Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-04-03 Thread Jeff Wright
Seriously, this is funnier than Monty Python's old Ministry of Arguments sketch. No, it isn't! If only this thread would pine for the fjords. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-04-02 Thread mike
How were they to move around all day? I've always wondered... On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Get with the program! the 20 iMac is much more practical... I spent the day working on several 24-inch iMacs. It was s nice.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-04-02 Thread Chris Dunford
- I need a decent-size screen and a real keyboard. Not in class you don't. At home you use a real keyboard and any of a number of inexpensive flat panel monitors. Once again, you're telling me what I need and don't need, which has been the basic McFan response here. The response is not,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-04-02 Thread Chris Dunford
Please point out what solution to this set of needs Apple provides: You forgot to insist that it must be brown. What a silly, meaningless response this is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-04-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
How were they to move around all day? I've always wondered... I just noticed that some of the seats on Metro trains have electric outlets under them. Obviously put there for iMac users. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-04-01 Thread Chris Dunford
Seriously, this is funnier than Monty Python's old Ministry of Arguments sketch. No, it isn't! Yes, it is. Oh look, this isn't an argument. It occurred to me last night that there's another Python bit that's even more on point than the argument sketch. I'm thinking of Holy

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-04-01 Thread Jeff Wright
I'm thinking of Holy Grail, where the questers ask the French, Who will join us in our quest for the Holy Grail? John Cleese, in his ridiculous French accent, leans over the castle wall and responds that they already have one, then bends down to his confreres and says, I told them we

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-04-01 Thread Tom Piwowar
Get with the program! the 20 iMac is much more practical... I spent the day working on several 24-inch iMacs. It was s nice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread mike
That's true, MS did stack the deck to artificially exclude apple..I mean she wanted a portable computer and Apple doesn't have one of those...she wanted a reasonable price, and we KNOW Apple doesn't have reasonable prices. Man how dishonest! Anyone needing a portable just buy an imac and lug

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Chris Dunford
You forgot to insist that it must be brown. What a silly, meaningless response this is. I have this image of Tom sitting at home being deliberately obtuse, seeing how much shit he can stir up on this list. It's really not worth it to play his games. I know. It has occurred to me more

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: She wanted a LAPTOP!!! Do you not understand that some people need a machine they can use in the classroom, or on a plane, or working from their hotel room when traveling. Surely you are not ignorant of the many

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Chris Dunford
The requirements were artificially contrived to exclude a very good and appropriate computer that Apple does make that competes with the 8-pound laptop. Right, the need to be able to take the machine with you is unbelievably artificial. How ridiculous. Nobody in the real world needs to take

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Now you are talking! :-) Stewart At 09:39 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: Yeah it is called chopped steak! Extra Value Meal? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Matthew Taylor
No - I am saying, as one with decades professionally in and out of academic environments, that the overwhelming majority of classroom settings are inhospitable to both the physical profile and battery life of a 17 inch laptop. A smaller laptop that will actually fit on a standard class

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Actually the better choice right now is the netbooks for classroom notes etc. They are light very portable and not a huge footprint. I was in Target the other day and they had a closeout on a Linux ASUS netbook for 212.00. Those truly are the portable choice right now. Download your stuff

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread mike
Maybe she needed a laptop today, not three years from now after scrimping and saving? Maybe she wanted one with at least some kind of warranty rather then a 4 year old mac that has nothing but duct tape and a wing and a prayer keeping it together. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Constance

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Chris Dunford
My point is that Lady Shopright COULD have had a Mac laptop, IF she hadn't wanted to pay a Wal-Mart discount price for a fancy, premium new machine. Which is pretty unrealistic--if she had done 5 minutes' worth of research on the Net, she would have known that. No need for even a pretend

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
That's true, MS did stack the deck to artificially exclude apple. Game Over. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
Well she could have a laptop running MAC OSX for under $1K. It would of course be a hackintosh. If she were happy with a netbook then she could just pull it off for under $500 including buying OSX.5. That M$ gets some money, Apple gets some money and MSI or dell or whoever gets some money.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Constance Warner
Not quite sure how I 'changed the facts'--everything I posted was factual. It's certainly true that you can get a Mac laptop for less than $1K, if you don't demand the latest fancy model, you don't want it instantly, and you're willing to do some research. It's all a matter of

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread mike
It's like a bad horror movie...just when you think it's over it comes back. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Well she could have a laptop running MAC OSX for under $1K. It would of course be a hackintosh. If she were happy with a netbook then she could

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread mike
Must be irritated horribly by all those Apple ads then. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: I'm not irritated by her personal choice; I just don't like the deceptive rhetoric and the silly attitudes of the commercial. It's true, the art of the

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
She wanted a LAPTOP!!! Why do you repeated tell her she can't have one? She did not buy a laptop. She bought a compact desktop that takes the form of a laptop, but it is not a laptop computer. It is too big, bulky, and heavy.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
Tom, read the subject line! I wrote that subject line. It belongs to me. It is the title of the commercial, not a reference to a type of computer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
Does any of this affect the truthiness of its basic point, that if you need a laptop with a decent size screen and you have only a thousand bucks, you're out of luck with Apple because they don't make one? Isn't that factually accurate? No it is nonesense. The big, bulky, heavy, blurry thing she

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread mike
I already defended you on this one. Tom is too small and frail to lift 8 pounds! It's not his fault he's built weak. (No one tell Tom that Apple sells a laptop that is only 1.2 pounds lighter) On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: She wanted a LAPTOP!!! Why do

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Steve at Verizon
Right, but your solution to the gal who wanted a laptop was an iMac which is not. Tom Piwowar wrote: Tom, read the subject line! I wrote that subject line. It belongs to me. It is the title of the commercial, not a reference to a type of computer.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
(No one tell Tom that Apple sells a laptop that is only 1.2 pounds lighter) I don't comsider that a laptop. It is actually a portable video production studio. That is what it is bought for. That is why it costs what it costs. It competes with alternatives selling upwards of $100,000. That Mac

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, this is funnier than Monty Python's old Ministry of Arguments sketch. No, it isn't! If only this thread would pine for the fjords. True story The Apple Genius told me that my Wife's 2cnd Generation Nano

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread katan
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:51:52 -0400, Chris Dunford wrote: I have this image of Tom sitting at home being deliberately obtuse, seeing how much shit he can stir up on this list. It's really not worth it to play his games. I know. It has occurred to me more than once that if this were anyplace

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread Jeff Wright
Seriously, this is funnier than Monty Python's old Ministry of Arguments sketch. No, it isn't! Yes, it is. Oh look, this isn't an argument. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-31 Thread rocky lee
Tom, Get with the program! the 20 iMac is much more practical... Rocky Date:Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:27:56 -0400 From:Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Subject: Re: Laptop Hunters (No one tell Tom that Apple sells a laptop that is only 1.2 pounds lighter) I don't comsider that a laptop. It

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Constance Warner
Well, if she started out her quest [for a laptop] with a set of inflexible requirements that the real world might not be able to meet--including parts of the real world like computer stores--she's limited her options and determined the outcome of her shopping trip before she's even

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Chris Dunford
Well, if she started out her quest [for a laptop] with a set of inflexible requirements that the real world might not be able to meet--including parts of the real world like computer stores--she's limited her options and determined the outcome of her shopping trip before she's even started.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Constance, wanting a laptop for under $1,000 is neither unreasonable nor impossible. The parts of the real world that are unable to meet her requirements are not computer stores but Apple stores. You are a victim of the Microsoft reality distortion field. We have already established that: 1)

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Constance Warner
I still say, that going shopping with preconceived notions and requirements is fundamentally unrealistic. The real world does not organize itself according to our wishes. If she's even thinking of buying a Mac [which from context it's clear that she's NOT] she needs to look at Macs

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Chris Dunford
For this class of computer Apple has a better idea and it is the 20-inch iMac. Jeff is right, this whole thing is too funny for words. The idea of carting a 20 iMac to class or Starbucks, along with the 20-foot orange extension cord required to plug it in somewhere, well, stop it, you're

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Constance Warner
If Lady Shopright has only $1K to buy a computer with, and economy is her SOLE AND MAJOR consideration, she can get a refurb Mac laptop for less--probably a 17 to boot. When making a purchasing decision, there is always a balancing of factors. If Lady Shopright insists on 17, laptop

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Constance Warner
Obviously I'm not saying that I or anyone else should have ZERO criteria when shopping. What I am saying is that if you demand EVERYTHING you want at a totally unrealistic price, you're going to be disappointed. And as for money is no object: my first Mac laptop, for which I waited MANY

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Steve at Verizon
Now you get the point of the commercial! She couldn't seriously consider a Mac, as there were zero options, given her budget and requirements. She obviously didn't know that, else why would she have traveled to the Apple Store. So she must have learned that fact there, hence the short visit.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Constance I am not sure how you shop but I shop with a budget and a list. I have a preconceived idea of what I need and want before I go shopping. Ever go to a grocery store without a list? How much do you spend without a list versus with a list. When I go shopping for a car I have a

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread mike
Again, changing the facts won't win your argument. She got what she wanted, for the price she wanted...just because your irritated it wasn't a mac doesn't mean she didn't. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: You don't have to be rich to afford a Mac.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Constance I can go to Wal-Marts site right now and buy a Dell Studio 17 laptop which is their latest model and available for under $1K. And yes I do know Dells and own three of them right now. I have found them to be virtually problem free. Stewart At 11:23 AM 3/30/2009, you wrote: You

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Matthew Taylor
Speaking only for myself I start with a list of: 1. What capabilities I need. 2. What capabilities I want. 3. What capabilities would be nice. Then I figure out what it costs to get first 1, then to add on 2, then to add on 3. Only at that point do I decide what I am willing to spend

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread mike
Rev...they aren't *macs*, they are crap...bottom feeder hardware..oh wait I mean scum sucking bottom feeder hardware. At least to our friends on the other side. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Constance I can go to Wal-Marts site right now

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
:-) Stewart At 02:19 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: Rev...they aren't *macs*, they are crap...bottom feeder hardware..oh wait I mean scum sucking bottom feeder hardware. At least to our friends on the other side. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Speaking only for myself I start with a list of: 1. What capabilities I need. 2. What capabilities I want. 3. What capabilities would be nice. That is exactly the point. You don't start off saying I need a laptop. You start with capabilities and needs. You say I need a small, light computer

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Constance I am not sure how you shop but I shop with a budget and a list. I have a preconceived idea of what I need and want before I go shopping. Ever go to a grocery store without a list? How much do you spend without a list versus with a list. Do you go shopping for a steak dinner with a

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Jeff Wright
Or you say I need a compact one-piece computer that won't clutter my house with computer hardware. For that need an 8-pound laptop may be just fine. The 20-inch iMac would also be fine. My point is that saying it must be a laptop makes as much sense as saying your MP3 player must be brown.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Now you get the point of the commercial! She couldn't seriously consider a Mac, as there were zero options, given her budget and requirements. Now you don't get the point. The requirements were artificially contrived to exclude a very good and appropriate computer that Apple does make that

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread b_s-wilk
Constance I am not sure how you shop but I shop with a budget and a list. I have a preconceived idea of what I need and want before I go shopping. Ever go to a grocery store without a list? How much do you spend without a list versus with a list. When I go shopping for a car I have a

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Constance, if she only has $1,000, she only has $1,000. 20-inch iMac is $999 at the Apple Online Store today. Right on the home page. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread DBCfour
Can walk into a store and buy it off the shelf? Donna In a message dated 3/30/2009 8:43:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, t...@tjpa.com writes: Constance, if she only has $1,000, she only has $1,000. 20-inch iMac is $999 at the Apple Online Store today. Right on the home page.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yeah it is called chopped steak! Stewart At 07:23 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: Constance I am not sure how you shop but I shop with a budget and a list. I have a preconceived idea of what I need and want before I go shopping. Ever go to a grocery store without a list? How much do you spend

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Chris Dunford
Constance, if she only has $1,000, she only has $1,000. 20-inch iMac is $999 at the Apple Online Store today. Right on the home page. You really just don't seem to get that you can't take your iMac to class or on a plane, do you? Is it THAT difficult a concept?

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread katan
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:05:09 -0400, Constance Warner wrote: Well, if she started out her quest [for a laptop] with a set of inflexible requirements that the real world might not be able to meet--including parts of the real world like computer stores--she's limited her options and determined

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Chris Dunford
Speaking only for myself I start with a list of: 1. What capabilities I need. 2. What capabilities I want. 3. What capabilities would be nice. That is exactly the point. You don't start off saying I need a laptop. You start with capabilities and needs. Yes, and if your needs include

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Matthew Taylor
On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Speaking only for myself I start with a list of: 1. What capabilities I need. 2. What capabilities I want. 3. What capabilities would be nice. That is exactly the point. You don't start off saying I need a laptop. You start with

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Steve at Verizon
Tom, read the subject line! Tom Piwowar wrote: Constance, if she only has $1,000, she only has $1,000. 20-inch iMac is $999 at the Apple Online Store today. Right on the home page. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread katan
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:46:08 -0400, Chris Dunford wrote: Please point out what solution to this set of needs Apple provides: You forgot to insist that it must be brown. What a silly, meaningless response this is. I have this image of Tom sitting at home being deliberately obtuse, seeing how

