Re: Cygwin OpenSSH GPL Violation?

2009-06-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 8 21:58, Karl M wrote: http://www.neophob.com/serendipity/ Hi All... I just ran across this site and didn't find any source code offered. Is this a known site? Now it is. I contacted the guy to add the sources to the site. Thanks, Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen

Cygwin OpenSSH GPL Violation?

2009-06-08 Thread Karl M
http://www.neophob.com/serendipity/ Hi All... I just ran across this site and didn't find any source code offered. Is this a known site? Thanks, ...Karl _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits.

Mirrors in GPL violation? + Re: MD5s of setup.exe on mirrors.

2007-05-14 Thread Markus E . L .
Buchbinder,Barry(NIH/NIAID)[E] writes: long explanation Barry, my and (AFAI understand) Alex' problem is not with using setup - I for my part am quite comfortable with how I start setup. Alex (in my humble opinion rightly) is concerned with questions of trust and endorsement (like: cygwin.com

RE: Mirrors in GPL violation? + Re: MD5s of setup.exe on mirrors.

2007-05-14 Thread Dave Korn
On 15 May 2007 00:24, Markus E.L. wrote: is concerned with questions of trust and endorsement That's the underlying source of your error right there: a false assumption. (like: cygwin.com lists the mirrors as source of the software, then declines any responsibility for the actual content

Re: Mirrors in GPL violation? + Re: MD5s of setup.exe on mirrors.

2007-05-14 Thread Markus E . L .
DaveKorn writes: On 15 May 2007 00:24, Markus E.L. wrote: is concerned with questions of trust and endorsement That's the underlying source of your error right there: a false assumption. So Alex has been concerned with different questions? My apologies if I read him wrong there.

Re: Mirrors in GPL violation? + Re: MD5s of setup.exe on mirrors.

2007-05-14 Thread Markus E . L .
Hi Dave, Markus E.L. writes: DaveKorn writes: snipped Rereading parts of the thread and your reply, I fear it happens again: Lot's of reproaches in your's and Barry's replys, accusations of stuff _I_ never wrote, down to questioning the legitimacy of addressing features of any kind in any

Re: YA GPL Violation (was Re: Rebase dlls not from cygwin)

2005-06-08 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jun 7 08:02, Jason Tishler wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 07:47:13AM -0400, Jason Tishler wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 11:06:29PM +0200, Hermann Klocker wrote: I try to run Dakota 3.3 (from http://endo.sandia.gov/DAKOTA/licensing/release/Dakota_3_3.cygwin.tar.gz) AFAICT, the

YA GPL Violation (was Re: Rebase dlls not from cygwin)

2005-06-07 Thread Jason Tishler
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 07:47:13AM -0400, Jason Tishler wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 11:06:29PM +0200, Hermann Klocker wrote: I try to run Dakota 3.3 (from http://endo.sandia.gov/DAKOTA/licensing/release/Dakota_3_3.cygwin.tar.gz) AFAICT, the above is distributing cygwin1.dll without the

Re: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-25 Thread Doctor Bill
You misunderstand the GPL. The GPL does not grant you a right to the source code, it creates a responsibility for them to give your the source code. I know it sounds like the same thing, but it isn't. If you had a legal right to the source code, you could then sue them for a copy. But since

Re: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Jani Tiainen
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:59:12PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: Does anyone know if there is source code available for the binary downloads from http://rateless.com/? I've sent a message requesting that they provide source code for their programs but it seems like

Re: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Doctor Bill
It looks like it is up to RedHat lawyers to decide if they wish to enforce their license. Bill On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:54:32 +0300, Jani Tiainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:59:12PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: Does anyone know if there

RE: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Dave Korn
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Doctor Bill Sent: 22 October 2004 15:50 To: cygwin Subject: Re: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation? It looks like it is up to RedHat lawyers to decide if they wish to enforce their license. Bill TITTLL, to coin a phrase

