Re: [css-d] newbie - problem with CSS bullets not going away and others

2005-11-29 Thread Peter Williams
> From: Laura Greenwood > > and for some reason, even if I copy the exact code in my file, it puts > bullets next to the list item entries even though the CSS > (list-style-type: none) says NOT to put the bullets.. > > I have posted my code at > http://ciswebs.smc.edu/cis51/greenwood_laura_lee/te

[css-d] styling the optgroup in IE Win

2005-11-29 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
IE win uses as default styling for the tag {font-style:italic; font-weight:bold} Is there a way to change this ? optgroup {font-style:normal} doesn't do anything. Changing the color is about the only thing that is recognised. (the default looks screamlingly awful when Japanese text is used.)

Re: [css-d] One pixel height line - FF vs IE

2005-11-29 Thread Mário Gamito
Hi, I'm sorry. I've changed the CSS since my first mail. Please, take a look again. > http://www.tuxdoit.com/prototype.php Sorry again. Warm Regards, Mário Gamito Adie Hart wrote: > I tool a look in IE 6 and FF 1.0.7 on Windows and it looked the same to me > (802x2). > > Adie > > -Ori

Re: [css-d] One pixel height line - FF vs IE

2005-11-29 Thread Richard Grevers
On 11/30/05, Mário Gamito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > If you care to visit > http://www.tuxdoit.com/prototype.php > > you'll see that in Firefox i get a one pixel height line as i want. > But in IE it completely bezerks! > > Is there a way to make this thing work well on both browsers ? T

Re: [css-d] One pixel height line - FF vs IE

2005-11-29 Thread Michael Hulse
On Nov 29, 2005, at 7:56 PM, Michael Hulse wrote: > div.horizRule { > font-size: 1px; > line-height: 1px; > background: url(/img/dotted.gif) repeat-x left center; > padding: 10px 0; > height: 1px; > } > Sorry, "padd

Re: [css-d] One pixel height line - FF vs IE

2005-11-29 Thread Peter Williams
> From: Mário Gamito > > http://www.tuxdoit.com/prototype.php > > you'll see that in Firefox i get a one pixel height line as i want. > But in IE it completely bezerks! Mario, It didn't berserks in my IE6. Nor my new FF 1.5. I do wonder why you have 1px of padding set on the div though, surely

Re: [css-d] Infuriating spacing problem in MSIE6

2005-11-29 Thread Peter Williams
> From: Christie L. Ward > > http://www.quickshift.com/test3.shtml > > In Firefox, the whole thing looks good. In MSIE6, > unfortunately, no matter what I've tried the browser is > putting about one pixel between the two rows (you can see > this where the bottom of the "Q" logo on the left i

Re: [css-d] One pixel height line - FF vs IE

2005-11-29 Thread Michael Hulse
On Nov 29, 2005, at 4:33 PM, Mário Gamito wrote: > Is there a way to make this thing work well on both browsers ? > Hi, Here is an example of a horizontal rule that uses a background image: div.horizRule { font-size: 1px; line-height: 1px; b

Re: [css-d] One pixel height line - FF vs IE

2005-11-29 Thread Adie Hart
I tool a look in IE 6 and FF 1.0.7 on Windows and it looked the same to me (802x2). Adie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mário Gamito Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:34 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] One pixel hei

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 30 Nov 2005, at 6:59 am, Ingo Chao wrote: > I fear that would require the next nastiness ;) > Shifting the margin from #contain to a padding of its container, body? > > http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/float-containII.html One problem with this approach: it *requires* IE6 Win to be in quirks

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Gunlaug Sørtun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win > Ingo Chao wrote: >> http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/float-contain.html > > Poor IE6... :-( > ...and I thought we could save its "not very standard

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Ingo Chao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win > Al wrote: >> if you can get rid of the scrollbar ... > > I fear that would require the next nastiness ;) > Shifting the margin from #contain to a padding

[css-d] Call for Submissions to Header Style Gallery

2005-11-29 Thread Steve Moore
Whenever I'm doing a site with a lot of plain text content, I try to do some styling of the headers to give it more visual appeal. Frequently I've thought "wouldn't it be nice to have a gallery to get ideas from?". So I created one. The Header Style Gallery is a repository for simple CSS styling of

Re: [css-d] centering multiple columns?