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Now, if Apple wants to run a commercial where someone is looking for a PC and is sold on the Mac's features and buys one. . .fine! It's really unrealistic to expect Microsoft to pay for an Apple commercial. I don't expect them to. I do expect them to make a better case for getting a PC. What is

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Can walk into a store and buy it off the shelf? Don't try this at Giant or Safeway. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
You really just don't seem to get that you can't take your iMac to class or on a plane, do you? Is it THAT difficult a concept? You really just don't seem to get that carrying around an 8-pound big and bulky is a misery. Even more miserable than using Vista.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Yeah it is called chopped steak! Extra Value Meal? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Please point out what solution to this set of needs Apple provides: You forgot to insist that it must be brown. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Steve at Verizon
She wanted a LAPTOP!!! Do you not understand that some people need a machine they can use in the classroom, or on a plane, or working from their hotel room when traveling. Surely you are not ignorant of the many reasons for the use of a laptop. Why do you repeated tell her she can't have

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-30 Thread Eric S. Sande
Constance, if she only has $1,000, she only has $1,000. Since Microsoft bought the computer for her she now has $1000 and a computer. This guy will GIVE her a 17 screen G4 Macbook. http://i.gizmodo.com/5187031/lauren-we-have-someone-whod-like-to-talk-to-you If she sells the one Microsoft

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread mike
We aren't going to debate the intelligence of actors are we? On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:03 PM, katan ka...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:09:57 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote: She wanted a Mac? In a *Microsoft* commercial? I believe the point of her going to an Apple store was to show

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Isn't that an Oxy Moron? Stewart At 01:38 AM 3/29/2009, you wrote: We aren't going to debate the intelligence of actors are we? On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:03 PM, katan ka...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:09:57 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote: She wanted a Mac? In a *Microsoft*

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
She wanted a Mac? In a *Microsoft* commercial? I believe the point of her going to an Apple store was to show that there isn't much choice there for less than $1K. She probably knew that going in. Then why did she go there? The buying habits of WFBs are mighty strange. If you want to buy

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread mike
No they go to AJ's and realize they can get the same crap for less at Safeway. On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: She wanted a Mac? In a *Microsoft* commercial? I believe the point of her going to an Apple store was to show that there isn't much choice there for

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread katan
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:53:18 -0400, Eric S. Sande wrote: ...without any real comment on the phenomena of the worlds largest software maker feeling the need to advertise a third party product (an HP computer I believe in this case) Product placement. Any Apple ad is about hardware, the box is

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread katan
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:26:12 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote: Perhaps you may have been hoodwinked? This shopper was an actress (a real one: member of the Screen Actors Guild http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12003603), not a real shopper. We will probably never know how much of the dialog was improv vs.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Chris Dunford
Safeway?? They should be going to Giant where it is cheaper still. And Wegman's is yet cheaper (and way better). Actually I get some food stuffs at Target which is half Giant. Yes, but it's difficult to find truffle butter at Target.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Chris Dunford ch...@covesoftware.comwrote: Safeway?? They should be going to Giant where it is cheaper still. And Wegman's is yet cheaper (and way better). Wegman's is hit or miss for me. If it is on sale it's cheaper but for many things it is more.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Fine. But they still wouldn't sell her what she wanted. A laptop with a 17' monitor for less than $1K She could have bought an iMac with a 20-inch screen for $1099 by flashing her college ID. That is so close that the difference is mere quibbling. And the Mac comes with a great suite of

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Jeff Wright
She could have bought an iMac with a 20-inch screen for $1099 by flashing her college ID. That is so close that the difference is mere quibbling. You seem to be confused Thomas, so let me help. A laptop (also known as a notebook) is a personal computer designed for mobile use small enough to

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread mike
Unbiased like...you? You *are* funny. Lugging around a 20 iMac would be great! Where is that handle?... On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Fine. But they still wouldn't sell her what she wanted. A laptop with a 17' monitor for less than $1K She could have

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread katan
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:37:28 -0400, Tom Piwowar wrote: She could have bought an iMac with a 20-inch screen for $1099 by flashing her college ID. That is so close that the difference is mere quibbling. And the Mac comes with a great suite of software that is an extra cost with the PC. A real