RE: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Hannu E K Nevalainen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Doctor Bill Sent: 22 October 2004 15:50 To: cygwin Subject: Re: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation? It looks like it is up to RedHat lawyers to decide if they wish to enforce their license. Bill

RE: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Dave Korn
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Hannu E K Nevalainen Sent: 22 October 2004 16:15 -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Doctor Bill Sent: 22 October 2004 15:50 To: cygwin Subject: Re: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation? It looks

RE: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Hughes, Bill
Christopher Faylor wrote: Does anyone know if there is source code available for the binary downloads from http://rateless.com/? I've sent a message requesting that they provide source code for their programs but it seems like this is YA case of someone assuming that they get to use cygwin

RE: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Dave Korn
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Hughes, Bill Sent: 22 October 2004 17:03 To: 'cygwin Subject: RE: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation? Christopher Faylor wrote: Does anyone know if there is source code available for the binary downloads from http

RE: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Hughes, Bill
Dave Korn wrote: -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Hughes, Bill ..snip.. Out of curiosity, what makes you think they are using cygwin code? Probably the link on the download page that says Precompiled binaries for cygwin on windows. They may have changed their web

Re: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Reini Urban
Dave Korn schrieb: Found: .\rateless-tunnel.exe rateless-tunnel.exe C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\ADVAPI32.DLL C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNEL32.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\RPCRT4.dll [EMAIL PROTECTED] /win/c/downloads/rateless LOL.

RE: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Dave Korn
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Hughes, Bill Sent: 22 October 2004 17:40 Dave Korn wrote: -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Hughes, Bill ..snip.. Out of curiosity, what makes you think they are using cygwin code? Probably the

Re: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-22 Thread Reini Urban
Dave Korn schrieb: -Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Reini Urban Sent: 22 October 2004 17:44 Dave Korn schrieb: Found: .\rateless-tunnel.exe rateless-tunnel.exe C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\ADVAPI32.DLL C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll

http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
Does anyone know if there is source code available for the binary downloads from http://rateless.com/? I've sent a message requesting that they provide source code for their programs but it seems like this is YA case of someone assuming that they get to use cygwin without paying attention to the

Re: http://rateless.com/ GPL violation?

2004-10-21 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:59:12PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: Does anyone know if there is source code available for the binary downloads from http://rateless.com/? I've sent a message requesting that they provide source code for their programs but it seems like this is YA case of someone

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-09 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 07:54 AM 5/8/2004, you wrote: Do not feed the trolls. Which troll is that? Oh, I just assumed that was what you considered me. While I respect your right to voice your opinions here, the reason I responded was that I didn't want anyone to

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-09 Thread Larry Hall
At 02:11 PM 5/9/2004, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR At 07:54 AM 5/8/2004, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: Do not feed the trolls. Which troll is that? Oh, I just assumed that was what you considered me. While I

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-08 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
Do not feed the trolls. I honestly did not expect any replies; I hate these discussions as much as anybody. I will keep this brief. Larry Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then your gripe is with the GPL. The point is, whether you agree with all the tenants of the license or not, you cannot

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-08 Thread Larry Hall
At 07:54 AM 5/8/2004, you wrote: Do not feed the trolls. Which troll is that? I honestly did not expect any replies; I hate these discussions as much as anybody. I will keep this brief. While I respect your right to voice your opinions here, the reason I responded was that I didn't want

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On May 6 19:02, Dave Korn wrote: -Original Message- From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2004 18:47 You do get a T-shirt for filing the assignment, which is intended to cover all of your subsequent contributions. Ah, that explains it. Yep, a

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-07 Thread Larry Hall
At 05:53 PM 5/7/2004, you wrote: Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I am sure you know, mentioning the GPL always starts a Rube Goldberg reaction of interpretation from would-be lawyers, zealots, or people who are unsatisfied with following the rules and assume they should have

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-07 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I am sure you know, mentioning the GPL always starts a Rube Goldberg reaction of interpretation from would-be lawyers, zealots, or people who are unsatisfied with following the rules and assume they should have more rights to the software than

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-06 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On May 6 10:29, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Thanks for the hint. I asked our layer to have a look. s/layer/lawyer Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Co-Project Leader mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat, Inc. -- Unsubscribe info:

RE: GPL violation ?

