Re: [css-d] Text Sizing and Div Height

2008-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Morse wrote: > How do I keep my divs the same height if the user resizes the text to > go beyond the min-height property? This looks perfect until the text > size gets too large then it all blows up: > > http://aan.einfosystems.net/blocks.htm Not sure if you got a satisfactory answer to t

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > discuss.org] On Behalf Of Nicholas Wilson > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:00 PM > To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org > Subject: Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c > compliant browsers? > >

Re: [css-d] CSS Background Image Not Wide Enough

2008-04-15 Thread Kepler Gelotte
> The width of the image is supposed to total 760 pixels > (180px for the dark gray column, 20 px blank, then 560px for the > light gray column). Hi, I think you calculated your width incorrectly. Try 780px: body { font-family:'Lucida Grande',Verdana,sans-serif; font-size:80%; margin:10px; w

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread David Laakso
1/ Regarding Conditional Comments, see: Microsoft Developer Network 2/ Regarding using Conditional Comments to feed hacks to IE, see: On havingLayout (scroll down a little to: "Alternatively, and possibly more future proof, are condi

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Nicholas Wilson
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 1:09 am John Griessen wrote: > Thierry Koblentz wrote: > > What about a simple: > > > > > > This short one looks good... As I understand this, it goes in default.css, > so what else besides css code would you want to put here? > > John Griessen > css newbie building his

[css-d] CSS Background Image Not Wide Enough

2008-04-15 Thread Carol Huddleston
Thank you all very much for your help with my background image, I've now got it displaying on the page. Now for my next problem: I am trying to use the background image as a faux column. The width of the image is supposed to total 760 pixels (180px for the dark gray column, 20 px blank, then

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Bill Brown
John Griessen wrote: > Thierry Koblentz wrote: >> > This short one looks good... As I understand this, it goes in default.css, > so what else besides css code > would you want to put here? John: Wrong! It does NOT go in default.css. It is an HTML comment tag...so it goes in your HTML source.

Re: [css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:46 PM, Lensco wrote: > In the meantime I updated the testcase and added screenshots for > IE7, FF3 > and Opera: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ > > Safari seems to add some extra 'padding' to the containing boxes, > while > Opera doesn't. As far as I can tell, Oper

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread John Griessen
Thierry Koblentz wrote: > What about a simple: > > This short one looks good... As I understand this, it goes in default.css, so what else besides css code would you want to put here? John Griessen css newbie building his own selling web site. -- Ecosensory Austin TX

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Nicholas Wilson
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 12:58 am Thierry Koblentz wrote: > What about a simple: > > > > > Or am I totally missing something here? > > Could be me ;) But then every browser would ignore it, which is presumably not what you want. Nicholas ___

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > discuss.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brown > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:27 PM > To: Manfred Staudinger > Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org; John Griessen > Subject: Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css

Re: [css-d] Blog menu overlapping header

2008-04-15 Thread Bill Brown
> How it happened: I added the Wordpress plugin WP Admin Bar Reloaded to > my blog, adding a little bit of code to style.css and to header.php, > as instructed > athttp://onemansblog.com/2007/04/08/wordpress-plugin-wp-admin-bar-reloaded/ > > That created the mess. Therefore, I removed the plu

Re: [css-d] Text Sizing and Div Height

2008-04-15 Thread Bill Brown
Chris Morse wrote: [snip] > How do I keep my divs the same height if the user resizes the text to go > beyond the min-height property? [snip] > http://aan.einfosystems.net/blocks.htm [snip] > And I have a feeling that it doesn't look right in IE6 even with the default > text size. (It is a real pa

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Bill Brown
Manfred Staudinger wrote: > On 15/04/2008, Bill Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You can use this syntax to target all NON-MSIE browsers: >> >> @import url("css/fix/non_msie.css"); >> > > Thats definitely an unnecessary hack. The correct (although > proprietary) syntax would be: > > > c

[css-d] Blog menu overlapping header

2008-04-15 Thread Bambi Vincent
Hello everyone, I'm very new at this. My site is Thiefhunters in Paradise, http://bobarno.com/thiefhunters . You'll see right away that the top menu now overlaps the header image. I don't know where else to start looking to fix it. The header.php and style.css file seem fine, but I'm not goo

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Manfred Staudinger
On 15/04/2008, Bill Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can use this syntax to target all NON-MSIE browsers: > > @import url("css/fix/non_msie.css"); > Thats definitely an unnecessary hack. The correct (although proprietary) syntax would be: css here Regards, Manfred ___

Re: [css-d] IE6 & IE7 together [was: Text Sizing and Div Height]

2008-04-15 Thread Alan K Baker
Chris. You can run IE6 and IE7 and a few others side-by-side, I'm doing it right now. :-) See: http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE Regards, Alan. www.theatreorgans.co.uk www.virtualtheatreorgans.com Admin: ConnArtistes, UKShopsmiths, 2nd Touch & A-P groups Shopsmith 520 + bits Flatulus Antiqu

