CS: Misc-Police Corruption

2000-11-23 Thread Jonathan
From: Jonathan Spencer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Prior to 1950 something there was no offence of carry an offensive weapon Minor nit, Ian. Surely you remember the Vagrancy Act of 1824 (or was it 1842)? --Jonathan Spencer, firearms examiner "Justice is open to everybody in the same way as the Ritz

CS: Misc-Recommended reading

2000-11-23 Thread N. L. Cobb
From: "N. L. Cobb", [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Talking about entertainment, I saw a movie a few months ago, I think it was called Ronan or something like that, it's got Robert DeNiro in it, filmed in France, I thought it was the best "action" movie I've seen, the car chases are mind boggling! Steve.

CS: Misc-Police Corruption

2000-11-23 Thread Tim Jeffreys
From: "Tim Jeffreys", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Oh, the good old days. When men could go shooting whilst high as a kite on >opium, get pissed, carry a flick knife and screw a bird without being >bankrupted by the government, then have a fight on the way home. All in the >same day as well. Sheer bliss.

CS: Legal-Certificate Holders

2000-11-23 Thread Tim Jeffreys
From: "Tim Jeffreys", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >~I would be howling because I don't want to see complete freedom of movement of firearms.~ No, nor do I. What I want is the lightest possible controls that operate towards preventing criminals, lunatics and the incompetent from having access to firearms

CS: Field-Bird shooting in EU - info wanted

2000-11-23 Thread Tgarth
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The EU Birds Directive applies to all member states, but individual countries can opt to derogate from some conditions - e.g. the UK has a general licence to shoot corvids and woodpigeons all year round. Can anyone tell me - with chapter and verse, if possible, please

CS: Misc-Police Corruption

2000-11-23 Thread andrew
From: andrew, [EMAIL PROTECTED] What? Are you implying that we have a law regulating the MISUSE of drugs? Then again it could be used to justify another totally ineffective law; "The law works because people only break it legally". If the laws prohibiting certain types of drugs, their posse

CS: Misc-Web Site of interest

2000-11-23 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> Peter Jackson openly advocates total freedom of movement of firearms. That is one. Others seek the same end. Total freedom of firearms means that people like this would be free to have firearms. Which part of this dont you understand? OK. More laws mean more o

CS: Pol-Stop or I'll chant!

2000-11-23 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> What weapon do you think would have been effective in this case? A firearm? A baseball bat? CS or pepper spray? A cattle prod? A plastic shield such as the police use? A clothes prop? A rottweiler? Our right to self defence has not descended anywhere. I repeat

CS: Pol-dates of laws

2000-11-23 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> What particular rights are they, Nick? I take it that, in your ideal society, there would be total freedom to get pissed, drive and kill the odd pedestrian? I wager thee a kings ransom if you saw as much roadkill as I did, then your mind would be changed! Anyw

CS: Misc-Police Corruption

2000-11-23 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> Whats a ho-down? Do we need banjo players? IG Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discus

CS: Misc-AFO selection

2000-11-23 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> Visual exams are carried out annually, along with a full physical exam. (Hearing, heart, chest, etc). Instructors also get blood level tests. We don't get psychometrically tested, because it is recognised that there is no method of testing available that is tru

CS: Misc-Recommended movies

2000-11-23 Thread John . W . Smith
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was "Ronin", an excellent movie with an Audi S8 involved in the car chases. Absolutely superb, with loads of designer violence too:-) Sean Bean playing a dweeb for a change! J. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CS: Misc-Web Site of interest

2000-11-23 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Mr Kleasen is the spawn of your country, you are welcome to have him back. >With regards to the MP, if you are curious about crime cameras, ask her >yourself. Nothing to do with me, nor am I interested. >Now, if you read my post, you will see that I don't

CS: Misc-Police Corruption

2000-11-23 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >IG appears to be behaving in a way similar to the >tobacco companies - looking at the evidence and flatly >denying its existence. The tobacco companies deny >reality for financial reasons and so do the police. --snip-- Steve, & Norman,

CS: Pol-Animal rights activists get upset, for a change

2000-11-23 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Like for instance, Bugs Bunny's creator (Mel Blanc) wasn't so >>vociferously anti hunting as to whore-out his creation to the anti's. > >Slightly off topic and picky but Mel Blanc was only responsible for the >voice, who actually created the character is

CS: Misc-police corruption

2000-11-23 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> Good question. I would like to think that would be the case. As I said..I would LIKE to think The police service is so bloody PC now, the slightest opportunity to show that they arent racist is jumped on and publicised for all to see. It actua

CS: Legal-immigration

2000-11-23 Thread alellis
From: "alellis", [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> What is it you like about the Canadian system. al -- Last time I checked anyone with a Bachelor's degree or better, or with an "in demand" job skill who brought in assets worth at least 150,000 Canadian dollars could immigrate. That struck me as sensibl

