Re: sponsor logo on home of CPAN mirror

2018-01-01 Thread Graham Barr
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 07:25, Henk P. Penning wrote: > > > I don't see how such a change can be kept local ; > how can it /not/ propagate to downstream mirrors? If the JSON file was named using the mirror hostname then index.html can extract the name from the URL and it wouldn’t matter if the

Re: OSD

2000-07-27 Thread Graham Barr
On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 12:35:39PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > While I'm thinking about it I thought I'd post the URL for the OSD spec. > > http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-OSD > > While reading it two things were in question; how will it fit into the > CPAN This is TBD. But what I could see i

Re: OSD

2000-07-27 Thread Graham Barr
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:46:13PM +0900, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 11:15:03PM +0300, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 12:35:39PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > > > While I'm thinking about it I thought I'd post the URL for the OSD spec. > > > > > > ht

Re: OSD

2000-07-30 Thread Graham Barr
On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 10:19:36AM +0200, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:13:59 +0100, Graham Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 12:35:39PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > >> While I'm think

Re: OSD

2000-07-30 Thread Graham Barr
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:32:57PM +0200, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: > Let me withdraw what I said. I think, it's OK as you suggest. But we > should offer the user the option to not filling in anything into any > file except into the Makefile.PL and leaving all the work to > MakeMaker. That way we w

Re: OSD

2000-08-02 Thread Graham Barr
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 04:59:42PM -0400, Chris Nandor wrote: > At 14:50 -0500 2000.08.01, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > >What else would people like to see besides author, email, name, version, > >url, signature, dependancies??? > > What about binary distributions? The OSD supports this. THi

Re: OSD

2000-08-02 Thread Graham Barr
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:50:19PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > Andreas J. Koenig [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: > *>- a signature > *>- a list of namespaces used within the files that are being installed > *> by this distribution > *>- a list of version numbers list of version numbers ? Do y

Re: OSD

2000-08-02 Thread Graham Barr
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:07:47PM +0200, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:50:19 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elaine M. Ashton) >said: > > > Andreas J. Koenig [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: > > *> > > *>I'm not arguing for changing the format but to optimize it for what we > >

Re: OSD

2000-08-02 Thread Graham Barr
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 05:06:17PM +0200, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: > A signature by PAUSE is an interesting idea. But it would tell the > user something different than a signature by a person. While I imagine > that a sig by GBARR would mean something like: "I have written or at > least doublechec

Re: OSD

2000-08-02 Thread Graham Barr
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:47:09PM +0200, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: > > The AUTHOR field is not related to the signature. Actually I would always > > consider LArry as the author of perl, so I would expectLarry to appear > > as the AUTHOR in the OSD, unless he said he wanted someother email addr

Re: CPAN Test Data

2001-05-14 Thread Graham Barr
No directly, but it could be. The only place it exists as a single thing is in the MySQL database that tester.cpan.org works from. Graham. On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:27:56PM -0400, Adam Turoff wrote: > Is the data used for testers.cpan.org available anywhere in one > comprehensive chunk? > >

Re: CPAN meeting minutes

2001-09-05 Thread Graham Barr
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 06:43:13PM -0400, Chris Nandor wrote: > At 08:36 -0400 2001.06.24, Jon Orwant wrote: > >On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 12:28:06AM -0700, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > >> On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > >> > btw - Is there anything we can do at TPC for Paul 'the test

Re: A few small coding jobs need done this week

2001-09-10 Thread Graham Barr
Don't you think this should have been discussed with cpan-testers FIRST !!! As it is I was about to change the script, but this module would not have been changed. Graham. On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 10:45:00PM -0400, Kirrily Robert wrote: > In lists.projects.perl.cpan-workers, you wrote: > > > >-

Re: A few small coding jobs need done this week

2001-09-10 Thread Graham Barr
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 12:21:19PM -0400, Kirrily Robert wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 08:30:06AM +0100, Graham Barr wrote: > | Don't you think this should have been discussed with cpan-testers FIRST !!! > > Probably. I kinda assumed that Schwern had... oops :( > > |

