Re: [Clips] "Clippre": Police ask for tough new powers

The govt. puts the blame on the intelligence for failing and the intelligence community blames it on tough laws that prevent them from eavesdropping. Then they all go amending laws, show their commitment to the public and reach a win-win situation. Somebody somewhere should be responsible to take

Re: Private Homes may be taken for public good

This is very bad news. A lot of people will loose their homes to private 'economic developers'. It certainly means no right to have a permenant home. When suburbs start developing, the people are going to be evicted over and over. How long will this continue? If they cant do any good for individu

Fwd: Order of an integer

--- Cletus Emmanuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Two conjectures (or are they?): 1. The order of an integer 'a' modulo P^m = P^(m-1)*(Order of a mod P); where P is an odd prime . 2. If a, m, and n are elements of Z and (a,mn) = 1, then Order of a mod mn = QR/(Q,R); where Q = Order of a mod m and

Airport screeners could see X-rated X-rays

The Homeland Security Department's justification for the electronic strip searches has a certain logic. In field test after field test, it found that federal airport screeners using metal-detecting magnetometers did a miserable job identifying weapons concealed in carry-on bags or on the bodies of

Re: Secure MPC( a>b )

hi, --- Adam Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a simple protocol for this described in > Schneier's Applied > Crypto if you have one handy... Yes, I found it. Thankyou. --- cypherpunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That is > known as a multi party computation or MPC True, Its a secure M

Zero knowledge( a>b )

hi, If user A has the integer a and user B has the integer b, can a zero knowledge proof be developed to show that a>b,ahttp://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html

Re: Pi: Less Random Than We Thought

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let us remember, of course, that the digits of "pi" > are not random > whatsoever: they are the digits of pi! "Random is in > the eye of the > beholder." > -TD Exactly. What an algorithm gives out is always deterministic. We try to see if there

Re: Pi: Less Random Than We Thought

hi, --- Gil Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, is this sequence > of bits random: > 01100100010? How about this one: 00? From > a true random number > generator, both are completely possible and equally > valid. Random as in the sense guessable and thus posing a problem

Re: Pi: Less Random Than We Thought

hi, If you remember D.E Knuth's book on Semi-Numerical Algorithms he shows some annoying subsequences of pi in it which are far from random. Sarad. --- cypherpunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This doesn't really make sense. Either the digits > are random or they > are not. You can't be a littl

Cracking Blowfish in style

Mentioned on the Fox show "24." http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/04/blowfish_on_24.html http://video.google.com/videopreview?q=blowfish&time=3205000&page=1&docid=4616599194372365303&urlcreated=1114565588&chan=KTVU&prog=24+%7C+Day+4%3A+1%3A00AM-2%3A00AM&date=Mon+Apr+25+2005+at+9%3A00+

Rebalanced-RSA-CRT

hi, I am a little confused after reading this: http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/cryptobytes/CryptoBytes_January_2002_final.pdf RSA-CRT decryption is nearly four times faster than using only modular exponentiation for decryption. Is Rebalanced-RSA-CRT three times faster in decryption than RSA d

Google prioritises results for firefox and mozilla users

hi, news below: http://www.net4nowt.com/isp_news/news_article.asp?News_ID=2809 Google is way too fast. Whats the difference seraching using google in 10 milliseconds and in 5 milliseconds?Perhaps they are taking some load off their server? I fail to see how it is useful to the search client.

Re: [silk] Google Targeted ads - gmail (fwd from rishab@dxm.org)

hi, Maybe it was just a bot parsing the contents of the mail. Cannot say for sure. Reading every ones g-mail doesn't appear to be practical. Sarad. --- Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:17 17/03/2005, Biju Chacko wrote: > >Ok, that does it. I am now convinced that Google is > the

Re: [>Htech] Tracking a Specific Machine Anywhere On The Net (fwd from eugen@leitl.org)

hi, After looking at RFC1323 below http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1323.html#sec-4 the only reasonable option is to use the time old pseudorandom numbers for TCP sequence numbers in the TCP IP stack. Another option would be to synchronize the client with NTP but that wouldn't work

Re: GNFC launches Indian Digital Certification services

Never heard of it though the website mentions that it is an enterprise of the gujarat state government. Strange indeed! Sarad. --- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gujarat Narmada Valley Fertilizer Company??? > > ;-) > > Cheers, > RAH > --- > > >

