Re: [css-d] CSS & Lists

2005-11-14 Thread Christian Heilmann
> ul#NoBullet > li#TickGreenSmall > 3px left no-repeat; > } > > The webpage is a long one with several different styles of lists. > So now, instead of defining a list with just the one ID= in the > UL, I also have to define every line. > > Is there a more efficient way to combine [UL ID="No

Re: [css-d] CSS & Lists

2005-11-14 Thread Christian Heilmann
> So, I follow all the discuss about this. I probe this and I have a good works. > > ul { > padding-left: 20px; > margin-left: 5px; > } > > li { > list-style: url(../images/li.gif); > vertical-align: middle; > padding-left: 1px; > color: #3E4D57; >

Re: [css-d] removing IE border on linked images

2005-11-14 Thread Michael Hulse
On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:57 PM, bill wrote: > Thanks Mickey, That did it. I just need to re-space those images in > the container now. It actually makes more sense your way Glad it works for you now... don't forget to thank bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> too. :) I quoted his original response in my last

Re: [css-d] CSS & Lists

2005-11-14 Thread Reynier Perez Mira
So, I follow all the discuss about this. I probe this and I have a good works. ul { padding-left: 20px; margin-left: 5px; } li { list-style: url(../images/li.gif); vertical-align: middle; padding-left: 1px; color: #3E4D57; font: 11px Tahoma;

Re: [css-d] removing IE border on linked images

2005-11-14 Thread bill
Thanks Mickey, That did it. I just need to re-space those images in the container now. It actually makes more sense your way since the image FOLLOWS the link. And the browser thinks so, too :-} Thanks so much for the help. Bill Scheider -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

Re: [css-d] CSS & Lists

2005-11-14 Thread Bill Hely
Thanks very much Seona. That works fine. One small problem - which I can live with if necessary - is that there is now a lot more work involved setting up the lists. What I have now is this: ul#NoBullet { list-style: none; margin-left: 25px; padding-left: 0px;

Re: [css-d] removing IE border on linked images

2005-11-14 Thread Michael Hulse
On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:31 PM, bill wrote: > I probably should've done this in the first place but since the fixes > you sent -- they were all the same fix BTW: img a { border: none; } -- > didn't fix my problem Hi Bill, I know it is easy to mix things up, but did you happen to try reversing the

Re: [css-d] CSS & Lists

2005-11-14 Thread Christian Montoya
> When using an image as a bullet point, is it possible to "push > the image down" so it doesn't project well above the text > associated with that bullet? > > I'm using something like this: > > ul#TickGreenSmall { > list-style-image: url(/images/Tick-green-small.gif); > margi

Re: [css-d] removing IE border on linked images

2005-11-14 Thread bill
Hi Craig (and the others who responded so quickly)! I probably should've done this in the first place but since the fixes you sent -- they were all the same fix BTW: img a { border: none; } -- didn't fix my problem, here's a link to the partial page: http://www.first-encounter-design.com/test . T

Re: [css-d] removing IE border on linked images

2005-11-14 Thread Craig Cook
On 11/14/05, bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone know how direct IE to remove the (default ?) border it places around > images that serve as links? i.e. src="images/about-hnav.jpg" alt="hey, hey, hey" /> a img { border: none; } Translated, that means any element which is a descendent of a

Re: [css-d] removing IE border on linked images

2005-11-14 Thread Jonathan Mao
Hi Have you tried a rule applied to the img tag? img { border: 0; } Hope that helps - Jonno On 15/11/2005, at 3:32 PM, bill wrote: > Hi there, > > Anyone know how direct IE to remove the (default ?) border it > places around > images that serve as links? i.e. src="images/about-hnav.jpg"

[css-d] removing IE border on linked images

2005-11-14 Thread bill
Hi there, Anyone know how direct IE to remove the (default ?) border it places around images that serve as links? i.e. In FF, I get what I want: just the image. In IE, image has border around it the color of a default text link (blue) This may be pretty simple but I've been screwing aroun

[css-d] CSS & Lists

2005-11-14 Thread Bill Hely
I'm trying to come to grips with using CSS with lists. When using an image as a bullet point, is it possible to "push the image down" so it doesn't project well above the text associated with that bullet? I'm using something like this: ul#TickGreenSmall { list-style-image: url(/ima

Re: [css-d] The nuances of CSS Positioning

2005-11-14 Thread Adie Hart
Subject: Re: [css-d] The nuances of CSS Positioning >I received a private message asking me to clarify the specifics of what's >troubling me: >I think the key problem I'm having is a precise definition of "float" >and "clear". You could take a simple description to be the float works the same as

Re: [css-d] The nuances of CSS Positioning

2005-11-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lst Recv wrote: > I received a private message asking me to clarify the specifics of > what's troubling me: > > I think the key problem I'm having is a precise definition of "float" > and "clear". The basics (is well known I guess): Some not so

[css-d] Background position discrepancies / bugs?