Re: CMSP 01. Update the YAML version declaration

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:41:35] 01. Update the YAML version declaration Proposal: The version declaration for YAML has not been "--- #YAML:1.0" for a long time, update it to the current YAML 1.1 equivalent. Reject. YAML::Tiny for ol

Re: CMSP 02. Formally switch to "YAML Tiny"

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:42:06] 02. Formally switch to "YAML Tiny" Proposal: Change the language referring to "YAML" to instead refer to "YAML Tiny" and update the specification URL to point to the YAML Tiny specification. (AdamKenne

Re: CMSP 03. Deprecate YAML Tiny dialect for JSON

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:42:35] 03. Deprecate YAML Tiny dialect for JSON Strongly agree. * I would like one violation of the JSON spec: allow Javascript-style comments. My one beef with the JSON spec. Elliot Strongly disagree. We

Re: CMSP 04. Formalize allowed version number formats

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:12 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:43:00] 04. Formalize allowed version number formats Proposal: Formalize the spec for version numbers as "decimal or normalized dotted-integer (leading "v" and at least 3 components). (Dagolden) Agree. (Wordi

Re: CMSP 06. Data structures, not YAML

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:14 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:44:43] 06. Data structures, not YAML Proposal: The META spec should be defined in terms of (Perl) data structures, and not in terms of YAML. (Slaven Rezic) Agreed, but the spec should be very clear (perhaps,

Re: CMSP 07. Enhance granularity of prerequisites

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:16 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:45:22] 07. Enhance granularity of prerequisites Agreed. Also suggest (08. Extensibly Group Prereqs) as related and useful. +1 Graham.

Re: CMSP 08. Extensibly Group Prereqs

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:46 AM, David Golden wrote: 08. Extensibly Group Prereqs Proposal: Rather than have 'config_requires' and 'install_requires' and 'signature_requires' and 'build_recommends', have a two-level system. This requires a small bit of reworking now, but is easy to extend later

Re: CMSP 05. Schema

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:43 AM, David Golden wrote: 05. Schema Proposal: The META spec should come along with a formal schema definition. (SlavenRezic) I am not so much concerned about a formal schema. But an official module to validate, or purge bad data, would be great. otherwise users end up

Re: CMSP 09. Clarify intent of 'recommends' and add 'suggests'

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:46 AM, David Golden wrote: 09. Clarify intent of 'recommends' and add 'suggests' Proposal: The 'recommends' flag is not equivalent to Debian recommends. The intent should be made clear for authors and the toolchain. If the Debian definitions are adopted to better match

Re: CMSP 10. Add a free-text prerequisite field

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:47 AM, David Golden wrote: 10. Add a free-text prerequisite field Proposal: Add free-text entries that *describe* prerequisites that cannot be described right now, like "prerequisite: a working libexpat", "Need a perl with defined-or", "Need root access to /media/test".

Re: CMSP 11. OS/arch/platform-specific requirements

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:47 AM, David Golden wrote: 11. OS/arch/platform-specific requirements Proposal: I would like to see a way to specify OS-specific requirements. One option might be to use Devel::CheckOS, which already seems to have a comprehensive list of supported OS names, and have a

Re: CMSP 12. Allow Sequences (Arrays) for Prereqs

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:47 AM, David Golden wrote: 12. Allow Sequences (Arrays) for Prereqs Proposal: Right now, to the best of my knowledge, the only benefit of a the magic "Bundle::" namespace is that its prerequisites can be declared in optimal installation order. If META allowed prereqs

Re: CMSP 13. Add a post_depends set

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:48 AM, David Golden wrote: 13. Add a post_depends set Proposal: Permit specifying of packages that should be installed to provide part of a packages functionality, but should be installed/built *after* the package is installed. (kentnl) I hate circular dependencies