Re: Researchers Combat Terrorists by Rooting Out Hidden Messages

hi, Tyler Durden wrote: >Are there certain images that can hide stego more >effectively? IN other words, >these images should have a lot of spectral energy in >the same frequency bands where Stego would normally >show. Yes, there should be a lot of noise in the image, some way or the other. If

Re: Searching with Images instead of Words

hi, They had been researching on this line in Indian Institue of Science, Bangalore. I think image searching has fundamental limits. For successfully matching two images, there should be a subset of information in both that totally match or match with a high probability. Expecting a front view

Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004

--- John Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I say I'm a > chemical engineer, it's not going to take much depth > of knowledge for the questioner to find out I don't > know things any chemical engineer would know, for > example. (It wouldn't be hard to come up with some > computerized syste

Re: International meet on cryptology in Chennai

--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They call it IndoCrypt http://www-rocq.inria.fr/codes/indocrypt2004/ Sarad. __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com

Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2004

>--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:41 PM -0600 12/14/04, Bruce Schneier wrote: > The theory is that eventually > the defender will > >reach the end of his memorized story, and that the > attacker will then > >notice the subtle changes in the defender as he > starts to make u

Re: The Values-Vote Myth

--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When asked about > the issue that most > influenced their vote, voters were given the option > of saying "moral > values." But that phrase can mean anything - or > nothing. Who doesn't vote > on moral values? If you ask an inept question, you > get

Blowfish C code still chokes

hello, The C code for the blowfish encryption algorithm posted in Mr.Schneier's site, acocording to Michael.B still 'chokes' as it is not corrected even though the bug report, mentions that it is a fatal bug. The bug report is available at http://www.schneier.com/blowfish-bug.txt His opinion is

Re: Perplexing proof

--- "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone explain how finding regularity in the > distribution of primes > > would affect any modexp() system? Suppose that you > have a function > F(i) which gives you the i-th prime. Since the PK > systems (eg RSA, DH) > use *randomn

Re: Maths holy grail could bring disaster for internet

hello, The security of elliptic curve cryptosystems depend on the difficulty in solving the elliptic curve discrete log problem(ECDLP). If any body gets to prove that P=NP, then all the public key cryptosystemts which rely on 'hard' problems will be useless for crypto. Sarath. --- Sunder <[EMAI

Vote for nobody

hello, the election commision of india had a proposal to the govt. that the voter should be able to vote for 'none of the above'. Though one can predict that such a proposal will never be approved by the government, it makes a lot of sense. Is any other democratic country seriously thinking of imp

Re: SHA-1 rumors

--- "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This would > SEEM to put the SHA family into jeopardy as well, > but we should know > more tomorrow evening. > > John Black Wasn't the attack to find two chosen messages hashing to the same value? But that doesn't mean that it is easy to find a

Re: Wired on Navy's new version of Onion Routing

hi, Since they are using symmetric keys, for a network of 'n' nodes, each node need to know the secret key that they share with the remaining (n-1) nodes.Total number of symmetric keys that need to be distributed is [n*(n-1)]/2. Key management is harder when they network gets larger. Sarath. -

Re: Identifying Air Marshals is Too Easy

You can pick a few of them by looking in the eye. They are usually very sharp people. Sarath. > "Secret Service people are notoriously known for > being snappy dressers," > said Capt. Steve Luckey, security chairman for the > Air Line Pilots > Association. __

Re: Diffie-Hellman question

hi, In Diffie Hellman key exchange we choose a large prime in Fp. The prime is publicly known,so is g,preferably a generator in Fp*. The reason that you might need to change the prime frequently is only if you donot choose g(element of)Fp to be a generator in Fp or the prime field be too small. I

Re: Diffie-Hellman question

If your > prime is 2000 bits, > then that should be safe for the foreseeable future, > unless quantum > computers turn out to be practical for breaking > moduli of this size. Discrete Logarithms in GF(2^607)have been calculated over polynomial basis. http://listserv.nodak.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=in

Re: inverse finding

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And are you trying to suggest (On Cypherpunks, of > all places) that the US > government should somehow regulate outsourcing? It doesnot matter what i think.Neither can I help it It already is http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3535893.stm Any way

Re: inverse finding

I can't stop outsourcing.Don't blame me.Blame your own govt. Sarath. --- "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:55 PM 3/12/04 -0800, Sarad AV wrote: > >if gcd(a,m)=1, > >for a*a inverse==1 mod m > >is it better to find >

inverse finding

hi, if gcd(a,m)=1, for a*a inverse==1 mod m is it better to find a invese=a^(m-2) mod m by binary exponentiation modulo m or is it more time efficient by extended euclids algorithm for large 'm'? thanks. Sarath. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, m

