Re: [css-d] proper way to kill text decoration on link?

John wrote: I have this for my basic links: a { color: #111311; border-bottom: 1px dotted #000; margin: 0 0 0 0; padding-bottom: 1px; text-decoration: none; } a:hover, a:focus, a:active { color: #8c; } and I want to keep it, but I also nee

Re: [css-d] Text Size Smaller Than CSS Indicates?

PL wrote: My client has a number of property pages. I have just added flash slide shows to the banner area. I did not change anything in the CSS to do this and the CSS remains the same for all property pages as before. However, on one page, the text appears to have changed to a smaller font

[css-d] Fit to width

I am looking for a technique that will allow me to generate a , the width of which is the width of its widest non-shrinkable immediate child element; the DIV will always be floated. For example, consider the following : http://...";> Now is the time for a

Re: [css-d] My website doesn't display in IE

Karl Bedingfield wrote: Well I cleaned up the validation a little. As far as I can see the other code is auto-generated and beyond my control. I still think there is a CSS issue I am missing. Just don't know what. Well, that's quite possible : W3C CSS Validator results for http://static.

Re: [css-d] My website doesn't display in IE

Karl Bedingfield wrote: Now it may be that I have spent too many hours at the laptop but for some reason my new Tumblr theme design just does not show in IE. All I get is the background and no content. My site displays just fine in Chrome and Firefox. Can anyone see what might be causing this

Re: [css-d] I must be a moron, How to reply to messages

Felix Miata wrote: > Linux distros are free to package extensions or not as they see fit. Apparently David's doesn't and yours does, or David's using neither Linux nor an extension that provides it. Is there any evidence to suggest that "Reply to list" functionality is offered only via an ex

[css-d] [Off-topic] Pointer to analogous list sought (event handling)

Could some kind soul suggest to which list questions concerning event handling are best directed (in the context of web pages, image maps, and onmouseover/out) ? Many thanks in advance : Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.

Re: [css-d] how to get rid of space between background images that are repeating vertically

URL or URI ? Angela French wrote: I have a background image that repeats vertically. The weird thing is though, that it is rendering with a small space between each one. Can someone tell me what property I might try to get rid of that? Or why it is doing that? Angela French Internet Speciali

Re: [css-d] Query on P:First-letter

Jukka K. Korpela wrote: Since you already have markup like Many of us it would seem natural to put the initial letter in a classed span, making it trivial to refer to it in CSS. Assuming, of course, that you can affect the markup. Yes, I can indeed; I was just trying to avoid overt marku

Re: [css-d] Query on P:First-letter

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > Have you tested this in anything beside a Gecko browser ? To be honest, no. I develop using solely Seamonkey, and only when the site renders successfully in that do I look to see how it might render in other browsers. > See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.

[css-d] Query on P:First-letter

Could anyone explain why the leading "M" of the following paragraph : Many of us are lucky enough to take anaesthesia for granted. Surely a world without safe anaesthesia has long been confined to the history books ?  Not in the developing world, where hospitals lack suitable equipment,

Re: [css-d] Drop Down Menu On Hover Testing Please - IE 7

Elli Vizcaino wrote: > No one is giving me any insights into this sub menu "hanging" issue I got > feedback on. Or has it magically corrected itself after I made the other > adjustments. Another look would be greatly appreciated :) No comments on this, since I can't see it, but there is on

Re: [css-d] Drop Down Menu On Hover Testing Please - IE 7

Elli Vizcaino wrote: > > Seamonkey? Umm that doesn't sound like a very popular browser. What > machine/OS do you have? Pentium 4-based PC running Windows/XP Professional; SP3. Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-dis

Re: [css-d] Drop Down Menu On Hover Testing Please - IE 7

Elli Vizcaino wrote: > Hello, > > > I am unable to test functional behavior cross browser because I have to rely > on browser shot services to do my testing. I would greatly appreciate it, if > a number of you would take a look at this site http://e7flux.com/dfd/ and > hover on the word "Abou

Re: [css-d] Mysterious Div

Tom Livingston wrote: > Link? > Nancy Timper wrote: >> DUH. >> >> http://www.datecreekranch.com >> >> thanks __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http:/

