Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 11:17 PM -0500 9/7/08, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Eric you forgot one important as[ect in this also. Wall Streets expected gains. All publicly held companies are expected to perform by Wall Street and they set the numbers. If a company comes in low for the quarter they are having a

Re: [CGUYS] Upgrading Mac Hard Drives

2008-09-08 Thread Steve Rigby
On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:18 PM, David wrote: I'm looking for instructions as to how to upgrade (to a larger capacity) the hard drives on a G-5 iMac (now running OS 10.3.9) and a two-year old MacBook (running 10.5 and Windows XP via Boot Camp). Can anyone point me to step-by-step instructions

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Desktop In Decline

2008-09-08 Thread b_s-wilk
We are not ALL computer geeks. We've mostly come along with the various OS's since Win95. Now we're facing a huge learning curve, unlike any other that MS has hit us with before. I don't think there is a HUGE learning curve, but there are changes. Some make sense, some don't. I'm used

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
If a company comes in low for the quarter they are having a problem and it leads to stock sell off, which means less capital to work with. How do you figure that? Many companies like to buy things with stock, not cash. Hence a lower stock price actually does result in less capital to work

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Desktop In Decline

2008-09-08 Thread Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A.
The Search function is on the menu bar (just like before) and you can also type ANYTHING in the old command line bar and it will execute a search. Unless you have added NOTHING to the Dell Machine, do NOT convert to Vista. It reformats the drive and installs Vista. You will lose any apps and data

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It also effects how they can borrow and what they pay. I was just reading an article the other day about the big three auto companies in Detroit. Because their stocks are rated just above junk status they are having a hard time borrowing money to upgrade. They are looking to Uncle Sam for

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
That is not greed it is called expected return on investment. Not all profits are bad. Not all profits are good. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
We pay you out of our profits if you own our stock, you own the company. Some companies, like MS, hold on to their profits. What's up with that? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It is called return on investment and there is an expectation of a percentage of earnings. Some companies keep a cash reserve for buy outs and reinvesting in the company. They also buy back stock to increase it's value. Public Service Commissions (they are called different things in

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
The only Eudora being released is a NEW one put out by the folks at Thunderbird, that is compatible with Vista. There is another. Google on Odysseus email. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 11:50 AM -0500 9/8/08, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: It also effects how they can borrow and what they pay. I was just reading an article the other day about the big three auto companies in Detroit. Because their stocks are rated just above junk status they are having a hard time

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It did not state clearly. Just that they are having a hard time borrowing money due to their low performing financial status. Stewart At 01:12 PM 9/8/2008, you wrote: At 11:50 AM -0500 9/8/08, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: It also effects how they can borrow and what they pay. I was just

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-08 Thread mike
Now this is good...no smart ass toys r us remark anywhere. I agree RAID controllers can cause a very bad day...as can failed HD's. Can we agree that while MTBF has gone up, that hard drives are not mythical machines that never fail? A 25 user client base needing access to data 24/7. The client

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
It is called return on investment and there is an expectation of a percentage of earnings. Expectation is not an entitlement. There are good profits and bad profits. See note on mafia. Some companies keep a cash reserve for buy outs and reinvesting in the company. They also buy back stock

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
Can you elaborate? I get that a HD failure will make back ups on it mute, but I am now backing up onto an external drive. Is the idea that if I also back up on the HD, I will then have 2 copies in case one or the other drives fail? You are doing the right thing. Your backup should be on at

Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Desktop In Decline

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
I'm not sure the failure or perceived failure of Vista has done anything...even if Vista had been a huge success, google would not have altered it's chrome roadmap. One has nothing to do with the other. I did not say the MS's failure caused Google Chrome. I said that it opened a huge

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
EVERY program? A 2 y/o program is not exactly ancient. Where are the warnings: before you buy, please note ? And what choice does one have? What if we don't like OE (or Vista mail) for mail or IE for browsing? Compare to Apple. The two times they changed processors -- a big enough

Re: [CGUYS] Chrome glitches?

