On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 10:14:58AM -0800, Razer wrote:
> On November 18, 2018 2:09:47 PM PST, Zenaan Harkness
> wrote:
> >On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:08:49AM -0800, Razer wrote:
> >> "This is dedicated to the people in the building above me who
> >> called the cops on me when I was just trying
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 02:00:09PM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> > NOW it's a total fucking waste of time to even respond to garbage like
> > this but I feel the need to point out the Khmer Rouge were empowered by
> > the US government and Pentagram, and certainly weren't "left" of anything.
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 18:46:18 + (UTC)
jim bell wrote:
> > uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed
> out, the left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What
> needs to be added is that the people who sat on "the right" of the assembly
>
On 2018-11-23 04:46, jim bell wrote:
This led me to the conclusion that in the limited area of dictatorships,
there really isn't much difference between "left" and "right". These
labels become fairly irrelevant.
Pinochet kills three thousand commies, who previously wrecked the
economy and
My comments inline:
On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 11:45:27 PM PST, juan wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:04:56 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-11-21 12:39, juan wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:31:11 + (UTC)
> > jim bell wrote:
> >
> >
> >> In any case, I think that the
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 19:16:50 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> > > Corvee was typically one day a week working on the fields or some such.
> > > Which is a lot less than I spend working for the government.
>
> On 2018-11-22 18:11, juan wrote:
> > One day a week of slavery? cool.
>
> Way
> Corvee was typically one day a week working on the fields or some such.
> Which is a lot less than I spend working for the government.
On 2018-11-22 18:11, juan wrote:
One day a week of slavery? cool.
Way better than today's slavery.
The
ancient regime did not and could not send
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 17:50:54 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> >> On 2018-11-21 17:45, juan wrote:
> >>> uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed
> >>> out, the left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What
> >>> needs to be added is that the
On 2018-11-21 17:45, juan wrote:
uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed out, the
left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What needs to be added is that the
people who sat on "the right" of the assembly were the
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 16:04:56 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-11-21 17:45, juan wrote:
> > uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed
> > out, the left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What
> > needs to be added is that the people who
On 2018-11-21 17:45, juan wrote:
uh oh. So let's make clear what "the right" means. As Jim B. pointed out, the
left/right classification comes from the french revolution. What needs to be added is that the
people who sat on "the right" of the assembly were the
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:49:31 -0500
Steve Kinney wrote:
>
>
> On 11/20/18 10:41 PM, juan wrote:
>
> >> http://pilobilus.net/Political.Oritnetation.Grid.png
> >
> >
> > I don't think the 2d graph adds much. The assumption that 'economic'
> > freedom and 'personal' freedom are different
> My initial reaction was "fuck y'all." Subsequent
> experience has proved my instinctive anarchist response correct.
> America's real silent majority, our classic Liberals, have no voice
> Meanwhile, thanks to many contributing factors that all come back to
> "make money fast, at any human
On 11/20/18 10:41 PM, juan wrote:
>> http://pilobilus.net/Political.Oritnetation.Grid.png
>
>
> I don't think the 2d graph adds much. The assumption that 'economic'
> freedom and 'personal' freedom are different things is obviously flawed.
> Also, the assumption that 'conservatives'
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:04:56 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-11-21 12:39, juan wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:31:11 + (UTC)
> > jim bell wrote:
> >
> >
> >> In any case, I think that the 'convention' that we refer to "fascism" as
> >> being "right-wing" was, and is,
On 2018-11-21 12:39, juan wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:31:11 + (UTC)
jim bell wrote:
In any case, I think that the 'convention' that we refer to "fascism" as being
"right-wing" was, and is, completely phony.�
so assuming that commies and nazis and other fascists are on the
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:51:38 -0500
Steve Kinney wrote:
>
> The X axis represents distribution of Private power into fewer hands
> (Capitalism) or more hands (Free Enterprise). The Y axis represents
> distribution of State power into fewer hands (Authoritarian) or more
> hands (Anarchist). I
On 11/20/18 4:31 PM, jim bell wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 12:08:58 PM PST, Razer
> wrote:
>
>>There IS a "Left" and there IS a "Right"...
>
> Yes, and the origin of that meme was the outcome of the French
> revolution in 1789 onwards. "The right", of that location and era, sat
>
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 21:31:11 + (UTC)
jim bell wrote:
> In any case, I think that the 'convention' that we refer to "fascism" as
> being "right-wing" was, and is, completely phony.
so assuming that commies and nazis and other fascists are on the left,
who is on the right then?
On 2018-11-21 06:08, Razer wrote:
There IS a "Left" and there IS a "Right"...
Right=Fascism
Left=Anarcho-Communism(communalism et al)
...and an infinite number of points in between.
Bullshit.
There is one left and a thousand non lefts.
Every leftist believes one thousand and one points of
On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 12:08:58 PM PST, Razer wrote:
>There IS a "Left" and there IS a "Right"...
Yes, and the origin of that meme was the outcome of the French revolution in
1789 onwards. "The right", of that location and era, sat in the legislature on
the "right", and "The
On November 19, 2018 10:54:19 PM PST, Steve Kinney wrote:
>
>
>On 11/19/18 6:02 PM, juan wrote:
>
>>> On the brighter side, now Xenan will have lots of company over there
>in
>>> my CPunks Spam folder. I'm sure they will get along just fine, out
>of
>>> sight and out of mind.
>>
>> I
On 11/19/18 6:02 PM, juan wrote:
>> On the brighter side, now Xenan will have lots of company over there in
>> my CPunks Spam folder. I'm sure they will get along just fine, out of
>> sight and out of mind.