Re: [css-d] Hidden HRs

Tomasz Borek wrote: > What actually puzzles me is why would that site creator have different > classes (char1, char2, ...) for characters in each letter in "Cowpoke's". > Including the '. > > The only styling he uses is margin-right, like: > > h1 .char2 { /* try also char5 and char8 */ >

Re: [css-d] CSS Organization

mem wrote: > Let's suppose that by looking to those wireframes, I can say that all my h2 > will have a padding-bottom of 10px. > However, if later on, I create a rule telling that the ul will have a margin > top of 5px... (because almost all may have that attribute) if I place the h2 > on top

[css-d] Off-topic : h1 replacement -- which one is recommended?

Scott Hamm wrote: > I've been looking all over websites -- a lot of good h1 replacement > suggestions. But which one is more practical, validated in all aspects i.e. > bobby approved, html5, etc? is HTML, not CSS, but that said, why might anyone want to replace it ? Philip Taylor ___

[css-d] Off-topic : was IE6 (was can style sheets be too long?)

bruce.som...@web.de wrote: >> My current employer - and the previous employer - use IE6 as their >> official corporate browser. The reason the current employer uses it? >> High end mission critical enterprise web apps that work only with IE6. >> Replacing the apps would cost millions of dollars o

Re: [css-d] stretch one div vertically in three column layout

David Laakso wrote: > For those among us who suffer from short-term-memory-loss and/or don't have > time to look it up: > --what is your url? > --what versions of IE do you need to hit? I can confirm that http://adif.sk/testversion/index.html, viewed in Internet Explorer V7 on Windows/XP, look

Re: [css-d] Hidden HRs

Chetan Crasta wrote: > Using Firebug, this is what I found: > > The "two" lines is actually a bottom border on the h1. The p element is > relatively positioned to overlap the bottom part of the h1. A background > color is set on the p to prevent the border from being seen over the > letters. Cle

Re: [css-d] Seeking Selector Functioning Like a Backwards Adjacent Sibling Selector

Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > 18.8.2011 8:40, Rick Gordon wrote: >> I'm just wondering how I might approach addressing a tag that appears just >> before another tag, lick the tag that would immediately precede an . >> The adjacent sibling selector p > h1 would give me access to the attributes >

Re: [css-d] DIVs referring to each other, and absolute positioning

ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline) is intended to convey I have no idea -- it did not come from this end. ---- Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > > > Keith Purtell wrote: > >> I've removed most of the ugly blankness o

Re: [css-d] DIVs referring to each other, and absolute positioning

Keith Purtell wrote: > I've removed most of the ugly blankness of my splash page, but two > technical problems remain. ... > http://www.keithpurtell.com/kthings/ Keith, do you have any idea why the "T" is so badly (over)kerned in "CONTACT" ? It is very tight in "OTHER" and "AUTHORS", but just

Re: [css-d] parse error on *html

Tom Livingston wrote: > Though I'm rusty on *HTML hacks- havent used one in years - > the validator is a tool, not law. If you know that is correct > and need it for a fix, then it's fine. With respect, the validator is more likely to know if something is "correct" than a mere human; I would

Re: [css-d] [OT] Why no HTML

FWIW, I think that Ghodmode has every right to ask why HTML e-mails are prohibited on this list, even though I personally rejoice that they are. I also appreciate the non-confrontational way in which he has presented his views and responded to the view of others. However. In my e-mail client (S

Re: [css-d] Logo in a div

Brian M. Curran wrote: > Why does www.seobook.com put his logo in a div? It seems like its' only > purpose is to hold the code class="logo". Wouldn't it have been easier to > put the class="logo" in the img tag like how I did on my site: > www.draftingservices.com ? Well, clearly I don't /know

Re: [css-d] Recreating the Facebook layout

Felix Miata wrote: I don't remember being able to notice any differences between Lucida Grande and Lucida Sans Unicode on any machine I had both installed on, though I've not checked in a while. OTOH, you probably won't find Grande on any system that doesn't have Safari installed unless you

Re: [css-d] Separating DIVs vertically

Alan Gresley wrote: It is really do with block flow direction. http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-writing-modes/#text-flow | The block flow direction is the direction in which | block-level boxes stack and the direction in which | line boxes stack within a block container. The | ‘writing-mo