2005-11-14 Thread Weston Cann
Are there any known issues/bugs with the background-position property between IE and Moz? Assays of the topic? __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __

Re: [css-d] The nuances of CSS Positioning

2005-11-14 Thread Lst Recv
I received a private message asking me to clarify the specifics of what's troubling me: I think the key problem I'm having is a precise definition of "float" and "clear". __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org

[css-d] The nuances of CSS Positioning

2005-11-14 Thread Lst Recv
Hi. I find CSS great, but, I really can't get the nuances of CSS Positioning. It's not that I can't read the specs or anythign - just I really have trouble figuring out how to do the floats and clears and the like properly to get what I have in my mind on to the screen. I think part of this migh

[css-d] Kill textarea vertical scrollbar in FF

2005-11-14 Thread cFA
hey there, I cant seem to kill the vertical scroll bar on a text area in firefox. The only thing that does it is if I increase the height on the text area which I dont really want to do as I have a set height for an area that I dont want to increase. Ive tried also the proprietary moz overflow pro

Re: [css-d] Multipart hr styling

2005-11-14 Thread Kelly Miller
Actually, I ran some experimental styling on the element in my last design project, and found the following: Firefox (1.5beta) and Opera (9beta) allow full customization of the element. That's a good sign for the future, but I've yet to test it in earlier versions. IE (6, quirks mode) insis

Re: [css-d] Multipart hr styling

2005-11-14 Thread Graham Reeds
After posting I sat down and took the styling to pieces. This might help someone else. I started off with just the tag inside a that had a 'clear: both' rule to stop it overwriting other elements. Then I applied the styling rule of style and hide from [1]. A bit of tweaking gave me a graphi

Re: [css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread Michael Hulse
On Nov 14, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Rachell Coe wrote: > Is it possible to create columns in CSS where the text automatically > flows > from one column to another on the page? An interesting example of this technique can be found here: http://www.iht.com/ Choose a story, for example: http://www.iht.co

[css-d] multiple columns problems and Dreamweaver

2005-11-14 Thread Stuart King
I am trying to make a multiple column list in Dreamweaver. I am having several problems: 1. In Dreamweaver: instead of appearing on the top of the page, the multiple columns are appearing at the bottom of the page in staggered order. How do I fix this? http://www.derekholstein.com/1stop/1stopss.ht

Re: [css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread Al Sparber
> I'm geekin out over this!!! Using the javascript implementation, > how > widely is it supported? Trying to read flowed columns in a browser could be more of a usability liability than aything else. I shudder to see where CSS3 is attempting to take us. I don't want to editorialize the wrongh

Re: [css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread Rachell Coe
I've been trying to get it to work, but have been unsuccessful. According to the page you linked me to, I have to put a link to the js underneath my css link. I've done that. But where do I put the column commands? Do I add them as a selector in my style sheet such as: #columns { font-

[css-d] Multipart hr styling

2005-11-14 Thread Graham Reeds
Work is continuing apace on the site I am working on: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/graham.reeds/space Sometimes I need to split the page into two or more logical blocks. Naturally a horizontal rule would be the ideal divider for this. However the current method uses three images to blend it i

Re: [css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread Olly Hodgson
On 14/11/05, Rachell Coe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm geekin out over this!!! Using the javascript implementation, how > widely is it supported? Before you go too far down that route, I suggest that you check out

Re: [css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread Dan Kletter
It's not supported by IE5/Mac and probably not anything older on Win or Mac. However, it gracefully degrades. Instead of displaying multi-columns, it displays as a single column. Definitely works in FF (Win & Mac) and Safari quite nicely. Best, On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Rachell Coe wrote: > I'm gee

