I started in college 1979 and they changed to SSNs a couple of years later.
I would hope they have changed back since then. I knew it was a bad idea
then.
VA has changed drivers license numbers to it's own number. I had a clinic
ask for my SSN last week.
OK, so it was a while ago--I
Reverend, I understand the Social Security Number's role in employment
and taxes (the real reason banks started requiring it years ago).
However, I cannot understand why people kowtow to consumer products
companies to initiate service contract and to buy things such as a cell
phone. That is
Do I like it?
Heavens no. But it has become an ID# never the less.
Even the US government has not stopped it's use for this.
Stewart
At 05:50 AM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
Reverend, I understand the Social Security Number's role in employment
and taxes (the real reason banks started requiring
I agree it has become an ID number. I always have laughed, though,
because when I was younger the Social Security card used to state on it
that it was NOT to be used as an ID.
Steve
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Do I like it?
Heavens no. But it has become an ID# never the less.
Same here.
However I knew in the military it was our ID#. It was required when
you wrote a check at the PX or the comisary.
When you got food the sign in sheet asked for your last 4.
When you fill out a credit app. your SS# has to be on it.
It has become a defacto federal ID card.
In some
It has become a defacto federal ID card.
Well, a little nitpicky, but not so much ID card as ID number. I've -never-
been asked to provide the actual card as an ID. (I lost mine decades ago and
have never bothered to replace it--have
never needed it.)
Recently for Military service and other things we have been asked for
the actual SS card, not a copy or a duplicate.
If you were to change jobs they might ask for the original SS card.
I know we get hung up on the number but the SS administration will
tell you it is an official US document.
In a digital society, where the SS card is now mandatory at birth...id card
and id number still have the same effect as a national id.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote:
It has become a defacto federal ID card.
Well, a little nitpicky, but not so much ID
you need original SS card to get driver's license in NC. I just moved here
hope I can find it!
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote:
It has become a defacto federal ID card.
Well, a little nitpicky, but not so much ID card as ID number. I've
-never- been
I know when we moved from TN to AL we had to show that. Apparently
the DL Dbases have been hacked enough that they do not simply accept
a DL from another state. They want documented proof that you are who
you say you are.
Our one daughter had to bring her Graduation Diploma from HS in order
You (all) are referring to things that derived from Real ID efforts
from the GWB administration for drivers' licenses - supposedly an old
dog-eared piece of paper, like a SSN card proves who you are because
they government ID documents.
In reality, all these new databases springing up with SSN
SS#s for Bank accounts have been around much longer.
The Drivers License bit was in 2003 when I moved from TN to AL.
Stewart
At 11:55 AM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
You (all) are referring to things that derived from Real ID efforts
from the GWB administration for drivers' licenses - supposedly an
SS#s for Bank accounts have been around much longer.
The Drivers License bit was in 2003 when I moved from TN to AL.
The driver's license for opening bank accounts is required by the USA PATRIOT
Act, which was cleverly named so as to make opposing it appear treasonous.
(I've always wondered
On Jun 22, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
The SS# has taken on a very big significance in the life of a
person who lives and works in the USA.
That's right. Otherwise the country is going to be over run with
furriners.
M$ doesn't want your SSN, they want you to show your
I really do not worry about furriners seeing as though I am married
to one of them.
Stewart
At 03:08 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
That's right. Otherwise the country is going to be over run with
furriners.
M$ doesn't want your SSN, they want you to show your M$ Passport.
That is much better.
I really do not worry about furriners seeing as though I am married
to one of them.
I used to be married to one of them Canadians too. She told me that they didn't
count as furriners because they speak English, sort of, and their only agenda
was finding enough Molson's, eh?
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote:
When I started college they issued us an ID number which was sort of
alphabetical derived. About halfway through they changed the ID number
to
our SSN
Out of curiosity, how long ago was this? A lot of organizations
According to Slashdot's article here
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/06/21/2359255/SSN-Required-To-Buy-Palm
-Pre you cannot open a Sprint account and buy a Palm Pre without
telling Sprint your Social Security number (ostensibly so they can run a
credit check).
Anybody willing to do that for a
I wasn't aware there WASN'T a carrier who didn't want the SSN.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote:
According to Slashdot's article here
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/06/21/2359255/SSN-Required-To-Buy-Palm
:
From: Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com
Subject: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 11:14 AM
According to Slashdot's article here
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/06/21/2359255/SSN-Required-To-Buy-Palm
-Pre you
, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com
Subject: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 11:14 AM
According to Slashdot's article here
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/06/21/2359255/SSN-Required-To-Buy-Palm
-Prehttp
-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Sent: 06/22/2009 12:15 PM
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Subject: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre
According to Slashdot's article here
http
info they don't really need.
--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote:
From: Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com
Subject: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 11:14 AM
According
It's a deal killer. It's an inappropriate use of a form of govt id which
was intended for the SS
admin, not the convenience of Sprint. A private biz cannot require you to
divulge your ssn.
They can't require it, but they can sure turn you down if you refuse. Any bank
would laugh you out
adjuvancy
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From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com]
On Behalf Of Rev. Stewart Marshall
Sent: 06/22/2009 1:02 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre
They always ask me
It is required to open a bank account as they have to check with a
clearing house to see if you are safe.
To get a job they must check your immigration status (I-9) and
possibly if you are foreign sounding run your SS number to see if you
are eligible for employment.
There are SS #s that
One Man
It's a deal killer. It's an inappropriate use of a form
of govt id which was intended for the SS admin, not the
convenience of Sprint. A private biz cannot require you
to divulge your ssn.
My power company demanded my SSN to pay my bill!
--
Take care | This clown speaks for
- IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com
Subject: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 11:14 AM
According to Slashdot's article here
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/06/21/2359255/SSN-Required-To-Buy-Palm
-Pre you cannot open
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
Government ID that the government has allowed to be turned into the one
stop
national credit ID.
When I started college they issued us an ID number which was sort of
alphabetical derived. About halfway through they changed the
When I started college they issued us an ID number which was sort of
alphabetical derived. About halfway through they changed the ID number to
our SSN
Out of curiosity, how long ago was this? A lot of organizations that at one
time used SSNs for IDs have stopped doing so. My Blue Cross ID,
Um, you are legally required to carry a dl while driving.
Also, why would showing your license be any different then letting them keep
the license while you test the car?
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