Re: [Simper] Re: Bean storage in database

2002-02-04 Thread Slawek Zachcial
Hi, Can someone explain how is Simper different from Castor (http://castor.exolab.org)? cheers, Slawek --- Bryan Field-Elliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi James, Thanks for the great feedback! Yes, I identified early on that I'd like to move the initialization to an XML file using

RE: [Simper] Re: Bean storage in database

2002-02-04 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Hi James! -Mensaje original- De: James Strachan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] One other thing to keep in the back of your mind when you're refactoring things. Once its in CVS somewhere - hopefully the sandbox or failing that sourceforge - I'd be quite interested in adding

RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
+1 Paulo -Original Message- From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:25 AM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release Ted Husted wrote: As for myself, I'm in the camp that says the sky

RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Answer inline: -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:02 AM On 2/3/02 7:56 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Answer inline: -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Inline... -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:28 AM We have the ability to affect change on this thing I believe is a problem. (One answer is It's not a problem I suppose...) The only answers I hear are Things

Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release

2002-02-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 2/4/02 6:43 AM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inline... -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:28 AM We have the ability to affect change on this thing I believe is a problem. (One answer is It's not a

RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Aaron, you just touched on what is the usefulness of the commons. The idea is that the Tomcat team and other teams with _common_ use code can drop such _common_ use components here, and hence the _commons_ name. Of course that dropping such components here also means making them usable without

RE: Problems with commons-logging

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Donnie, Singletons are often great on the application level but tend to be tricky on the component level. On an application you have a clear understanding of what are the advantages and drawbacks of your singletons - you implement a singleton on your application because you do NOT want that

RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Well it isn't actually, but I've been told to shut up, so I'll leave it here. Unlike Ted, I think you should try to get your point trough. If you are sure that everybody else understood your POV and everybody is against, THEN it is the time to quit. If you think you were still not

RE: Problems with commons-logging

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Answer inline: -Original Message- From: Tim Vernum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:51 AM To: 'Jakarta Commons Developers List' Subject: RE: Problems with commons-logging ... Otherwise we'll still have to code against Log4j APIs ( to set the

Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release

2002-02-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 2/4/02 7:08 AM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it isn't actually, but I've been told to shut up, so I'll leave it here. Unlike Ted, I think you should try to get your point trough. If you are sure that everybody else understood your POV and everybody is against, THEN it

Re: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release

2002-02-04 Thread Ted Husted
My only complaint is that we need to respect everyone's bandwidth. Every twiddly message here goes out to a great many people, most of whom have work to do. If after a brief discussion someone wants to bring an actual proposal to the table, I hope they will do so. But these endless threads have

RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons USER list?

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
This is OT. It belongs to the process list. =;o) Paulo -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PROPOSAL] Commons USER list? [ANNOUCEMENT: new mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] In

RE: [Logging] [VOTE] Commons Logging 1.0 Release

2002-02-04 Thread Paulo Gaspar
-Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:08 PM On 2/4/02 7:08 AM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... If you are sure that everybody else understood your POV and everybody is against, THEN it is the time to

[httpclient] pending patches (was RE: [HttpClient]: JUnit 3.7 Upgrade patches ready to go)

2002-02-04 Thread Waldhoff, Rodney
For what it's worth: I'm +1 on Sean's JUnit 3.7 patches, thanks to both Sean and dIon for taking care of this. I'm suprised we haven't addressed that sooner. I'm -0ish on the default header patch. I haven't had a chance to look at it in detail (which is why I haven't commented on it before)

Re: Problems with commons-logging

2002-02-04 Thread Berin Loritsch
Donnie Hale wrote: Paulo, I've seen you mention a couple of times that you consider singletons dangerous. Would you care to elaborate? Is it because you're concerned that people can't write thread-safe code correctly? Or because correct thread-safe code affects concurrency? Or something

cvs commit: jakarta-commons-sandbox/util/src/java/org/apache/commons/util StringUtils.java

2002-02-04 Thread bayard
bayard 02/02/04 09:13:07 Modified:util/src/java/org/apache/commons/util StringUtils.java Log: wordWrap method bug fixed. A new line on its own was failing to pass through and being blocked due to newlines being whitespace. Bug submitted by John R York Revision Changes

cvs commit: jakarta-commons-sandbox/services/src/java/org/apache/commons/services LogService.java ServiceManager.java

2002-02-04 Thread oalexeev
oalexeev02/02/04 09:14:23 Modified:services/src/java/org/apache/commons/services LogService.java ServiceManager.java Log: Patch code to support latest commons-logging package version. Revision ChangesPath 1.4 +5 -5

RE: [Simper] Re: Bean storage in database

2002-02-04 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
Hi, Shall I commit that for you into the simplestore package? I guess I should ;) ~Gerhard Whose cruel idea was it for the word lisp to have an s in it? -Original Message- From: Juozas Baliuka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:25 PM To: Jakarta Commons

cvs commit: jakarta-commons-sandbox/altrmi/src/java/org/apache/commons/altrmi/client/impl/stream StreamInvocationHandler.java

2002-02-04 Thread hammant
hammant 02/02/04 13:07:07 Modified:altrmi/src/java/org/apache/commons/altrmi/client/impl AbstractHostContext.java altrmi/src/java/org/apache/commons/altrmi/client/impl/stream StreamInvocationHandler.java Log: small

RE: Problems with commons-logging

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Downey
BTW, another issue I just saw: catch(Throwable) {} Is it really the intent to catch OutOfMemoryError, and do nothing? Or, you really want to keep the thread from cleaning up when thread.stop() is called (ThreadDeath)? Throwable is not shorthand for list of exceptions I mean to catch. Catching

RE: Problems with commons-logging

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Downey
I've been thinking about this. The situation you're outlining goes something like this at the code level: if (someHorribleCondition) { log.error(Bad Things Happened Here); //Now what? } If the //Now what? doesn't include a thrown exception, but it's severe enough to cause the application

RE: Problems with commons-logging

2002-02-04 Thread costinm
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Steve Downey wrote: The case: you have 2 apps you want to keep isolated. Allowing one to log into the other's log is unacceptable. Classloader tricks are not allways possible and are extremely error prone ( and I would say - ineffective, can be tricked ). And the

[PATCH] RE: Problems with commons-logging

2002-02-04 Thread Steve Downey
Patches to fix the caught Throwables. And a test case. And change build.xml to use junit 3.7. Fairly important, since this is supposed to be compatible with jdk 1.4, and assert is now a keyword. -Original Message- From: Steve Downey Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:30 PM To: