Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-28 Thread Larry Sacks
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P. Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:56 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] over shooting The digital shutter lag is something I was never able to overcome. By the time the camera had figured out that it was taking a picture, the moment was over

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-28 Thread chad evans wyatt
Dunno, but some may find it interesting that my D200's shutters lag behind my F5's. The specs say the lag is tiny, but occasionally not swift enough to beat an eyeblink. YRMV * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-28 Thread Richard P.
I was referring to point-and-shoot digital cameras that have the lag. It's good to know that DSLR's don't have this issue, but until their price gets down to a more reasonable level, I'll have to wait. Thanks for the clarification. Richard P. Are we talking DSLR's or point and shoot

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Oh yeah I have taken great shots I used to take photos of all my weddings and occasionally I had better pictures than the wedding photographer (Only occasionally) However I would not want to put up all my work against the pros. Oh and Pros usually take quite a few photos before they choose

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-27 Thread chad evans wyatt
Hmm, why am I made nervous in Rev Marshall's response? Great photographers in history have often been well-heeled amateurs (as was Cartier-Bresson himself, initially). When asked to judge camera club images, I'm constantly impressed with some results I see. Likewise, lots of pros make utterly

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-27 Thread Steve Rigby
On May 27, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Oh and Pros usually take quite a few photos before they choose the right one. The ability to take many shots virtually without or at very little financial cost is probably the greatest advantage that digital has over film, yet

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-26 Thread Tom Piwowar
Anyway, I have no need to defend myself, so I'm out. Steve, do let us know how you ultimately solve the problem. It would be a good thing to know. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-26 Thread Tom Piwowar
What respects are those? Are you saying, that given equal lenses, a charge coupled detector of fixed bandwidth is an equal recording instrument compared to film? More pics at essentially zero cost. A good digital camera will have better resolution than 35mm film. Film has grain, digital

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-26 Thread Steve Rigby
On May 26, 2008, at 7:03 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Film has grain, digital doesn't. Digital does have noise, which in many ways is the digital version of grain. Digital camera noise is highly consistent from pic to pic. Software can profile it and remove it. Not so for film grain.

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-26 Thread Steve Rigby
On May 26, 2008, at 7:08 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: At any rate, the CD can be viewed on virtually any computer without problems, and if a recipient has a DVD player that they want to view the images on, I can only hope it works 100% for them. You should include a ReadMe file about what you have

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-26 Thread Steve Rigby
On May 25, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Tony B wrote: Point taken. But really, when one has to prepare an answer based on virtually NO information, it's tough to be real 'polite'. The re-phrasing you wrote is only with benefit of the list having dragged _some few_ details out of the OP. Others here

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-26 Thread Steve Rigby
On May 26, 2008, at 4:16 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: What respects are those? Are you saying, that given equal lenses, a charge coupled detector of fixed bandwidth is an equal recording instrument compared to film? More pics at essentially zero cost. I can agree with this for the most part.

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-26 Thread rocky lee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Av6gCq_awQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKK9-HEDa8INR=1 Using the same lens will you be able to produce a recorded image of equal or better quality using a digital camera instead of film? With equal a full frame digital (36mm) and 35 mm film frame, I'd say

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-26 Thread Steve Rigby
On May 26, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Steve, do let us know how you ultimately solve the problem. It would be a good thing to know. Apparently the only 'problem' I had was with one person who replied to my initial query, and my DVD player. My DVD player seems to only want

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-26 Thread b_s-wilk
Tony, if you admittedly don't know anything about the subject, why bother to reply, especially in a condescending and somewhat hostile manner. You may have only 25 out of 375 photos that are worth looking at, but others may have 400+ photos that are 80-100% of interest to target viewers. I

[CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-25 Thread Tony B
Sorry, but I'm seeing this all the time these days. People are no longer constrained by expensive film, so they're shooting 10X the pictures they need. Nothing wrong with that. But modern audiences bore quickly. If you can't tell your story with a 5 minute presentation, you're going to lose them.

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-25 Thread Steve Rigby
On May 25, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Tony B wrote: Sorry, but I'm seeing this all the time these days. People are no longer constrained by expensive film, so they're shooting 10X the pictures they need. Nothing wrong with that. But modern audiences bore quickly. If you can't tell your story with a 5

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Sorry, but I'm seeing this all the time these days. People are no longer constrained by expensive film, so they're shooting 10X the pictures they need. Nothing wrong with that. And they should be overshooting. Overshooting is the best way to get around the problem of someone closing their eyes

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-25 Thread mike
Or the thousands surprises that can really make a great photo. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Just make sure you toss the bad ones. Mike On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or the 1000s of other surprises that can ruin a great photo.

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-25 Thread Eric S. Sande
Or the thousands surprises that can really make a great photo. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Just make sure you toss the bad ones. Back in the day we had contact sheets. This was a method, sure. Digital photography is finally getting up to 35mm qualty. That's good. I agree, shoot lots and toss the

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-25 Thread Tom Piwowar
Digital photography is finally getting up to 35mm qualty. That's good. Actually exceeds 35mm in some respects. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map,

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-25 Thread John DeCarlo
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Tony B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but I'm seeing this all the time these days. Tony, Your normal answer to people is to tell them that they are doing something wrong, they should do something different. I agree that there are times where people think

Re: [CGUYS] over shooting

2008-05-25 Thread Tony B
Point taken. But really, when one has to prepare an answer based on virtually NO information, it's tough to be real 'polite'. The re-phrasing you wrote is only with benefit of the list having dragged _some few_ details out of the OP. In fact, at this point we all know he's probably going about it