Re: CMSP 14. Prerequisites should be mutually exclusive

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:48 AM, David Golden wrote: 14. Prerequisites should be mutually exclusive Proposal: Modules should only be listed once across all prerequisite categories. E.g. a 'requires' module shouldn't be listed in 'test_requires'; a 'configure_requires' module shouldn't be listed in '

Re: CMSP 15. Add development_requires

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:49 AM, David Golden wrote: 15. Add development_requires Proposal: The development_requires field should specify all prerequisites only needed during development. For example this could include templating or other preprocessing modules needed to generate the final sourc

Re: CMSP 16. Binary Package Dependencies

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:49:40] 16. Binary Package Dependencies No vote, but highly dubious that it could be done in a way we won't regret later. I agree. Graham.

Re: CMSP 17. Better formalization of license field

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:50 AM, David Golden wrote: 17. Better formalization of license field Proposal: Replace the list of strings for the "license" field with something extensible and unambiguous. (RicardoSignes) +1 From the perspective of search.cpan I would like to see it have two properti

Re: CMSP 18. Make dynamic_config mandatory

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:50 AM, David Golden wrote: 18. Make dynamic_config mandatory Proposal: Make the 'dynamic_config' a mandatory field (Dagolden) * Or rename it to static_config (chorny) no opinion Graham.

Re: CMSP 19. Make repository resource a hash

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:51 AM, David Golden wrote: 19. Make repository resource a hash resources: repository: web: http://github.com/2shortplanks/test-time-hires url: git://github.com/2shortplanks/test-time-hires.git format: git type: github +1

Re: CMSP 20. Make bugtracker resource a hash

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:34 AM, Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:51:29 -0400 2009: 20. Make bugtracker resource a hash Proposal: The bugtracker resource shoudl be made into a hash that defines different types of resources, e.g. web page, email r

Re: CMSP 21. Formalize optional_features

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:51:56] 21. Formalize optional_features Proposal: Optional features: is supported in META.yml, but it requires a lot of manual intervention and trickery to make it work. And it is very poorly documented. (Tux)

Re: CMSP 22. Clarify author field

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:52:22] 22. Clarify author field Proposal: I would like to see some clarification of what an author is, especially since the numbers of distros Agreed. * I think there are two things you want to know abou

Re: CMSP 23. Have a "development version" flag

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:52:45] 23. Have a "development version" flag Agreed. * Con: Development version'ness would not be determinable post- installation AdamKennedy Packlist 2.0? Agreed. The main use of development status see

Re: CMSP 24. Add a "release_status" field

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:53 AM, David Golden wrote: 24. Add a "release_status" field Proposal: Add a mandatory ''release_status'' field with a limited list of acceptable values. E.g. "stable", "testing" and "unstable", with "alpha" as an alias for "unstable" and "beta" as an alias for "test

Re: CMSP 25. Controlling test suite runs

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:53 AM, David Golden wrote: 25. Controlling test suite runs Proposal: The META spec should add flags to indicate that distribution's tests may be shuffled or run in parallel. (SlavenRezic) I do not think the META is the right place for this. It seems something that could

Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:53:50 -0400 2009: 26. Specify a DLSIP resource Proposal: DLSIP codes should be specified in META.* as a resource. My impression of DLSIP is that it's nearly as unused as the modules

Re: CMSP 27. Long description

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:54:13] 27. Long description Proposal: Field for long description that can be used in search, when generating README, OS packages or submitting dist to Ohloh, Freshmeat and similar sites. --Chorny 19:40, 21

Re: CMSP 28. Short description

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:54:35] 28. Short description Proposal: Field for short description that can be used in search (with higher priority than long description), when generating README, OS packages or submitting dist to Ohloh, Fres

Re: CMSP 29. Language

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:54:51] 29. Language Proposal: Perl 6 is coming. Some code in Perl 6 is already being uploaded to the CPAN. A new "language" field is an important part of the structure we need to allow Perl 6 to reuse the e

Re: CMSP 30. Trove-Like Categories

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:55 AM, David Golden wrote: 30. Trove-Like Categories Proposal: Add Freshmeat.net or SourceForge-like trove categories with topics programming languages, etc. As opposed to keywords/labels/tags they are a nested tree, and will also be limited to a given list. This will

Re: CMSP 31. Version changes

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:20 AM, Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:55:36 -0400 2009: 31. Version changes Proposal: Description of changes in that versions and tags for changes. Useful for submission to Freshmeat and for quick review of changes. --

Re: CMSP 32. Steal from other package meta specs

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:56 AM, David Golden wrote: 32. Steal from other package meta specs Proposal: Hunt down the spec authors and some heavy package users, ask what in the spec/package meta files works for them and what doesn't, then steal the best features. -- Daxim Seems like an ongoi

Re: CMSP 33. Install Meta files and make them queryable

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:56:24 -0400 2009: 33. Install Meta files and make them queryable Proposal: Using something like .packlist or File::ShareDir, the Meta file should be installed along with the distrib

Re: CMSP 34. Formally reserve keys for private 'in-house' use

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:56:46] 34. Formally reserve keys for private 'in-house' use Proposal: For in-house, non-CPAN use, it would be nice to be able to extend META.yml to contain extra keys and data, but any extensions that we choos

Re: CMSP 17. Better formalization of license field

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Ruslan Zakirov wrote: * There won't need to be a list, apart from perhaps 02packages. also, cpan:///package/Software::License::Perl_5 works; it makes it easy to re-use your own license in a machine-readable way by publishing it as a package, and is namespace

Re: CMSP 33. Install Meta files and make them queryable

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Tim Bunce wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 09:21:14AM -0400, Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden [2009-10-09T07:56:24] 33. Install Meta files and make them queryable Proposal: Using something like .packlist or File::ShareDir, the Meta file should be installed a

Re: CMSP 06. Data structures, not YAML

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: I really don't think we should have Perl data structures in files (that means Perl code, right?), because that indicates doing an eval, and I don't want to eval any more random code off the 'net than necessary. I strongly agree that we shoul

Re: CMSP 19. Make repository resource a hash

2009-10-09 Thread Graham Barr
On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:21 PM, David Golden wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:51 AM, David Golden wrote: 19. Make repository resource a hash resources: repository: web: http://github.com/2shortplanks/test-time-hires url: git://github.com/2shortplanks/test-time-hires.git for

Re: Trimming the CPAN - "Automatic Purging"

2010-03-25 Thread Graham Barr
On Mar 25, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Barbie wrote: > > Lastly I would also personnally be annoyed if only the latest versions > were available, as I often make great use of the diff tool on > search.cpan.org. Having only the latest version renders that great tool > redundant :( I use that too :-) and it

Re: How to have Perl 5 and Perl 6 cohabitate nicely on CPAN

2010-04-14 Thread Graham Barr
On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:48 AM, Tim Bunce wrote: > >> If we separate Perl 5 and Perl 6 distributions within the file system, >> we can distinguish between them easily and without relying on indexes, >> meta data files or other elements of complexity. > > True, but is that *really* a significant need

Re: How to have Perl 5 and Perl 6 cohabitate nicely on CPAN

2010-04-14 Thread Graham Barr
On Apr 14, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Jesse Vincent wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 06:14:45AM -0700, Ovid wrote: >> --- On Wed, 14/4/10, Jesse Vincent wrote: >> >>> From: Jesse Vincent >>> Agreed, but you know you're going to see this and >>> variants thereof: requires:

Re: Adjusting CPAN::Mirrors to make it more useful

2011-04-28 Thread Graham Barr
On Apr 28, 2011, at 11:19 , brian d foy wrote: > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Adam Kennedy wrote: >> I think I may have implemented what you're looking for several years >> ago for JSAN, which has a client that auto-detected appropriate >> mirrors in a few seconds each time it starts. >> >>