[css-d] divs not expanding with content

2005-11-14 Thread Luke Mackenzie
I am reposting this as I think people were getting a 500 error when trying to access my site. See below for details of the problem. Many thanks, luke. _ From: Luke Mackenzie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2005 18:18 To: 'css-d@lists.css-discuss.org' Subject: divs not exp

Re: [css-d] ul li IE madness

2005-11-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Schalk wrote: > Please have a look at the following page: http://www.volume4.com/tc/ > > When looking at this using Firefox, every thing is perfect(for now), > but IE has a different idea of how it interprets my CSS. Any ideas. > Is this time for conditional tags or am I missing something. Thanks

Re: [css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread Rachell Coe
I'm geekin out over this!!! Using the javascript implementation, how widely is it supported? Rachell Coe Webmaster King Estate Winery 541-942-9874 Ext: 136 http://www.kingestate.com -Original Message- From: Dan Kletter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:36 PM

[css-d] ADMIN: Re: MovieMadeProductions.com

2005-11-14 Thread Adam Kuehn
Steve Tchorzewski wrote: >Oh, sorry about that. >That email was not intentionally sent to the mailing list. >I must have CC'ed CSS-Discuss on accident while composing that e-mail. Apology accepted on behalf of the list. >So chill out asshole. On the other hand, flaming of any kind is against the

Re: [css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread Dan Kletter
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Pringle, Ron wrote: > Only by using CSS3 which is not widely supported. Or you can use the Javascript implementation: http://www.csscripting.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page --dk Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. __

Re: [css-d] Who is up for a CSS challenge?

2005-11-14 Thread Christian Heilmann
> I think you are missing the point here. There are lots of CMS driven > websites that have their layout controlled by CSS. This is not to say > that every page is identical, obviously you need different hooks, or > divs, on different pages. CSS Toolshed is not against that. The point > is that you

Re: [css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread Eric Ladner
I've seen this done with a javascript/css solution somewhere. Has a FOUC problem though. Might be worth googling, though. On 11/14/05, Pringle, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it possible to create columns in CSS where the text > > automatically flows > > from one column to another on the

[css-d] ul li IE madness

2005-11-14 Thread Schalk
Greetings All Please have a look at the following page: http://www.volume4.com/tc/ When looking at this using Firefox, every thing is perfect(for now), but IE has a different idea of how it interprets my CSS. Any ideas. Is this time for conditional tags or am I missing something. Thanks! -- K

Re: [css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread CJ Larson
I better say at the start I didn't fully understand the question, so this might be completely off base. If so, ignore it. If not, well good. :) One thing to note is that it's possible to fake the look of crossing columns by using background images. The wiki has many useful links to help you wi

Re: [css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread Pringle, Ron
> Is it possible to create columns in CSS where the text > automatically flows > from one column to another on the page? > > > Rachell Coe Rachell- Only by using CSS3 which is not widely supported. http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-css3-multicol-20010118/ Regards, Ron

[css-d] Flowable CSS Columns?

2005-11-14 Thread Rachell Coe
Is it possible to create columns in CSS where the text automatically flows from one column to another on the page? Rachell Coe Webmaster King Estate Winery 541-942-9874 Ext: 136 http://www.kingestate.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL

Re: [css-d] MovieMadeProductions.com

2005-11-14 Thread Steve Tchorzewski
Oh, sorry about that. That email was not intentionally sent to the mailing list. I must have CC'ed CSS-Discuss on accident while composing that e-mail. So chill out asshole. -Original Message- From: David Laakso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:43 AM To: S

Re: [css-d] Who is up for a CSS challenge?

2005-11-14 Thread Christian Montoya
> It's a challenge allright, but I have to say, I don't think CSS is actually > able to do what you're saying. Too much of CSS is dependent of the order of > items, that I doubt you'd have enough flexibility to design whatever you want, > purely with CSS. > > If you were not able to modify the unde

Re: [css-d] IE and FF Table Cell Gaps

2005-11-14 Thread Thierry Koblentz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have an issue with table cells displaying differently in IE and FF. > In IE all appears well. But in FF, there is a gap at the bottom of > each table td. > > What is causing this? > > http://www.kustom.com/092005/amps/guitar/guitaramps.asp Try: img {vertical-alig

[css-d] IE and FF Table Cell Gaps

2005-11-14 Thread jdreid
I have an issue with table cells displaying differently in IE and FF. In IE all appears well. But in FF, there is a gap at the bottom of each table td. What is causing this? http://www.kustom.com/092005/amps/guitar/guitaramps.asp TIA Jeff _

