[CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IT)
I bought my last stereo receiver, a nice one from Denon, in the late 1980's and it is time to replace it now. With TV going digital and all the other technology changes, what should I be looking for, especially if I'd like to get about 20 years from the new one? Where are good place to look at

[CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread David Turk
In an effort to cut back on costs, we switched our home phone service to basic, unlimited calls-no voicemail, forwarding, call waiting, etc. I dug an old digital answering machine out of the closet, but it had a ton of static on it. I bought a small new one ( there was only one model

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread Mike Sloane
You can join the FMtuners Yahoo group and discuss this with the members, but I suspect that you will be told that your old Denon, if it is still working well, is as good as anything new out there, unless you are willing to invest some Big Bucks. In the case of audio gear, newer isn't always

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
If it were a DSL filtering problem you would have the static all the time. A problem with the ends of messages would have me suspect the machine, but if you tried two new machines I don't think it is that. It could be a problem with the signaling that tells the machine the call is over, but I

Re: [CGUYS] Safari 4 Beta

2009-02-25 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:40 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Insert Javascript into that sentence, cowboy, and you'd have it. Who runs IE? Those crazy zune people? I just wish I could get my Dad to stop using IE. I keep trying to get him to use firefox Safari 4 has a few massively

Re: [CGUYS] Safari 4 Beta

2009-02-25 Thread Ellen Rains Harris
Gee, sounds like Chrome. - Original Message - From: John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com Safari 4 has a few massively cool features. Cover flow on your web history so you can look for actual web pages. It also has a top dozen web sites that show up in a 3 by 4 grid. --

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread gerald
you probably should make certain the machine has HDMI switching. then you can plug the dvd and the cable box into the back of the receiver on the way to the tv and switch. a second feature that may not be necessary is that the receiver can have the upscaling chip and software(converting dvd

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread Tony B
I think, in 2009, you may be going at the problem the wrong way. As you've discovered, answering machines went out way back in the 90s. Really, you've got to start thinking outside the old phone company box. Assuming you don't already have good cell reception at home, even Vonage's basic service

[CGUYS] firefox 3.0.6

2009-02-25 Thread gerald
jar:file:///C:/Program%20Files/Mozilla%20Firefox/chrome/en-US.jar!/locale/browser-region/region.propertiesrds.yahoo.com i get this love note a lot. did not get it a few months back. i also loaded foxit at about the same time. any new page seems to take a while thinking about it before it

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread David Turk
OK, here's something I've been wondering for awhile. If I discontinue my home phone service, will I still be able to get DSL from my ISP (Earthlink in this case), since it comes in over the phone lines? david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It depends. My daughter and S-I-L recently installed DSL and have no land line phone. Local Phone company is pushing their DSL service even if you desire no landline phone. Got a great introductory rate, 19.95 per month for 1.5 service. Stewart At 10:02 AM 2/25/2009, you wrote: OK,

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Tony B
I don't see why not, especially since you may not be getting it from the local phone company right now. I assumed you were, which was why you were reluctant to give up the old landline. Anyway, a quick call to your phone company/Earthlink should answer the question and supply pricing info. But

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IT)
sigh Your message reflects a big part of my problem; It is just radio. No DVD, no TV. I would like the money going into just radio reception (analogue and digital audio), amplification and distribution to speakers. I don't really want to pay for home theater. Thank you, Mark Snyder

Re: [CGUYS] firefox 3.0.6

2009-02-25 Thread Tony B
Is that a question? Have you tried simply renaming/deleting en-US.jar (and the associated .manifest file)? Presumably it will be reinstalled automatically. You might first try updating Java - go to the Java test page and look around. http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp On Wed, Feb 25,

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Judy Cosler
don't you need/shouldn't you have a land line in case you need 911? On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see why not, especially since you may not be getting it from the local phone company right now. I assumed you were, which was why you were reluctant to

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Tony B
No, all the VOIP services offer 911 now. Only difference is you must keep it updated - if you move, or if you're traveling, you change it. I don't have a cell phone so I have no idea how 911 works on all those different networks. Of course, if you *expect* trouble, say in the case of an ailing