2005-11-29 Thread Richard Grevers
On 11/30/05, Mauricio Giraldo Arteaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi > > is there a CSS way of generating this sort of behavior (for any number > of columns): > > > > > some text > > > some text > > > some text > > > > > it would be similar to an align with "distribute horizontal centers

Re: [css-d] FF floating too far, over other elements

2005-11-29 Thread Ben de Groot
Reminds me of another floating bug in FF < 1.5 I couldn't pinpoint in http://dev.d10e.net/wordpress/index.php?wptheme=Out+There Ben. Nick Wilsdon wrote: > Hi, > > Still on this site :) > > I'm trying to float #content over to the left (and everything within it) - > but it moves too far and cov

[css-d] One pixel height line - FF vs IE

2005-11-29 Thread Mário Gamito
Hi, If you care to visit http://www.tuxdoit.com/prototype.php you'll see that in Firefox i get a one pixel height line as i want. But in IE it completely bezerks! Is there a way to make this thing work well on both browsers ? Any help would be apreciated. Warm Regards, Mário Gamito ___

Re: [css-d] Help my design team move away from nested tables

2005-11-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
> SiteGrinder (http://www.medialab.com/sitegrinder/) from Media Lab is a > tool that does this. SiteGrinder takes layered Photoshop designs and > outputs them as working CSS pages. However, as it uses absolute > positioning for page elements, it may or may not be a perfect solution > on its own. Bu

Re: [css-d] Hiding TR in display, Show TR in print

2005-11-29 Thread David Dorward
On 29/11/05, Paul Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm making a report which I want to have a table row hidden in display but > showing up in report Set display: none on it for your media style sheet, but not for your print media style sheet. > (a to seperate the rows). Sounds like a job for

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ingo Chao wrote: > http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/float-contain.html Poor IE6... :-( ...and I thought we could save its "not very standard mode" this time around ;-) Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMA

[css-d] Infuriating spacing problem in MSIE6

2005-11-29 Thread Christie L. Ward
I am working with an existing website that has a table-based layout. Layers and layers of nested tables, yet. I'm hoping in the next big update to go to a whole non-table site, but that's in the plan for the futre. At the moment, I need to add a search box to the navbar. The nav is being prod

Re: [css-d] Classes vs. ids

2005-11-29 Thread Kim Finleyson
According to a book I am reading (Web Standards Solutions by Dan Cederholm), "Less code means faster downloads... Less code also means less server space and bandwidth consumption..." Therefore you should avoid getting "class happy" and overusing classes when it is possible to contain elements withi

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Ingo Chao
Al wrote: > if you can get rid of the scrollbar ... I fear that would require the next nastiness ;) Shifting the margin from #contain to a padding of its container, body? http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/float-containII.html Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Ingo Chao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win > > Guess I am a little late in this race, so I had to do dirty tricks. > > http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/float-contain.html > > Two minor changes. Goo

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CSS-D" Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win > > >> Although you should remember that expressions don't work if the >> client has >> scripting disabled; Christian's hack, though ugly

Re: [css-d] Classes vs. ids

2005-11-29 Thread Kirk Clawes
On 11/29/05, Mark Fredrickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's a general question about CSS that I've been able to quite figure > out. > If one has a DIV that will only appear once per page, which should one > use: > a class or an id? > > Classes are obviously useful at applying to multiple el

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christian Montoya wrote: >> Although you should remember that expressions don't work if the >> client has scripting disabled; ... > I was waiting for someone to say that. For all the times that we talk > about not relying on Javascript, expressions should be no exception. > > :-) You're right

Re: [css-d] Classes vs. ids

2005-11-29 Thread Adam Kuehn
At 11:54 AM 11/29/2005, Mark Fredrickson wrote: >Here's a general question about CSS that I've been able to quite figure out. >If one has a DIV that will only appear once per page, which should one use: >a class or an id? This is a FAQ, and as such it appears on the CSS-D Wiki. See

Re: [css-d] Classes vs. ids

2005-11-29 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Here's a general question about CSS that I've been able to quite figure out. > If one has a DIV that will only appear once per page, which should one use: > a class or an id? > Classes are obviously useful at applying to multiple elements, or applying > multiple classes to one element. What advan

Re: [css-d] background shift

2005-11-29 Thread Christian Montoya
On 11/29/05, rashantha de silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have a simple div with a fixed background image. > > the background is shifted to the left by about 130 pixels or so. > what am i doing wrong? > background-attachment:fixed means "fixed to the viewport," which in this case is the body

