[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] RELIGION AND SECRECY IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION

2004-09-24 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directi

[CTRL] Religion & Ethics Newsweekly: WEB EXCLUSIVE: The Moral War Against Iraq - September 13, 2002

2002-12-20 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week602/juergensmeyer.html THE MORAL WAR AGAINST IRAQ by Mark Juergensmeyer The punch line came at the end. Prior to that, President George W. Bush's speech to the United Nations on Iraq seemed almost restrained. It was, to a large exten

[CTRL] Religion of Peace? Prove it.

2002-12-07 Thread Tenorlove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-Caveat Lector- Religion of Peace? Prove it. Jonah Goldberg If every German I meet or see is a Nazi, it's reasonable for me to say all Germans are Nazis. It may not be true, of course, but having no evidence indicating otherwise it's certainly understandable that I would draw that conclusi

Re: [CTRL] Religion & The Brain

2001-07-14 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Andrew Hennessey wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > yeah, yeah but none of that materialism rationally explains remote data > gathered during out of body experiences in distances far beyond the 5 senses > operating in the locality of the body. > we all have an eternal soul - get used

Re: [CTRL] Religion & The Brain

2001-06-19 Thread tenebroust
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:45 > PM > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Religion & The > Brain > -Caveat Lector-I fail to see the controversy in this > issue, it seems to me that there is no way to determine w

Re: [CTRL] Religion & The Brain

2001-06-19 Thread tenebroust
nspiritual, which it does. > > > There's no such thing as spiritual. And you can't demonstrate that there is. > All you are describing, is the goings on of the normal and abnormal brain. > > J2 > > >> - Original Message - >From: tenebroust >

Re: [CTRL] Religion & The Brain

2001-06-19 Thread Nurev Ind.
demonstrate that there is. All you are describing, is the goings on of the normal and abnormal brain. J2 >> - Original Message - From: tenebroust To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Religion & The Brain

Re: [CTRL] Religion & The Brain

2001-06-19 Thread Foxter
D] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Religion & The Brain -Caveat Lector-I fail to see the controversy in this issue, it seems to me that there is no way to determine which came first God or the brain which thinks of him.  Religious experience is also a ve

Re: [CTRL] Religion & The Brain

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- I fail to see the controversy in this issue, it seems to me that there is no way to determine which came first God or the brain which thinks of him. Religious experience is also a very personal thing and is experienced markedly differently between any two people and thus will

Re: [CTRL] Religion & The Brain

2001-06-18 Thread Andrew Hennessey
-Caveat Lector- yeah, yeah but none of that materialism rationally explains remote data gathered during out of body experiences in distances far beyond the 5 senses operating in the locality of the body. we all have an eternal soul - get used to it andrew > > Tracing the Synapses of Our Spiritu

Re: [CTRL] Religion & The Brain

2001-06-18 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon wrote: Check out an excellent book called " The God Part of the Brain " and another called " Belief and Make Believe." J2 > > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/science/A10767-2001Jun16.html > > Tracing the Synapses of Our Spirituality > Researchers Examine

[CTRL] Religion & The Brain

2001-06-18 Thread William Shannon
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/science/A10767-2001Jun16.html Tracing the Synapses of Our Spirituality Researchers Examine Relationship Between Brain and Religion By Shankar Vedantam Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, June 17, 2001; Page A01 In Philadelphia, a researcher discovers

[CTRL] religion and politics

2000-06-26 Thread John Taylor
>http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/csrpl/religame.pdf > > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'con

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology/ plus Const for Fed of Earth.

2000-03-10 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Thanks for the posting Nicky. I've read about the PGA before in Jeremy Lee's books. He saw them as something sinister. I must admit that while I have grave reservations about their scheme and certainly have a bone to pick with them for abusin

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology/ plus Const for Fed of Earth.

2000-03-08 Thread Nicola Molloy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Hello BD, The Committee of 12 to Save the World are the most powerful resistance composed of former and present Intelligence agents and other people who actually know what is going on and I'll get you some more info.They are opposed to the NW

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology/ plus Const for Fed of Earth.

2000-03-08 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- That all sounds pretty wild, especially the "Committe of 12 to Save the World". I wonder, though, about this Constitution for the Federation of Earth. Who is putting this up? Is that group Parliamentarians for World Order or some other global

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-05 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- --- blue honey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <> In other words, the Golden Rule. <> :-D __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com http://www.ctrl.o

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-05 Thread blue honey
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- By "knowing" that all is connected and that by harming others is truly harming your Self. And on that note, I would like to take back something that I said earlier...I do have faith, I have faith in Karma. ;-) andy www.bluehoney.org You tell

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology/ plus Const for Fed of Earth.

2000-03-05 Thread Nicola Molloy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Well one last word before I give up. There is a big grey area between many Christians who know nothing about the occult/ufos/mind control etc and those Christians who do know whats really going on. Lets just put these in the category of 'aware

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-05 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- << So for those who feel faith is not healthy...what drives them (us) to do good?>> You tell me. Regards, Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://i

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-05 Thread blue honey
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Good works do not come from faith...at least not in my case. There is a difference between a man who is moral because he fears evil, and a man who is moral because he knows he is perfectly free to be immoral. So for those who feel faith is not

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-05 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, nessie wrote: > > Everyone believes in something. > > I believe in doubt. I've counted the times I believed and it turned out it > was the right thing to do and I counted the times I doubted and that > turned out to be the

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-05 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- My problem with the "if you do that, you'll go to hell" scenario is that it makes one's salvation dependent upon "good works." And people use that as rationalization for just about anything. "I can do whatever, because I can make it up doing '

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-05 Thread blue honey
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- I know that you aren't trying to convert me; knowing that, I appreciate the time you have taken to sit and type what you did. When you said that telling a child that he/she will burn in hell for doing wrong is a lie, I agree, that isn't what C

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology/ plus Const for Fed of Earth.

2000-03-05 Thread nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Christians also do remote viewing Lemme tell you about my dog. I adopted him because his previous owners, who had found him as a stray, couldn't handle him. He was rambunctious and disobedient. I taugh

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology/ plus Const for Fed of Earth.

2000-03-05 Thread Eagle 1
ary.html http://www.rael.org/int/english/philosophy/philosophy.html eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Nicola Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology/ plus Const for Fed o

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-05 Thread Eagle 1
and it is from experience. eagle 1 http://www.lambsheart.com/fourwinds/hell.html - Original Message - From: "blue honey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology > -Caveat Lec

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology/ plus Const for Fed of Earth.

2000-03-05 Thread Nicola Molloy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Hi Andy etc, 20 years ago - You're going to hell - that's now passe. It's obligatory for any cutting edge interpreter of prophecy to now know the latest technology, inc mind control, Blue Beam holograms, weather control, HAARP, satellite tra

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-04 Thread blue honey
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Well Nicky, You started off on the same subject, but you started to stray just a bit into time machines, ETs, and UN foreign troops, however I will comment on a couple of remarks you made. <> This is news to me, are you speaking from experi

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-04 Thread Nurev Ind Research
n't blame you to some degree)... But, If you haven't experienced it, > you cannot logically judge someone who claims to have experienced it. One > cancels the other. > > eagle 1 I have experienced it and it's total bullshit. It's exactly what Marx said it was

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-04 Thread Nicola Molloy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Well Andy, The drawback of the psychedelic 'we are one/divine/there is no separation' experience is it only lasts for the duration of the high. You have only opened one of the top chakras artificially, by the drug burning holes in the barrier

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-04 Thread nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- > Everyone believes in something. I believe in doubt. I've counted the times I believed and it turned out it was the right thing to do and I counted the times I doubted and that turned out to be the right thing to do. Doubt wins hands down.

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-04 Thread blue honey
s the other. eagle 1 - Original Message ----- From: "blue honey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 8:49 AM Subject: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology (was BUSH IS A REPTILIAN) > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> &

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-04 Thread Eagle 1
... But, If you haven't experienced it, you cannot logically judge someone who claims to have experienced it. One cancels the other. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "blue honey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 8:4

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-03 Thread blue honey
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- A bit of humor on the same subject: Kissing Hank's Ass by Jim Huber This morning there was a knock at my door. When I answered the door I found a well-groomed,

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-02 Thread pmeares
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- blue honey wrote: > > That's a very interesting post, as you can probably tell I'm reading that > book too. My concern is the mind set of today, why grown adults blindly > believe something that is obviously untrue. Consider the following sc

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-02 Thread blue honey
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- That's a very interesting post, as you can probably tell I'm reading that book too. My concern is the mind set of today, why grown adults blindly believe something that is obviously untrue. Then these same people make their new found religion

Re: [CTRL] Religion and Mythology

2000-03-01 Thread pmeares
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- blue honey wrote: > > But aside from snakes, think about this - Horus > from Egypt (was prophesized to be great, born of a virgin on Dec. 25, taught > in a temple at the age of 12, had 12 deciples, was slain on a cross between > 2 thieves, of

[CTRL] Religion and Mythology (was BUSH IS A REPTILIAN)

2000-03-01 Thread blue honey
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- No I didn't consider that. But aside from snakes, think about this - Horus from Egypt (was prophesized to be great, born of a virgin on Dec. 25, taught in a temple at the age of 12, had 12 deciples, was slain on a cross between 2 thieves, ofte

Re: [CTRL] Religion-Online

2000-02-04 Thread Eagle 1
ul of you. I hope they think the same. eagle 1 http://www.lambsheart.com - Original Message - From: "Mick Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Religion-Online > -Caveat Lector- http:

Re: [CTRL] Religion-Online

2000-02-04 Thread Mick Poirier
phal2.html > >You can also purchase the book of Enoch by going: >http://www.genescottunivernet.com/genbks.htm > >eagle 1 >http://www.lambsheart.com > > >- Original Message ----- >From: "earthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> &g

Re: [CTRL] Religion-Online

2000-02-03 Thread Eagle 1
lso purchase the book of Enoch by going: http://www.genescottunivernet.com/genbks.htm eagle 1 http://www.lambsheart.com - Original Message - From: "earthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 9:17 PM Subject: [CTRL] Religion-Online >

[CTRL] Religion-Online

2000-02-02 Thread earthman
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- I didn't see the book of Enoch though Peter Religion-Online: Full texts by recognized religious scholars More than 700 articles and chapters which you can read, download, and print. Topics include Old and New Testament, Theology, Ethics, Hi

Re: [CTRL] Religion

2000-01-09 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/08/2000 7:42:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << 3. Mushrooms (Particularly Aminita Muscaria) : Yes these little things were also quite a wonder. Where did they come from. The ancient people had no immediate concept of spores. So a

Re: [CTRL] Religion

2000-01-08 Thread pmeares
Nicky Molloy wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Well no one ever said - we are all one, we are divine, love everyone - till > people started smoking dope. According to some researchers, religious 'authorities' (so-called) have been saying this from the get-go, and they weren't smoking 'dope', they

Re: [CTRL] Religion

2000-01-08 Thread nessie
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Getz was OK'Trane was incredible, and >his searching sound is the epitome of spirtualityIMO anyway. There's no accounting for taste. Some people like God. Others like Allah. Some prefer Gaia. What's the big deal? DECLARATION & DISC

Re: [CTRL] Religion

2000-01-08 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/7/00 10:10:04 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Coltrane is over-rated - Stan Getz evinced more spirituality. >> Well...opinions are like, er, ears...but I wholeheartedly disagee with your opinion in the above statement...Getz was OK..

Re: [CTRL] Religion

2000-01-07 Thread Nicky Molloy
ing ecology from the pulpit. Even the Dali Lama. I scanned some of Maitreya's advice for us humans - it parallels the Dali's speech. Nicky -Original Message- From: Yardbird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, 8 January 2000 16

Re: [CTRL] Religion

2000-01-07 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Mr.Plant or Page? Only Page was a member of the Yardbirds. And Coltrane is over-rated - Stan Getz evinced more spirituality. I have been to Acharya's website and frankly I was unimpressed - everything she espouses has been espoused before and will be again long after she is forgo

Re: [CTRL] Religion

2000-01-07 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/7/00 9:15:10 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Jamieson >> Uh, "Yardbird" is it? Hmcute...are you a fan of BADDD "classic" rock or wat'?? Dude...Acharya is "annoying"??? Have you read he

Re: [CTRL] Religion

2000-01-07 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- > > The Great (And Cute and Amazing)(not to mention annoying) Acharya S. wrote: > > > ...RELIGION EQUALS RACISM, SEXISM, SPECIESISM, SELF-HATRED, EXPLOITATION, > SLAVERY, WAR. WE THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH ARE ONE. NO RACES, NO RELIGIONS, NO > DUALITY, NO WAR. > > ALL BELIEFS ARE D

[CTRL] Religion

2000-01-07 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- Philosopher Bertrand Russell wrote: "'Religion is based . . . mainly upon fear . . . fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand . . . . My own view on religion

[CTRL] Religion causing office problems

1999-11-01 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Religion causing office problems Employee reprimanded for wishing her co-workers a `blessed day'; situation is becoming more common BY GREGORY WEAVER Indianapolis Star and News INDIANAPOLIS: It was L

Re: [CTRL] Religion

1999-10-15 Thread Das GOAT
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-10-15 05:27:48 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >We just need the right marketing and we'll rich and famous.. The medium --marketing-- is the MESSAGE. "Content" is just icing on the cake. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informa

Re: [CTRL] Religion

1999-10-15 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: earthman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We just need the right marketing and we'll rich and famous.. There are various ways to market a religion / belief system / obsession / scam. Besides the traditional mind-control methods [drugs, implants, sublimi

Re: [CTRL] Religion

1999-10-15 Thread earthman
From: Andrew Hennessey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Religion > -Caveat Lector- > > If you know of texts that should be added to this page ... says Dave Wiley. > > well now that you ask I

Re: [CTRL] Religion

1999-10-14 Thread Andrew Hennessey
-Caveat Lector- If you know of texts that should be added to this page ... says Dave Wiley. well now that you ask I invented my own religion just to see if it could be done ... but initially in the hope of gaining some tax exemption ... :) Its called CONTINUISM - I invented my own 'genes

Re: [CTRL] Religion

1999-10-12 Thread C Davis
-Caveat Lector- All religions are right...they each hold a piece of the puzzle. Relgion and language were confounded at Babylon. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!

[CTRL] Religion

1999-10-11 Thread earthman
-Caveat Lector- http://davidwiley.com/religion.html Can the statement p = ~p ever be true? Can two religious systems whose teacings are in direct conflict both be correct? The truth is out there. These religious texts are presented for your exploration, in the hope that you will find it. If y

[CTRL] Religion and Revolution - Hakim Bey

1999-09-27 Thread Sean McDougal
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Re: [CTRL] Religion and the Racist Right (fwd)

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
-Caveat Lector- -- >From: William Hugh Tunstall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- Forwarded message - > Author: PARTON, NIGEL R. > Title: Religion and the Racist Right: The Origins of the >Christian Identity Movement.(Review) reviewed by >

[CTRL] Religion and the Racist Right (fwd)

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message - Author: PARTON, NIGEL R. Title: Religion and the Racist Right: The Origins of the Christian Identity Movement.(Review) reviewed by NIGEL R. PARTON --