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
E911 can be used from a Cell phone or the VOIP services. (It is required) There was just a stink down here in one of the municipalities that the Cell phone providers had not been giving them the info for E911 system to work effectively. But it should not matter if it is VOIP or land line

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread Michael S. Altus
David Turk wrote: In an effort to cut back on costs, we switched our home phone service to basic, unlimited calls-no voicemail, forwarding, call waiting, etc. I dug an old digital answering machine out of the closet, but it had a ton of static on it. I bought a small new one ( there was

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Judy Cosler
like 'Home Alone'?? not sure of the name. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: No, all the VOIP services offer 911 now. Only difference is you must keep it updated - if you move, or if you're traveling, you change it. I don't have a cell phone so I have no idea

[CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk
How do you make a bootable CD for Mac OS X Tiger? The install disk is on a DVD, and was installed through a network. The system is on an iMac that only has a CD-RW drive. The iMac was given to me, and I gave it to my brother, but without recovery disks. I have a Tiger installation DVD that

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk
We're using an old Panasonic answering machine that uses regular audio tapes. The messages are clear to the end, as the line is filtered. Try a different answering machine. I'll probably switch to the built-in answering feature on our Panasonic DECT 6 base station when the old machine dies.

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread David Turk
Betty, Where would you find a tape-based machine? Goodwill? David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 dt...@indianahistory.org -Original Message-

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread johnleehol...@gmail.com
I don't know if this helps but Crutchfield's catalog has a succinct guide. You can request a hard copy from them but this seems to be the online version of it. http://www.crutchfield.com/Learn/learningcenter/home/receivers.html I haven't bought a receiver since the 90s and worry that the

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread Tony B
Would there be any reason in 2009 to consider a receiver that couldn't pick up internet radio? I mean, talk about receiving far away stations clearly... http://www.crutchfield.com/g_200650/Streamers.html?tp=255 * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:01 PM, David Turk dt...@indianahistory.orgwrote: Betty, Where would you find a tape-based machine? Goodwill? I found three by googling analog answering machine. This is the first sales site that came up.

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
If I discontinue my home phone service, will I still be able to get DSL from my ISP (Earthlink in this case), since it comes in over the phone lines? Yes but they will probably charge extra for it. Around here the phone companies have started to offer basic service for $10 to encourage folks

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread db
Remember that with VOIP if the power goes out... VOIP will tend to go out too while POTS tends to be the last comm. service standing. And in times of regional crisis, cellular is typically out too. For a period after the Seattle and LA earthquakes and 9/11 all cell circuits were busy. POTS

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread db
Can't Carbon Copy Cloner and some other backup software make bootable CD's db b_s-wilk wrote: How do you make a bootable CD for Mac OS X Tiger? The install disk is on a DVD, and was installed through a network. The system is on an iMac that only has a CD-RW drive. The iMac was given to me,

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
I haven't bought a receiver since the 90s and worry that the time may be coming when I need to look into this. Me too, but I have yet to find a radio that is as well made as the 20-year-old Yamaha I own. Yamaha still makes radios, but nothing like what I have. Plus I would not buy a new radio

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Replace the CD-RW drive with a DVD drive. This should be a cheaper and easier task. The install disk is on a DVD, and was installed through a network. The system is on an iMac that only has a CD-RW drive. The iMac was given to me, and I gave it to my brother, but without recovery disks. I have

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Tony B
That's true. But there are two things to consider. 1) POTS will go out too during emergencies, as it too is a trunked system, relying on having only a few users on at a time. 2) On a day to day basis, how often do catastrophes happen? Last time I remember the phones not working was on 9/11, but I

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread db
The thing that bothers me with the new DECT 6 answering machines is I could not find one that would support multiple voicemail box recordings. They used to but new models seem to have dropped that ... good for families capability. db b_s-wilk wrote: We're using an old Panasonic

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IT)
Are we using HD and digital transmission (instead of analog) as same or different things, in terms or radio/stereo receivers? I liked my Denon, too, but it is starting to fail... Aren't radio transmitters going to digital transmission, the way TV is now? Any incentive for them to it later