Re: [css-d] Classes vs. ids

2005-11-29 Thread Ben Henick
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Mark Fredrickson wrote: > Here's a general question about CSS that I've been able to quite figure > out. If one has a DIV that will only appear once per page, which should > one use: a class or an id? An oldie, but a goodie (beware obsolete code): http://www.hotwired.com/web

Re: [css-d] Classes vs. ids

2005-11-29 Thread Keith Sader
On 11/29/05, Mark Fredrickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a general question about CSS that I've been able to quite figure out. > If one has a DIV that will only appear once per page, which should one use: > a class or an id? Well lMO, an id should be used for a specific item that won't ap

Re: [css-d] Help my design team move away from nested tables

2005-11-29 Thread Phil Tobias
On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When engaging a client my design team will for provide still image > created via Photoshop to the > client. Once the client accepts the design the design person will use > Adobe ImageReady to produce > HTML cut-ups. As you can guess the cont

Re: [css-d] Layout - left and right column fluid and centre column fixed?

2005-11-29 Thread Christian Montoya
Wish I had seen this before I tried it: http://algemeenbekend.nl/misc/challenge_gerben_v2.html This was a winning solution to: http://web-graphics.com/mtarchive/001668.php And does everything I was about to do. Enjoy! -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid

[css-d] div won't expand/contract in IEwin

2005-11-29 Thread Rolf Mortenson
I've got a module from a fairly complex page that uses some javascript to toggle the display of a text box if a user selects "other" from the dropdown menu. When the text box is displayed, it should push everything below it further down the page, expanding the div that contains each row of

[css-d] Hiding TR in display, Show TR in print

2005-11-29 Thread Paul Davis
I'm making a report which I want to have a table row hidden in display but showing up in report (a to seperate the rows). How can I do this, thanks. (the showing up part, the hidding, I think should be display:none;) Paul __ Yahoo! Mail

Re: [css-d] Layout - left and right column fluid and centre column fixed?

2005-11-29 Thread Christian Montoya
WITH A FOOTER: http://www.christianmontoya.com/examples/poster.html Not yet compatible with IE win (needs layout). Also requires standards box model. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com _

Re: [css-d] When to use raw numbers for units?

2005-11-29 Thread Felix Miata
Ben de Groot wrote: > Michael Hulse wrote: > > I have always specified a unit when coding my CSS (except units of 0). > > I am wondering what, when, why, and where I would be specifying a raw # > > for units? Examples? > Never, except for 0. Actually, as http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/line

Re: [css-d] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Scott Hamm
> Scott, I meant that I wanted to know the source of the statement "em is > better than % because of IE goof-ups." I don't know this to be true, so > if you can tell us where you heard this from we can take a look and see > if they have wrong information, know something we don't know, or if you >

Re: [css-d] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Scott Hamm
On 11/29/05, Zoe M. Gillenwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott Hamm wrote: > > >I've been asking around in webdesign mailing list for feedbacks and > >learned a lot about em, % and accessibility in CSS part. I'm trying > >to use % so I can add up to 100% and I've been told that em is better >

Re: [css-d] [css-d ADMIN Off Topic] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Scott Hamm
On 11/29/05, Bob Easton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have wandered astray from the original question. > > To avoid veering further astray, into the dreaded / endless font size > discussion, let's leave this one as it is. > > -- > Bob Easton > > Sorry. At least this has been resourceful and I l

Re: [css-d] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Scott Hamm
On 11/29/05, Squibb, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David is correct in that people with poor eyesight need higher resolution and > then magnify the text. > > I have just had to write an app for viually impaired, and that is the way it > is done. > In that case, which do you use most often?

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Eric A. Meyer
Hi there, All right, we're done here. Bob was right: the thread has diverged into the usual holy war territory, and it needs to stop. If people want to demonstrate ways to use ems for layout, or ways use percentages for layout, or even how to mix the two-- fine. Arguing about which is b

Re: [css-d] Old HTML guy takes a beating...