Re: [css-d] Separating DIVs vertically

Barney Carroll wrote: Keith, By default. block-level elements occupy the full available width, thus any following block-level elements can only appear directly below. I am unconvinced of this explanation. At http://web-consultants.org.uk/sites/tests/Block-level-elements/DIVs.html

Re: [css-d] OT : The Readable Web

Discussion taken off-list. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Suppo

[css-d] OT : The Readable Web

Barney Carroll wrote: The Readable Web blog is almost my single point of reference for the latest on font-face. If it's supposed to be "The Readable Web", why does it eschew both accepted conventions [1] for indicating the start of a new paragraph, and rely solely on the last line of the previ

Re: [css-d] @font-face and IE browsers....

karla porter wrote: correct me if I'm wrong - but Google web fonts don't require the @font-face code. I've never had to insert that. Only the following code needs to be placed at the beginning of theelement... ~Karla Porter ArcherCreative Well, if I try that for (say) "Droid Sans", this

Re: [css-d] Z-index demo

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On May 6, 2011, at 4:13 AM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: My mouse was over the lower central image, which resolutely refused to come to the foreground until I moved my mouse away from all three images. When I move from the rightmost to the ce

Re: [css-d] Z-index demo

Does not work for me, Gabriele : Seamonkey 2.0.14, Win/XP;SP3. https://picasaweb.google.com/Chaa006/ScreenCaptures?authkey=Gv1sRgCPLV3Kvwm6zA5QE#5603311437556736210 My mouse was over the lower central image, which resolutely refused to come to the foreground until I moved my mouse away

Re: [css-d] Using CSS to control width of page.

John D wrote: You will only succeed in wasting your time because it is not useful anymore. Delphi will be more useful if you want to learn something new. Responded to off-list. Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css

Re: [css-d] Using CSS to control width of page.

Lesley Lutomski wrote: > You've missed the semi-colon after "width: > 800px" - I don't know if that might be causing problems in whichever > browser you're using. It's not missing, it is omitted; as in Algol-68, semi-colon is a separator in CSS, not a terminator. Philip Taylor ___

Re: [css-d] Reflection effect

Ingo Chao wrote: Some hate the effect [1], therefore, it is decoration. Some hate "coz", "gonna" and "'fess up", but they are still (sadly) only too often a part of the content :-( Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.

Re: [css-d] CSS Problems in IE 9?

David Laakso wrote: Long-shot: write and upload an .htaccess file Isn't .htaccess Apache-specific ? From the original message : > On 4/13/11 7:20 PM, Richard Wendrock Forum wrote: >> http://www.PineMillRanch.com/Index.asp I would expect the use of IIS. Philip Taylor

Re: [css-d] Side-Header Image Problem in IE 6, 7 - Solved

Andrew C. Johnston wrote: Thanks Philip once again, pulling out the solved the problem, in combination with your earlier advice about the comment code. Really appreciate your assistance, I could never have figured it out by myself. You're very welcome, Andrew. Before considering reinstatin

Re: [css-d] Side-Header Image Problem in IE 6, 7

Andrew C. Johnston wrote: New link here: http://www.rayxi.com/index.php?id=197 But, it still seems to have the same problem is ie. Are these, in combination, not likely to be the source of the problem ? which together give you (approximately speaking) > Philip Taylor __

Re: [css-d] Side-Header Image Problem in IE 6, 7

Andrew C. Johnston wrote: When the site was converted, I hacked out one piece of code, which served to allow the header image to effectively span the entire width of the browser, improving the look tremendously in my view, but causing errors in ie: The site now validates, and I went back to

Re: [css-d] Experiment: CSS post it note

Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: Beware of trying to fit text into a fixed-size container: For an example that works with any font size, see . (I have just started to redo my site, so there not much there besides the first page.) I don't know ho

Re: [css-d] Centering Horizonal Navigation with Drop Downs

John D wrote: Have you seen this article before: Let us know if this is what you were looking for. The drop-down for the fourth element is very strangely positioned : http://web-consultants.org.uk/sites/tests/css/Fullscr

Re: [css-d] Experiment: CSS post it note

What has happened to some of the text on the yellow "Post-it" (R), Gabriele ? http://web-consultants.org.uk/sites/tests/css/Fullscreen capture 07-Apr-2011 183056.jpg Philip Taylor Gabriele Romanato wrote: I've often asked myself: 'ok, we can rotate boxes with CSS3, but what t

Re: [css-d] Rule of Thumb For Naming Classes/IDs?

Markus Ernst wrote: I could imagine a hypothetic Web application that generates class names from any other information, which may start with a digit. Thus class names may not even be known at coding time. In that case, escaping all digits might be a valuable alternative. Far simpler would be

Re: [css-d] Rule of Thumb For Naming Classes/IDs?

Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > It will take me some time to decide by looking at the formal > parts of the specification whether Alan is correct in his assertion; > perhaps others more familiar with the formal syntax can save > time by answering and/or pointing

Re: [css-d] Rule of Thumb For Naming Classes/IDs?

Alan Gresley wrote: The answer is no. Isn't the css2.1 spec clear enough ? This is not correct. You can begin ID and class selectors with numbers. The only thing is that they must be encoded properly with characters escapes (the above spe

Re: [css-d] Erratum

Alan Gresley wrote: With this statement, "the inability of browser vendors to comply with W3C specifications." I can assure that the total reverse is true. The greatest change regarding CSS is the extensive work in re-writing various parts of the CSS2.1 specs to match current browser behavi

Re: [css-d] Erratum

HallMarc Websites wrote: Vive la difference! First, I must disagree in the usage of "inability"; I don't believe that is the reason they produce the product in the manner they do. I believe it is, more likely, due to their vision and how they want the product to interpret what we write. For t

Re: [css-d] Rule of Thumb For Naming Classes/IDs?

Barney Carroll wrote: The line between philosophy& politics blurs! If it works, I'll do it. If it doesn't I won't. The question is ideological and we could debate it for yonks. Ultimately, I believe posters come here for practical advice. If they were looking for the spec, a bot could do a be

[css-d] Erratum

Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Surely the goal is to write fully conformant documents that render reliably (if not necessarily consistently) in all mainstream browsers; if the alternative is to write non- conformant documents in order to pander to the inability of browser vendo

Re: [css-d] Rule of Thumb For Naming Classes/IDs?

Barney Carroll wrote: Popularity can be a fallacious indicator, but so can authority over the specification. Practice is the only sure indicator. Only if you believe in anarchy, surely ? Following W3 spec to the letter is fairly limiting, since in practice browser implementations differ (f

Re: [css-d] Rule of Thumb For Naming Classes/IDs?

Barney Carroll wrote: Hiya Elli, On 30 March 2011 15:49, Elli Vizcaino wrote: I forget what the rules are for naming classes and IDs This question was answered very succinctly on stackoverflow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/448981/what-characters-are-valid-in-css-class-names#answer-4

Re: [css-d] Esoteric IE6 filter-related issues

Barney Carroll wrote: I realise these are highly esoteric bugs that aren't part of the CSS canon, and not being able to show the broken stuff (NDAs, sorry) doesn't help Since, almost by definition, you don't need the real content during your development phase, can you not replace all copy by

Re: [css-d] new IE display question

Doesn't just happen in IE. In Seamonkey at my preferred settings, only the first seven fit. Ctrl + and Ctrl - wreak further havoc. Philip Taylor Rory Bernstein wrote: http://motherloadshow.com/ I'm back with another question about this same page. The main nav bar: I am just using a

Re: [css-d] ie display problem

IE7 : Problems with this web page might prevent it from being displayed properly or functioning properly. Line 64, Char 9, Error : Object required. Line 9, Char 3894, Error : 'null' is null or not an object. Corkboard, and corresponding verso blank : displaced vertically downwards by their full

Re: [css-d] Ignore white-space between inline and/or inline-block elements in WebKit

Jarek Foksa wrote: Is there a CSS vendor extension in WebKit that would allow me to explicitely specify whether whitespace between elements should be preserved or not? This may seem an odd question, but why would you want a solution that will work in only one family of browsers ? Philip Tay

