Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread Rich Schinnell
Tony, are you trying to install windowsXP from an original xp disk pre service pack's? I have installed windows xp on at least a dozen SATA only motherboards without any drivers. Also, I can't understand why your motherboard did not come with a cdrom. I don't think I have ever bought a new moth

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread Tony B
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:06 AM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=2372&OSFullName=Windows*+XP+Professional&lang=eng&strOSs=44&submit=Go%21#DRV > That doesn't contain the files you need? Thanks for looking, but if so, they'r

Re: [CGUYS] DSLR question (was over shooting

2008-06-07 Thread Mike Sloane
It should be understood that, in the electronics/electrical industry, the law is very clear: even if the only thing that happened to a device is that the package was opened or the tape ripped, it cannot be sold as "new". And that includes ALL of the contents of the device. So it goes back to a

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread Tony B
Yes, I tried that. Well, you _have_ to do this registry change to get Vista to use the SATA drivers at all. Oddly, on first boot it seemed to get all the way up, then it seemed to very nicely shut down. After that, nothing but 7B blue screens complaining about 'crcdisk.sys'. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 a

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread Tony B
Well, you may have *thought* you did, but like me, you probably had EIDE mode enabled for the SATA ports. This works, but then none of the SATA ports are using AHCI, so they're degraded - e.g. slower and not hot swappable. By default WinXP (even SP3) doesn't come with SATA (AHCI) drivers, so you co

Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction

2008-06-07 Thread Jeff Wright
> -Original Message- > Thought I received message at end of May that AVG free was ending as of > June > 1 and needed to upgrade to presumably paid version. Was away and > didn't do > anything, but still seems to be running as far as I can tell. Anyone > else > heard about this? This is a

[CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread Jeff Wright
To update on the piss-poor spam filtering that Comcast is using, it continues with a new twist. I'm getting *some* messages on threads, but not all at times. For instance, Tony's thread on SATA drivers, I only got 6 of the 9 messages, which explained my confusion as to who Tony was replying to.

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread Mike Sloane
Although I have not tried it, I believe there is a way to bring Gmail messages into your machine's Email application. I purposely don't do that because I like having my Gmail account available when I am having problems with Thunderbird (most recently with an inbox that mysteriously ballooned up

Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction

2008-06-07 Thread Sue Cubic
At 04:53 PM 06/05/2008 -0400, Ranbo wrote After reading this thread, wondering if AVG might be what is slowing down my browsing, mainly on FireFox, but probably also some on IE? I had a program update on 7.5 this week, and my computer is now booting far faster than it has been since the previ

Re: [CGUYS] AVG dissatisfaction

2008-06-07 Thread Jeff Wright
One problem I have noticed is that if you upgrade to v. 8 directly from v. 7.5, I've seen, twice now, desktops not loading as a result; you just sit there with a background and no icons. Manually uninstalling 7.5 and then installing 8 doesn't have this problem so far. I've had to do system restor

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread John DeCarlo
Gmail support IMAP - you can use whatever email client you want. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread Jeff Wright
Yeah, I forget that Gmail has that. Thanks John. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:57 AM, John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gmail support IMAP - you can use whatever email client you want. > > -- > John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own > > > **

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread Tony B
There's an 'expand all' button on the right. Gmail still offers free POP or IMAP access, but why hang onto the past like that? It's not too difficult for _this_ old dog to learn new tricks. :) On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Jeff Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see all the messages in my G

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread Jeff Wright
> -Original Message- > There's an 'expand all' button on the right. Yeah, I know, but all that does is expand the thread. > Gmail still offers free POP or IMAP access, but why hang onto the past > like that? It's not too difficult for _this_ old dog to learn new > tricks. :) I can do tha

[CGUYS] Q: social browser FLOCK

2008-06-07 Thread GK
Are any of you using flock? http://www.flock.com/ Any reviews would be welcome. Thanks. /gayley knight * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread db
Yes, Gmail supports POP and IMAP email clients... Thunderbird or whatever. db Mike Sloane wrote: Although I have not tried it, I believe there is a way to bring Gmail messages into your machine's Email application. I purposely don't do that because I like having my Gmail account available when