Re: [CGUYS] GETPOST COMPUTERGUYS-L

2009-02-25 Thread Jeffrey Myers
The best way to get stations really clearly from far away is a SqueezeboxBoom from Logitech. Just hook it up to your network, which was really easy for me (by no means a network expert), and you can get stations from anywhere in the world. I love mine so much I bought another for another

Re: [CGUYS] Google Accused of Massive Coverup

2009-02-25 Thread John Settle
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Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Aren't radio transmitters going to digital transmission, the way TV is now? Any incentive for them to it later rather than sooner? They call it HD Radio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Can't Carbon Copy Cloner and some other backup software make bootable CD's Not if the capacity of the CD is much smaller than the capacity of the DVD. Before Apple switched to DVDs they were shipping the OS on multiple CDs. For making a minimal boot disk, there was a free utility called Das

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread John Settle
Snyder, Mark - IdM (IT) wrote: Are we using HD and digital transmission (instead of analog) as same or different things, in terms or radio/stereo receivers? I liked my Denon, too, but it is starting to fail... Aren't radio transmitters going to digital transmission, the way TV is now? Any

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
I just don't think it's realistic to base our lives around remote possibilities. I see you are from the Dick Cheney school of disaster planning, still waiting for the Iraquis to throw rose petals at us. But if you do, then you MUST go all the way and get an amateur radio license and maintain a

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread John Settle
Tom Piwowar wrote: Aren't radio transmitters going to digital transmission, the way TV is now? Any incentive for them to it later rather than sooner? They call it HD Radio In radio's case, the HD stands for Hybrid Digital

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk
Where would you find a tape-based machine? Goodwill? We got ours at a Du Pont company surplus sale. Try eBay, craig's list? This is similar: http://snipurl.com/cn33l. I got one new in 1988, and after the cats knocked it down too many times, I got another one, used, and have been using for

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk
Would there be any reason in 2009 to consider a receiver that couldn't pick up internet radio? I mean, talk about receiving far away stations clearly... http://www.crutchfield.com/g_200650/Streamers.html?tp=255 Would there be any reason to pay megabucks more for a receiver when you can

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread Tony B
I suppose I should point out answering machines aren't compatible with all systems. e.g. My MagicJack has a hard wired 4 ring limit, so you would have to set your answering machine to 3 rings to trump it; not a very viable solution. As I recall the more expensive VOIP systems gave you more control

[CGUYS] Iraqi attack imminent

2009-02-25 Thread Tony B
I suppose if you think the Iraqis pose a large threat to yourself, then you probably do think emergency radio communications is an absurd idea. Ah well; hard to argue that one. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I just don't think it's realistic to base our lives

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations--different radio service options

2009-02-25 Thread Judy Cosler
Tony mentions internet radio. can anybody tell me the differences between internet radio, XMS, what you get with your TV cable provider, and others that I can't think of right now??? On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Would there be any reason in 2009 to consider a

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Judy Cosler
POTS?? On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:28 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Remember that with VOIP if the power goes out... VOIP will tend to go out too while POTS tends to be the last comm. service standing. And in times of regional crisis, cellular is typically out too. For a period after the

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread Jim
I believe you can make a bootable drive out of a thumb drive. Plus you could add any repair utilities you wanted. Jim On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:23 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: How do you make a bootable CD for Mac OS X Tiger? The install disk is on a DVD, and was installed through a network. The

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread rleesimon
with dsl you could get www.phonepower.com which has all the features you need and save a bundle...I got it when they had 10%off and paid for a whole year for which they offered 2nd year free ...wow!! It is the clearest connection I ever had and also has online message reading as well as each

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread E. Riley Casey
Apple makes the install disks model specific. An installer disk for an iMac won't work on an iBook etc. They may well have the very same files but only the Apple over the counter install disks will work with any machine you pop it into. This has been the case for at least ten years. At

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Richard P.
I've used POTS twice this month alone when the power went out(along with the heat), while it was less than 20 degrees outside. I consider that enough of an emergency use to be worth having and paying for. In addition, the sound quality is superior to any non-POTS service I've heard. If Verizon