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
The web site that I am developing used only the embed and the noembed tags, but I have now modified with both object and embed. This I haven't uploaded yet. The reason is that I am now unsure what player to specify to open the downloaded mp3 file. Should I specify Quicktime or MS Media

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread mike
Don't want vista? Don't buy it. XP is still around, some vendors are still selling it installed. This is a fake argument. On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only does MS think they own our computers, it looks like they also think they own us. We must

[CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread Tony B
Now we're ramping up the hyperbole? It's *Apple* that has maintained a proprietary OS these many years, requiring a dongle to run (a computer). You can install any version of Windows on 1000's of pieces of hardware and things will (mostly) work. At least Bill is getting out of the way and

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
Without knowing what exactly this is, who knows why? But, the permission model on Vista is different from XP. Microsoft announced this loudly and often to the development community during the beta testing period. Why didn't the mfr of the lock box update their software? Apple has also made a

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
It's *Apple* that has maintained a proprietary OS these many years, requiring a dongle to run (a computer). You can install any version of Windows on 1000's of pieces of hardware and things will (mostly) work. Oops, I just didn't know, so sorry. When did Vista go Open Source? I sure will sing

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread P Yasuda
Larry, For photos, consider storage in the cloud. Smugmug.com allows unlimited photo storage for an annual fee. There are also paid versions of Google's Picasa that provide large amounts of storage. The disadvantage is that it will take a really long time to upload (or download) 200 GB, but

[CGUYS] remapping a keyboard

2008-09-08 Thread Jeff Miles
Does anyone know if there is an application out there for the Mac that would allow me to remap a Logitech keyboard? Awhile back I ruined yet another Mac keyboard, and in a crunch for both time and money, opted for the logitech wireless keyboard and mouse that was only $35 at Fred Meyer's.

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
But what the admins are really looking at is having the same data replicated on multiple NAS. You can do a lot of that with a good SAN, but interoperability issues and expense can limit you there. Also, hardly any server runs its own local database. There are dedicated database machines,

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Sue Cubic
At 02:01 PM 09/08/2008 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote The only Eudora being released is a NEW one put out by the folks at Thunderbird, that is compatible with Vista. There is another. Google on Odysseus email. Looks like that's for Macs? Sue

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Sue Cubic
At 03:25 PM 09/08/2008 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote EVERY program? A 2 y/o program is not exactly ancient. Where are the warnings: before you buy, please note ? And what choice does one have? What if we don't like OE (or Vista mail) for mail or IE for browsing? Compare to Apple. The two

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Sue Cubic
At 12:43 PM 09/08/2008 -0700, mike wrote Don't want vista? Don't buy it. XP is still around, some vendors are still selling it installed. This is a fake argument. No it's not. Only a few vendors will still install XP, and those mostly have to be ordered. If you want the price that's in

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread gerald
that's called dilution. got 1 billion share out. issue 100 mil to purchase a new hot yacht, and a hot honey for decoration, and the stock depreciates by 10%. At 11:42 AM 9/8/2008, you wrote: If a company comes in low for the quarter they are having a problem and it leads to stock sell off,

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread mike
Yes...it is. I didn't say you could get it on the cheapest laptop at Best Buy. I just said it was available. You deny it's available and then in the next sentence admit it is. Mike On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:43 PM 09/08/2008 -0700, mike wrote

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Desktop In Decline

2008-09-08 Thread b_s-wilk
The Search function is on the menu bar (just like before) and you can also type ANYTHING in the old command line bar and it will execute a search. Unless you have added NOTHING to the Dell Machine, do NOT convert to Vista. It reformats the drive and installs Vista. You will lose any apps and

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Desktop In Decline

2008-09-08 Thread mike
You want to search your computer using DOS? Hit the windows key and search from the start menu. Works every time for me. Control panel and index options offers more...options. You could have also opened up his browser and checked the download manager to find where he's putting stuff. Mike

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Desktop In Decline

2008-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
So, I search the same as I did in DOS, right? Isn't Vista supposed to eliminate the need for command-line? In Windows 3.1 I could search any file on the computer for content, and find exactly what I wanted--but not Vista. My husband downloads things, forgets where he puts them and asks me to

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
Vista is hardware agnostic- if the hardware meets the specs. MAC OSX is pickier but yields a more consistent experience given the limited number of platforms it runs on. Going MAC eliminates some of the weirder PC problems even if you only run Vista on it. This illustrates a very

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread Chris Dunford
Oops, I just didn't know, so sorry. When did Vista go Open Source? I sure will sing the praises of MS now that they put their OS into the public domain. Oh, please. You know perfectly well what he was talking about. *

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread mike
A study by http://www.canalys.com/ said that in Q3 2007 and Q4 2007, iphone outsold all windows mobile in the US. Outside the US, Windows mobile was 12% followed by Apple at 7%. Mike http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/12/17/against-odds-iphone-overtakes-windows-mobile-sales-in-q3