2005-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ingo Chao wrote: > Just did a Opera9 (technical preview, built 8031, Win) test on my old > inline-block testpage, and it now supports vertical-align for > inline-block content correctly. Very nice. Downloaded your page and made a few tests with variations on it. Adding 'display: inline-table' in

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Ingo Chao
Guess I am a little late in this race, so I had to do dirty tricks. http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/float-contain.html Two minor changes. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www

Re: [css-d] Problems with CSS between Firefox and IE

2005-11-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Reynier Perez Mira wrote: >Zoe Gillenwater wrote: > > >>The fieldset within your left nav, named divNavMainDraggable, is set to 400px >>wide, but the left nav is only 130px wide minus 2em of padding. >>IE is expanding the left nav to hold the overly large fieldset instead of >>letting it ove

Re: [css-d] Help my design team move away from nested tables

2005-11-29 Thread Arnold, Tim
Mike, I don't think the original post was describing a situation where edits to content required going back to the design team. Photoshop and ImageReady are fairly sophisticated with slice attributes. You are able to define regions of the PSD to contain no images, and an empty table cell is code

[css-d] Classes vs. ids

2005-11-29 Thread Mark Fredrickson
Here's a general question about CSS that I've been able to quite figure out. If one has a DIV that will only appear once per page, which should one use: a class or an id? Classes are obviously useful at applying to multiple elements, or applying multiple classes to one element. What advantages ha

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Christian Montoya
> > Although you should remember that expressions don't work if the client has > scripting disabled; Christian's hack, though ugly to read, prevents one > tehcnology being dependant on another for correct operation. > > Just my tuppence, > > Nick. I was waiting for someone to say that. For all the

Re: [css-d] Layout - left and right column fluid and centre column fixed?

2005-11-29 Thread Christian Montoya
> > This won't work due to the requirement of a footer, unless the left and > right columns are always longer than the center one, which is absolutely > positioned. > > Zoe > I thought about that. I tried using relative instead of absolute positioning, but couldn't get that to work. Maybe just aut

Re: [css-d] Problems with CSS between Firefox and IE

2005-11-29 Thread Reynier Perez Mira
Thanks for your fast reply Zoe. I review all the entire CSS again and try to fix the problems you check me but I have some doubts. >The fieldset within your left nav, named divNavMainDraggable, is set to 400px >wide, but the left nav is only 130px wide minus 2em of padding. >IE is expanding t

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: > Although you should remember that expressions don't work if the > client has scripting disabled; Christian's hack, though ugly to read, > prevents one tehcnology being dependant on another for correct > operation. > > Just my tuppence, Yes, of course. I usually solve t

Re: [css-d] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Felix Miata
Christian Montoya wrote: > On 11/28/05, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree with you when regular crt displays are used, but things will > > change. People buy tft screens, with native 1280x1024 resolutions. > > Running in a lower resolution gives a distorted image so a lot will > > ke

Re: [css-d] Help my design team move away from nested tables

2005-11-29 Thread Paul Menard
Well okay sorry. I didn't anticipate this would be taken as literal. The entire page is not cutup as a Photoshop image. Only items like the masthead/header, navigation, logo, etc are provided in cutup form. We do not cutup the actual body text. Take a look at this page. http://dev.equalityforal

Re: [css-d] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Felix Miata
Christian Montoya wrote, and as usual, stripped attribution (which I restored): > Scott Hamm wrote: > > If em is the best method to set up CSS > for layout, it's not Or is, depending on the design requirements. > > then how can I add up the width to remain fluid like %? > You can't. EM widt

Re: [css-d] Old HTML guy takes a beating...

2005-11-29 Thread Ingo Chao
Just did a Opera9 (technical preview, built 8031, Win) test on my old inline-block testpage, and it now supports vertical-align for inline-block content correctly. Very nice. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __ css-di

[css-d] centering multiple columns?

2005-11-29 Thread Mauricio Giraldo Arteaga
hi is there a CSS way of generating this sort of behavior (for any number of columns): some text some text some text it would be similar to an align with "distribute horizontal centers" in some programs. any ideas? thanks - mga

Re: [css-d] Old HTML guy takes a beating...

2005-11-29 Thread Ingo Chao
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Now, have this method been tested for layout of whole pages? Since I rarely build whole pages, I can't answer if this is a good option. Hope this thread will be part of the test. The floats are in it by the OP for the dropshadow effect I am not lucky with. The floats sh

[css-d] background shift

2005-11-29 Thread rashantha de silva
i have a simple div with a fixed background image. the background is shifted to the left by about 130 pixels or so. what am i doing wrong? here is my css... DIV.content { position:absolute; left: 137px; top :76px; width: 403px; height: 700px; margi

Re: [css-d] Problems with CSS between Firefox and IE

2005-11-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Reynier Perez Mira wrote: >Well, finally I upload a test page in this adress: >http://testserver.webcindario.com/sample.html >When one of yours have a chance please take a look to this. I really lose my >mind trying to fix this errors between FF and IE but nothing works fine for >me. I do someth

Re: [css-d] Help my design team move away from nested tables

2005-11-29 Thread Paul Menard
Thanks for the reply Nick. Yeah. I agree it's sort of a strange situation. Our design team actually is allowed to do more CSS than the tech group I'm in. We just handle the PHP, ASP, CF and database integration parts. And of course given our client timelines there is never enough time to do it r

Re: [css-d] IE5/PC compatible liquid layout?