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Richard P.
Plain Old Telephone Service, also known as analog. Richard P. POTS?? Remember that with VOIP if the power goes out... VOIP will tend to go out too while POTS tends to be the last comm. service standing.  And in times of regional crisis, cellular is typically out too.  For a period after

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread rleesimon
I don't think that's sufficient justification to keep POTS ...just buy a simple battery backup unit which, for the small draw of a cable modem and the voip modem, will likely last many hours most likely longer than any outage at least around here ...I was with ATT.net ever since they came over

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
POTS?? Plain Old Telephone Service Believe it of not, that is the industry term for it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread rleesimon
voip with some providers needs the computer to run it (like it is for www.magicjack.com) ...but for the kind of voip I got, only the 2 modems need to run; I shut down my computer system at night. I never knew that until I researched about it and it became one reason why I got www.phonepower.com

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Mike Sloane
I agree with the concept of what you wrote, but when I lose power, the DSL service AND the voice line goes out about 15 minutes later (I have a backup generator that keeps my house power up). It seems that I am served by a local repeater that has its own battery backup - one that is supposed

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
During Katrina the only way to reach many of the people in and around the NO area was text messaging on cell phones. Land Lines were out, Some Cell towers were overwhelmed and the Internet of course was out. During the tornado in Enterprise, AL, again Cell phones were one of the few

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines

2009-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Have a digital one with 4 mail boxes. Want it? Stewart At 01:47 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote: The thing that bothers me with the new DECT 6 answering machines is I could not find one that would support multiple voicemail box recordings. They used to but new models seem to have dropped that ...

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Lutheran Disaster Response recommends that some within a congregation get a ARL and buy hand held portable radios. For when all else fails, and all land lines, etc. fail, ARL is still on the air. ARL are much easier to get than they used to be, and a decent hand held radio is only about

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Mike Sloane
Plain Old Telephone Service Mike Judy Cosler wrote: POTS?? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Hybird Digital is not at all like Digital TV. It is a way that radio stations can pump out more options. Many are going to it, but it is not al all mandated like the digital conversion. Stewart At 02:31 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote: Snyder, Mark - IdM (IT) wrote: Are we using HD and digital

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread rleesimon
I must say, I have DSL speed but it is the cable from the cable TV provider, not the phone wire ...with that, I have reached the bitter end of my personal knowledgebase... -Original Message- From: db [mailto:db...@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:42 PM To: rleesimon Subject:

Re: [CGUYS] Iraqi attack imminent

2009-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Try living in a Hurricane and Tornado prone area. You get all the options to communicate because you just might need one. Stewart At 03:11 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote: I suppose if you think the Iraqis pose a large threat to yourself, then you probably do think emergency radio communications is

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread Stephen Brownfield
On my old iMac I attached an external Firewire/USB2 DVD burner. (I have to boot by Firewire because I do not have USB 2. ) That is how I put Tiger on my iMac from a DVD. A thumb drive will work only if you have USB 2. Someone stated that the Apple install disks are model specific. This is

Re: [CGUYS] Iraqi attack imminent

2009-02-25 Thread mike
I've got a friend in canada with her HAM license, she uses it in part for tornado watching in her area. Sometimes low tech is the best tech. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Try living in a Hurricane and Tornado prone area. You get all the

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread Jim
I was wrong about MicroMat. Their device was firewire only. Jim On Feb 25, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Jeff Miles wrote: Are you sure this is possible? I wanted to put OS X on my external drive, but it's a USB drive and OS X wouldn't load as a workable operating system to a USB drive. All thumb

Re: [CGUYS] Iraqi attack imminent

2009-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You got it when worse comes to worse (which it does every so often, especially when you least expect it) the low tech options seem to keep on working a lot like the old Timex's. Stewart At 04:58 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote: I've got a friend in canada with her HAM license, she uses it in part

[CGUYS] Dragon engine, MacSpeech

2009-02-25 Thread Constance Warner
I just found out that a speech recognition program for Mac which is based on Dragon Naturally Speaking--widely considered to be the best voice recognition program yet produced--has been available since January 2008, when MacSpeech Dictate won best-in-show at MacWorld. It's gotten reviews

