Re: [CGUYS] Memory question...fixed?

2007-08-13 Thread Tom Piwowar
>I found a program that I had installed a long time ago but decided I >didn't want to pay for it so left it when it's trial ended unpaid for. Hooray. This is a classic cause of hard to find computer problems. * ==> QUICK

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question...fixed?

2007-08-12 Thread Paula Minor
A short update on my OSX shutting down (NOT the computer but the OS). After many attempts to figure out what was happening over night that caused this to occur every night, I found a program that I had installed a long time ago but decided I didn't want to pay for it so left it when it's t

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread b_s-wilk
Re: Memory question.Tom? But, would the flash things running overnight on a Mozilla type browser cause OSX to close? Looks like there may be more than one thing amiss. Need to clear things out to get a better picture of what is causeing your CPU problem. This shutting down of OSX is ha

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>This shutting down of OSX is happening EVERY night now but doesn't >occur when I leave the same things running all day. Again this a.m. >I had the transparent box telling me OSX had shut down and to turn >off the computer. I don't know of anything that I've set to run over >night. Do any

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Where do I find the logs? Run Console from the Utilities menu. Click on the "Logs" icon in the toolbar. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMA

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread Jordman
0pen a Finder window and search for logs. There are some in Mac HD/Library/Logs and others in (your name)/Library/Logs Paula Minor wrote: Have you checked your logs to see what time it's doing it? Same time every night? What programs are running, any errors before it shuts down in the log?

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread Paula Minor
Have you checked your logs to see what time it's doing it? Same time every night? What programs are running, any errors before it shuts down in the log? Where do I find the logs? Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question...Betty

2007-08-08 Thread Jordman
At this point I would start by letting it run all night with NO applications running. If it still has problems , then you've eliminated a lot of questions. If it did still have problems, I'd install OS X on an external HD and see how that runs. I have a little partition on a Firewire HD just in

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread mike
Have you checked your logs to see what time it's doing it? Same time every night? What programs are running, any errors before it shuts down in the log? Mike On 8/8/07, Paula Minor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> But, would the flash things running overnight on a Mozilla type > >> browser cau

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question...Betty

2007-08-08 Thread Paula Minor
Have you tried to run X on another account? As admin, you'll be able to use your files. Does the second account crash? Which maintenance utilities have you used? I've fou No I haven't tried that Betty. I will make a new account and see what happens. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journ

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question.....Tom?

2007-08-08 Thread Paula Minor
But, would the flash things running overnight on a Mozilla type browser cause OSX to close? Looks like there may be more than one thing amiss. Need to clear things out to get a better picture of what is causeing your CPU problem. This shutting down of OSX is happening EVERY night now but do

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-08 Thread Jordman
As stated earlier in this thread, it's a huge CPU hog, among other things. Turn on a CPU monitor and then go to a web page that has it and watch you computer work, hard. Judy Cosler wrote: er, what's the problem with Flash? **

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-08 Thread Judy Cosler
er, what's the problem with Flash? John DeCarlo wrote: On 8/6/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is a Firefox plug-in to control the execution of Flash. Tools > Add-ons > Extensions > Get Extensions etc. The big culprit is Flash. I hate it where web sites use Flash when

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-07 Thread b_s-wilk
But, would the flash things running overnight on a Mozilla type browser cause OSX to close? Mozilla's browsers have had a memory leak bug on and off for a long time. The leak can cause the browser to crash, but I haven't seen it crash OS X. [Mozilla doesn't install anything in root.] Running F

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
>But, would the flash things running overnight on a Mozilla type >browser cause OSX to close? Looks like there may be more than one thing amiss. Need to clear things out to get a better picture of what is causeing your CPU problem. *

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-06 Thread Paula Minor
Today I downloaded a version of Flashblock that finally works with SeaMonkey. I've used Flashblock with Firefox for ages, but it's not my primary browser. Best thing is that it worked immediately-- before quitting and restarting the program! [I'd better back it up before it breaks] Happy

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-06 Thread b_s-wilk
Today I downloaded a version of Flashblock that finally works with SeaMonkey. I've used Flashblock with Firefox for ages, but it's not my primary browser. Best thing is that it worked immediately--before quitting and restarting the program! [I'd better back it up before it breaks] Happy Happ

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-06 Thread Paula Minor
Woke up this a.m. to find OSX had quit again. It seems to happen every night now. I don't have any backups running then. I do set the computer to sleep after about 1/2 hr. I did forget to restart it in safemode when I went to bed. Right now, with only mail running the CPU is running betwe

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-06 Thread John DeCarlo
On 8/6/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a Firefox plug-in to control the execution of Flash. Tools > > Add-ons > Extensions > Get Extensions etc. > > >The big culprit is Flash. I hate it where web sites use Flash when HTML > >or any other video works better--and there's no al

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
There is a Firefox plug-in to control the execution of Flash. Tools > Add-ons > Extensions > Get Extensions etc. >The big culprit is Flash. I hate it where web sites use Flash when HTML >or any other video works better--and there's no alternate path. Might not be >Paula's problem, but I've had tr