2004-05-06 Thread Dave Korn
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Corinna Vinschen Sent: 06 May 2004 09:36 On May 6 10:29, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Thanks for the hint. I asked our layer to have a look. s/layer/lawyer Corinna That makes me think, if OSI had defined a seven-lawyer

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 07:08:59PM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote: This comes up on here every now and then and if i didnt think it was a possible issue i wouldnt have brought it up. Mind you IANAL so i could have bought this up for nothing, thus passing the buck to to other (hopefully) more

RE: GPL violation ?

2004-05-06 Thread Dave Korn
-Original Message- From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor Sent: 06 May 2004 16:56 On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 07:08:59PM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote: This comes up on here every now and then and if i didnt think it was a possible issue i wouldnt have brought it up. Mind

RE: GPL violation ?

2004-05-06 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 6 May 2004, Dave Korn wrote: -Original Message- From: Christopher Faylor Sent: 06 May 2004 16:56 On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 07:08:59PM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote: This comes up on here every now and then and if i didnt think it was a possible issue i wouldnt have

RE: GPL violation ?

2004-05-06 Thread Robb, Sam
You do get a T-shirt for filing the assignment, which is intended to cover all of your subsequent contributions. Uh-oh, Igor... you let the cat out of the bag. The goodwill of the community is only worth so much, but a free T-shirt... now, that's *swag*. Now, excuse me, I've gotta go see

RE: GPL violation ?

2004-05-06 Thread Dave Korn
-Original Message- From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2004 18:47 You do get a T-shirt for filing the assignment, which is intended to cover all of your subsequent contributions. Ah, that explains it. Yep, a t-shirt is definitely a material

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-06 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 01:50:39PM -0400, Robb, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You do get a T-shirt for filing the assignment, which is intended to cover all of your subsequent contributions. Uh-oh, Igor... you let the cat out of the bag. The goodwill of the community is only worth so

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 01:50:39PM -0400, Robb, Sam wrote: You do get a T-shirt for filing the assignment, which is intended to cover all of your subsequent contributions. Uh-oh, Igor... you let the cat out of the bag. The goodwill of the community is only worth so much, but a free T-shirt...

GPL violation ?

2004-05-05 Thread Vince Hoffman
Checkpoint appear to be distributing cygwin1.dll (as well as gzip and gtar) without any obvious sources available. if fact of the 3 GPL utils its the only that doesnt have its own copying notice (they do at least provide a copy of the GPL.) I havent contacted them about this as i could be in error

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-05 Thread Chris Herborth
Vince Hoffman wrote: Checkpoint appear to be distributing cygwin1.dll (as well as gzip and gtar) without any obvious sources available. if fact of the 3 GPL utils its the only that doesnt have its own copying notice (they do at least provide a copy of the GPL.) Go read the GPL; you only need to

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-05 Thread Brian Dessent
Chris Herborth wrote: Go read the GPL; you only need to provide sources to people who _ask_for_them_. These days, you could probably just refer them to a web page or something. Also, they have to make any _changes_ they've made to the source available. s/a web page/a web page that you

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-05 Thread Vince Hoffman
On Wed, 5 May 2004, Chris Herborth wrote: Vince Hoffman wrote: Checkpoint appear to be distributing cygwin1.dll (as well as gzip and gtar) without any obvious sources available. if fact of the 3 GPL utils its the only that doesnt have its own copying notice (they do at least provide a

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-05 Thread Larry Hall
At 02:08 PM 5/5/2004, you wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2004, Chris Herborth wrote: Vince Hoffman wrote: Checkpoint appear to be distributing cygwin1.dll (as well as gzip and gtar) without any obvious sources available. if fact of the 3 GPL utils its the only that doesnt have its own copying

Re: GPL violation ?