Re: [CGUYS] Iraqi attack imminent

2009-02-25 Thread rleesimon
I have 2 green giant peas cans and a string to the neighbor ...how's that? -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:xha...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Iraqi attack imminent I've got a friend in canada with her HAM license, she uses it in part for

Re: [CGUYS] Iraqi attack imminent

2009-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That will work for local communication. Stewart At 06:08 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote: I have 2 green giant peas cans and a string to the neighbor ...how's that? -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:xha...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Iraqi attack

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread Jeff Miles
Also I was only asking basically. I was trying to put a full version of OS X on the USB drive, not just make it a bootable drive. And I do believe there is a difference. But I'm not sure if there is a difference when it comes to full OS X and a boot drive for OS X. I'll quit now because

Re: [CGUYS] Iraqi attack imminent

2009-02-25 Thread Constance Warner
Wonder if anybody else remembers this--shortly after 9/11, a lot of people in this [National Capitol] area were buying off-the-shelf walkie-talkies. They're short-range, but the idea was that you could get a message through to a distant destination via other cooperating walkie-talkie

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Lutheran Disaster Response recommends that some within a congregation get a ARL and buy hand held portable radios. Yes it is sensible for 1 person out of a 1,000 to serve the community, but it is not a high priority for every individual. If I lived in some remote location I would certainly up

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Apple makes the install disks model specific. An installer disk for an iMac won't work on an iBook etc. They may well have the very same files but only the Apple over the counter install disks will work with any machine you pop it into. This has been the case for at least ten years.

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
I think MicoMat sold a thumb drive with their TechTool disk repair utility on it. They do (did?), but it is a FireWire flash drive. Some Macs can boot from USB, but older Macs will do so only via FireWire. * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Iraqi attack imminent

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Wonder if anybody else remembers this--shortly after 9/11, a lot of people in this [National Capitol] area were buying off-the-shelf walkie-talkies. They're short-range, but the idea was that you could get a message through to a distant destination via other cooperating walkie-talkie

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
If Verizon would include POTS in their TV/Internet/Phone package, I would have signed up with them long ago Amen. Instead they come and rip out your POTS and set you up with a tiny battery of uncertain reliability. Not good.

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk
That's true. But there are two things to consider. 1) POTS will go out too during emergencies, as it too is a trunked system, relying on having only a few users on at a time. 2) On a day to day basis, how often do catastrophes happen? Last time I remember the phones not working was on 9/11,

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk
I don't think that's sufficient justification to keep POTS ...just buy a simple battery backup unit which, for the small draw of a cable modem and the voip modem, will likely last many hours most likely longer than any outage at least around here ...I was with ATT.net ever since they came over

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Tony B
Certainly flaky power is a consideration when evaluating communications systems for the home. Ours is very reliable, and when it does go out, I don't really get any big urge to call anyone. I suppose I could have a medical emergency during a power outage when my wife isn't home with her cell

Re: [CGUYS] Iraqi attack imminent

2009-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk
My friend has a shortwave base station that has worked for years. It's the best first responder emergency radio system. Shortwave operators gave reports during Katrina and 9/11 when nobody else could get through. Shortwave probably will die when BPL comes online. Too bad. There's enough real

Re: [CGUYS] Recovery [Boot] CD for Mac OS X Tiger

2009-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk
Are you sure this is possible? I wanted to put OS X on my external drive, but it's a USB drive and OS X wouldn't load as a workable operating system to a USB drive. All thumb drives I've seen have been USB. Jeff M We tested a 16GB thumb drive as a boot drive at a meeting last month. Yes you

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Tony B
Although cable *may* go out during a power outage, it may not - people here on the mountain tell about using their generators and being amazed cable was still up. Besides, VOIP can also be carried over satellite or DSL, and cell phones usually don't go out with the power either. On Wed, Feb 25,

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread katan
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:27:04 -0600, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IT) wrote: sigh Your message reflects a big part of my problem; It is just radio. No DVD, no TV. I would like the money going into just radio reception (analogue and digital audio), amplification and distribution to speakers. I don't really

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread katan
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:47:23 -0500, Tony B wrote: Would there be any reason in 2009 to consider a receiver that couldn't pick up internet radio? I mean, talk about receiving far away stations clearly... Sure. You have an old laptop that can serve the purpose. And it can also serve up the iTunes.