2005-11-29 Thread Martin Heiden
Christian, on Monday, November 28, 2005 at 20:23 Christian Heilmann wrote: > We are currently looking for the following: > - 3 columns, any column longest > - center column liquid width, side columns fixed > - center content first in the document > - header and footer spanning all three columns

Re: [css-d] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Scott Hamm wrote: >On 11/29/05, Zoe M. Gillenwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Scott Hamm wrote: >> >> >> >>>I've been asking around in webdesign mailing list for feedbacks and >>>learned a lot about em, % and accessibility in CSS part. I'm trying >>>to use % so I can add up to 100% an

Re: [css-d] Problems with CSS between Firefox and IE

2005-11-29 Thread Reynier Perez Mira
Well, finally I upload a test page in this adress: http://testserver.webcindario.com/sample.html When one of yours have a chance please take a look to this. I really lose my mind trying to fix this errors between FF and IE but nothing works fine for me. I do something wrong but not know what. Ki

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> Christian Montoya wrote: >> Are you guys saying you would prefer a javascript solution + invalid >> css to my pure css solution, which could be hidden behind conditional >> comments to eliminate hacks? >> >> http://christianmontoya.com/examples/float-contain.html > > Nothing wrong with your solu

Re: [css-d] Help my design team move away from nested tables

2005-11-29 Thread Mike Dougherty
If a page is composed entirely of a 'cut up' Photoshop image, what value is CSS? If the page is created and managed as a photoshop document, is there any useful presentation feature offered by CSS? There is no font control (sizing, face, etc.) there is no color control, there is no (real) ho

Re: [css-d] Old HTML guy takes a beating...

2005-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ingo Chao wrote: > Ingo Chao wrote: > http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/inlineblock/cards.html > > Allows for text-zoom and window resizing, I think, and wraps in > multiple rows(better than floats at least, but not without flaws). > Should work in IE5.5+, Opera8, Fx1.0.7-1.5RC3. Don't know what Op

Re: [css-d] Old HTML guy takes a beating...

2005-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ingo Chao wrote: > Ingo Chao wrote: > http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/inlineblock/cards.html > > Allows for text-zoom and window resizing, I think, and wraps in > multiple rows(better than floats at least, but not without flaws). > Should work in IE5.5+, Opera8, Fx1.0.7-1.5RC3. Don't know what Op

Re: [css-d] Layout - left and right column fluid and centre column fixed?

2005-11-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Christian Montoya wrote: >On 11/28/05, BH Joyner, Learning and Research Technology ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>I'm trying to do a 3 column layout. The left and right columns need to be >>fluid while the central column needs to be a fixed width (360px). The left >>and right hand columns ne

Re: [css-d] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Scott Hamm wrote: >I've been asking around in webdesign mailing list for feedbacks and >learned a lot about em, % and accessibility in CSS part. I'm trying >to use % so I can add up to 100% and I've been told that em is better >than % because of IE goof-ups. I've read in various CSS articles and

Re: [css-d] Navigation - multi level

2005-11-29 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Richard Brown wrote: >I am using the technique from here: > >and I thought that initially what would be shown is the upper menu and >the lower menu linked to item one on the upper menu. Then when you >clicked on item two in the upper menu

Re: [css-d] Help my design team move away from nested tables

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Wilsdon
Paul wrote: > If we want to produce good clean markup using CSS we have the basically rewrite much of the output from the design team. This seems like double work, Considering this is more a tool issue than the fault of the designers. What alternatives are there for this? This tool doesn't exist

Re: [css-d] Old HTML guy takes a beating...

