On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Jeff Wright wrote:
Or, allow competition in the market instead of perpetuating the
same idiotic
guvmint-enforced monopoly scheme.
Are these monopoly schemes that are enforced by the government
actually hatched by the corporation to whom the government has
As for the supposed story (that page had corporate ads linked to the
words such as compute and operating system ... I wouldn't put
too much stock in that story),
I later discovered that the original story came from Business Week. See
HP's End Run Around Windows on Business Week's Technology
Between the Mac, Windows and Linux OS's, Linux is the most rapidly
changing of them all, so your experience several years ago is
likely dated. You might want to look again.
As for Matlab, I wasn't sure of your meaning. If you were referring
to its availability, it does come in Linux, Mac
This issue is getting noticed:
On WAMU right now (NOT the Computer Guys): a program on limiting
bandwidth (and spam laws).
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I have no user experience with them, but there are Virtualizations
that allow running of Windows applications under Linux. One of them
is known as Wine I belive.
Not quite. Wine is a system add-on that attempts (with some success)
to run windows programs natively in Linux. This is
Hopefully this show is more knowledgeable then CG is. None of the guests at
present with Kojo seem to know much at all about any computers, at least
with Tom there you could get good mac info between the occasional windows is
dog doodoo rant.
Small example...Allison said google chrome had no
8 years of failure isn't enough for you true believers? After stripping
the People of their legal protections they let the corporate giants run
amuck. What we got is in the daily news -- a crumbling economy.
Did you 'cc' this to Craigslist's Rants and Raves
Surf over
to Google news
Thanks for the information.
And yes... I did mean tolerable.
I wasn't looking for a recommendation of whether to be a glitterati and
buy a Mac. I was really looking for a specific real world example.
Not to be a PC Bois, or is it busboy - I always forget (although I'm
sure someone will slap a
A rant that could use a healthy dose (okay, any dose) of fact-checking
itself.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
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Seems most journalists write what they think you should think and not
the facts.
I know it's difficult not to get caught up in the
I admit I have NOT read this whole thread ...however, with HP offloading 80%
of it's worldwide workforce as announced today, who exactly will be
maintaining and servicing their supposed proprietary operating system and
answering the fones for jerks like me who can't get it to work?
Dude, the actual number is 7.5 per cent, or 24,600 jobs.
http://triad.bizjournals.com/triad/stories/2008/09/15/daily19.html?ana=yfcpc
Although I can recall hearing on the radio that most of these would be
in the US.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:45 PM, rlsimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I admit I
If you want the market to rule you can't allow oligopoly to rule. Pushing
both simultaneously is crazy talk. Yes, when reality is right there in
front of you and you keep preaching fantasy-land politics instead on
well-established economics that is crazy talk.
You and your ilk created the
And a majority of it will be EDS folks too...
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Are these monopoly schemes that are enforced by the government actually
hatched by the corporation to whom the government has capitulated? In other
words, in the county where I live, Cox has the monopoly. Was the concept of
providing a monopoly to some entity solely the idea of my local
Or, allow competition in the market instead of perpetuating the
same idiotic
guvmint-enforced monopoly scheme.
Yeah, I know, crazy talk.
That's heresy! ;-)
Competition in the market..bite your tongue.
Paula/IN/USA
(Which led to one corrupt and/or dunderheaded council
member in to pronounce that competition doesn't work a whole *3
months* (!) after Verizon was granted permission to compete, because
Verizon only managed to wire a couple thousand homes in that time.)
Are the Council critters required to file
Note that if they can gat away with that, they can do anything else
they
please. Next they will be sending you a list of approved partner
websites where traffic won't be counted against your bandwith cap.
Only option I see is local: getting the neighbors together to let the
local pols know
Dude, the actual number is 7.5 per cent, or 24,600 jobs.
Hold on, that is a post EDS merger trimming. That percentage is not at
all unusual after a merger. The merged company will find many positions
duplicated with only enough work required to justify one position.
It is a sad truth about
Hold on, that is a post EDS merger trimming. That percentage is not at
all unusual after a merger. The merged company will find many positions
duplicated with only enough work required to justify one position.
It is a sad truth about mergers that many good employees get shafted.
That's
Does anyone know what Verizon's policy is regarding bandwidth? Do
they also restrict it? I could go back to their slower service over
the phone lines if Comcast kicks me off.
From an engineering point of view, I think there would be little
incentive to cap FIOS because it does not have the
On Sep 16, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Paula Minor wrote:
Does anyone know what Verizon's policy is regarding bandwidth? Do
they also restrict it? I could go back to their slower service
over the phone lines if Comcast kicks me off.
How would a Comcast subscriber know when that usage limit has
I live in Big Business country and with the exception of maybe 2 other
people in a neighborhood of over 100 families, I am vastly outnumbered.
The world is full of people who are not paying attention or with
ideologically clouded minds. Ironically, your Big Business neighbors
will probably be
How would a Comcast subscriber know when that usage limit has come
close to being exceeded? Does Comcast provide subscribers with
notifications about how much or how little usage they have left
before being kicked off? Is it the subscribers duty to keep tabs
on all their bandwidth usage?
