Eric Fernandez wrote:
If you remaster CD1, actually there are three big issues :
- the LG drives problem
- the updates
- the default installed applications.
In KDE, a new install has very few applications installed. It was a
nice idea to split the kde packages for space reason. What is not nice
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guran wrote:
| fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 14.09 skrev Jan Ciger:
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|>There is no logic to understand - these are bugs which slipped through
|>the QA process or just weren't fixed. I think the screensavers issue was
|>reported before release, as well
fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 14.09 skrev Jan Ciger:
> There is no logic to understand - these are bugs which slipped through
> the QA process or just weren't fixed. I think the screensavers issue was
> reported before release, as well as the "empty" KDE. Why it wasn't
> fixed, I do not know.
>
> J
Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 17:01, Buchan Milne a écrit :
> But, I don't think anyone on this list qualifies as a newbie.
Sure, but i'm on a forum where you have many newbies and I can see what
they do and their habits ... a strange this the newbie ;)
> People on
> this list should be testing at l
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guran wrote:
| fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 11.46 skrev Eric Fernandez:
| I can understand that, but what I am missing is the possibility to have a
| choice of installed packages. When Mdk has decided to decrease KDE
packages
| and install Gnome stuff,
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guran wrote:
| fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 09.58 skrev Eric Fernandez:
Guran, no need to flame, no conspiracy here.
| What is the necessity for this design of very few KDE packages?
| How can a newbie be helped in learning to understand Linux by cutti
fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 11.46 skrev Eric Fernandez:
> guran wrote:
> >What is the necessity for this design of very few KDE packages?
> >How can a newbie be helped in learning to understand Linux by cutting it
> > into a forced search for missing packages? Is it a political decission
> > again
guran wrote:
What is the necessity for this design of very few KDE packages?
How can a newbie be helped in learning to understand Linux by cutting it into
a forced search for missing packages? Is it a political decission against qt?
In reviews of KDE the journalists very often like the many wa
fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 09.58 skrev Eric Fernandez:
> If you remaster CD1, actually there are three big issues :
> - the LG drives problem
> - the updates
> - the default installed applications.
> In KDE, a new install has very few applications installed. It was a nice
> idea to split the kde
If you remaster CD1, actually there are three big issues :
- the LG drives problem
- the updates
- the default installed applications.
In KDE, a new install has very few applications installed. It was a nice
idea to split the kde packages for space reason. What is not nice is
that KDE seems compl
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 18:29, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Well, yeah. That's the problem. OO.o is far less complicated than a full
> distro...yet even THEY think five release candidates are necessary. MDK
> is far more complex than OO.o, yet we seem to think it's okay to get by
> on two release candida
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:32, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
> OOo did five RC which were truely Release Candidate.
> However OOo is far less complicated as a full distro.
Well, yeah. That's the problem. OO.o is far less complicated than a full
distro...yet even THEY think five release candidates are nec
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FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
> Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 10:25, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
>
>>And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the
>>beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release...
>
>
> excuse me, but most people wil
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:17 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> > Thanks guys for all your hard work. If you need help troubleshooting
> > the scsi problems I have three downed servers that I can test on.
>
> could you fill in a bug report with oops message if possible or any
> error message availla
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:41 am, Brad Felmey wrote:
> I _do_ support a site full of workstations. It's amazing what cron and a
> squid cache will do.
or a local repository in my case. Download once and have it available for
everybody.
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I think that we need a lot more RCs, and on the contrary they should be more
frequent, a lot more frequent. Updating a cooker machine is not the same
than installing the distribution from scratch, considering the updating
scripts do not have the same effects.
For example, there should be 1 RC per 1
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 02:58, David Coe wrote:
> If I had just installed a site-full of Mandrake 9.2 workstations, I
> would be less than impressed to have this size of update to do so soon
> after.
I _do_ support a site full of workstations. It's amazing what cron and a
squid cache will do.
--
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:17 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Yes this is true also I should file a bug report for the scsi being
> > broke in the kernel. I have three machines with two different kinds
> > of scsi cards. All of them crash trying to fo
Pierre Jarillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING
> > > the beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final
> > > release...
> >
> > excuse me, but most people will test during RC period, but the
> > problem was you release ... h
Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes this is true also I should file a bug report for the scsi being
> broke in the kernel. I have three machines with two different kinds
> of scsi cards. All of them crash trying to format the hard
> drives. So I know this is not isolated in my case. I
Le Jeudi 23 Octobre 2003 16:13, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit :
> Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 10:25, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
> > And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the
> > beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release...
>
> excuse me, but most people will test durin
On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:31 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> actually mdk9.2 was quite better than previous releases regarding
> quality.
yes indeed as a user since 5.3 I have seen huge improvements in 9.2 but then
the whole 9.x series has for the most part been great. Really those out there
w
Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 10:25, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
> And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the
> beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release...
excuse me, but most people will test during RC period, but the problem
was you release ... how many ... 2 RC
Simon Oosthoek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Since 9.x, we are now providing ALSO providing updates for
> > bugfixes..
>
> That's very much appreciated!
>
> > But maybe we should go back and drop all non-security fixes
> > updates ?
>
> please no! But having bugfixes in updates should not be
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Steinar Hauge wrote:
> No, you should continue to provide bug fixes and updates as well!! :-)
> Thats one of the reasons why I am a club member.
>
> But what you should consider, is to use a little bit longer time and have a
> RC3 cykle also. It is a pity that MDK has got a re
torsdag 23. oktober 2003, 12:25, skrev Frederic Crozat:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:03:28 +0200, Galileo wrote:
> > Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
> > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:0
> >20 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 12:25:03PM +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:03:28 +0200, Galileo wrote:
>
> > Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
> > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
> > More that 250 MB of updates excl
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:03:28 +0200, Galileo wrote:
> Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
> http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
> More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
> happen ?
> It looks like x.2 doesn't m
On Thursday 23 October 2003 08:34, Udo Rader wrote:
> Am Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:03:28 + schrieb Galileo:
> > Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
> > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:0
> >20 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. Ho
Brad Felmey wrote:
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote:
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
happen ?
It looks like x.2 doesn't
Am Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:03:28 + schrieb Galileo:
> Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
> http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
> More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
> happen ?
> It looks like x.2 doesn't
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 08:46:36PM -0500, Brad Felmey wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote:
> > Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
> > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
> > More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. H
On Thursday 23 October 2003 02:46, Brad Felmey wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote:
> > Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
> > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:0
> >20 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote:
> Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
> http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
> More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
> happen ?
> It looks like x.2 doesn't mean a th
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
happen ?
It looks like x.2 doesn't mean a thing anymore. 7.2 and 8.2 were
perfect. Why isn't so wi
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