CS: Pol-Animal rights tell MSPs dog hunting ban 'cruel'

2000-11-23 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Animal rights campaigners have delivered a damaging blow to the bill aimed >at banning fox hunting by claiming it could encourage cruelty to animals. > >The Scottish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals made the >admission to MSPs taking eviden

CS: Misc-Web Site of interest

2000-11-23 Thread Don
From: Don Baldwin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I didn't post the web site in order to support the argument for regulation. >I believe that it illustrates the useless nature of the laws that we already >have and also illustrates my view that those who advocate total freedom of >possession of firearms wou

CS: Field-Hunting Issues in EU

2000-11-23 Thread Lars
From: "Lars", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speech by Bo Lindevall, Information manager for the Swedish Hunters Association, at Intergoup, the group of EU-parliament members who are engaged in hunting Issues. " How can we hunters keep on a positive perception of hunting by the Public Opinion as we increa

CS: Pol-Animal rights tell MSPs dog hunting ban 'cruel'

2000-11-23 Thread Pete
From: Pete, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm rubbing my eyes in disbelief. Can it really be that the "animal lovers" are really prepared to give way to the greater understanding of said animals on the part of those who live and work with them, even when that relationship is one of control? There's hop

CS: Misc-Police Corruption

2000-11-23 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Oh, the good old days. When men could go shooting whilst high as a kite on >opium, get pissed, carry a flick knife and screw a bird without being >bankrupted by the government, then have a fight on the way home. All in the >same day as well. Sheer bliss. W

CS: Legal-Certificate Holders

2000-11-23 Thread KiPng
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have stayed out of this debate because I thought both sides were generally interested in generating more heat than light. However, I do find a several points in IG's latest posting that I would like to take issue with: ~I realise now that is because I am correspon

CS: Misc-Recommended reading

2000-11-23 Thread John Kime
From: "John Kime", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recently, on recommendation from 'the list' I acquired a copy of Unintended Consequences by John Ross via Amazon. Suffice to say I found it a cracking read, I wonder if any of the big Hollyweird studios will ever have the cojones to make into a full fledged

CS: Misc-AFO selection

2000-11-23 Thread Christopher Gould
From: "Christopher Gould", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ref IGs recent posting: Thank you IG, that seems better training than I imagined, I suggest you try and publicise this more widely so as to improve public confidence. Incidentally, as an optometrist with an interest in sports vision I am interested i

CS: Pol-dates of laws

2000-11-23 Thread nick
From: nick royall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] One thing that IG's list of laws omits is that: Prior to 1930 it was NOT an offence to abuse onself by taking drugs therfore there were no illegal drug dealers shooting each other over their patch. Prior to 1953 the law abiding could carry virtually any it

CS: Pol-The Gun Control Network

2000-11-23 Thread RustyBullethole
From: RustyBullethole, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >The six members are not MPs, although Gill's husband (I think or is it >her brother) is. I think their members are stated on their website, >but anyway it's Gill, that nutty professor, and four family members >of people killed at Dunblane or Hungerfor

CS: Legal-ú100,000 for Sweeney man covered in blood

2000-11-23 Thread RustyBullethole
From: RustyBullethole, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday Express 19.11.00 L100,000 for Sweeney man covered in blood BY JOHN TWOMEY A FORMER Flying Squad detective who was cleared of corruption is to receive up to L100,000 after he was covered in blood when a colleague was accidentally shot. Keith

CS: Pol-Stop or I'll chant!

2000-11-23 Thread RustyBullethole
From: RustyBullethole, [EMAIL PROTECTED] For the benefit of the US subscribers who may or may not have got the details of the trial of another fruitcake, detained for the attempted murder of George Harrison. It's a useful reminder of the long term result of incremental gun laws. For those una

CS: Pol-Certificate fees change

2000-11-23 Thread Mike
From: Mike Eveleigh, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some police forces have sent letters warning their certificate holders that certificate fees will be changing in 2001, January 1st to be precise. I've put a list of the "proposed" changes on our website at - http://psa.bizhosting.com on the "What's New"

CS: Crime-pensioner tackles armed robber

2000-11-23 Thread KiPng
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PENSIONER PRAISED FOR TACKLING ARMED HOSTAGE TAKER 221331 NOV 10 By Jane Merrick, PA News A 77-year-old pensioner was today praised for his bravery after he tackled an armed robber who had taken a woman hostage in a post office. The retired seaman was punche

CS: Legal-ECHR ruling

2000-11-23 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] --snip-- >The claim for loss of profits pursued in the European Court of Human >Rights (ECHR) by MPC on behalf of the firerarms retailers and dealers >had been declared inadmissible on the grounds that there was not a >reasonable expectation that th