Who knows which came first, but the scmucks at the local level bought
into the flawed idea that only way anyone could get cable is if they
gave the cableco a monpoly to recoup the costs of laying the cable.
The infrastructure has long been installed and costs long ago
recovered, but even now, as
That was realistically true back in 1970. But as recently covered in our
RAID discussion, times change, technology advances, and behavior should
change accordingly.
Except that ther powers that be thinking hasn't changed. If you have
to ask for permission to compete then you don't have a free
Maybe your cable can't, Cox out here has more then enough. Limiting
bandwith has nothing to do with ability to serve.
More people on cable does not mean less bandwith.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We had the cable vs DSL/fiber discussion here a few
Maybe you should be expecting more from your legislators instead of
trying to micromanange an industry so that the results are just
right.
Is pursuing a murderer or a thief micromananging? How about those
meddlers in the fire department? Should we not let fires rage free?
Why should an evil
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We got out notification email today from Comcast telling us that we
will be restricted to 250 gb /mo bandwidth usage beginning Oct. 1.
It doesn't say what they'll do if we go over.
Only option I see is local: getting
Maybe your cable can't, Cox out here has more then enough. Limiting
bandwith has nothing to do with ability to serve.
True. But it has everything to do with justifying charging more for a
service.
More people on cable does not mean less bandwith.
But, more people on cable means more profits!
It is my understanding that the local municipality negotiates
contracts with the cable companies and they have to meet specific
goals and or marks to keep the franchise.
I know locally Charter just about lost their franchise when the local
municipality had their accounts audited and it turned
I believe you're correct - the local municipality can hold Comcast (or
the cable provider to their contract and wield power over them with it)
accountable for the TV portion of the service. The internet service is
something outside a city's purview.
However, someone in the municipality can
Maybe you should be expecting more from your legislators instead of
trying to micromanange an industry so that the results are just
right.
Is pursuing a murderer or a thief micromananging?
In and of itself no. But should the legislators be pursuing a murderer
or a thief? But legislators
Does anyone know what Verizon's policy is regarding bandwidth? Do
they also restrict it? I could go back to their slower service over
the phone lines if Comcast kicks me off.
From an engineering point of view, I think there would be little
incentive to cap FIOS because it does not have
So, I wrote to Comcast today to let them know that this LONG time
Comcast customer was going to have serious issues with their
bandwidth limit because I would be backing up many hundreds of GB's
of data to an online service and that was perfectly legal to do. Was
I going to be 'punished'
How would a Comcast subscriber know when that usage limit has come
close to being exceeded? Does Comcast provide subscribers with
notifications about how much or how little usage they have left
before being kicked off? Is it the subscribers duty to keep tabs
on all their bandwidth
Very nice Cut and Paste response that doesn't even being to address
anything you've asked.
For fun, check with your local City Manager's Office and voice your
concerns to them. Explain you're just trying to backup tax records,
photos of your kids and other things you don't want to lose in case
On Sep 16, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
Except that ther powers that be thinking hasn't changed. If you have
to ask for permission to compete then you don't have a free market and
you shouldn't be too surprised with the results.
While I can perceive logic in your argument, the fact
Yes and no FCC did change some of the rules and many cable companies
are just waiting at the door for a municipality to get upset and go
looking for a new provider.
Just south of us is a municipality with 50-75K inhabitants.
I believe they have a choice between 3 different Cable operators.
On Sep 16, 2008, at 7:03 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
It is my understanding that the local municipality negotiates
contracts with the cable companies and they have to meet specific
goals and or marks to keep the franchise.
Not so. In the county where I live, the authorized cable
At 08:05 PM 9/16/2008, you wrote:
Date:Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:48:30 -0400
From:John Duncan Yoyo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Comcast puts on the brakes
I wonder what would happen if a significant percentage of the subscribers
went over one month? I'm guessing that they couldn't afford
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, b_s-wilk wrote:
HP had its own OS almost 20 years ago, but it was only for
enterprise. It was pretty good. We used HP/UX for the workstations
to do 3D grid modeling for robots. With a good GUI, it might be
competitive with OS X. How's it with CDE?
Had? HP still
The cable provider's contract with the county has never been
seriously threatened despite these oft repeated failures. The reason
they have not been so punished? It would be far too troublesome to
introduce a new provider while simultaneously retaining full service
for current cable
Sound to me that some fantail lawyer will break that up and make them
refund your internet charges for any month that you can't use the service..
If Comcast is a regulated public utility and you pay your bills do they
really have the right to cut off your service for any other reason?
Can the
I live in Big Business country and with the exception of maybe 2 other
people in a neighborhood of over 100 families, I am vastly outnumbered.
The world is full of people who are not paying attention or with
ideologically clouded minds. Ironically, your Big Business neighbors
will probably be
Your broadband speed on cable will slow down as more people use it.
Cable is like a party line on telephones 50 years ago. We have basic
slow broadband, but it's as cheap or cheaper than dialup. Verizon gives
that choice, if you catch the deal on the right day. It still sucks,
just not as much
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