Re: I'd recognise that ear, anywhere

Perhaps,its because they need the funds. Have to pull wool over their eyes,to get the money. --- sunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > R. A. Hettinga wrote: > > > Hmmm... Actual progress on old news is new news, > right? > > Not when it pretends to be a new and wonderful idea, > and ignores its p

Re: Evidence is clear: Videos convict

doesn't sound good,hope all the court rooms will be able to authenticate the tape,I mean a very good editing tool and a CG expert working on it may come out with real frightening stuff. Who would say that the dinasours of jurrasic park didn't look real :) Sarath. --- "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PR

Re: Fwd: Re: Don't Panic - Not All Jobs Are Headed Overseas

> Most of the .com's I've worked at, the CEO was hired > to do one single > thing: pump up the image of the company to make it > look like a big jucy > steak when it was all crap internally, then sell the > turd off to a sucker. > This of course results in the immediate job loss > of 90% of t

RE: Gentlemen don't read each others' mail

They must be doing it all time.It now just turned out as a diplomatic issue. Sarath. --- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like the UN's going to need some encrypted > VoIP... > -TD > > > >From: "Major Variola (ret.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: "[EM

Re: 5 million on terrorism list

is it true or just another make up so as to make its citizens feel justified when they go invade another nation.How much effort does it take to get credible information of 5 million people oveseas? Sarath. --- "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Indian Govt bans pre-paid cell because of "separatists"

hi, The threat from seperatists is very real from north eastern states of india, the terrain is full of mountains and jungle, the army itself go in big groups in this region. Private gun owner ship(smuggled) are very high in this part of the country. Sarath. --- Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

cloak their secrets? (fwd from dave@farber.net)

if terrorists used compression instead of cryptography,it is not possible to determine that they are terrorists in the first place. If some one knows that,the given person is a terrorist,you can bust him whether or not he uses cryptography.Just because terrorist uses cryptograhy, doesn't allow o

Re: Lunar Colony

Setting up a base at mars is not a bad idea. Building a nuclear war head is a costly affair and no one complains about it,when u never know who will strike and where it will strike. So,spending billions of dollars for a mar mission is certainly not a problem.you never know when it might come in ha

Re: Engineers in U.S. vs. India

--- Jim Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Meaning that 150,000 engineers are employed in > Bangalore? Does this > include software engineers, HTML coders, > programmers, computer scientists? Computer scientists are very few. Most engineering colleges and teachers emphasis simple on coding. If y

Re: Engineers in U.S. vs. India

> "Today, Bangalore stands ahead of Bay Area, San > Francisco and California, > with a lead of 20,000 techies, while employing a > total number of 1.5 lakh > engineers." I live in bangalore,those figures are correct. > However, the educational system has to be seen to be > fully appreciated.

Re: Don't worry...it's just one of Saddam's doubles

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, of course "Saddam" is going to test > positive...he's apparently an > actual CLONE. > Actually, from what I understand this is the > 'original' Saddam (note how > much older he seems than the Saddams we've been > seeing in the press over the

Re: cypherpunks discussions

hi, Asking questions is part of learning. Unless one learns how is he expected to participate and make once in a while intelliget discussions? Give noobs some space and time to learn and over time they will contribute to the list. I think when I was a kid, it took me quite a few months to lear

Re: cypherpunks discussions

hi, I just a pick a book and learn and if i am in doubt, ofcourse i do have a lot of stupid ones. but thats how i learn. I have friends who will help me with my queries. I prefer not getting flamed like every one else and that too in quick succesion :-). so my guess is that as far as newbies are

Re: Jews Go Nuclear

hi, Enimies enemy=friend. but for how long? Sarath. --- Eric Cordian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So much for non-proliferation of "weapons of mass > destruction", right? > > http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,10613 > > - > > Israel deploys nuclear arms in submari

Re: Deniable data storage

hi, Keep K =Original Key P =Original Plain Text C =Original cipher text D=Dummy plain text C'=Dummy cipher text K'=Dummy key use a symmetric key encryption algorithm with a secret key 'k' over plain text 'P' to obtain cipher text 'C' Then we find k'= C (xor) D Preferably D is atleast as long

Re: "If you DON'T use encryption, you help the terrorists win"