2004-05-05 Thread Georgios Petasis
- Original Message - From: Chris Herborth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Georgios Petasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: Re: GPL violation ? Georgios Petasis wrote: Including GPL'd code in a project as a shared library/DLL is just peachy; GPL requires

spell and nano (was reply to cgf about gpl violation)

2003-04-06 Thread Gareth Pearce
(crossing to cygwin incase it might inspire someone) use nano; for the same reason the (webpage) nano binary uses PDcurses rather than ncurses so no termcap files are needed. I think the cygwin provided version of nano is far superior as things like spell check would actually work, This would

Re: spell and nano (was reply to cgf about gpl violation)

2003-04-06 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 11:38:44PM +, Gareth Pearce wrote: Regards, Gareth - cygwin nano packager. (PS: Waiting for cgf's supprised look - since nano-devel's Chris complied immediately - or at least is trying too...) I'm very gratified at the response and indicated as much in my response to

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-27 Thread for_spam
The problem here is that you were politely asked to stop doing something and your response was: 1) I want to use the software the way I want to use it. It's too hard to use it any other way. 2) You shouldn't be bothering me because I love open source. 3) Everybody else is doing it. These are

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: MinimalisticBuild-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-27 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 20:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the rockbox mailinglist i used a VALID email address for_spam seemed invalid at first glance - it *appears* to be a black hole address. - and on my win32 sdk page is a VALID email adress, too. I didn't see that. I stumbled

Fwd: Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-27 Thread for_spam
: Another GPL violation: Re: MinimalisticBuild-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB) On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 20:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the rockbox mailinglist i used a VALID email address for_spam seemed invalid at first glance - it *appears* to be a black hole address

Re: Possible GPL Violation

2003-03-27 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 04:07:17AM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: Perhaps a http://cygwin.com/goldstars/ web page is in order ;-) No, I'm only kidding... Hmmm cgf Yeah. I'm very tempted too... :-) Igor --

Re: Fwd: Re: Another GPL violation: Re:Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-27 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 02:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nobody is perfect ;) now lets be friends again and make the world a better place with OpenSource Software - ok ? :) Yep. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://users.bigpond.net.au/robertc/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a

RE: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-26 Thread Gary R. Van Sickle
Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: [snip, yeah I'll bite] My main point is that an engineer has as much business interpreting law as a salesperson has telling an engineer how to design a system. PFHHTcarbonated beverage shoots out nose! Never had an engineering job, huh? At issue here are people

Yet another GPL violation

2003-03-26 Thread Pavel Tsekov
http://www.thraexsoftware.com/sirid/ The Windows version of the installer includes postgres which uses Cygwin. I couldn't find any link to the source of either Cygwin or postgres on the site. Note that by default postgres is not required to run the application. It's there just as an option.

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-26 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
This is my last message on this thread. No, really. Most responders so far have essentially been sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling NAH NAH NAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU. I am not sure where people learned this forensic technique, but it does make it pretty obvious who has the stronger

Possible GPL Violation

2003-03-26 Thread Elfyn McBratney
I am sending you this e-mail because I was given your URL in passing, and found that you are distributing Cygwin amongst other Cygwin-linked utilities http://hot.ee/tar/?l=/tar/download/, but there is no URL for the corresponding source code. I see mentions of the GPL on your site, so I'm

Re: Possible GPL Violation

2003-03-26 Thread Elfyn McBratney
I am sending you this e-mail because I was given your URL in passing, and found that you are distributing Cygwin amongst other Cygwin-linked utilities http://hot.ee/tar/?l=/tar/download/, but there is no URL for the corresponding source code. I see mentions of the GPL on your site, so I'm

Re: Possible GPL Violation

2003-03-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 03:35:33AM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: I am sending you this e-mail because I was given your URL in passing, and found that you are distributing Cygwin amongst other Cygwin-linked utilities http://hot.ee/tar/?l=/tar/download/, but there is no URL for the corresponding

