Re: [css-d] Firefox wont align content in a table properly -- SAFARI issue

2010-06-02 Thread Peter Bradley
Ar 02/06/10 04:47, ysgrifennodd Matthew : > > Is this the "how dare you make so many HTML/CSS violations and still seek our > knowledge?!?!11?" missive? > > Well, in my opinion, no. If your code does not validate it may well be that that is the cause of your problem. It's certainly the fir

Re: [css-d] Firefox wont align content in a table properly -- SAFARI issue

2010-06-02 Thread David Hucklesby
On 6/1/10 8:47 PM, Matthew wrote: > > On Jun 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > [code etc. snipped] >> >> Dunno, I would start with this: >> >> >> >> >>

Re: [css-d] Firefox wont align content in a table properly -- SAFARI issue

2010-06-02 Thread Bill Braun
Matthew wrote: > Is this the "how dare you make so many HTML/CSS violations and still > seek our knowledge?!?!11?" missive? > If so, sorry for wasting your time. If not, please help me understand why my > site doesn't work in Safari. Your message does nothing to help! Thanks! > > The eternal CSS

Re: [css-d] Firefox wont align content in a table properly --SAFARI issue

2010-06-02 Thread JWN
Morning Mathew You wrote - Original Message - >>> but in Safari, this makes the content in the table appear too far to the left. In Safari this must be set to 16px. >>> >>> If you have Safari and can check out: http://em-w.com/resume.html >>> >>> you'll see what I mean. Does anyone have a

Re: [css-d] Firefox wont align content in a table properly -- SAFARI issue

2010-06-02 Thread russ
This is very good advice. I spent about 4 hours last week trying to get a site to behave. It just didn't make any sense that it wasn't working. Finally, I decided to validate the site. There was nothing wrong with the CSS, but there was a missing character in my HTML that was not caught by the

[css-d] windows display problems with drop downs

2010-06-02 Thread Liz Butler
http://newsite.herb-pharm.com/shopping/shopping/19/online-store.html http://newsite.herb-pharm.com/products/products/18/our-products.html - there seems to be a display problem with the main menu with firefox on windows, but not ie (at least the version i am able to see). the menu items are no

Re: [css-d] Firefox wont align content in a table properly -- SAFARI issue

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew
I apologize to Philippe and the rest of board for sounding petty, snarky and defensive in my last message from last night. I'm frustrated and I came off as such. I do appreciate the help. - Matthew On Jun 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Alan Gresley wrote: > Matthew wrote: >> On Jun 1, 2010, at 7:56

[css-d] Chrome background image bug?

2010-06-02 Thread Rachel Mawhood
Hi list This new page has two background images, one in the body and one (a logo) in a div called #outerwall (ie the wrapper). http://www.st-alfege.org/friends-of-the-park/ Chrome seems to compute the position of the logo differently from other browsers and puts it about 90 pixels too far to t

Re: [css-d] Chrome background image bug?

2010-06-02 Thread Rachel Mawhood
It was Chrome on a Mac - will ask about the version/OS and report back. Rachel At 17:55 02/06/2010, Jack Timmons wrote: >On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Rachel Mawhood > wrote: > > Hi list > >What version of Chrome? > >In 5.0 and Firefox latest (I don't like to keep it open), they look the same.

Re: [css-d] windows display problems with drop downs

2010-06-02 Thread David Laakso
Liz Butler wrote: > http://newsite.herb-pharm.com/shopping/shopping/19/online-store.html > > http://newsite.herb-pharm.com/products/products/18/our-products.html > > - there seems to be a display problem with the main menu with firefox on > windows Its okay in Mac FF. In Windows: Open Firefox

Re: [css-d] windows display problems with drop downs

2010-06-02 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Liz Butler wrote: >> http://newsite.herb-pharm.com/shopping/shopping/19/online-store.html >> >> http://newsite.herb-pharm.com/products/products/18/our-products.html >> >> - there seems to be a display problem with the main menu with firefox on >> windows It looks to me (without looking into

[css-d] Background question...

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Beaudoin
Thanks to all for the help, but this one is escaping me... I have the following div's: header header copy left nav here main content here and I would like a background behind the content area, but when I put it in the page-wrap, it won't show behind the leftN

Re: [css-d] Background question...

2010-06-02 Thread Rachel Mawhood
Have you made leftNav and the main areas transparent? background-color: transparent; Rachel At 19:56 02/06/2010, Michael Beaudoin wrote: >Thanks to all for the help, but this one is escaping me... > >I have the following div's: > > > > header > header copy > > > left nav here

Re: [css-d] Background question...

2010-06-02 Thread Peter Bradley
Ar 02/06/10 19:56, ysgrifennodd Michael Beaudoin : > Thanks to all for the help, but this one is escaping me... > > I have the following div's: > > > >header >header copy > > >left nav here > main content here > > > > and I would like a background behind

Re: [css-d] Background question...

2010-06-02 Thread Alan Gresley
Michael Beaudoin wrote: > Thanks to all for the help, but this one is escaping me... > > I have the following div's: > > > > header > header copy > > > left nav here > main content here > > > > and I would like a background behind the content area, but when I p

Re: [css-d] Background question...

