Re: [css-d] Width blowout in IE

2007-03-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mark Lundquist wrote: On Mar 7, 2007, at 1:53 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: [sufficiently-detailed explanation snipped...] Minor but important correction: it was an attempt on a 'description' - not an 'explanation'. I can't really 'explain' that IE bug - it's one of the really absurd[2] ones :-)

Re: [css-d] The width: expression(...) hack not working

2007-03-08 Thread Erik Visser
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: By the way, Jukka, to start a new thread, do not reply to an existing message. When you do this, your message gets threaded on to the old thread by the way: - is there a thunderbird extension to easily split such a thread? - or another way (messing with headers)

[css-d] 2 col liquid layout problem

2007-03-08 Thread Jason Peterman
Hi, I am new to css and css-discuss.org. I've worked through Eric Meyer's HOT CSS: Web site design book, and I'm trying to recreate a site I did in frontpage (www.ellmarriages.org). I found this article on 2 column layouts that was similar to the example used in the book. It addresses

[css-d] Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread Mike Breiding
I would like to be able to use a Header and a paragraph on the same line in this page: http://JuniorNatureCamp.org/staff/ Where there is an H5 such as: h5Jeff Altemus - Director/h5 I would like to add a paragraph such as pFirst and Second Week/p The result would be h5Jeff Altemus -

Re: [css-d] help! negative margins doesn't work on IE6

2007-03-08 Thread Erik Visser
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: I can't easily read text smaller than that on my screens. I design for 200% font-resizing, or 32px 'minimum font size', in case someone needs even larger text. You should try that. done! the whole thing is now a liquid layout. dropped all those pixels and changed it

Re: [css-d] Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Mike Breiding wrote: I would like to be able to use a Header and a paragraph on the same line in this page: http://JuniorNatureCamp.org/staff/ The use of heading markup is somewhat inconsistent there. Generally, h1 should be the main heading for the _page_ (not site),

Re: [css-d] help! -- frameless css conflict with pure css popups

2007-03-08 Thread Sophie Dennis
Hi Michael, Michael Venables wrote: Hi all, I've got a small site that uses CSS frames to create a fixed navigation sidebar, similar to the techniques discussed here: http://jessey.net/simon/articles/007.html http://underscorebleach.net/jotsheet/2004/12/frames-with-css-layout

Re: [css-d] FireFox CSS problem...

2007-03-08 Thread Matt Klein
Hi Ingo - Can you tell me how you were able to determine the MIME type was incorrect? Matt -Original Message- From: Ingo Chao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:42 PM To: Matt Klein Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] FireFox CSS problem...

Re: [css-d] Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread Austin Harris
Would h5Jeff Altemus - Director span class=notH5First and Second Week/span/h5 Not be better? - Michael Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about: pspan class=h5Jeff Altemus - Director/span First and Second Week/p I've been doing that for years, even before I knew how to really use

[css-d] How to stack divs

2007-03-08 Thread Phil Turner
I want to position a #header div over the top of a #shadow div they're in a fixed width #container div can someone tell me the right way to do this thanks Phil Turner FREELANCE CREATIVE [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.philturner-uk.com HELP SAVE THE PLANET http://www.yourplanetneedsyou.org

Re: [css-d] Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread James Leslie
I would like to be able to use a Header and a paragraph on the same line in Where there is an H5 such as: h5Jeff Altemus - Director/h5 I would like to add a paragraph such as pFirst and Second Week/p The result would be h5Jeff Altemus - Director/h5 pFirst and Second Weeek/h5

Re: [css-d] Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread Austin Harris
It doesn't validate though... Actually, I think in this case (if it is a proper H5 tag), I'd go with: ph5Jeff Altemus - Director/h5 First and Second week/p and *then* add display:inline to the H5. __ css-discuss

[css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread Alex Robinson
Actually, I think in this case (if it is a proper H5 tag), I'd go with: ph5Jeff Altemus - Director/h5 First and Second week/p and *then* add display:inline to the H5. etc, etc, etc I'm going to pass over the fact that some of these suggestions have been truly gruesome and move straight to

Re: [css-d] help! negative margins doesn't work on IE6

2007-03-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Erik Visser wrote: so there is: em-liquid ( no max / min width? ) - From the name/description: it is fixed to em and not liquid at all, but it is possible to add min / max width so the layout doesn't go completely crazy when subjected to a bit more extreme font resizing. em-fixed

[css-d] Vertical Scrollbar in IE ... Causes horizontal scrollbar

2007-03-08 Thread Beauchamp Michael J CONT NPRI
Hi, This is probably a FAQ but I can't find the answer... I have a problem in IE. I have body overflow set to auto. The width of the document is all percentage and never scrolls horizontally. However, there is usually a vertical scroll. The problem is that in IE, when the vertical scrollbar

Re: [css-d] 2 col liquid layout problem

2007-03-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jason Peterman wrote: HTML: www.ellmarriages.org/test.html CSS: www.ellmarriages.org/site.css I am having the following problems: 1. There is a gap between the columns and the footer when I view in Firefox and Safari. Use the same background on #container as you have on #content, so it

[css-d] different logo for a print.css version

2007-03-08 Thread kdavis
Hi all- I've been using css to style just text for a while now, and want to move to the next level and begin using it for layout. My site design has a logo in the upper left corner: http://www.lawrence.lib.ks.us/ That logo image (logo.gif) is on a dark blue background which works fine for the

Re: [css-d] FireFox CSS problem...