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Chris Dunford
Fine. But they still wouldn't sell her what she wanted. A laptop with a 17' monitor for less than $1K She could have bought an iMac with a 20-inch screen for $1099 by flashing her college ID. That is so close that the difference is mere quibbling. Just won't give up, eh? You seem to

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Unbiased like...you? You *are* funny. Here I sit with a Mac and a PC side by side like cats and dogs. I am highly proficient with both. Can you say the same? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
You've sold me! One thing though: What's the battery life on that? Let's be real here. Most laptops are never disconnected from the mains. This causes their batteries to rot so portable use is precluded. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread mike
Just because you don't move your portable doesn't mean no one does. I've got four close friends who live their lives from their laptops, 3 of them don't even have desktop units at home, the laptop goes everywhere. Two of those guys are mac guys. On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Tom Piwowar

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
A laptop (also known as a notebook) is a personal computer designed for mobile use small enough to sit on one's lap. And MP3 players must be brown. People buy PC laptops because PC desktops are so dorky. Apple provides MORE CHOICES. A different class of machine that is both cool and not

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Chris Dunford
A laptop (also known as a notebook) is a personal computer designed for mobile use small enough to sit on one's lap. And MP3 players must be brown. An unusually bizarre comment, even for you. You are saying that laptops do NOT have to be small enough to sit on one's lap? People buy PC laptops

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Just won't give up, eh? You seem to always omit one of her requirements, accidentally I am sure. She specified a laptop. Last I checked, iMac was a desktop. Not very convenient for carrying to her busboy classes at the community college. Next you'll have her running around town looking for an MP3

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread mike
And some people wonder why mac users are thought of as elitist snobs. On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Tell the truth. A real person would have bought the iMac with a much larger 20-inch screen and the software needed to get work done.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Chris Dunford
Tell the truth. A real person would have bought the iMac with a much larger 20-inch screen and the software needed to get work done. Tell the truth. You're unable to admit that real people might want or need a laptop because that would require you to finally answer the question, which you

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-29 Thread Jordan
I can't believe this has gone on so long. This was a dumb ad, based on the thinnest of premises, designed to lure the simplest of sheeple. katan wrote: She wanted a Mac? In a *Microsoft* commercial? I believe the point of her going to an Apple store was to show that there isn't much choice

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-28 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Ya got an url for those mythical beasts, cheapest mac I've seen around there was the 599 mac mini... On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Hey, guys. You don't need to exaggerate to make your

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-28 Thread mike
Ah, he said new...spose those are the 'new' old models. On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 6:04 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Ya got an url for those mythical beasts, cheapest mac I've seen around there was the 599

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:45 PM, betty b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: I looked at the video. Lauren didn't go into the Apple Store at all. She walked to the door, turned around and walked away. Same guy is walking past in both scenes. An astute observation. You are absolutely correct. The ad

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-28 Thread mike
She's an actress...it's...um...fake. It's not real. It's just an advert :) It's kinda like justin long isn't *really* a mac...he's actually a human being POSING as a mac. On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 6:47 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:45 PM, betty

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-28 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, he said new...spose those are the 'new' old models. Well new to him. The refurbs are even cheaper. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o)

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-28 Thread mike
I could see maybe getting one if it was 250 or 299... On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:33 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, he said new...spose those are the 'new' old models. Well new to him. The refurbs are

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Dunford
An astute observation. You are absolutely correct. The ad agency did some editing to make it appear as though she entered the store, but failed to notice that in their attempt to deceive the viewer, they deceived themselves instead. For heavens' sake, everyone, this isn't a documentary,

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Dunford
Ah, he said new...spose those are the 'new' old models. Well new to him. The refurbs are even cheaper. But irrelevant to the ads, of course, as all must agree. A Mac Mini is not a big screen laptop. Lauren can't haul it back and forth to her busboy classes at the community college.

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:14 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: She's an actress...it's...um...fake.  It's not real.  It's just an advert :)  It's kinda like justin long isn't *really* a mac...he's actually a human being POSING as a mac. Well, in the ad she says she went into the store and

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters

2009-03-28 Thread mike
Blah...the bald guy was just wandering around out front...took me about 22 seconds last time I was in an apple store to see I didn't want to spend 2k on a laptop...and literally another 1.2 minutes to buy my new ipod nano. On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:55 AM, phartz...@gmail.com

Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters - and Silverlight

2009-03-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
How is Silverlight BETTER than Flash or MPEG that both work on almost all computers? It's from Microsoft (I thought you knew that). That makes it is obviously better. It is also better because it won't have all the incompatability problems that the other products will soon have.

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