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Richard P.
While cellphones don't usually go out with power, they did in the DC area several years ago after high winds came through. The power for the local cellphone towers went down for a couple of days but POTS still worked the entire time (thank you Verizon!). Richard P and cell phones usually don't

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread rleesimon
They just got fios to the county seat ...in a good wind I can spit into that jurisdiction ...however, we do NOT get FIOS and they say no breath holding is advised ...I am with comcast now which gives me net at dsl speed and free tv basic for a year ...I have never been a comcast customer before

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread rleesimon
...we just got a large race car venue here and the homeland security apparently required the principal routes leading to/from it be covered by cellular resulting in an app before our planning/zoning board for a tower to cover the gulph there ...I don't think you are alone thinking the pots is

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: If Verizon would include POTS in their TV/Internet/Phone package, I would have signed up with them long ago Amen. Instead they come and rip out your POTS and set you up with a tiny battery of uncertain reliability. Not good.

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread rleesimon
I have seen an article which states you can insist they leave the pots; some say you tell them you are getting an alarm system that requires pots to work ...what they want is the copper!! -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar [mailto:t...@tjpa.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:40

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread rleesimon
magic jack requires a computer to work ...my voip works with only the cable modem and the phone modem. -Original Message- From: b_s-wilk [mailto:b1sun...@yahoo.es] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:08 PM Subject: Re: DSL answering machines/DSL phone service That's true. But

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread rleesimon
my 3 nieces lived within a short radius of the wtc at the time of 9/11 ...we finally reached them by cell phone even though the towers went down ...they were able to get some service from nj ...we are forever thankful the buildings, if they were destined to fall, did so as they did straight down.

Re: [CGUYS] Iraqi attack imminent

2009-02-25 Thread db
Doesn't seem right to knock out all shortwave communication with BPL. I'm surprised there hasn't been suits because of bandwidth infringment. db b_s-wilk wrote: My friend has a shortwave base station that has worked for years. It's the best first responder emergency radio system. Shortwave

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
They recommended one person per congregation! You forget how people associate sometimes. 1 per a thousand would be useless and would fast be overwhelmed. Stewart At 06:34 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote: Lutheran Disaster Response recommends that some within a congregation get a ARL and buy

Re: [CGUYS] Stereo Receiver Tech Considerations

2009-02-25 Thread Jeff Wright
Me too, but I have yet to find a radio that is as well made as the 20-year-old Yamaha I own. Yamaha still makes radios, but nothing like what I have. Plus I would not buy a new radio that did not include HD and Internet streaming. Put all those needs together and there is nothing available.

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Jeff Wright
Ours was cut right at the NID and left on the line. I watched my FIOS installation go in an he left the POTS line connected at the house and I don't think he disconnected us at the pole. I wonder if it was disconnected.

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Eric S. Sande
Does FIOS have backup power from the main office like POTS? No, but neither does much of POTS if you are served out of a remote terminal of some kind. Which people increasingly are. Many or most of these devices have some kind of backup and that is where we would deploy crews first. I think

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread b_s-wilk
I don't understand why Verizon has chosen to go with only FIOS. Yes, fiber-optic has more bandwidth, but at a huge price. Since you can use POTS copper lines for VDSL at 100Mbps speed for a lower cost than FIOS, why not do both? The original cost for the DSL switches less than 8 years ago was

Re: [CGUYS] DSL answering machines/DSL phone service

2009-02-25 Thread Eric S. Sande
I don't understand why Verizon has chosen to go with only FIOS. I think I tried to explain this at some point. I'll try it again. We get a greater rate of return from an all optical network, frankly. Yes it costs more to deploy and not everyone will choose to take it. That is called take