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread Tony B
Nope. This presents me with the same four F6 choices as the last one I downloaded. None match the chip the manual says I have. I tried one last night, then a different one just now. A few minutes later setup tells me it can't find any drives, press F3 to reboot. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:06 AM, m

[CGUYS] Refurb vs Used [was: DSLR question (was over shooting]

2008-06-07 Thread b_s-wilk
> I had no idea you could still pay pretty close to new price for a > used/refurbished camera. Yes, it does say "refurbished by NIKON > includes warranty" but I don't think that justifies the price. > > > When new, the D70 body sold for $1,099 (the "kit" with 18-70mm AF-S lens > was $1,299), so e

Re: [CGUYS] Here's some news...

2008-06-07 Thread b_s-wilk
Apple is said to be planning to make the latest upgrade, 10.6, of their Leopard OS an Intel ONLY version, cutting out the non-intel Mac community. This move, if true, is aimed at making the Leopard OS imminently useable on Windows machines and forcing Mac PPC owners to buy new computers if they

Re: [CGUYS] DSLR question: let's end this

2008-06-07 Thread b_s-wilk
Most people don't realize how the quality of glass is so important in photography. I worked for a newspaper, in the art department, and shooting/developing/printing film, shooting photostats. If I was lucky, they'd be printed in the glossy section instead of on newsprint. One day one of the re

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread Jeff Wright
Good luck with Intel tech support. It's taken me months to get a solution for warranty support from them. It's a slow motion ballet of email messages. I gotta say tho', this is really odd. I've installed XP with SATA drives on probably a dozen different chipsets and never run into this in a non-

Re: [CGUYS] DSLR question: let's end this

2008-06-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Is it important that the Nokia N-series phones' cameras have Zeiss >lenses? Does that make their photos any better? Of course, they're still >mobile phones, not dedicated cameras. Or did Zeiss get new managers who will sell Zeiss stickers to just about anybody? I don't know what's going on ins

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
>To update on the piss-poor spam filtering that Comcast is using, it >continues with a new twist. I'm getting *some* messages on threads, but not >all at times. For instance, Tony's thread on SATA drivers, I only got 6 of >the 9 messages, which explained my confusion as to who Tony was replying t

Re: [CGUYS] Here's some news...

2008-06-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Apple could conceivably eliminate their desktop line of computers >altogether the way that their portable devices are selling. No. Over half of Apple's profits come from those computers and that part of their business is far more stable over time than the other stuff they are selling. **

Re: [CGUYS] Here's some news...

2008-06-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Part of what keeps apple ahead of M$ is a willingness to orphan machines and software after a period of time. M$ saddles itself with so much legacy hardware and code that it can't embrace change as easily. These are both good and bad traits in a computer company. The period before orphaning hardw

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread Tony B
Yes, just today, although I really don't want RAID, just AHCI. Setup stops saying it can't find any hard drives (bios shows them okay). It really shouldn't be this difficult for a mainstream board like Intel. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Jeff Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good luck with

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread Robert
I got only six of the nine SATA messages, and I am using Cox. Jeff Wright wrote: To update on the piss-poor spam filtering that Comcast is using, it continues with a new twist. I'm getting *some* messages on threads, but not all at times. For instance, Tony's thread on SATA drivers, I only got

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread mike
Just to get it straight for me, I've got nine msgs NOW, with the last one, but the last one I have says he has nine? so...Jeff, MIke, John D, Jeff, Tony, Jeff, Db, Tom and Robert. That's nine. I'm using Gmail. Mike On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got onl

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread mike
Many SATA controllers can enable AHCI either separately or in conjunction with RAID support. Intel recommends choosing RAID mode on their motherboards(which also enables AHCI) rather than the plain AHCI/SATA mode for maxi

Re: [CGUYS] DSLR question: let's end this

2008-06-07 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jun 7, 2008, at 1:58 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Is it important that the Nokia N-series phones' cameras have Zeiss lenses? Does that make their photos any better? Maybe. But, compared to what? If compared to an identical phone equipped with a different lens make, perhaps it will be better.

