Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-24 Thread Digital Wokan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ef2 == ef2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ef2 If you want that more people test the beta versions, you need to consider ef2 the human psychology : the more the figure will be big, the more people will ef2 want to try the distribution. I even suggested after 9.1 to lie about

[Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Juan Quintela
john == John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi john What is needed is a committed (and known) BETA, RC john testers. Each one committed to testing a know set of john functionality (hardware software), and regression issues. But that things are already fixed in the Betas RC. Problem is

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 01:40:54PM +0200, Juan Quintela wrote: john == John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi john What is needed is a committed (and known) BETA, RC john testers. Each one committed to testing a know set of john functionality (hardware software), and regression

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Dave Cotton
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:59, Simon Oosthoek wrote: Why doesn't mandrake try to figure out WHY less people are testing cooker than they'd like instead of blindly blaming people that THEY don't test enough so therefore mandrake is buggy Mandrake is the one trying to make money doing

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Pascal Cavy
Le Jeudi 23 Octobre 2003 14:12, Dave Cotton a écrit : On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:59, Simon Oosthoek wrote: Why doesn't mandrake try to figure out WHY less people are testing cooker than they'd like instead of blindly blaming people that THEY don't test enough so therefore mandrake is

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Jos Hulzink
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Simon Oosthoek wrote: Problem is that majority of the people don't test until the last RC or Final :( Bugs reported during cooker Betas are normally fixed. Well, to me the only test I'm interested in doing is a complete install from iso images (on CDRW disks), this

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread John Allen
On Thursday 23 October 2003 12:40, Juan Quintela wrote: john == John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi john What is needed is a committed (and known) BETA, RC john testers. Each one committed to testing a know set of john functionality (hardware software), and regression issues. But

[Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Juan Quintela
ef2 == ef2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi ef2 I think that we need a lot more RCs, and on the contrary they should be more ef2 frequent, a lot more frequent. Updating a cooker machine is not the same ef2 than installing the distribution from scratch, considering the updating ef2 scripts do not

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread bgmilne
ef2 == ef2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ef2 If you want that more people test the beta versions, you need to consider ef2 the human psychology : the more the figure will be big, the more people will ef2 want to try the distribution. I even suggested after 9.1 to lie about the ef2 actual

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | And then what do you do for the next release? Start at RC3, up to RC5? | | The only solution is to make people who are going to report bugs do it by | RC1 at the latest. | | Maybe there should be a policy on bugs ... bugzilla

Re: [Cooker] Re: Huge List of Updates

2003-10-23 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:04 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe there should be a policy on bugs ... bugzilla should not allow new bug submissions from when RC2 is released ;-). This would be great if there were no new bugs introduced in the rc's, but as 9.2 clearly made plain, new bugs