Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Barney Carroll
> you may do better to contact your browser vendor directly and ask them to investigate the rendering issues you have reported I'm wondering how differently my career might have worked out if all those times IE came up I'd just told the client to get onto Bill Gates about it. Maybe I'm just a suck

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Philip Taylor
Barney Carroll wrote: This begs the question: how much should one expound on browsers that one is unfamiliar with, in general? One should not expound on them at all : one should simply state "Our HTML and CSS are W3C-compliant and W3C-validated, and, as far as we are aware, render correctl

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Barney Carroll
Yeah, the impression I get it is that they're not really concerned about CSS validity. They do care about HTML validity, though – they use an automated validation reporter (no more having to open email, scan email for URL, paste URL into validator, copy link into email reply, hit send) for their is

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Philip Taylor
Barney Carroll wrote: Bootstrap's pragmatic approach deems validity not to be a concern: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/6398 I am afraid that "mdo" does not understand the concept of validity. He (or she) writes : All the CSS we use is valid, and while some lines are hacks (* fo

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread MiB
7 okt 2014 kl. 10:16 skrev Barney Carroll : > The specifics in Bootstrap's CSS are legacy IE hacks > and vendor-prefixed CSS3. Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water. Those are irrelevant errors that you can ignore as you know you’re using vendor-prefixes and IE hacks. That’s not what I

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Barney Carroll
Bootstrap's pragmatic approach deems validity not to be a concern: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/6398 In theory, total W3 compliance will make your code behave completely predictably in any environment you care to mention. In practice, popular browsers have deviated from the spec time

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-06 Thread Bob Schwartz
Going back to the original “tangent”… Philip did raise a valid point. A site should validate and validation is also a great way to catch the “silly mistakes” we introduce form copying/pasting, typing etc. However, in this age of building sites with bootstrap, jquery plugins we find to help res

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-06 Thread MiB
okt 6 2014 20:20 Barney Carroll : > So 'validate your markup', as much as it may be good advice, wouldn't have > caught this particular fish. In fact, I might assert that 'validate your > markup' hasn't taught us anything with regards to this particular problem. > The reason people come to this l

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-06 Thread Barney Carroll
Going back to the original problem for a second, the fish in question is making the links on Bob's site work on touch-enabled devices. To catch the fish, I opened the provided URL in Chrome on my laptop with the DOM inspector open. The links worked as expected by default, but when I enabled device

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-06 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
So in other words. Philip is teaching to fish. Not just giving you a fish. Kudos Philip! Best, Karl Sent from losPhone > On Oct 6, 2014, at 5:07 AM, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > > > Barney Carroll wrote: > >> CSS discuss often reminds me of my doctor, to whom I'll often go with >> queries

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-06 Thread Philip Taylor
Barney Carroll wrote: CSS discuss often reminds me of my doctor, to whom I'll often go with queries about an acute injury and come away with advice to stop smoking – wise & well-intentioned, but somewhat short of the assumed benefits in seeking expert advice for a specific problem. But your

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-06 Thread Barney Carroll
CSS discuss often reminds me of my doctor, to whom I'll often go with queries about an acute injury and come away with advice to stop smoking – wise & well-intentioned, but somewhat short of the assumed benefits in seeking expert advice for a specific problem. Bob, your problem is down to Javascri

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-06 Thread Philip Taylor
Bob Schwartz wrote: > Validation fixed, but still not working. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.dlp-distribution.fr/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/li

[css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-06 Thread Bob Schwartz
Validation fixed, but still not working. Bob Schwartz __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-disc

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-06 Thread Philip Taylor
Bob Schwartz wrote: I’m going slightly mad. On a site: http://www.dlp-distribution.fr http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.dlp-distribution.fr/ __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org

[css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-06 Thread Bob Schwartz
I’m going slightly mad. On a site: http://www.dlp-distribution.fr below the carousel on the home page are four blue boxes with icon-like images in them. If you touch (or hover with the mouse on a computer) one of these some text slides in. At the bottom of the text is a link (decoverez) which