Re: Possible GPL Violation

2003-03-26 Thread Elfyn McBratney
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 03:35:33AM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: I am sending you this e-mail because I was given your URL in passing, and found that you are distributing Cygwin amongst other Cygwin-linked utilities http://hot.ee/tar/?l=/tar/download/, but there is no URL for the

Re: Possible GPL Violation

2003-03-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 04:07:17AM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: Perhaps a http://cygwin.com/goldstars/ web page is in order ;-) No, I'm only kidding... Hmmm cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html

Re: Possible GPL Violation

2003-03-26 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:55:22PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 03:35:33AM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: I am sending you this e-mail because I was given your URL in passing, and found that you are distributing Cygwin amongst other Cygwin-linked utilities

Re: Possible GPL Violation

2003-03-26 Thread Elfyn McBratney
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:55:22PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 03:35:33AM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: I am sending you this e-mail because I was given your URL in passing, and found that you are distributing Cygwin amongst other Cygwin-linked utilities

Re: Possible GPL Violation

2003-03-26 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:17:47PM -0600, Joshua Daniel Franklin wrote: While I agree, doesn't it make more sense to contact people off-list first? If this was [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something I'd understand, but really other than us being fellow Cygwin users what does it have to do with the

Re: Possible GPL Violation

2003-03-26 Thread Elfyn McBratney
On 3/27/2003 5:33 AM, Elfyn McBratney wrote: I am sending you this e-mail because I was given your URL in passing, and found that you are distributing Cygwin amongst other Cygwin-linked utilities http://hot.ee/tar/?l=/tar/download/, but there is no URL for the corresponding source code.

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-25 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
with badges and guns are going to listen? Your notions about what constitutes a GPL violation are nothing more than your opinion. And you are not even qualified to have one, much less to express it. Much like the guy on the street corner expressing his opinion about the end of the world, it is kind

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-25 Thread Elfyn McBratney
to whom the people with badges and guns are going to listen? Your notions about what constitutes a GPL violation are nothing more than your opinion. And you are not even qualified to have one, much less to express it. Much like the guy on the street corner expressing his opinion about the end

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-25 Thread Randall R Schulz
about what constitutes a GPL violation are nothing more than your opinion. And you are not even qualified to have one, much less to express it. Much like the guy on the street corner expressing his opinion about the end of the world, it is kind of boring. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Even

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-25 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 12:36:15PM -0500, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW: I am not a lawyer. And therefore, everything you have said may be safely ignored. Until this alleged GPL violator receives a cease and desist order from an attorney, he has no

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-25 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:20:29PM -0500, Robert Praetorius wrote: I'd say that he ought to be prevailed upon to right a document on how non-lawyers can help with GPL enforcement, but he probably has and I just haven't found that link yet. I suspect that http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-25 Thread Robert Praetorius
FWIW: I am not a lawyer. And therefore, everything you have said may be safely ignored. Just for reference, if someone's looking for a lawyer not to ignore, that would probably Eben Moglen, FSF general counsel and board member (also a professor of law and legal history, formerly a

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32(~7.5MB)

2003-03-25 Thread Charles Wilson
Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW: I am not a lawyer. And therefore, everything you have said may be safely ignored. guys, I can't believe you fell for this. *Do Not Feed The Trolls*. See LoPresti's other contributions to civil discourse:

Re: Possible GPL violation.

2003-03-24 Thread Corinna Vinschen
Hi Robert, On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 11:40:25AM +0800, Robert Biuk-Aghai wrote: Is my reading of the GPL, term 3, correct in that I need to download the sources of all packages included in the binary archive file I prepared, and place them on the same web server as the binary archive file

Re: Possible GPL violation.