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Manfred Staudinger
On 15/04/2008, John Griessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manfred Staudinger wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > If you want to select IE6 and IE7, but not IE8 nor IE5.5 or IE5.01 > > then you might use > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > very helpful. Looks like you just put this in line with your stds

Re: [css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-15 Thread Jack Timmons
I meant one of two things, in this case the likely candidate being "B". Sometimes I forget to express the full idea when I'm doing a quick site check amongst my own projects. -Jack Timmons On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Brian Ogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not true the image does ex

[css-d] Text Sizing and Div Height

2008-04-15 Thread Chris Morse
Hello All, How do I keep my divs the same height if the user resizes the text to go beyond the min-height property? This looks perfect until the text size gets too large then it all blows up: http://aan.einfosystems.net/blocks.htm And I have a feeling that it doesn't look right in IE6 even with

Re: [css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-15 Thread Brian Ogden
This is not true the image does exist and showing up on my browser at the following url: http://home.comcast.net/~prairiedream/beginning/images/faux.gif On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Jack Timmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > C

Re: [css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-15 Thread neal
instead of css-d@lists.css-discuss.org #container { background:url(/images/faux.gif) repeat-y; } try this: #container { background:url(../images/faux.gif) repeat-y; } ~Neal life is certain death is short ~furry lewis

Re: [css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-15 Thread Ingo Chao
Carol Huddleston wrote: > ..., > http://home.comcast.net/~prairiedream/beginning/faux.html > ... > My problem right now is that the background image isn't showing at > all. I have faux.gif in a folder titled "images" like this: > > /beginning/images/faux.gif > > I also tried it like this: /ima

Re: [css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-15 Thread Jack Timmons
Carol, On hand, my browser is unable to find the image, which is telling me two things: A: You haven't uploaded the image B: You are referencing the image incorrectly. I tried going straight to see if I could look in the directory, but it's disabled. -Jack Timmons On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:32

[css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-15 Thread Carol Huddleston
I'm still going through the "Beginning CSS Web Development" book. I have two problems, but I have to get the first one answered before I can go on to the second one. I am working through an exercise that uses a background image with a repeat-y to create faux columns. Here is the page: http:

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread Bill Brown
> I have a restructuredtext generated site that now looks as intended in > firefox, but not in the IE > that is installed with Win2K. IE seems to ignore the css positioning of a > list and an image hyperlink. > > http://ecosensory.com/ Hi John, You can use this syntax to target all NON-MSIE b

[css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-15 Thread John Griessen
David Laakso wrote: > You have height:1%; on the below selector. You may (?) want to feed > that only to IE/6, as compliant browsers might do better without it at > +2 font-scaling. > .p5 { > height: 1%; > } I have a restructuredtext generated site that now looks as intended in firefox, b

[css-d] IE table-layout bug? (Was: IE table column width)

2008-04-15 Thread Manfred Staudinger
I have posted this before, but could not find anything in the meantime: IE6 and IE7 seem to add any horizontal padding for to the width for the element. Test case: http://test.rudolphina.org/col-width.html Questions: - Is IE 6, IE 7 in accordance with the specification or is it a bug? - How does

Re: [css-d] Full-height left column in fluid layout.

2008-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ingo wrote: >> > It sometimes stops to dynamically resize (stays small) in your > favourite browser (9.27 win xp). You mean vertically? The "lose 100% height initially" (or what one should call it) bug? Can't check in any browser on winXP n

Re: [css-d] Single floated list with forced row clear in IE

2008-04-15 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Timothy Kelty wrote: > Example here: http://geniuscar.com/old/tests/iefloat.html > > I just have a single UL with all the LIs all floated left. I want to > be able to force a second row at a given point in the list, so I > applied a clear:left to first element I w

Re: [css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Alan Gresley
Lensco wrote: >>> My opinion: Safari is the most consistent - although it adds some >>> extra padding for no reason? >> Could you clarify that ? > > In the meantime I updated the testcase and added screenshots for IE7, FF3 > and Opera: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ > > Safari seems to ad

[css-d] Single floated list with forced row clear in IE

2008-04-15 Thread Timothy Kelty
Having trouble with this one... Example here: http://geniuscar.com/old/tests/iefloat.html I just have a single UL with all the LIs all floated left. I want to be able to force a second row at a given point in the list, so I applied a clear:left to first element I want in the 2nd row. This behav

Re: [css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Alan Gresley
Lensco wrote: > Hello guys & girls, new to this list. > > Observe: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ > Short story: a right float within a left float looks different in > Safari compared to Firefox and IE. So, who is right here? Is there a > way to get them to behave the same? Fixed widths are

Re: [css-d] Full-height left column in fluid layout.