2007-03-08 Thread Ingo Chao
Matt Klein wrote: Hi Ingo - Can you tell me how you were able to determine the MIME type was incorrect? Matt The firebug extension complained about 2 errors. http://www.getfirebug.com/ The error console agreed. https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1815/ Ingo --

Re: [css-d] 2 col liquid layout problem

2007-03-08 Thread Jason Peterman
Use the same background on #container as you have on #content, so it appears as if the gap is gone. At the moment you have declared background twice on #container, so you should simply delete the second background-declaration. The gap will still be there, but - as with so many things in web

Re: [css-d] Relative newby needs help with IE6 rendering issues

2007-03-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Doug Waddell wrote: Hi folks, This is my first post, so please excuse me if these have been asked before. No problem. I'm co-developing a small web site with someone who wants to do it in all tables. I convinced him to go the css route, but am now experiencing troubles. I can already

Re: [css-d] 2 col liquid layout problem

2007-03-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jason Peterman wrote: I followed your suggestions, and the gap is gone in Firefox and Safari. IE6 unfortunately still has a gap though. Let me know if there is anymore I can do. Add... #footer {padding: 1px 0;} ...to contain the 'collapsing margin'[1] that is creating the gap. regards

Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread Michael Stevens
WOW! That's pretty tight administration... I haven't seen a response yet that didn't have something to do with CSS. There was my reply: pspan class=h5Jeff Altemus - Director/span First and Second Week/p Adding a span class is clearly CSS... There was Austin's reply: h5Jeff Altemus - Director

Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread Alex Robinson
At 10:02 -0700 8/3/07, Michael Stevens wrote: WOW! That's pretty tight administration... I haven't seen a response yet that didn't have something to do with CSS. I beg to differ. However, until Eric shows up and says I was wrong, right or something in between, can people please not leap into

[css-d] peekaboo bug in Safari?

2007-03-08 Thread Dave Pierce
I'm having a problem with Safari...first I've ever had. So far the other browsers are showing this page correctly...but In Safari, the picture and caption at the bottom left doesn't fully load. The W3 validators say the HTML passes, and the non-compliant IE hacks don't pass...but I really

Re: [css-d] different logo for a print.css version

2007-03-08 Thread Sophie Dennis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all- I've been using css to style just text for a while now, and want to move to the next level and begin using it for layout. My site design has a logo in the upper left corner: http://www.lawrence.lib.ks.us/ That logo image (logo.gif) is on a dark blue

Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 5:36 PM + 3/8/07, Alex Robinson wrote: I beg to differ. However, until Eric shows up and says I was wrong, right or something in between, can people please not leap into this thread. Okay, I'm here. Did I miss the finale? Sorry. So it's possible Alex overreacted, but then

Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread Mike Breiding
At 10:11 AM 3/8/2007 , Alex Robinson wrote: Please take this discussion off list or to another more general web discussion list. Thanks to everyone who replied. Please email me privately if you have further advise. -Mike __

[css-d] Wierd IE 6 position: relative with ghosting

2007-03-08 Thread Subscriptions
Hello everyone! I have been lurking on this list for almost two years, but I have yet to post a message. The problem I'm experiencing is weird enough for me that I want to get input from others. I have two fixed-size, relatively-positioned divs that align correctly; in IE6, however, there are

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Re: [css-d] media=print/css problems with IE7

2007-03-08 Thread Ingo Chao
Thought I share some findings on this bug. See a reduced testcase [1]. style type=text/css media=all #parent { position: relative; width: 750px; /* sets haslayout=true*/ } #child { float: left; } /style style type=text/css media=print #parent { width: auto; /* resets

Re: [css-d] media=print/css problems with IE7

2007-03-08 Thread Ingo Chao
(for example, a border on #parent presents only its border-top fragment). Since parent does not 'contain' the float anymore, the border behavior is not a bug, sorry. Forget about that sentence. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html

[css-d] aligning data in large tables

2007-03-08 Thread Rolf Mortenson
What is the optimal way to align data in a very large table? - let's say you've got a few thousand rows, and 10 columns, and you want data in 3 of those columns to be aligned right (the rest align left). Is it preferable to give each td in those columns a class -- td class=right? or is it

[css-d] Lining up text

2007-03-08 Thread wilsoncpu
This is from a complex example, so I'm using links to pics to describe the problem (if words are not enough). I have a data-editing table; prompt in the left column, input in the right column. If I need to give extra instructions on how to enter the data, or whatever, that text follows the

Re: [css-d] Wierd IE 6 position: relative with ghosting

2007-03-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Subscriptions wrote: http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/podcast/ After loading the page, simply press CTRL-A and you'll see the ghost rectangles on the left and on the bottom. They match up with the menu div on the left and the content div on the bottom. Looks kind of as expected from reading