>
> I open Zen's messages to see if they include a dailystormer link. I
> can't
On November 18, 2018 1:56:31 PM PST, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
You lie about Vietnam as the American left formerly lied about
Cambodia
On 2018-11-19 08:17, Razer wrote:
You must mean US LaRouchieLabor Party 'left'.
Leftists are all NPCs, all speaking from one script, like an unhelpful
On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:20:38 -0500
Steve Kinney wrote:
>
>
> On 11/18/18 12:17 AM, juan wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 14:34:11 +1000
> > jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I ceased to be a leftist when
> >
> > uh oh...
>
> On the brighter side, now Xenan will have lots of company
On 11/18/18 12:17 AM, juan wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 14:34:11 +1000
> jam...@echeque.com wrote:
>
>
>> I ceased to be a leftist when
>
> uh oh...
On the brighter side, now Xenan will have lots of company over there in
my CPunks Spam folder. I'm sure they will get along just fine,
On November 18, 2018 2:09:47 PM PST, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:08:49AM -0800, Razer wrote:
>> "This is dedicated to the people in the building above me who
>> called the cops on me when I was just trying to get some money to
>> feed my daughter." ~Karl Marx,
On November 18, 2018 4:05:38 PM PST, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
>
Because nothing of the sort happened in Vietnam that's ever been
documented anywhere.
>
>On November 18, 2018 1:56:31 PM PST, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
>>> You lie about Vietnam as the American left formerly lied about
And you lie again.
On 2018-11-19 08:17, Razer wrote:
I might make mistakes, but I NEVER lie.
You are stubbornly insisting that the left did not abruptly and
uniformly change its line on Cambodia and on the liquidation of the kulaks
If you are making a mistake, you are making a mistake
Because nothing of the sort happened in Vietnam that's ever been
documented anywhere.
On November 18, 2018 1:56:31 PM PST, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
You lie about Vietnam as the American left formerly lied about Cambodia
On 2018-11-19 08:17, Razer wrote:
You must mean US LaRouchieLabor
On November 18, 2018 1:56:31 PM PST, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
>> Because nothing of the sort happened in Vietnam that's ever been
>documented anywhere.
>
>You lie about Vietnam as the American left formerly lied about Cambodia
You must mean US LaRouchieLabor Party 'left'. Anything to the
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:08:49AM -0800, Razer wrote:
> "This is dedicated to the people in the building above me who
> called the cops on me when I was just trying to get some money to
> feed my daughter." ~Karl Marx, Dedication, Communist Manifesto.
Ha! Is that actually true?
Because nothing of the sort happened in Vietnam that's ever been documented
anywhere.
You lie about Vietnam as the American left formerly lied about Cambodia
and Russia, because you intend to do to us what was done to them.
You lied before.
And you lie again.
Fool me once, shame on you,
On 2018-11-19 04:08, Razer wrote:
On November 17, 2018 8:17:38 PM PST, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
The left enthusiastically supported and indignantly denied the
liquidation of the Kulaks until Khruschev's secret speech, long after
the liquidation
There you go... Thinking the USSR was
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 02:40:21PM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> [12] https://jim.com/ChomskyLiesCites/Cites.htm#_ftnref12
>
> [13]
> https://jim.com/ChomskyLiesCites/When_we_knew_what_happened_in_Vietnam.htm
Nice collection of links/cites by the way!
Thanks :)
On November 17, 2018 8:17:38 PM PST, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
>The left enthusiastically supported and indignantly denied the
>liquidation of the Kulaks until Khruschev's secret speech, long after
>the liquidation
>
There you go... Thinking the USSR was actually a communist country.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 14:34:11 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> I ceased to be a leftist when
uh oh...
[12] https://jim.com/ChomskyLiesCites/Cites.htm#_ftnref12
[13]
https://jim.com/ChomskyLiesCites/When_we_knew_what_happened_in_Vietnam.htm
Within my lifetime there have been two enormous mass murders committed
by the left overseas, and each of them was simultaneously supported and
denied by the American left.
I ceased to be a leftist when I saw the flood of refugees fleeing the
bloodbath in Vietnam and fleeing the Khmer Rouge
The left enthusiastically supported and indignantly denied the
liquidation of the Kulaks until Khruschev's secret speech, long after
the liquidation
The left enthusiastically supported and indignantly denied the Cambodian
autogenocide, until the Vietnamese invaded and conquered, three years
The world knew of the mass murders in Vietnam and autogenocide of
Cambodia through the enormous flood of refugees produced by these
enormous crimes.
The left responded to both crimes in exactly the same way,
simultaneously gleefully rejoicing and smarmily denying.
Only after the Vietnamese
The left rejoiced at the liquidation of the kulaks, and only got around
to saying it was a bad thing when Stalin was condemned in the secret speech.
They rejoiced in the Vietnamese bloodbath at the same time as they
denied it.
They rejoiced in the Cambodian bloodbath at the same time as they
On 2018-11-18 06:24, Razer wrote:
On November 16, 2018 4:42:08 PM PST,jam...@echeque.com wrote:
The violence of leftists is continually and rapidly escalating. War
approaches.
The only question is: Do they wipe themselves out after killing a few
million or so, as in Khmer Rouge Cambodia
On November 16, 2018 4:42:08 PM PST, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
>The violence of leftists is continually and rapidly escalating. War
>approaches.
>
>The only question is: Do they wipe themselves out after killing a few
>million or so, as in Khmer Rouge Cambodia and Szechuan province, or
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