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
>I'm maxed on RAM with 2.5 gb. I don't really understand how Mac >handles ram tho. It always looks like I'm almost out of it and am >using a lot of "virtual" rameven when I'm not running much. Do you have a PPC or an Intel Mac? If it is an Intel Mac you should check in Activity Monitor

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
>But I've been watching the monitor and am >baffled by one thing. When it shows, say User29%, System 14%, when I >look up at the individual processes, they don't seem to add up to >that much. Is the menu at the top of the window set to show you all processes or just your processes? *

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-05 Thread b_s-wilk
It seems you have no shortage of good advice here but: If I were you I'd look closer at each CPU hog and see what it's doing or if there are settings you could change to stop this behavior. For example, there are certainly setting in Camino you could alter, but I'd start by closing one tab at a

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-05 Thread Paula Minor
If I were you I'd look closer at each CPU hog and see what it's doing or if there are settings you could change to stop this behavior. For example, there are certainly setting in Camino you could alter, but I'd start by closing o Thanks, Jordman. I've dumped Camino as it seemed to have a r

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-05 Thread Paula Minor
Paula, lose the widgets. Set up a larger swap file for Photoshop. Mine's on a separate drive [it's in the prefs somewhere; in my ps you can select up to 4 swap disks]. Does Camino have a memory leak like other Moz browsers? I use some beta versions just so I can have a debug menu. Can you a

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-05 Thread Jordman
It seems you have no shortage of good advice here but: If I were you I'd look closer at each CPU hog and see what it's doing or if there are settings you could change to stop this behavior. For example, there are certainly setting in Camino you could alter, but I'd start by closing one tab at a

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-04 Thread b_s-wilk
Well that explains the high load. Maybe you should try your streaming with iTunes? >Also have Photoshop CS2 with 2 photos open and iTunes. PS is a memory hog. How big are the photos? If big then you should follow Adobe's instructions on memory management. >And all of my widgets are runnin

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-04 Thread Stephen Brownfield
What I was thinking about was OS X 10.4.10 Update v1.1 Tom Piwowar wrote: I thought that X.4.11 is only for the intell Macs. It is not out yet, so you should not be thinking anything yet. * ==> QUIC

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-04 Thread Tom Piwowar
>I left it open overnight with Lightroom with several hundred >thumbnails open in the library, Photoshop CS2 with 2 large photo >files open, mail, Camino with 8 tabs, Palm Desktop,(thought it might >be the problem) , system preferences, dashboard with several widgets >and iTunes all running

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-04 Thread Paula Minor
Now I'm starting to think you are pulling my leg. Do you routinely drive your car through ditches and then complain about the rough ride? I'm chuckling here. I do run my truck thru ditches from time to time but I don't complain. I do expect it to perform as it was intended. ;-) Yes, I ex

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-04 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Well, initially it wouldn't start up in safe mode. It hung at the >white screen with the apple logo and the spinning dial. So I shut it >down after about 5 mins and started again. It took almost 5 min. but >did finally start up. At that point it was doing a disk repair and it lools like

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-03 Thread Paula Minor
What happens when you run from a safe boot (Shift key down on Mac's startup)? Well, initially it wouldn't start up in safe mode. It hung at the white screen with the apple logo and the spinning dial. So I shut it down after about 5 mins and started again. It took almost 5 min. but did

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-03 Thread Tom Piwowar
> I thought that X.4.11 is only for the intell Macs. It is not out yet, so you should not be thinking anything yet. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-03 Thread Stephen Brownfield
Tom, I thought that X.4.11 is only for the intell Macs. Tom Piwowar wrote: My iMac G5 iSite has been having frequent "blue screen" equivalents.the transparent gray box that tells me OSX has quit and I have to shut down. Is there any info in panic.log? Did you update to X.4

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-03 Thread Tom Piwowar
>It's almost always Camino with the the most CPU usage and that's >generally after it's been running for a few days. You should not leave anything running for a few days. Errors accumulate. Mail and Camino should not be using 61% of a fast new Mac. On my much slower 800MHz Mac I'm running Fire

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-02 Thread Paula Minor
Is there any info in panic.log? Ummm, I don't know. Not sure I'd understand it even if I saw it. Did you update to X.4.10? If yes you'll have to hope that X.4.11 fixes it. What I read about X.4.11 suggests that it is largely intended to fix the bugs in X.4.10. Not Apple's proudest hour. I'

Re: [CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-02 Thread Tom Piwowar
>My iMac G5 iSite has been having frequent "blue screen" >equivalents.the transparent gray box that tells me OSX has quit >and I have to shut down. Is there any info in panic.log? Did you update to X.4.10? If yes you'll have to hope that X.4.11 fixes it. What I read about X.4.11 suggests

[CGUYS] Memory question

2007-08-02 Thread Paula Minor
My iMac G5 iSite has been having frequent "blue screen" equivalents.the transparent gray box that tells me OSX has quit and I have to shut down. I thought I had found the problem when I unplugged 2 of the 4 external hd's I have on it. But I got up this a.m. to a new "error" msg. Inst