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Sue Cubic
At 02:20 PM 09/08/2008 -0700, mike wrote Yes...it is. I didn't say you could get it on the cheapest laptop at Best Buy. I just said it was available. You deny it's available and then in the next sentence admit it is. I'm done here. If all you want is to play semantics, that's enough for

[CGUYS] myEarthLink News Article - RIM captures more than half of smartphone market

2008-09-08 Thread Stewart Marshall
half of smartphone market http://my.earthlink.net/article/tec?guid=20080908/48c4a340_3421_1334520080908-1823972489 = myEarthLink News http://my.earthlink.net/channel/NEWS

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
A study by http://www.canalys.com/ said that in Q3 2007 and Q4 2007, iphone outsold all windows mobile in the US. Outside the US, Windows mobile was 12% followed by Apple at 7%. Mike http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/12/17/against-odds-

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread mike
Not being argumentative ;) but I didn't post articles from mac specific sites on purpose...ars is a apple site? What about canalys? BTW, that article you posted was Q1 2007... Mike On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A study by http://www.canalys.com/ said

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Why do you think every thing is a defense of MS$? (By the way the Mafia is an illegal entity and crime never is justified.) I have no friggin idea how much they hold back and I never mentioned them once in all I wrote. I was giving broad general Brush strokes. Me thinks you are showing

Re: [CGUYS] remapping a keyboard

2008-09-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Does anyone know if there is an application out there for the Mac that would allow me to remap a Logitech keyboard? Awhile back I ruined yet another Mac keyboard, and in a crunch for both time and money, opted for the logitech wireless keyboard and mouse that was only $35 at Fred Meyer's. It

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Jeff Wright
I'm starting to agree with Tom. If I have to buy new software every time MS decides it's time for a change, I might as well tackle the learning curve from Mac. If most businesses are refusing to use Vista, it's not a very good recommend for those of us out here who just want a computer

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
A study by http://www.canalys.com/ said that in Q3 2007 and Q4 2007, iphone outsold all windows mobile in the US. Outside the US, Windows mobile was 12% followed by Apple at 7%. But it is only this month that Apple has made a big push into international markets. Before then, much of the world

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
Not being argumentative ;) but I didn't post articles from mac specific sites on purpose...ars is a apple site? They used to be major WFBs, but I think they defected. Blame Vista. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
This illustrates a very fundamental difference in culture between the 2 platforms: choice vs. dictates. I'll take choice every time. Jeff has been thoroughly re-educated. Microsoft is double-plus good! * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Data backup question

2008-09-08 Thread Tony B
My own recent experience with Jungle Disk and the boss's laptop full of unedited family pictures has not been without trouble. First, some people just don't have the dedication to process any of these pictures. Upon investigation, I found folder after folder full of huge pics of really dumb stuff

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
Vista is hardware agnostic- if the hardware meets the specs. The Mac is hardware agnostic- if the hardware meets the specs. You can buy such hardware from Paystar. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-08 Thread John DeCarlo
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 5 TB NAS, but only one. You do realize that you don't have to buy a dedicated NAS, but can build one yourself out of any old computer that can run Linux. Same for a MySQL server. For a small business, I would

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
Right now I'm tearing my hair out trying to understand how to teach newbies to use a computer. Most of them are seniors, who are not of a mind to replace equipment and software all the time. Nor can I replace mine all the time just to be able to teach them. If the new system were clearly

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
There is another. Google on Odysseus email. Looks like that's for Macs? Well of course. However they do promise to get around to a Windows version eventually (I can't imagine why). * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
For a small business, I would generally recommend using computers they would otherwise discard and set up two, replicated MySQL servers for a reliable database that won't stop if one computer or one disk drive fails. Thank you. Some of our geezers are still acting like the hard drive was the

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread Chris Dunford
I'm starting to agree with Tom. If I have to buy new software every time MS decides it's time for a change That's a bit extreme, Sue. MS has always bent over backwards for compatibility. As I've mentioned here before, I still use DOS programs that were written in the early 80s for a CPU

Re: [CGUYS] miserable was: Re: [CGUYS] Chrome Reflects A Deskto

2008-09-08 Thread John DeCarlo
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Questions to ponder: 1. Did MS make changes in Vista just to annoy customers, or were there good reasons? Some parts had good reasons. Others were simply to have something new, to justify the people who count the number