2003-03-24 Thread Robert Biuk-Aghai
Hi Corinna, Ok, I'll make the sources available on our web server before I put the binary archive online again. By that time I'll send you a message so that you can visit my download page and confirm that things are done in the proper way. This will probably only be in September when I next teach

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: MinimalisticBuild-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB)

2003-03-24 Thread Robert Collins
: Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:06 AM Subject: Re: Another GPL violation: Re: MinimalisticBuild-Environmentforwin32 (~7.5MB) ---End Message--- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Another GPL violation: Re: Minimalistic Build-Environmentforwin32(~7.5MB)

2003-03-24 Thread Charles Wilson
seen RMS go after a GPL violation; not that he'd do so in this case -- you'd be at the mercy of the Red Hat legal beagles.) What would be the consequence, if i wouldn`t take care of your advice ? Will I get a reminder? Yes, probably via certified mail or from the friendly man in the County

GPL Violation

2003-03-05 Thread Jason Tishler
John, AFAICT, you are violating the GPL by not providing the source for Cygwin's setup program that you appear to distribute in binary only: http://burks.brighton.ac.uk/burks/software/langs/install.sw?1.cygwin.exe#1.cygwin.exe If you are distributing the source, then make it more apparent

RE: GPL Violation

2003-03-03 Thread Poncet Sébastien
: samedi 1 mars 2003 06:35 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: GPL Violation On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:36:04PM -0500, Jon A. Lambert wrote: If you provide download links to where one can download the software does that not satisfy the following license provision? The GPL

Re: GPL Violation

2003-03-03 Thread Jason Tishler
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 02:54:15PM +0100, Poncet Sébastien wrote: Concerning http://spt.free.fr/fetchmail/ ... Allthought I understand what you mean, I got first very angry. I will modify my page very soon and will only provide the modified sources. Thanks for explanations. You are welcome

Re: GPL Violation

2003-03-03 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 02:54:15PM +0100, Poncet S?bastien wrote: Concerning http://spt.free.fr/fetchmail/ ... Allthought I understand what you mean, I got first very angry. I will modify my page very soon and will only provide the modified sources. Thanks for explanations. Yeah, think how I

RE: GPL Violation

2003-03-03 Thread Poncet Sébastien
OK, I published a new alpha site for Fetchmail for Win32... You can have a look if you've got time. Regards. -Message d'origine- De : Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : lundi 3 mars 2003 16:26 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc : Poncet Sébastien Objet : Re: GPL Violation

Re: GPL Violation

2003-03-01 Thread Jon A. Lambert
: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:35 AM Subject: Re: GPL Violation On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:36:04PM -0500, Jon A. Lambert wrote: If you provide download links to where one can download the software does that not satisfy the following license provision? The GPL doesn't say anything about your using

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-28 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:26:06PM -0500, Jason Tishler wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 01:01:43AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Responding to Jason Tishler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sorry but I guess you did not read carefully what was written on my page http://spt.free.fr/fetchmail/. I did.

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-28 Thread Jon A. Lambert
network topology? - Original Message - From: Jason Tishler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Cygwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: Re: GPL Violation On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 01:01:43AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Responding to Jason

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-28 Thread Charles Wilson
Christopher Faylor wrote: -rw-a-- 2.2 ntf10366 b- stor 20-Jun-01 18:14 cygintl.dl_ So please, don't tell me I'm violating GPL Licenses ... :(( Sorry, but IMO you are. In case you need verification from someone with a redhat.com email address, you certainly do seem to be violating the

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-28 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:36:04PM -0500, Jon A. Lambert wrote: If you provide download links to where one can download the software does that not satisfy the following license provision? The GPL doesn't say anything about your using someone else to satisfy your obligations. If *you* provide

RE: GPL Violation

2003-02-24 Thread Gerald S. Williams
cgf wrote: The standalone DLL that we support is cygwin1.dll. We don't support it for free, however, as much as people want us to. My mistake. Yes, that's exactly what I was talking about. I was thinking about open-source projects (which in this case they have to be) posting binary releases

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-22 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 02:42:36PM -0500, Gerald S. Williams wrote: I wrote: There is another side to this issue: the fact that RedHat is not in the business of supporting a standalone cygwin1.DLL, ^^^ I knew that I shouldn't have touched that one yet... I'm assuming that the