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Beaudoin
> At 19:56 02/06/2010, Michael Beaudoin wrote: >> Thanks to all for the help, but this one is escaping me... >> >> I have the following div's: >> >> >> >> header >> header copy >> >> >> left nav here >>main content here >> >> >> >> and I would like a background behind th

Re: [css-d] Chrome background image bug?

2010-06-02 Thread David Laakso
Rachel Mawhood wrote: > Hi list > > This new page has two background images, one in the body and one (a > logo) in a div called #outerwall (ie the wrapper). > > http://www.st-alfege.org/friends-of-the-park/ > > Chrome seems to compute the position of the logo differently from > other browsers and

Re: [css-d] Chrome background image bug?

2010-06-02 Thread Rachel Mawhood
>This will approximately position the image; however, it is not a solution. Thank you - I'll try that substitution - >A "real" solution would mean re-examining your layout. There is a >pixel width set on the body, and the wrappers are set in em >widths. There is a pixel width set on the body,

Re: [css-d] Chrome background image bug?

2010-06-02 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Rachel Mawhood wrote: ... > I have wondered about mixing up ems and pixels - before css, one > didn't mix up pixels and percentages when laying out a page - but I > have seen other web sites where ems and pixels are used together for > layout. Should one stick to one or the

Re: [css-d] Chrome background image bug?

2010-06-02 Thread Rachel Mawhood
>I would set everything (except possibly image sizes) in percentages. I must say, I would rather do this. But a page width that looks just as I want it to look at 90 per cent wide on 1024 might not look nice at 1152. For instance, if this web page was stretched wider, then the righthand edge

Re: [css-d] Chrome background image bug?

2010-06-02 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Rachel Mawhood wrote: > > > I would set everything (except possibly image sizes) in percentages. > > I must say, I would rather do this. But a page width that looks just as I > want it to look at 90 per cent wide on 1024 might not look nice at 1152. You don't know what 10

[css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew P. Johnson
If you toggle between http://www.applegateelements.com/contact.shtml and http://www.applegateelements.com/agreement.shtml why does the navigation shift? Interesting. Matthew P. Johnson | Eco I.T. 320 Warwick Avenue Oakland CA 94610 | 415.254.1563 | e

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Theresa Mesa
Because the contact page doesn't have a vertical scrollbar on the right, but the agreement page does. The whole page is jogging, not just the navigation. And actually, the contact page seems to be *stretching*, along with the jogging. Your HTML still has a few errors. I can't get your CSS page

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> If you toggle between > > > > http://www.applegateelements.com/contact.shtml > > > > and > > > > http://www.applegateelements.com/agreement.shtml > > > > why does the navigation shift? Because of the scrollbar that shows up when there is content below the fold. To force a gutter, yo

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Matthew P. Johnson wrote: > If you toggle between > > http://www.applegateelements.com/contact.shtml > > and > > http://www.applegateelements.com/agreement.shtml > > why does the navigation shift? Because one page has a vertical scroll bar and the other doesn't

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew P. Johnson
How can I find out how to validate the css? Matthew P. Johnson | Eco I.T. 320 Warwick Avenue Oakland CA 94610 | 415.254.1563 | ecoitsf.com  Please consider the environment before printing this email. -Original Message- From: Theresa Mesa [mailto:trixiesirishe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednes

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew P. Johnson
Interesting. I will have to play with this... I wonder why I am getting a scroll bar... Matthew P. Johnson | Eco I.T. 320 Warwick Avenue Oakland CA 94610 | 415.254.1563 | ecoitsf.com  Please consider the environment before printing this email. -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lis

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Theresa Mesa
I'm stumped. I rarely run into this issue. On Jun 2, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Matthew P. Johnson wrote: > How can I find out how to validate the css? > > Matthew P. Johnson | Eco I.T. > 320 Warwick Avenue Oakland CA 94610 | 415.254.1563 | ecoitsf.com >  Please consider the environment before printing

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Claude Needham
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Theresa Mesa wrote: > Because the contact page doesn't have a vertical scrollbar on the right, but > the agreement page does. The whole page is jogging, not just the navigation. > And actually, the contact page seems to be *stretching*, along with the > jogging.

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew P. Johnson
Header: Correct. This is just temporary graphic... I noticed the vertical scroll is causing the issue on pages where there is content that exceeded the vertical screen. So do I have to give all the pages a vertical scroll bar to obtain consistency in the nav? Sincerely, Matthew P. Johnson |

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Theresa Mesa
That's what I do. On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Matthew P. Johnson wrote: > Header: Correct. This is just temporary graphic... > > I noticed the vertical scroll is causing the issue on pages where there is > content that exceeded the vertical screen. > > So do I have to give all the pages a ver

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew P. Johnson
Interesting. Seems inefficient. Is there another way to stabilize the nav? BTW I am trying to get the backend of the site correct then I will focus on making it pretty. :0) Matthew P. Johnson | Eco I.T. 320 Warwick Avenue Oakland CA 94610 | 415.254.1563 | ecoitsf.com  Please consider the enviro

Re: [css-d] interesting nav issue - please help :)

2010-06-02 Thread Theresa Mesa
How is it inefficient to add html {height: 100.1%} to your CSS, which immediately applies this to all pages without so much as a how-do-you-do (since you are using an external style sheet)? To me, if you like the aesthetics of not having the nav jump back and forth horizontally, it seems like th