Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread David Laakso
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Eric wrote: > David, > So shall we go into more detail on the REM and other relative units or move > on to the next topic? > Eric Neither. As for myself, I plan on taking in a good movie... Best, David Laakso -- Chelsea Creek Studio http://ccstudi.com ___

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 25 janv. 2013 à 14:04, Eric a écrit : > What does that have to do with developing an understanding of relative units > in > CSS? > > But, since you insist on changing the topic (which is usually done by those > who > don't understand the topic) let me just say….what the hell does it matter

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Eric
Hi Phillip, You ran Andy Clarke's site through the validator instead of trying to understand how the REM unit (the thread's topic) is used in CSS?! All I can say is that that's just a bit sad. Instead of trying to learn something your first action is to try to discredit the example I posted?! Wel

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Eric
David, > Nevertheless, the site -- as previously stated -- has issues [crashing > the browser and a massive horizontal-scroll bar at +1] in > Android/2.3.6. What does that have to do with developing an understanding of relative units in CSS? But, since you insist on changing the topic (which is

Re: [css-d] Responsive navigation menu as in Wordpress

2013-01-24 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 25 janv. 2013 à 01:22, Koen van der Drift a écrit : > I am looking to transfer a navigation list into a menu that many > Wordpress pages have on a small screen. Not sure where to start, > though, any suggestions? Everybody seems to suggest those menu solutions. I personally find those ho

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Eric A. Meyer
This is probably a good point to drop the validation discussion, since the usual points have been made and to continue would take the thread even further off-topic. In general, "the pros and cons of validation" is one of those never-resolvable wars that I don't want to see consume the list

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > Tom Livingston wrote: > > > I am not arguing your point, but merely try to say (poorly) that the > errors the validator is flagging may not break the page. > > Of course : I hope I did not appear to suggest otherwise. > > Neither validit

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Tom Livingston wrote: > I am not arguing your point, but merely try to say (poorly) that the errors > the validator is flagging may not break the page. Of course : I hope I did not appear to suggest otherwise. Neither validity nor invalidity offer any guarantees of behaviour, but a page that

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > Tom Livingston wrote: > > > My point exactly. It's throwing an error, but for something that the > validator just doesn't understand and flags but is considered > > by most to be "OK" to have in the styles. > > > > Unless you are in the

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Tom Livingston wrote: > My point exactly. It's throwing an error, but for something that the > validator just doesn't understand and flags but is considered > by most to be "OK" to have in the styles. > > Unless you are in the camp of "no vendor prefixes ever" and the like... No,I am in the

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > Tom Livingston wrote: > > > Looking through the validator output, i'd *guess* that the errors were > things that the "...experimental feature: HTML5 Conformance > > Checker" doesn't understand, such as vendor prefixes etc. > > [snip] >

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Philip TAYLOR
David Laakso wrote: > Nevertheless, the site -- as previously stated -- has issues [crashing > the browser and a massive horizontal-scroll bar at +1] in > Android/2.3.6. "Crashing the browser" asserts a causal relationahip that has not been demonstrated to exist. If a browser crashes, the brow

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread David Laakso
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Eric wrote: > I would assume the Andy checked his design and code on all available devices > since he's an industry leader in advocating such testing. Eric, re: stuffandnonsense. Nevertheless, the site -- as previously stated

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Tom Livingston wrote: > Looking through the validator output, i'd *guess* that the errors were things > that the "...experimental feature: HTML5 Conformance > Checker" doesn't understand, such as vendor prefixes etc. In its HTML 5 mode, the validator is indeed an imperfect tool, but in general

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Tom Livingston
Looking through the validator output, i'd *guess* that the errors were things that the "...experimental feature: HTML5 Conformance Checker" doesn't understand, such as vendor prefixes etc. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: > > > Eric wrote: > > > I would assume the Andy chec

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Eric wrote: > I would assume the Andy checked his design and code on all available devices > since he's an industry leader in advocating such testing. "Testing can reveal only the presence of bugs, not their absence". (Edsger Diskstra). All the checking in the world is a waste of time if he d

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Eric
Hello David, I would assume the Andy checked his design and code on all available devices since he's an industry leader in advocating such testing. I have no idea what's going on with your Android device, but if I were to diagnose the issue I'd start there. Besides, if what you describe has someth

Re: [css-d] Responsive navigation menu as in Wordpress

2013-01-24 Thread Tony Lush
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Re: [css-d] Responsive navigation menu as in Wordpress

2013-01-24 Thread Greg Gamble
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Re: [css-d] Responsive navigation menu as in Wordpress

2013-01-24 Thread Koen van der Drift
No, what I mean does not have that type of menu. The 'hongkiat' tutorial that Hakan posted is more what I had in mind. - Koen. On Jan 24, 2013, at 12:04, Tom Livingston wrote: > This? > > http://tinynav.viljamis.com/ > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Koen van der Drift > wrote: >> T

Re: [css-d] Responsive navigation menu as in Wordpress

2013-01-24 Thread Tom Livingston
This? http://tinynav.viljamis.com/ On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Koen van der Drift < koenvanderdr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the pointers. I should have mentioned it is not for a WP page > :-) > > - Koen. > > On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:35, Hakan Kirkan wrote: > > > Here is a tutorial >

Re: [css-d] Responsive navigation menu as in Wordpress

2013-01-24 Thread Koen van der Drift
Thanks for the pointers. I should have mentioned it is not for a WP page :-) - Koen. On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:35, Hakan Kirkan wrote: > Here is a tutorial > > http://speckyboy.com/2012/08/29/10-responsive-navigation-solutions-and-tutorials/ > > and a plug in for WP > http://wordpress.org/exten

Re: [css-d] Responsive navigation menu as in Wordpress

2013-01-24 Thread Hakan Kirkan
Tutorial http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/responsive-web-nav/ and for WP mobile http://maxfoundry.com/blog/responsive-mobile-navigation-in-wordpress/ On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Hakan Kirkan wrote: > Here is a tutorial > > > http://speckyboy.com/2012/08/29/10-responsive-navigation-solutions-a

Re: [css-d] Responsive navigation menu as in Wordpress

2013-01-24 Thread Hakan Kirkan
Here is a tutorial http://speckyboy.com/2012/08/29/10-responsive-navigation-solutions-and-tutorials/ and a plug in for WP http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/responsive-select-menu/ Hakan KIRKAN IT Manager http://miamirealestateinc.com Miami/ FL On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Koen van der D

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Tom Livingston
Perhaps a kind tweet or email to him (via contact links in the footer of his site) might be helpful? I'm pretty sure Mr. Clarke isn't on this list. At least not using his real name. I've never seen him post. He is, however, "pro enough" in my book. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Philip TAYLOR

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread Philip TAYLOR
David Laakso wrote: > re: "Stuff & Nonsense" > > Yes, very nice. Thanks. > > Shame that it is impossible to navigate the site in Android/2.3.6 > [tapping the unicode symbol for navigation crashes the site, sending > the user back to the phones desktop]; and

Re: [css-d] New Thread: The REM unit vs. EM's vs. PX's...

2013-01-24 Thread David Laakso
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Eric wrote: > Since I'm still in the process of getting to 'Pro" level I can point you to > a tree Pro's site if you're interested in see how the REM unit is used: Is > Andy Clarke 'pro' enough for you? > His calls his site "Stuff & Nonsense" I'm sure you know th