Re: [css-d] i am lost on how to do this in css

2005-11-14 Thread Jim Davis
Jon, Here is a demo of an approach that uses a single div: http://www.jimdavis.org/multifloats.htm This example assumes all of the main images are the same size. I haven't applied any IE fixes that may be required but it seems to work in IE 6 and FF/win. Jim On 11/14/05, Jon Stephenson <[EMAIL P

[css-d] IE and FF Table Cell Gaps

2005-11-14 Thread jdreid
I have an issue with table cells displaying differently in IE and FF. In IE all appears well. But in FF, there is a gap at the bottom of each table td. What is causing this? http://www.kustom.com/092005/amps/guitar/guitaramps.asp TIA Jeff _

[css-d] MovieMadeProductions.com

2005-11-14 Thread Steve Tchorzewski
I put some crazy long hours in optimizing moiviemake over the weekend. http://www.moviemadeproductions.com/ There were many GLARING issues including a Meta refresh that was choking google-bot. I did some keyword fishing and everything, & FIXED the jacked menus (of course) there is still much wor

[css-d] ADMIN: Re: Too Funny, and (yes) really off topic...

2005-11-14 Thread Adam Kuehn
Christian Heilmann wrote: > > > > But, on a quasi-related note, I have this thing about comments appearing on > > production... Comments, as far as HTML goes, should only be for developers. > > Language like "F**king table" isn't appropriate for the end user, and > > neither is the bytes used (wast

Re: [css-d] Skinning/style switching issue

2005-11-14 Thread Robyn
I switch it with ColdFusion, so no client side scripting. I will produce a test scenario on a live site soon, but can't unfortunately provide that yet. I will let you know when it is available! Thanks, Robyn Ingo Chao wrote: >Robyn wrote: > > > >>Why does this happen? >> >>Unfortunately thi

Re: [css-d] Too Funny, and not really off topic...

2005-11-14 Thread Les Mizzell
Christian Heilmann wrote: >>But, on a quasi-related note, I have this thing about comments appearing on >>production... Comments, as far as HTML goes, should only be for developers. >>Language like "F**king table" isn't appropriate for the end user, and >>neither is the bytes used (wasted?) on tran

[css-d] weird drop down behavior

2005-11-14 Thread Tod
I am following the dropdown guide at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dropdowns. Everything works fine but I found something a little quirky that is throwing me. In the tag a width is a constant of 10em. I decided that since I can't always guarantee the text size of my list items I would try

Re: [css-d] Too Funny, and not really off topic...

2005-11-14 Thread Christian Heilmann
> > But, on a quasi-related note, I have this thing about comments appearing on > production... Comments, as far as HTML goes, should only be for developers. > Language like "F**king table" isn't appropriate for the end user, and > neither is the bytes used (wasted?) on transmitting it. To wrap up

Re: [css-d] Too Funny, and not really off topic...

2005-11-14 Thread Shelly @ WDG
I used to do this - and I had to stop when a couple of clients got a little offended. :( (Some people are no fun at all!) I've quit commenting altogether because I can't seem to keep smart remarks like that from coming through - and as they say, "if you can't say something nice..." I'd hate t

Re: [css-d] Too Funny, and not really off topic...

2005-11-14 Thread Mark Canlas
> couldn't explain it to her. ...and I thought *I* left weird stuff in my > comments from time to time!! I've contributed my fair share of odd comments, mostly after encountering frustrated CSS bugs and then documenting the solution. Who says you can't be humorous with comments? =) But, on a quas

Re: [css-d] Too Funny, and not really off topic...

2005-11-14 Thread Dan McCullough
I've caught several people leeching designs and scripts and stuff by placing odd comments in various locations. I have seen some doozies before but this one is pretty funny. On 11/14/05, Les Mizzell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just inherited a mostly CSS based site. While poking through code,

[css-d] Too Funny, and not really off topic...

