Re: [CGUYS] I'm so confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update

2007-12-16 Thread mike
with telcos. - Original Message - From: Jeff Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] I'm so confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update I'm the furthest from

Re: [CGUYS] I'm so confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update

2007-12-16 Thread Paula Minor
Mike said: It's only anecdotal but I've heard from many people across the country with DSL that they almost always get the lesser service then what they pay for on average. This is exactly what she described. When she dropped it to the service she was actually getting, the actual speed

Re: [CGUYS] I'm so confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update

2007-12-16 Thread Jordan
I know this goes against what the cable company says, and what we all believe, but the last few times I've had a problem with my cable connection I've had to use the opposite turn on order to get it going again. Yes, I'm saying I turned on the router and then the modem. If nothing else works,

[CGUYS] I'm so confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update

2007-12-15 Thread Paula Minor
I decided to go ahead and set up the ATT DSL and see if I liked it. I had signed up for the elite service which was to give me up to 6000kb/s. Of course she didn't tell me up to but said I'd get 6000 kb/s. I managed to figure out how to turn off the wireless in the ATT modem so I could

Re: [CGUYS] I'm so confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update

2007-12-15 Thread mike
You can have both, but after the AT$T experience I'd say dump it. The problems you are having are not unusual..AT$T's motto is 'we aren't happy till you aren't happy.' I didn't make that up, I stole it from a podcast. If your cable modem is like mine it has several lights. One of them should

Re: [CGUYS] I'm so confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update

2007-12-15 Thread John DeCarlo
Paula, For getting cable set back up, here are some thoughts for simple steps: 1. Turn off the Cable Modem. 2. Turn off the Apple Airport Extreme router. 3. Turn on the Cable Modem. 4. Look for the Cable Modem light to indicate it is connected. On mine, it is the cable light of the four. 5.

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2007-12-15 Thread Paula Minor
Mike said: .AT$T's motto is 'we aren't happy till you aren't happy.' Funny but sad. I will say that everyone I worked with was very nice and tried hard to make sure everything was going as it should...tho they did screw up the initial order requiring me to cancel everything and start

Re: [CGUYS] I'm so confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update

2007-12-15 Thread Jeff Miles
I'm the furthest from an expert, but in the past have dabbled in both the DSL and Cable. I've stuck with cable. I have absolutely no qualifications in this, but only what I've been told. Cable works in blocks and depending on how many people are connected to your block at the time you are

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2007-12-15 Thread Eric S. Sande
confused...need simple instructions. was:Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update I'm the furthest from an expert, but in the past have dabbled in both the DSL and Cable. I've stuck with cable. I have absolutely no qualifications in this, but only what I've been told. Cable works in blocks

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-14 Thread mike
No worries on that end, filter is in the right place. Mike On Dec 11, 2007 3:34 PM, Mike Sloane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You do realize that the filter goes on the voice line, not the data line, right? I am not trying to be sarcastic - it is an easy mistake to make. Mike mike wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-14 Thread mike
It could be, I've been meaning to do some rearranging of my phone lines and I'll probably set it up the way you have it. mike On 12/11/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried 3 different filters. No go. Maybe something else is going wrong? This is just a simple low pass filter

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-14 Thread mike
How differently each of us sees things. I was forced into 1.5mbit over a year ago and have been suffering ever since. I can't do more then one thing at a time. I used to download all my podcasts in a minute or so, now i'm waiting almost an hour for all of them to update one or two at a time

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update

2007-12-13 Thread mike
you don't have to change your setup, you can set the dsl modem up in DMZ mode...essentially making it a straight passthru device like a cable modem. Mike On Dec 12, 2007 6:38 PM, Paula Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The box with my DSL ATT stuff arrived today and Im not sure I'm going to even

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2007-12-13 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That is also what I had to do with my DSL modem (Westel) and it worked like a charm afterwards. You have to find the right tech person to help you, or look up the settings in the book. Stewart At 07:43 AM 12/13/2007, you wrote: I had a similar situation and I was able to put the DSL modem

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2007-12-13 Thread Jay Montero
I had a similar situation and I was able to put the DSL modem into bridge mode and bypass its router/firewall functions entirely. Of course, I had my own router/firewall I used in its place. Finding out how to get the modem into bridge mode did take some research. on Wed, 12 Dec, Paula

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2007-12-13 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall Let me correct myself DSL modems are different than Cable modems. Why doesn't he just remove the antennas? -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with