HI, >TD wrote- > that, increased use of > crypto implies increased cost of monitoring. If a larger population starts using cryptography, we can compare it to U.S mail. The govt. any way can't go through all the snail mails due to its sheer volume. They rely on other methods to detect and nullif

Re: base conversion

helo, thank you for the reply. > The algorithm you describe is linear, not log. > Complexity measures are a > function of the size of the input data set in bits. > In general, a large > integer M will require an input around N = LOG2(M) > bits to represent. If we are to convert a k-bit integ

Re: base conversion

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,good work! --- Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, at 06:16 AM, Sarad > AV wrote: > > > hi, > > > > If we are to convert a k-bit integer n to a base b > > number,it takes us O(log n) if the base b is

Re: Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger

hi, You may then need to pass a bill that gives you the right to kick them out of office if they don't fullfill atleast 50% of what they promised in a given time frame. Sarath. --- John Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 04:37 AM 9/22/03 -0700, you wrote: > >hi, > > > >Vote for some one wh

Re: Drunken US Troops Kill Rare Tiger

hi, Vote for some one who promises freedom,democracy and development. Is that so hard? Sarath. --- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess in the end we are responsible for the > actions our government takes. > And if we remain ignorant and continue to benefit > (and do nothing to

Re: Schneier favoring drivers licenses for info superhighway?

I think its a joke taken out of context by the media. Sarath. --- "Major Variola (ret.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=56662§ion=BUSINESS&subsection=BUSINESS&year=2003&month=9&day=12 > > So why not institute mandatory education before > people

Re: Q on associative binary operation

two elements of the set. x*y (ie, left*top) can be followed. Regards Sarath. --- BillyGOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:14:20AM -0700, Sarad AV > wrote: > > hi, > > > > Table shown is completed to define 'associative&#x

Q on associative binary operation

hi, Table shown is completed to define 'associative' binary operation * on S={a,b,c,d}. *|a|b|c|d - a|a|b|c|d - b|b|a|c|d - c|c|d|c|d - d|d|c|c|d The operation * is associative iff (a*b)*c=a*(b*c) for all a,b,c element of set S. So can (a*d)*d=a*(d*d)=d conside

Re: paradoxes of randomness

hi, --- Dave Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . (Not > > saying you do, just quibbling with any claim that > readily calculated > > probabilities can be "surprising.") > I meant surprising for Sarad - Much of this > discussion pre-assumes that he > *does* misunderstand probability but is willing to

Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** Re: paradoxes of randomness

hi, Thank you-one more question. Will the information obtained from the 2^32 tests have a zero compression rate? If one of the occurance should yield all heads and one occurance yields all tails-there appears to be scope for compression. If the output is random,then it will have no mathametical

Re: paradoxes of randomness

hi, Hope you can help on this. --- Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hope you are not saying that you think there will > always be 16 heads > and 16 tails! In a perfectly random experiment,how many tails and how many heads do we get? thanks. Regards Sarath. __

Re: paradoxes of randomness

hi, --- martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Okay- I need 5 bits to represent 32 coins.I count > as > > coin 0,coin 1,... coin 31. > > No, you can't count coin 0. Or how will you > represent no coins? I thought i could use the null set to point to the first coin,simply as a one to one

Re: paradoxes of randomness

hi, Okay- I need 5 bits to represent 32 coins.I count as coin 0,coin 1,... coin 31. If it is a perfectly random fair coin throwing experiment,then 50 percent of them will be heads. So I know that 16 of them will be heads. What we do is i simply place all the 32 coins on the table in a row or col

paradoxes of randomness-errata

>it comes to such a question- >I do a fair coin throwing experiment with 64 coins. >To represent 64 coins,i need 5 bits of information. To represnet 64 coins,i need 6 bits of infomation :) Regards Sarath. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-us

Re: Blackout in NYC

hi, There wasn't much of traffic congestion on the manhatten roads when they showed the images on bbc. The manhatten road network is used in examples of deflection routing. Also roads every where should be like that :-) In India during summer-we have around 8 hours of power cut daily. For a m

Q on associative binary operation

hi, how do we complete this table Table shown may be completed to define 'associative' binary operation * on S={a,b,c,d}. Assume this is possible and compute the missing entries *|a|b|c|d - a|a|b|c|d - b|b|a|c|d - c|c|d|c|d - d| | | | Its clear for commutativit

Re: Nuking kasmir (Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV)

helo, > > Hilarious, dude. Who got nukes first? India. Nope US did. India got after US and before pakistan.Pak claims to have nukes since 1983,though they were tested only in 1999-his report comes frm pakistan. > > See your own propoganda site, US is not the only counrty who can do that :-)

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

hi, Why are the suicide bombers after US troops-its the hate.It does work .Yesterday at najaf(iraq)-a family of 8 women and atleast 2 children were killed by allied troops.They claimed that the vehicle sped towards an allied check post.So they fired warning shots to *stop* the vehicle. When it di

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

hi, yes-thats probabaly why they nuked hirsoshima and nagasaki. Dont undermine the hate.There was no logic either.There was no logic in nuking thousand of people in hirsohma saying their existance is less important to thousands of people who might live,if the city was nuked. Sarath.