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread Jeff Wright
Interesting side note " Many SATA controllers can enable AHCI either separately or in conjunction with RAID support. Intel recommends choosing RAID mode on their motherboards (which also enables AHCI) rather than the plain AHCI/SATA mode for maximum flexibility, due to the issues caused when t

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread Jeff Wright
I would say no, I like having the mail format. Going web-based, you have to go to the site and open up the forum, find the thread and post a reply. Not a burden, but with email, it's right here. KISS. OTOH, going with a web-based solution eliminates the broken mess that is email today and ensur

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread Jeff Wright
Bah! Didn't see your message until after I sent mine. Sorry for the duplicate info... > -Original Message- > From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:COMPUTERGUYS- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:21 PM > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Sub

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread Tony B
Yes, I'd read the wikipedia entry. All Intel seems to be saying is that, even though they give you three choices, you should only pick one of two. i.e., "Install RAID Drivers" doesn't mean you necessarily want a RAID, and it'll work fine if you don't set one up. Like everything else, it's clear as

Re: [CGUYS] Missing messages

2008-06-07 Thread mike
I went web based for the reasons you state you stay on your own system. My net connection is so slow, It's much faster for me to keep it on the web. Pretty sad in this day and age DSL can be so slow as almost unusable for email. Mike On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Jeff Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CGUYS] WinXP & SATA

2008-06-07 Thread mike
Nlite is a fantastic program...used it many times myself. And it's free. Mike On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I'd read the wikipedia entry. All Intel seems to be saying is > that, even though they give you three choices, you should only pick > one of tw

[CGUYS] ip blocklists

2008-06-07 Thread mike
When I was running XP Pro I used peer guardian for blocklists. It could block any set of lists I chose, http, whole countries, ads etc. I'm looking for something in this vein for Vista 64 which I switched to recently. Anyone have ideas? Mike

[CGUYS] PC World Top 100 2008

2008-06-07 Thread Tony B
> Are any of you using flock? > http://www.flock.com/ >If you're a fan of social networking sites, and believe the Web is as much >about connecting to other people as it is connecting to Web sites, then this >is the browser for you. Well, that leaves ME out. I can't even figure out exactly what

[CGUYS] car repair reputation

2008-06-07 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Is there a website that allows local car repair shops to be rated and reported on? angieslist.com has reports on home service (contractors?), anything similar for mechanics? -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly We all live

Re: [CGUYS] car repair reputation

2008-06-07 Thread Admiral Harris
I think Washington Checkbook has something like that. http://www.checkbook.org/sitemap/washington_dc/ - Original Message - From: "Wayne Dernoncourt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:55 PM Subject: [CGUYS] car repair reputation Is there a website that allows

Re: [CGUYS] car repair reputation

2008-06-07 Thread Art Clemons
Is there a website that allows local car repair shops to be rated and reported on? angieslist.com has reports on home service (contractors?), anything similar for mechanics? If you listen to Car Talk, you've likely heard a reference to the following: http://www.cartalk.com/content/mechx/ The

[CGUYS] WinXP SP3 removal tool from Symantec

2008-06-07 Thread Art Clemons
Some folks appear to have had a problem with SP3 and some chipsets or manufacturers. Symantec seems to have a standalone tool to fix problems. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9094578&intsrc=news_ts_head ***

Re: [CGUYS] car repair reputation

2008-06-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Triple A also has a list of recommended repair shops. AAA Stewart At 10:23 PM 6/7/2008, you wrote: Is there a website that allows local car repair shops to be rated and reported on? angieslist.com has reports on home service (contractors?), anything similar for mechanics? If you listen to