Re: [css-d] s now a legitimate presentational device for layout according to W3C

Bobby Jack wrote: It's just a shame that some of the big players ( google, facebook) are so resolute in their old, bad habits, that the W3C now feels under pressure to legitimise those habits. Well, well, there's a surprise : Google use tables for layout, and the editor of the HTML 5 specif

Re: [css-d] [Off-topic] Stop supporting IE 6 and 7

Gabriele Romanato wrote: If you continue to support IE 7 and lower, malware creators will be very grateful to you. You make them life easier and help them to go on with infecting people's computers or stealing their credentials or identities. This is total nonsense. The "you" at the start of

Re: [css-d] Styling an XML table (plus a question)

David Laakso wrote: Dunno [I know from nothing]. But I am curious why the page throws an horizontal scroll bar? document { display: block; width: 100%; margin: 8px; ... } Philip Taylor -- Not sent from my i-Pad, i-Phone, Blackberry, Blueberry, or any such similar poseurs' toy, non

Re: [css-d] letter spacing difference (FF vs. Safari)

Charles Miller wrote: >> I did : I was just too shocked to comment, given that you had >> suggested it was overkerned. Remember, please, Goudy's aphorism. > Might that be: First do no harm.:-) > > I'll look earlier in the thread for the actual aphorism. > Look no further : A man who woul

Re: [css-d] letter spacing difference (FF vs. Safari)

Charles Miller wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > >> But that shews no evidence at all of overtight letter fit >> (in my browser, at my preferred settings, at least). Can >> you send a screenshot of how it appea

Re: [css-d] letter spacing difference (FF vs. Safari)

Here is how I see it, by the way : https://picasaweb.google.com/Chaa006/ScreenCaptures?authkey=Gv1sRgCPLV3Kvwm6zA5QE#5580238912279306258 ** P. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mail

Re: [css-d] letter spacing difference (FF vs. Safari)

Charles Miller wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > >> Charles Miller wrote: >> >>> But the letterfit (there's that word again) of body text in the WordPress site I inherited and am reworking, is with no l

Re: [css-d] letter spacing difference (FF vs. Safari)

Charles Miller wrote: But the letterfit (there's that word again) of body text in the WordPress site I inherited and am reworking, is with no letter-spacing simply too tight. (I doubt that the font designer wanted it to look that way.) Could we see this site, so we can judge for ourselves

Re: [css-d] Is styling the html element à bad idea?

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Older UA didn't allow the styling of the root element () What does it mean to "not allow" in this context, Philippe ? To crash, to issue a warning, to ignore, or some other possibility ? Philip Taylor -- Not sent from my i-Pad, i-Phone, Blackberry, Blueberry, or

Re: [css-d] forcing the same height for neighbouring divs

Gergely Buday wrote: Hi there, I would like to have the same height of background for two neighbouring divs at http://www.math.bme.hu/~gergoe/ For the upper part I was able to set explicit height but for the lower this is not possible as the text can be variable size. On irc I got http://co

Re: [css-d] browser check

Matthew P. Johnson wrote: Oh man what browser/os is this? It does not look right at all. Any browser that supports "minimum font size", I would imagine. Philip Taylor -- Not sent from my i-Pad, i-Phone, Blackberry, Blueberry, or any such similar poseurs' toy, none of which would I be seen d

Re: [css-d] New to the list and a question..

Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: If the code is not valid, you cannot predict how the page will be displayed. Fixing it may solve your problem. Quite correct. Invalid HTML may *be* the issue. You cannot know until you have fixed it. Also correct. The number of error shown may be misleading. O

Re: [css-d] Design question regarding columns and containers

David Laakso wrote: I have no idea of what the future may require but this a well-written and entertaining article worthy of consideration... e.marcotte: responsive web-design One does not wish to be picky (well, not unreasonably s

Re: [css-d] Drop-down navigation without javascript

David Laakso wrote: I think TJK's drop-down may meet your requirement... Script-free modern browsers / keyboard-friendly Bearing in mind that the title of the thread is "... /without javascript/", I am somewhat c

Re: [css-d] Positioning a float

Bobby Jack wrote: I'm working on a layout that requires text to wrap around a positioned image. In my case, I need an image in the bottom-right of a box, with text inside the box. So I need the in-flow, wrapping properties of a float combined with the positioning properties of an absolutely