2008-04-15 Thread Ingo
Gunlaug Sørtun schrieb am 15.04.2008 15:10 > > > It's a pretty versatile method. It sometimes stops to dynamically resize (stays small) in your favourite browser (9.27 win xp). Greetings, Ingo _

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: IE 6 / CSS Zen Garden Project

2008-04-15 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Thanks for your feedback but I'm gonna have to probably remove it altogether. I actually placed it in there thinking I had a haslayout bug but, it turns out it was a file call to a .htc file to handle transparency in IE6 - something I wasn't supposed to do being that the challenge is not to touch t

Re: [css-d] DTD- from ccs-d Vol 65, Issue 17

2008-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Doreen Cowan wrote: > Could David / or someone / explain to me how the original DTD > (strict) put the file into quirksmode and why the second one > (transitional) corrects the problem ...or.. Perhaps someone can > direct me to a tutorial that will help me to understand. The former was a pile

Re: [css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Lensco
>> My opinion: Safari is the most consistent - although it adds some >> extra padding for no reason? > > Could you clarify that ? In the meantime I updated the testcase and added screenshots for IE7, FF3 and Opera: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ Safari seems to add some extra 'padding' to

[css-d] DTD- from ccs-d Vol 65, Issue 17

2008-04-15 Thread Doreen Cowan
I'm not sure if this is the correct place for my question but here goes... The other day David was helping Keith with a coding problem and he recommended the following " re: /Part/ of the difficulty may be that the file is in quirksmode. Delete this: http://www.w3

Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 65, Issue 20

2008-04-15 Thread christianz
This has been an excellent thing for me to learn in my greenhorn-hood.. As I adjust my pages to work with this new combined style sheet, I'm adding "id="index" to every instance of my tags; my "space after" design employs a paragraph's worth of text paragraph's worth of text, so ever

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: IE 6 / CSS Zen Garden Project

2008-04-15 Thread David Laakso
Elli Vizcaino wrote: > > >>> http://e7flux.com/csszengarden/chaoticspring.html >>> >>> You have height:1%; on the below selector. You may (?) want to feed that only to IE/6, as compliant browsers might do better without it at +2 font-scaling. .p5 { height: 1%; } __

Re: [css-d] Full-height left column in fluid layout.

2008-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Grevers wrote: > Since the footer has a child it was easiest to fake the left column > by giving the child the same left margin and moving the background. That's easier than stacking, yes. >> Also a number of contradicting styles in your page, which makes it >> less cooperative. I don't

Re: [css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Lensco wrote: > Observe: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ > Short story: a right float within a left float looks different in > Safari compared to Firefox and IE. So, who is right here? Is there a > way to get them to behave the same? Fixed widths are not an option

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: IE 6 / CSS Zen Garden Project

2008-04-15 Thread Elli Vizcaino
Thanks. I'm using a PNG file in the background and had a .htc file call in the HTML which I removed, so now the transparency doesn't show in IE6 - the .htc file was causing it not to layout right. I will resort to using a different image file format for the reasons mentioned as well as the fact, th

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please: IE 6 / CSS Zen Garden Project

2008-04-15 Thread Valerie Wininger
In IE6 the layout is fine, but instead of a drop shadow behind the container div, I see a solid gray border. You can see a screen shot here: http://valeriewininger.com/css_list/ssCssZenGarden.jpg Valerie www.valeriewininger.com On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Alan K Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [css-d] Full-height left column in fluid layout.

2008-04-15 Thread Richard Grevers
On 4/15/08, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Grevers wrote: > >> Having had problems with onetruelayout before, I tried Gunlaug's > >> companion column example. > > > FYI: "companion column" is not mine. It's Ingo Chao's (linked to from my > site). > I stand corrected. (Sorry

[css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-15 Thread Lensco
Hello guys & girls, new to this list. Observe: http://lensco.be/test/nested_floats/ Short story: a right float within a left float looks different in Safari compared to Firefox and IE. So, who is right here? Is there a way to get them to behave the same? Fixed widths are not an option. My opinion

Re: [css-d] wrapping woes - paras containing preformatted phrases - IE7

2008-04-15 Thread Trevor Nicholls
Following on from the previous post, I should probably put up an example to show why I am not using pre-wrap instead of pre. These two examples illustrate: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tmjpbn/prefprew.html http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tmjpbn/prefprew1.html The prefprew version has div.fragment

Re: [css-d] when are 2 external css called for?

2008-04-15 Thread david
Bill Brown wrote: > John wrote: > [snip] > > This has been an excellent thing for me to learn in my > > greenhorn-hood.. > > > > As I adjust my pages to work with this new combined style sheet, I'm > > adding "id="index" to every instance of my tags; my "space > > after" design employs a pa

[css-d] wrapping woes - paras containing preformatted phrases - IE7

2008-04-15 Thread Trevor Nicholls
Hello Scattered liberally throughout my webpages one will find pieces of application code which have been marked up as . The preformatted class is used for code which may occupy a single word, or may extend over several lines. For this reason carriage returns and whitespace in these spans need to

Re: [css-d] Full-height left column in fluid layout.

2008-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Grevers wrote: >> Having had problems with onetruelayout before, I tried Gunlaug's >> companion column example. FYI: "companion column" is not mine. It's Ingo Chao's (linked to from my site). >> > But I still have the problem of the gap (