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-21 Thread DJ Delorie
Lawyer? Three years? We don't even have funds to buy pizza and beer let alone a lawyer. We are not in the software distribution business. That's what Red Hat is for. That is why I buy and recommend Red Hat. If RedHat distributed cygwin under GPL 3b, then you could redistribute that CD

Re: [rwcitek@alum.calberkeley.org: Re: GPL Violation]

2003-02-21 Thread DJ Delorie
Some comments: If they want the source from the LUG, they should contact us about prices. This is acceptable, but GPL 3b requires that you provide a *written* promise to that effect. IMHO it only needs to be sufficiently legal to be a binding contract - i.e. dated and authenticatable. How

RE: GPL Violation

2003-02-21 Thread Gerald S. Williams
I wrote: There is another side to this issue: the fact that RedHat is not in the business of supporting a standalone cygwin1.DLL, ^^^ I knew that I shouldn't have touched that one yet... I'm assuming that the standalone DLL that RedHat IS in the business of supporting (i.e.,

GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread Jason Tishler
You are violating the GPL license by not providing the source for Cygwin on your fetchmail web page: http://spt.free.fr/fetchmail/ Please provide the Cygwin source that corresponds to the version of cygwin1.dll on the above web page at your earliest convenience. Thanks, Jason -- PGP/GPG

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread Frédéric L. W. Meunier
I bet I'm too. Well, sue me ? Can I provide a link ? Or what about the Cygwin people making the latest released cygwin1.dll available like the snapshots ? Then I'd just link to it. I make cygwin1.dll.bz2 available so that people can run the static binaries. I'm not allowed to transfer more than

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Frédéric L. W. Meunier wrote: I bet I'm too. Well, sue me ? Can I provide a link ? Or what about the Cygwin people making the latest released cygwin1.dll available like the snapshots ? Then I'd just link to it. I make cygwin1.dll.bz2 available so that people can run the

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 02:02:24PM -0300, Frédéric L. W. Meunier wrote: I bet I'm too. Well, sue me ? Can I provide a link ? Or what about the Cygwin people making the latest released cygwin1.dll available like the snapshots ? Then I'd just link to it. I make cygwin1.dll.bz2 available so

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread Frédéric L. W. Meunier
Corinna Vinschen wrote: I make cygwin1.dll.bz2 available so that people can run the static binaries. If you provide the Cygwin DLL in binary form, you must provide the sources of that version as well. Would a link to the latest version, say

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread David Starks-Browning
On Thursday 20 Feb 03, Frédéric L. W. Meunier writes: Corinna Vinschen wrote: I make cygwin1.dll.bz2 available so that people can run the static binaries. If you provide the Cygwin DLL in binary form, you must provide the sources of that version as well. Would a link to the latest

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 02:52:09PM -0300, Frédéric L. W. Meunier wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: I make cygwin1.dll.bz2 available so that people can run the static binaries. If you provide the Cygwin DLL in binary form, you must provide the sources of that version as well. Would a

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 02:52:09PM -0300, Fr?d?ric L. W. Meunier wrote: Corinna Vinschen wrote: I make cygwin1.dll.bz2 available so that people can run the static binaries. If you provide the Cygwin DLL in binary form, you must provide the sources of that version as well. Would a link to

RE: GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread Gerald S. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please provide the Cygwin source that corresponds to the version of cygwin1.dll on the above web page at your earliest convenience. Not necessarily. See section 3 of the GPL (version 2) where other alternatives are listed. Good point. You are not required to

RE: GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread Robb, Sam
Can't you provide a link to the latest released cygwin1.dll, what you do for snapshots ? I'll have to think about this. It's not a bad idea but given cygwin's user base I suspect that it could lead to a lot more problems with people who just download cygwin1.dll and then can't understand

Re: GPL Violation

2003-02-20 Thread Andrew Markebo
/ Corinna Vinschen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | I make cygwin1.dll.bz2 available so that people can run the | static binaries. | | If you provide the Cygwin DLL in binary form, you must provide | the sources of that version as well. Just a quick thought.. isn't it possible saying I can send you

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