Re: [css-d] Fwd: Re: Vendor-specific extensions: warnings, not errors

Sorry, attached message was lost in transit. Repeated below. Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: This is possibly relevant to Nancy's more recent query : Philip and David, If it were a snake... fantastic, I didn't know that had been added. So in checking this out - what

[css-d] Fwd: Re: Vendor-specific extensions: warnings, not errors

This is possibly relevant to Nancy's more recent query : Philip and David, If it were a snake... fantastic, I didn't know that had been added. So in checking this out - what limits does it have? Are vendor prefixes supported like Webkit etc? Thanks, Nancy Philip Taylor

Re: [css-d] CSS validators

Isn't that : More options / Profile / CSS level 3 ? Philip Taylor Nancy Seeger wrote: Hi All, Maybe I'm being premature here but I really enjoy using some of the CSS3 techniques, of course making sure things degrade gracefully. Mostly using RGBA with a backup hex, shadow boxes, bord

Re: [css-d] HTML5 and CSS3

Alan Gresley wrote: I guess this HTML5 movement will just sit well with the current movement of poor coding practices. I guess I show some of the cynicism of Philip (Ret.). :-) Welcome aboard, Alan :-) -- Not sent from my i-Pad, i-Phone, Blackberry, Blueberry, or any such similar poseurs' to

Re: [css-d] HTML5 and CSS3

Barney Carroll wrote: [long snip] So while I sympathise with your reticence as to the shallow-minded, naive, obscurantist hype surrounding 'HTML5', the HTML5 spec has given me all sorts of wonderful stuff I'm not about to dismiss… Fine, all understood, end of thread-digression :-) ** Phil.

[css-d] HTML5 and CSS3

Barney Carroll wrote: Philip, there is no reason at all to adopt it [HTML5] Stop being so cynical. Cynical, Barney ? No, just realistic. What about these awesome badges/t-shirts? http://www.w3.org/html/logo/ No comment needed. ? And the fact that CSS3 is now part of HTML5? What does

Re: [css-d] br { content: '\A'; white-space: pre; } in Webkit

Ingo Chao wrote: HTML5:Rendering:Punctuation and decorations says br { content: '\A'; white-space: pre; } But this doesn't seem to work in Safari and Chrome: http://www.satzansatz.de/w3/break.html Who is wrong? Neither ? HTML 5 was, the last time I looked, simply "work in progress"; th

Re: [css-d] Check of family tree layout

Overshoots visible at intersection of "up" and "right" lines in Seamonkey V2.0.11 @ 1152 x 864 dpi; screen- shot available on request. Philip Taylor Alan Gresley wrote: Hello, After quite a few years with working with this family tree layout, I believe I have accidentally added the cor

Re: [css-d] [test]: CSS and the HTML5 video element

Gabriele Romanato wrote: It took a little bit to find a good converter from FLV to OGV, but finally I did it! The video is 27 mb in size, so you have to be a little bit patient :-) Results are encouraging, especially for future CSS3 enhancements: Seamonkey 2.0.11 under Win/XP PRO;SP3 Partia

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > And even if you wrap them inside an inner element, Font Finder > reports ASCII as being in use for the inner element, even though the > element contains no character representable in the font. Argh : a potentially useful tool, perhaps, but by no means a perfect one.

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

Ulrike Eikermann wrote: Here is another Firefox Addon (Font Finder), which lets you click on elements and tells you the font being rendered. Also it allows you disable font families, which is useful when testing font stacks. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4415/ What happens

Re: [css-d] [Test]: Positioning an object element

Gabriele Romanato wrote: Don't get me wrong but ... What is the percentage of use of Seamonkey? ;-) Philip, as a rule of thumb, you should always test in major league browsers, like IE, Firefox, Opera, Safari and Chrome. Of course, it /could/ be something to with the following, and nothing t

Re: [css-d] [Test]: Positioning an object element

Gabriele Romanato wrote: > Don't get me wrong but ... What is the percentage of use of Seamonkey? ;-) No idea, but it's all I ever use. I might, if it were particularly important, test against a recent IE & Firefox, but to be absolutely honest, I don't care what things look like in the last t

Re: [css-d] [Test]: Positioning an object element

Gabriele Romanato wrote: Hi. A couple of days ago a user posted here a message about and positioning. I've created a test page and a brief description that I think it may be helpful for future use cases: http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2011/01/css-positioning-object-element.html As you can s

Re: [css-d] form/ul layout weird in IE

Rich M wrote: Hi, I've revamped some forms in my application, but the display is unexpected in IE8 / Windows 7 for me. I assume it's equally weird on other OS and probably IE versions. Would that be : https://www.moremagicpoints.com/ ? If so, Seamonkey doesn't like its certificate

Re: [css-d] what font is being called?