2005-11-29 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao wrote: > Just to make sure I understand you: The boxes shall wrap in centred > "rows" like text when you resize the window or add more boxes? > Unfortunately, Browser support does not allow for easily wrapping block > level content - when the boxes are of different height, floats canno

Re: [css-d] Help my design team move away from nested tables

2005-11-29 Thread Tony Crockford
Paul Menard wrote: > Greeting all. > > When engaging a client my design team will for provide still image created > via Photoshop to the > client. Once the client accepts the design the design person will use Adobe > ImageReady to produce > HTML cut-ups. As you can guess the content of the pages

Re: [css-d] Float containment problem in IE/Win

2005-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christian Montoya wrote: > Are you guys saying you would prefer a javascript solution + invalid > css to my pure css solution, which could be hidden behind conditional > comments to eliminate hacks? > > http://christianmontoya.com/examples/float-contain.html Nothing wrong with your solution, bu

[css-d] Help my design team move away from nested tables

2005-11-29 Thread Paul Menard
Greeting all. When engaging a client my design team will for provide still image created via Photoshop to the client. Once the client accepts the design the design person will use Adobe ImageReady to produce HTML cut-ups. As you can guess the content of the pages is all nested table. If we want

[css-d] FF floating too far, over other elements

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Wilsdon
Hi, Still on this site :) I'm trying to float #content over to the left (and everything within it) - but it moves too far and covers up #menu (also float:left;). http://www.e3internet.com/clients/lenzone/shop/lenzonehome.htm This is just on FF 1.07 - not on version 1.5 What's very strange i

Re: [css-d] Old HTML guy takes a beating...

2005-11-29 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao wrote: > Just to make sure I understand you: The boxes shall wrap in centred > "rows" like text when you resize the window or add more boxes? > Unfortunately, Browser support does not allow for easily wrapping block > level content - when the boxes are of different height, floats canno

Re: [css-d] [css-d ADMIN Off Topic] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Bob Easton
We have wandered astray from the original question. To avoid veering further astray, into the dreaded / endless font size discussion, let's leave this one as it is. -- Bob Easton __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css

Re: [css-d] recomendation of 3column layouts

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> Do anybody know if Dreamweaver 8 has a kind of documentation of what > CSS that works . in that app.? > Rachel Andrews has a new book out on using Dreaweaver 8 to produce standards compliant XHTML and CSS sites. It's linked from her site:

Re: [css-d] gap between pageWrapper and columns

2005-11-29 Thread Erik Visser
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Erik Visser wrote: >> Erik Visser wrote: >> >>> The divison in 2 equal columns works alright. There's one drawback. >>> There's a gap between the header of the page and the two columns. >>> >>> markup: http://beta.bartbleijerveld.nl/ > > Add: > > .vnav {padding-top: 1px; m

Re: [css-d] recomendation of 3column layouts

2005-11-29 Thread Ben de Groot
Erland Flaten wrote: > Do anybody know if Dreamweaver 8 has a kind of documentation of what > CSS that works . in that app.? Looks like you're making it unnecessarily hard for yourself by insisting on using a broken app... Ben. __

Re: [css-d] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread Squibb, Brian
David is correct in that people with poor eyesight need higher resolution and then magnify the text. I have just had to write an app for viually impaired, and that is the way it is done. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of david Sent:

Re: [css-d] newbie - problem with CSS bullets not going away and others

2005-11-29 Thread Larry Israel
Hi Laura, > and for some reason, even if I copy the exact code in my file, it puts > bullets next to the list item entries even though the CSS > (list-style-type: none) says NOT to put the bullets.. > > I have posted my code at > http://ciswebs.smc.edu/cis51/greenwood_laura_lee/temp_nov/index4.htm

Re: [css-d] IE5/PC compatible liquid layout?

2005-11-29 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> We are currently looking for the following: > > - 3 columns, any column longest > - center column liquid width, side columns fixed > - center content first in the document > - header and footer spanning all three columns > - MSIE 5.0 compatible > > Is there such a thing? > > -- > Chris Heilmann

Re: [css-d] recomendation of 3column layouts

2005-11-29 Thread Erland Flaten
Thanks, looks like some ok things at P7. But what I look for is recomendation among http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts I tried the first on "One true.." which fails. It has an thing that makes the page go 3,3 lightyears down... I also tried http://www.redmelon.net/tstm

Re: [css-d] em or % in width

2005-11-29 Thread david
Christian Montoya wrote: > On 11/28/05, Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Quoted from Christian Montoya: >> >>>but considering that few users ever resize their text (as in nobody), >>>most visitors would never even notice the difference. >> >>I agree with you when regular crt displays are used