creator code?

2008-04-01 Thread Dave Sopchak
Ah, a subject near and dear to my heart. I agree with Rainer, UTIs can be deduced from file types, extensions and file creators, but I would sure like it if one could set a UTI for a document and have this take care of things, not the other way around. Also, it certainly seems that UTIs do