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2007-12-13 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Paula Minor Wayne D: Why doesn't he just remove the antennas? I think you're talking to me, Wayne. There are no antennas to remove on the ATT modem. An ATT guy came today to check my line and turn snip Well that answers that question ... nothing to remove. -- Take care | This clown

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2007-12-13 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Rev. Stewart Marshall Because it is still acting as a router and can interfere with another router/wireless access point. What needs to be done is turn the routing function off in the DSL modem and set it as bridge so it gets logged in by the router (ppoe?) and then the router handles all

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-12 Thread b_s-wilk
mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Qwest. One of my friends who is on cox cable and lives about two miles away gets regular download speeds of 12mbit. I count myself lucky if I get 1. We had some problems last year with Verizon DSL basic service. It was slow, dropping off, after having it

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok? Update

2007-12-12 Thread Paula Minor
The box with my DSL ATT stuff arrived today and Im not sure I'm going to even try to install it. I hadn't realized that their modem was also the wireless box. I have NO intention of redoing my wireless network again. I just bought...and lovean Airport extreme and want to use it.

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2007-12-12 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Let me correct myself DSL modems are different than Cable modems. Stewart At 08:22 PM 12/12/2007, you wrote: NO! DSL modems are completely different than DSL modems. You need to contact ATT and see about getting a plain jane DSL modem. I can understand them wanting you to use theirs and I

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread Daniel Else
I use Verizon DSL, so I can't address the service question. As for DSL itself, I have no complaints - fast (relative to the dial-up modem it replace) and so far trouble-free (we've been on it for about a year). Interference with the phone is eliminated by in-line noise filters. Though the

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread mike
I have DSL but not ATT DSL. DSL is slower then cable, so if speed is what you are after I'd stick with cable. Also in my case, the line noise filters don't work very well. Qwest will do nothing about the lack of speed, line noise or that I pay a horrendous amount for what I'm getting. Mike On

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
I had to call ATT for a question about my phone bill and they talked me into trying out their DSL internet. It was cheaper than comcast cable so I agreed to try it out. Does anyone have any experience with it? I use Verizon at home and office. Works fine. My impression is that the kinks

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have DSL but not ATT DSL. DSL is slower then cable, so if speed is what you are after I'd stick with cable. DSL *can be* faster. In practice it is often a lot slower. DSL bandwith is dedicated to you and is throttled back to give you the speed you pay for. Cable is shared so your speed

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
I've tried 3 different filters. No go. Maybe something else is going wrong? This is just a simple low pass filter that keeps the high frequency signal away from the phones. At my house instead of fussing with lots of filters I just used one at the head end to split off POTS from the data

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread Mike Sloane
I have Verizon DSL in northwestern NJ, and the service is excellent, no problems with voice interfering with date or visa versa. Neither Cable nor FIOS are option in my rural area, but I am more than satisfied with the line speed (about 1.5 mb/sec down and about half that up). And since I get

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread Mike Sloane
You do realize that the filter goes on the voice line, not the data line, right? I am not trying to be sarcastic - it is an easy mistake to make. Mike mike wrote: I've tried 3 different filters. No go. Mike On Dec 11, 2007 12:36 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have DSL but

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread Paula Minor
DSL *can be* faster. In practice it is often a lot slower. DSL bandwith is dedicated to you and is throttled back to give you the speed you pay for. Cable is shared so your speed depends on who you are sharing with. As we have seen recently with Comcast, it can also be limited in various

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread Paula Minor
How differently each of us sees things. I was forced into 1.5mbit over a year ago and have been suffering ever since. I can't do more then one thing at a time. I used to download all my podcasts in a minute or so, now i'm waiting almost an hour for all of them to update one or two at a time

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread Paula Minor
ATT tried to do the same to me. I figured that I would be getting something more reliable, but slower. I opted to wait until FIOS was in the neighborhood. It may be worthwhile to you to have the reliability over the speed. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own No, John, speed is

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread mike
Qwest. One of my friends who is on cox cable and lives about two miles away gets regular download speeds of 12mbit. I count myself lucky if I get 1. Mike On Dec 11, 2007 6:48 PM, Paula Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How differently each of us sees things. I was forced into 1.5mbit over a

Re: [CGUYS] ATT DSL ok?

2007-12-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Recently this past summer, I signed up for my local Telco's 6 mp DSL Internet service. Got the modem, hooked it up, changed the router info to log me in automatically, and I was off to the races one small program. Drop offs. Every so often I would drop off. My messenger programs would