Rory Bernstein wrote: When I have a series of fonts being called in a font-family rule, how do I know which one is the one being chosen? You don't, unless JavaScript can tell you (see below). On this page: http://mcgivney.ehclients.com/locations/ The font should be the Titillium for the

Re: [css-d] @fontface

Did both you and Rob reduce the window width to < 400px as suggested ? Strange things happen when you do that in Seamonkey 2.0.11 under Win/XP;SP3 @ 1152 x 864 Philip Taylor Chetan Crasta wrote: On my computer (ubuntu), there was absolutely no styling of any element on the page. It mig

Re: [css-d] Helping css-d members to get their best from CSS

Gabriele Romanato wrote: Hi all. After my last post and all the responses that came after that, I first decided to unsubscribe from css-d, but later I'm back again. Very emotional, very Italian! Welcome back, Gabriele :-) And to add to your list of essentials, please do not forget C

Re: [css-d] HTML, CSS, JavaScript: Model-View-Controller

Kevin A. Cameron wrote: To be honest this 'discussion' on the merits of this post was a far greater waste of time than the post in question! :P With respect, I disagree. Whilst Gabriele's weblog citations were initially interesting, of late they have been coming so frequently that I was clo

Re: [css-d] google hosted font question

Rory Bernstein wrote: Ah. I see the light. OK, I just uploaded the OTF files. Can I now assume that this font will show for most users? Thank you so much for this help, Rory Trailer looks really horrible in Seamonkey 2.0.11 under Windows/XP;SP3 at 1152 x 864, and "3" in page numbers looks s

Re: [css-d] google hosted font question

smallvoiceshout...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, titillium in those two instances. Wouldn't expect it to be different but checked in Safari (win), Chrome, Opera, IE 7,8 and it's present in all. Bill -- Hi, I downloaded and installed Seamonkey 2.02 (Windows). Why not? :) One reason would be because

Re: [css-d] unable to over ride an li

Thierry Koblentz wrote: #mainmenu ul li#last #donations {font-size:1.24em;} What is "immediately clear" to you in that rule? That within an element of ID "mainmenu" will occur a ; within that, there will occur an of ID "last"; and somewhere within that will occur an element of ID "donation

Re: [css-d] unable to over ride an li

Thierry Koblentz wrote: Well-written css code means *lean* selectors so a well written styles sheet should need more comments than a badly written one, isn't?. With respect, I disagree : you are choosing to interpret "well-written" as "efficient"; I interpret "well-written" as "transparent",

Re: [css-d] unable to over ride an li

Thierry Koblentz wrote: Imho, using element#id to increase the weight of a rule makes sense, but not when it is used as a hint to help us read and understand rules. I'd think /*comments*/ are better suited for that. I'm afraid I can't agree with that, Thierry : comments indicate only the cod

Re: [css-d] google hosted font question

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > In general, the fonts I've used did/do look pretty good on all Windows OS Do have you have some sample pages that I can compare with the Newton offering, Philippe ? Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [

Re: [css-d] google hosted font question

Chetan Crasta wrote: The issues described by Phillip are due to Windows' horrible rendering of @font-face embedded fonts. Windows XP, Vista and 7 do not correctly apply font smoothing to embedded fonts. The issue affects all browsers on the windows platform. Do you have a citation for this,

Re: [css-d] W3C CSS Validation Service

Alan Gresley wrote: Then this is what feedback you can give. Take this string. svg {opacity:0.5} The report back is. Property opacity doesn't exist in CSS level 2.1 but exists in : 0.5 0.5 A little over a week ago, it did say "but exists in CSS level 3" Fine, so we agree : the validator

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