Re: CDR: RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

--- Damian Gerow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And then the whole world dies, because of ... what? > > Seriously, I *highly* doubt that any nation at this > time would *seriously* > think of bombing another nuclear-enabled nation with > a nuclear weapon. It's > just suicide. Well-pakistan has

Re: Missile -launchers in iraq

hi, Blitz comes with high casualities.Shock and awe technique can use troops paratrooping into baghdad.But casualities are always unacceptable to the U.S. So they do it the conventional way. Sarath. --- Ken Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tyler Durden wrote: > > [...] > > > PS: Anyone notic

RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

helo, --- John Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Be fair about this. We own the skies above Baghdad, > bit too much, but it's not like we're targeting > civilian areas. If we > were, the images from Baghdad would be very > different; not just one market > with a bomb crater, and one hospital

RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

und troops fearing casualities.So may be if a country has 500,000 soldiers even US might not win a war against them. Regards Sarath. --- "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > On 28 Mar 2003 at 1:57, Sarad AV wrote: > yesterday another 1000 died. >

Missile -launchers in iraq

hi, on the first or second day of the war-iraqi missiles hit kuwait-4 to 5 of them. After that there is no word of any more strikes in kuwait or else where.What is Iraq waiting for? Regards Sarath. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' N

iraqi civilians

hi, well here is the news on death of iraqi civilians in basra. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030328/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_basra&cid=716&ncid=716 I think the reverse is true.After the 'desert rats' were forced out of basra-the iraqi's were using anti air craft guns on US sol

RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

hi, All this happening on the worlds greatest demcoracy. may be you read this news. http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=tech&cat=hackers_and_crackers Unofficial reports are that 500 iraqi's died 2 days ago and day before yesterday another 1000 died.This is the word comming from Saudi-fro

Re: Things are looking better all the time

hi, That cannot possibly even happen-by mistake.Al-jazeera is qatar based.They might hit a chinese embassy but not AL-Jazeera. 1500 turkish troops moved into north iraq-US cannot immediately do any thing about it since flying over Turkish air space is important for them. Sarath. (Before Al Jaze

Regarding linear recurrences.

hi, Need help on understanding the following marix multiplication. let _ denote subscript. w=32 bits(0 to 31) let X be a 32 bit vector X={X_(w -1),x_(w-2),..x_0} A= |1 0 . .| |0 .| |. . | |. .| |a_(w-1) a_(w-2)

Re: Things are looking better all the time

hi, They are not working very well or US since the iraqi's are using gps jammers and US are already in a row with russians claiming that they sold it to iraq. Regards Sarath. --- Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 03:30 AM, Ken Brown > wrote: > > > Declan McCul

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

hi, it doesnt matter as long as Al-Jazeera is live and kicking and the camera's are rolling. The highly classified bomb creates a brief pulse of > microwaves powerful enough to fry computers, blind > radar, silence radios, trigger crippling power > outages and disable the electronic ignitions in

RE: Things are looking better all the time

hi, for every bomb that explodes in U.S,civil liberties will keep comming down.This is not the case in other countries were more bombs are hurled or exploded daily.Though they are less concerned about their citizens,they are concerned of their civil liberties(atleast to some extent). Regards Sara

Re: Things are looking better all the time

hi, > The US now has troops in over 100 countries. That's > a lot of targets to > pick at. Imagine losing a soldier somewhere once a > day, everyday for the > next 10 years. Maybe somebody will notice? Thats what happens in india over the pakistan border.Some body or the other gets killed dai

Re: Libertarian Party expresses "concern" over war -- but does not

hi, Terrorism only increases.Saying meet fire with fire is only an anology.The whole world is against the war but they are all oppurtunists-they will strike only when they can.The war may do more damage even than all the oil it can get. Regards Sarath. --- Mike Rosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re:Liberation party express concern over war

hi, Starting a war with saudi is a simple thing.How ever unless they don't find enough oil in iraq,they will turn onto KSA. How ever Saudi with Mecca and Madina is a dangerous country to attack.Saudi will surely take it as a war on muslims and the impact of that is severe.Saudi is the holy countr