Re: [css-d] aligning data in large tables

2007-03-08 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Mar 9, 2007, at 7:30 AM, Rolf Mortenson wrote: What is the optimal way to align data in a very large table? - let's say you've got a few thousand rows, and 10 columns, and you want data in 3 of those columns to be aligned right (the rest align left). Is it preferable to give each td in

[css-d] Boxed ullist

2007-03-08 Thread Pelle
Hi all! I KNOW i recently visited an page with several exaples making an h4 and ul list to became an small liten boxmeny, like the image on www.dummy.nu/sidemenu.gif Anyone that knows example like this? regards Pelle __

Re: [css-d] aligning data in large tables

2007-03-08 Thread Rolf Mortenson
td:first-child+td+td+td {text-align:right;} will select the 4th column in good browsers (including IE7). For IE 6, you need to use the col element. table colgroupcolcolcolcol class=alignRightcolcol/ colgroup col.alignRight {text-align:right;} Note that you have to put the 2

Re: [css-d] Lining up text

2007-03-08 Thread francky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: [...] I've tried divs and paragraphs and spans; inline and float:right, and I am absolutely sure it's obvious, but unfortunately not to me. [...] Any ideas? Hi Mark, Checkpoint 1: tabular data? Yes, so table allowed. ;-) First idea: isn't it possible to

Re: [css-d] Boxed ullist

2007-03-08 Thread francky
Pelle wrote: Hi all! I KNOW i recently visited an page with several exaples making an h4 and ul list to became an small liten boxmeny, like the image on www.dummy.nu/sidemenu.gif Anyone that knows example like this? regards Pelle

Re: [css-d] Boxed ullist

2007-03-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Pelle wrote: www.dummy.nu/sidemenu.gif Anyone that knows example like this? I use something similar to create form-like menus. For creating something like that image, the following should do as base... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/boxedmenu.html regards Georg --

Re: [css-d] Lining up text

2007-03-08 Thread david
francky wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: [...] I've tried divs and paragraphs and spans; inline and float:right, and I am absolutely sure it's obvious, but unfortunately not to me. [...] Any ideas? Hi Mark, Checkpoint 1: tabular data? Yes, so table allowed. ;-) First idea:

Re: [css-d] Margin Padding: Best Practices

2007-03-08 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:35:58 -0500, Spellacy, Michael wrote: Hi All, I was just wondering what the best practice is for handling default user-agent margin and padding? For more control over my layout I suppose I could set a universal selector to eliminate the default stuff (* {margin: 0;

Re: [css-d] Inline paragraph with headers

2007-03-08 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:04:14 -0500, Mike Breiding wrote: I would like to be able to use a Header and a paragraph on the same line in this page: http://JuniorNatureCamp.org/staff/ Well, the CSS property display: run-in; is supposed to do just that. Sadly, the only Windows browser I have seen

Re: [css-d] Lining up text

2007-03-08 Thread wilsoncpu
Yes, it's a table, but I didn't want to make a 3rd column for directions. Since the inputs are of various widths, the 2nd column would be as wide as the widest field, and therefore the directions would usually be off to the side rather than right next to the input field. Then, since these

Re: [css-d] Lining up text

2007-03-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's a table, but I didn't want to make a 3rd column for directions. Since the inputs are of various widths, the 2nd column would be as wide as the widest field, and therefore the directions would usually be off to the side rather than right next to the input

Re: [css-d] Lining up text

2007-03-08 Thread wilsoncpu
The problem is the page is inside a password-protected program. As I said, the current page _does_ use tables, and I can certainly stick another small table inside, but that seems messy. It's all within a TD element. Sample code (with line breaks added for clarity): tr class='odd' td

Re: [css-d] Boxed ullist

2007-03-08 Thread Pelle
Pelle wrote: I KNOW i recently visited an page with several exaples making an h4 and ul list to became an small liten boxmeny, like the image on www.dummy.nu/sidemenu.gif Anyone that knows example like this? * Listamatic http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/?

Re: [css-d] Boxed ullist

2007-03-08 Thread Pelle
Pelle wrote: www.dummy.nu/sidemenu.gif Anyone that knows example like this? For creating something like that image, the following should do as base... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/boxedmenu.html regards Georg Thanks georg, that's EXACT what i was looking for :D

[css-d] Holy Grail Layout - footer, padding and opacity issue

2007-03-08 Thread Richard Brown
Hi All I am using the Holy Grail layout here: http://alistapart.com/articles/holygrail The site is here: http://www.stwinnowceschool.info/ http://www.stwinnowceschool.info/wp-content/themes/school/style.css I have used their method for introducing a background colour but have removed the

Re: [css-d] Five column news styled site

2007-03-08 Thread Richard Brown
Hi On 08/03/07, david [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to be able to create a five column news site. This is a first for me and so I have gone to the layout gala and grabbed a three column fixed with design and then in the content column put three columns. See here: