uot; as a distinct ontological entity is not
useful, but I may be wrong;-)
Best,
Martin
Right?
Rob
*From: *Crm-sig on behalf of Martin
Doerr
*Date: *Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:46 PM
*To: *"crm-sig@ics.forth.gr"
*Subject: *Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 369, Phase
Dear All,
Tentativel
.
Right?
Rob
From: Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr
Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:46 PM
To: "crm-sig@ics.forth.gr"
Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 369, Phase
Dear All,
Tentatively here an extension of my previous scope note. If it becomes more
controversial, we may drop it:
Dear All,
Here my last attempt, the most demanding. I have tried to be as
conservative as possible: individual beliefs of particular facts etc.:
SOxxx Mental Attitude
Subclass of: E2 Temporal Entity
Superclass of: Belief, Intention
Scope note: This class comprises the con
Dear All,
Tentatively here an extension of my previous scope note. If it becomes
more controversial, we may drop it:
Exxx Phase
Subclass of: E2 Temporal Entity
Superclass of:E3 Condition State
Scope note: This class comprises phases during the existence and
evolution of an ins
Dear Thanasi,
On 2/19/2019 7:13 PM, Athanasios Velios wrote:
Thank you Francesco and Martin for articulating my question properly. I
can understand that we can already deal with the fuzzy temporal
boundaries of a phase. Martin's "observable properties" makes it clearer
for me and perhaps it is w
Dear Francesco,
In support of your answer to Thanasis below:
On 2/19/2019 10:53 AM, Francesco Beretta wrote:
Dear Thanasis
Le 18.02.19 à 22:38, Athanasios Velios a écrit :
I like this scope note but my only concern is that an observer cannot
tell when one phase ends and the next one begins.
Dear Francesco,
On 2/19/2019 10:18 AM, Francesco Beretta wrote:
Hi,
I agree with Martin's definition of phase and point of view of not
"connecting a discussion about "phases of ideas" with "phases of
Physical Things".
I earlier thought myself that ideas, in some ways, could have 'phases'
Thank you Francesco and Martin for articulating my question properly. I
can understand that we can already deal with the fuzzy temporal
boundaries of a phase. Martin's "observable properties" makes it clearer
for me and perhaps it is worth emphasising in the scope note.
1) Examples of observable p
Dear Franco,
This may need an addition in the scope note of E19 Physical Object: We
definitely regard that an instance of E19 with all parts replaced is
identical. As an Amount of Matter, it is no more the same. The position
is, that there is no paradox, but the question is underspecified,
be
Dear Thanasi,
I understand. This may need more elaboration. The type of the phase
determines the characteristic observable properties. We should see examples.
These properties may begin and end fuzzily, but that does not affect the
concept, as long as inner-outer bounds can be assigned.
Bes
Hi Martin,
I think that adequately covers my concern. I was indeed thinking of phases
in the development of *peoples' *ideas (beliefs).
Cheers,
Martijn
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:40 PM Martin Doerr wrote:
> Dear Martijn,
>
> On 2/18/2019 5:10 PM, van Leusen, P.M. wrote:
>
> Dear Martin,
>
> Wou
Dear Thanasis
Le 18.02.19 à 22:38, Athanasios Velios a écrit :
I like this scope note but my only concern is that an observer cannot
tell when one phase ends and the next one begins. How can we explain
that a phase is no longer?
The whole discussion concerning 'phases' (to avoid the unclear
This discussion reminds me the “Ship of Theseus” paradox (for those who don’t
remember it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus).
So Phases depend on the identity criteria assumed for the Entity.
Franco
Prof. Franco Niccolucci
Director, VAST-LAB
PIN - U. of Florence
Scientific Coordin
Hi,
I agree with Martin's definition of phase and point of view of not
"connecting a discussion about "phases of ideas" with "phases of
Physical Things".
I earlier thought myself that ideas, in some ways, could have 'phases'
but it seems more suitable, in the way of modeling adopted by the C
I like this scope note but my only concern is that an observer cannot
tell when one phase ends and the next one begins. How can we explain
that a phase is no longer?
All the best,
Thanasis
On 17/02/2019 19:44, Martin Doerr wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Here a first attempt to define "phase":
>
>
>
Dear Martijn,
On 2/18/2019 5:10 PM, van Leusen, P.M. wrote:
Dear Martin,
Would you want to tie the existence of a phase exclusively to E18
Physical Things? One can imagine phases in the development of ideas as
well
Yes to both. As always, we do not model the term, here "phase", but try
Dear Martin,
Would you want to tie the existence of a phase exclusively to E18 Physical
Things? One can imagine phases in the development of ideas as well
Martijn
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 8:54 PM Martin Doerr wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Here a first attempt to define "phase":
>
> Exxx Phase
>
>
Dear All,
Here a first attempt to define "phase":
Exxx Phase
Subclass of: E2 Temporal Entity
Superclass of:E3 Condition State
Scope note:This class comprises phases during the existence and
evolution of an instance of E18 Physical Thing characterized by an
appearance, constitution or
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