Re: Spending a billion dollars an hour produces a hell of a light show!

hi, Every one is a suspect-Let me check all your pockets.Stand in the line syria,egypt,iran,korea! Whats happening with this world. Sarath. --- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "As the Iraqis themselves said, and I paraphrase > (because the quote is not > handy): "If the U.S. says th

When is iraq expected to fall.

hi, how long does US analysts expect iraq to be completely occupied by US and allied troops? Regards Sarath. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

RE: Trivial OPT generation method?

hi, > You probably know this if you use it, but > /dev/random is the most > "random" one, as it always uses system entropy, > rather than falling > back on an algorithm to generate more bits than are > available in > the pool. Its always better to choose an algorithm because it has *known* pro

birthday attack

hi, http://www.x5.net/faqs/crypto/q95.html If some function, when supplied with a random input, returns one of k equally-likely values, then by repeatedly evaluating the function for different inputs, we expect to obtain the same output after about 1.2k1/2. For the above birthday paradox, replace

Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

hi, > I've not followed it closely, but Powell claims to > have a tape of > Bin Laden talking to "Iraqi's". Al Jazerra denys > it's real. This is > all from NPR. The game is afoot, let's see who can > deliver the bigger > lie. A tape as an evidence?Is a tape still considered as a valid piece o

ICBM's and space programs

hi, Would countries with an advanced space program and with capilities of launching satellites have ICBM capabilities.if yes can they be sucessfully launched with the knowledge that they can successfully launch medium range missiles (2000 to 3000 km range). Regards Sarath. _

Re: Desert Spam(The war)

surprises iraq can come up with. Regards Sarath. --- Mike Rosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: > > > There is a new oil pipe line being completed > through > > turkey-caspian sea.once thats over the war should > > start. &g

Re: Desert Spam

hi, Iraqi high ranking officers had the oppurtunity to defect in the 1991 war too. By the way how many of these officers who go for battle ever check e-mail. --- "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > radio broadcasts and leaflets > dropped from airplanes > inste

Re: Definitions, Proofs, Derivations

hi, > > Then, if any two or more axioms of an > > alleged mathematical > > theory are found to be inconsistent with each > other, > > the whole theory > > collapses." > there will be no inconsistency in a formal axiomatic systems-but can any one point me to a contradicting set of axioms in an ax

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

hi, So where does that put privacy to.Your whole life outside the house can be monitered-when there are many cameras. May be the worlds air getting polluted isn't so bad-atleast we could put anti-pollution masks and protect our identity :) Regards Sarath. --- Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Definitions, Proofs, Derivations

hi, Thats a beautiful one. --- Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To assert that a theorem is > false means to deny > one or more of the axioms. However, to assert that a > theorem is true does > not necessarily mean to assert the truth of all > axioms. yes-it only means its time to update ou

Re: Liars Paradox & Fermi paradox

observe and not what we speculate-so may be there is no point in speculating since we only end up with same questions and our understanding gets no better than it was. Regards Sarath. --- Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 12:39 AM 01/04/2003 -0800, Sarad AV wrote: > >Ther

Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

hi, --- Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: > > > how do you know that apples and oranges are not > same > > or are same? > > Its the way you look at it. > > No, ever see Apple and Oranges cross-breed? well-

Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

hi, --- Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: > > > As you already see-what you say is correct for > your > > definition of proof and axiom. > > Here is the fundamental error in your thinking, you > are trying to a

Re: Liars Paradox & Fermi paradox

ow away this paradox like every other paradox? Regards Sarath. --- Mike Rosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: > > > As it says-they are self referecial > statements.What do > > we learn from the liars paradox? > > > > We

Liars Paradox

hi, with reference to http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/p/par-liar.htm it says The Liar Paradox is an argument that arrives at a contradiction by reasoning about a Liar Sentence. The most familiar Liar Sentence is the following self-referential sentence: (1) This sentence is false. Experts in

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

hi, --- Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: > > > An axiom is an improvable statement which is > accepted > > as true. > > An axiom is a statement which is -assumed to be > universaly required-. > That is -

Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

hi, --- Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote: > > > Does a paradox ever help in understanding any > thing? > > Yes, it can demonstrate that you aren't asking the > right questions within > the correct context.

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