2005-11-14 Thread Les Mizzell
I just inherited a mostly CSS based site. While poking through code, which is well commented (Hey Mr. Previous Developer - thanks!!!) I came across this on a page with a couple of nested tables: ~TABLE HERE~ ...and then all the CSS Stuff was commented out under the table. My wife was in

Re: [css-d] yet another FF problem

2005-11-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Augusto Murri wrote: > The problem appair only in FF.. as u can see the left DIV#body_LEFT > don't scroll at the bottom. The problem appear in all browsers but IE/win. IE/win is saved by the 'hasLayout' bug/feature. Conclusion: IE/win is broken. Nothing new there. > http://www.opent.it/gasper_tes

[css-d] i am lost on how to do this in css

2005-11-14 Thread Jon Stephenson
I work for a large floral wire service and we offer template based web sites to our members. I have been given the go ahead to try and build a css based template for our sites and have gotten everything working except for the product page. I have played with making little div boxes and then with a

[css-d] default list image markers

2005-11-14 Thread Mark Batty
Hi all I made a minimal test case here: html: http://public.softectra.com/dev/lang/markup/css/cssd/141105_1/list_tst.html css: http://public.softectra.com/dev/lang/markup/css/cssd/141105_1/css/good_list. css The objective is to use an image marker for the list items and if images are not availabl

[css-d] Combining Project Seven Techniques

2005-11-14 Thread Arnold Gregory
This message is pretty much for Al Sparber but of possible interest to others. I have used both the Projectseven CSS Tree Menu and Equal Column Length Java script techniques successfully. On this page I have tried to combine them. http://dreamlaunch.erau.edu/indexec.html The problem is the equ

[css-d] yet another FF problem

2005-11-14 Thread Augusto Murri
Hi all, i've some problem to show the left DIV menu in this layout... The problem appair only in FF.. as u can see the left DIV#body_LEFT don't scroll at the bottom. http://www.opent.it/gasper_test/index2.htm sorry for my english.. someone can help me?? Augusto thx __

Re: [css-d] page check request

2005-11-14 Thread Andy Bennett
On 14 Nov 2005, at 12:38, Schalk wrote: > Greetings All > > Please check the following page: www.volume4.com/scq/ > > in the following browsers: PC: IE 5.5+, Firefox - MAC: Safari 2.0, > Firefox MAC: Looks ok on Firefox, but on Safari, the 3 car images which I guess are supposed to be to th

Re: [css-d] page check request

2005-11-14 Thread David Laakso
Schalk wrote: >Greetings All > >Please check the following page: www.volume4.com/scq/ > >in the following browsers: PC: IE 5.5+, Firefox - MAC: Safari 2.0, Firefox > >Thanks! > > > Schalk, Couple of little things you may want to consider: - You need a background-color on html, body. Not all OS/b

Re: [css-d] page check request

2005-11-14 Thread Graham Cook
There's really not much to check - no links active, no buttons active - just a very basic page. In general, a few questions/observations (I'm running IE6 and Ffox 800x600) * In IE "dealer portal" displays over 2 lines and a there is a gap of over half the width of the car below betw

[css-d] IE scrolling problem?

2005-11-14 Thread Andy Bennett
Hi There, I have a small problem the answer to which may be as simple as saying it's just not possible! first here are the urls: http://shoponline.com/site_css/test/frames.html http://shoponline.com/site_css/test2/frames.html In the first case, the side bar divs are before the main body con

Re: [css-d] Who is up for a CSS challenge?

2005-11-14 Thread Kevin Cannon
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 01:15:28PM +, Christian Heilmann wrote: > Now it is time we did the same for the enterprise level market, where > high level CMS vendors still consider CSS too hard or not flexible > enough to maintain the style of pages based on different templates and > with varying co

[css-d] page check request

2005-11-14 Thread Schalk
Greetings All Please check the following page: www.volume4.com/scq/ in the following browsers: PC: IE 5.5+, Firefox - MAC: Safari 2.0, Firefox Thanks! -- Kind Regards Schalk Neethling Web Developer.Designer.Programmer.President Volume4.Business.Solution.Developers ___

[css-d] My fonts are too small on Mac!

2005-11-14 Thread Adriano Castro
No, this isn't a cry for help. It's actually a word of advice. If you are experiencing this you'll be glad to know there's a solution. I found it at codestyle.org and thought I'd share it with you. Some might already be aware of this but it's probably not a bad idea to share the know

[css-d] Font Embedding / Downloading vs Web-Safe Fonts

2005-11-14 Thread Adriano Castro
Hi, I was about to ask if anyone knew where one stands in terms of font embedding / font downloading. However, after going through the archives I came to the conclusion (please correct me if I'm wrong) that font embedding is just not viable. The spec-correct @font [1] is poorly