Re: Gubmint Tests Passport RFID...

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whaddya know. Thompson said something that didn't make me want to beat > him to death... Too bad for you that I cannot say the same about what you write. > > I have a different threat model. > > I've reached more or less the same conclusion. Or at

Re: Gubmint Tests Passport RFID...

--- "Roy M. Silvernail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > And since one's passport essentially boils down to a chip, why not > implant > > it under the skin? > > You say that as though it hasn't been considered. Good point. As many of us know, there

Re: Well, they got what they want...

--- "J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Steve Thompson wrote: > > > --- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > pretend you hate. But there is an up-side: you're too fucking stupid > to > > be of

Re: Well, they got what they want...

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's an old pattern to character assassins: "I've attacked you > publically > but I really don't want to have defend what I've said or reply to > suggestions about my own motivation." And psychopaths are sometimes said to accuse their victims of

Re: Well, they got what they want...

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, apparently you haven't been getting any of my posts to the > Al-Qaeda > node, otherwise the context would be clear. I'm not even going to bother with you anymore. Your motivation is quite clear enough, and any further bad-faith back-and-forth

Re: Well, they got what they want...

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >This premise, however, depends somewhat on the observation that the > >so-called left and right-wing divisions of the political spectrum are > >largely illusory. The most strident critics of diametric political > >opposites in the press and elsewhere

Re: Well, they got what they want...

--- John Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Jul 23, 2005 9:17 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Well, they got what they want... > > ... > >Saw a local security expert on the news, and he stated the > >obvious: Rand

Re: Well, they got what they want...

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From: Steve Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Well, they got what they want... > >Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:01:30 -0400 (EDT) > > > >--- Tyler Durden <

Re: Well, they got what they want...

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...I'm sure most are aware that random searches has begun here in NYC, > at subway stations and in the LIRR. Contraband (drugs, etc...) can get > the owner arrested. The next step, of course, will be to start grabbing > anyone carrying terrorist propa

Re: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th (fwd)

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah...it's pretty fuckin' pointless. Tantamount to proving a guy > pointing a > gun at you is actually pointing a gun at you, TO the guy pointing the > gun at > you. Oh, I don't know about that. What about proving that someone is pointing a [gun

Re: Stash Burn?

--- "A.Melon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Steve Thompson scribbled: > > --- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [incinerating the evidence] > > > What's wrong with this idea? > > The Alabama hillbilly remains free to harass you the next

Re: zombied ypherpunks (Re: Email Certification?)

--- Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And then, of course, in the off chance they can't actually break the > > > message under that flag, they can merely send a guy out with > > > binoculars or whatever. > > > Don't forget about rubber-hose cryptanlysis. Rumour has it that > > method is

Re: Stash Burn?

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, this reminded me of another brilliant idea. > > Why don't some cars have a little tiny furnace for stash destruction? > > If you've got an on-board stash and some Alabama hillbilly with a badge > pulls you over, you just hit the button and have

RE: zombied ypherpunks (Re: Email Certification?)

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Well, they could just tune in on Echelon, which really seems to be > >reality. There is no need for "infinite" resources to do such a thing. > > Echelon ain't a radio, and not all members of TLAs have access. Indeed, > you > can be damn sure that t

Re: Bypassing Local Authorities

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hum. > > Been thinking about something. Seems to me that the big TLAs will > probably > try to avoid detection, whenever possible, by even local authorities > such as > Police, security companies, etc...One of these could inadvertently (or > 'advert

Re: End of a cypherpunk era?

--- Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Still, if we could achieve mutual respect and freedom in the physical > world, we would happily pay the price of increased rudeness online. Speak for yourself. Regards, Steve

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

--- Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2005-02-15T13:23:37-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: > > --- "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > As governments were created to smash property rights, they are > > > always

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

--- Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2005-02-16T13:31:14-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: > > --- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > Property is like rights. We create it inherently, because we're > human,

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Property is like rights. We create it inherently, because we're human, > it > is not bestowed upon us by someone else. Particularly if that property > is > stolen from someone else at tax-time. Bzzt. I call you on your bullshit. Supposedl

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

[snip] > > Agreements and accords such as the Berne convention and the DCMA, to > say > > nothing of human-rights legislation, are hobbled by the toothlessness > of > > enforcement, pulic apathy to others' rights, and a load of convenient > > exceptions to such rules made for the agents of state. >

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

--- "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > As governments were created to smash property rights, they are > always everywhere necessarily the enemy of those with property, > and the greatest enemy of those with the most property. Uh-huh. Perhaps you are using the term 'governme

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

--- ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James A. Donald wrote: > > > The state was created to attack private property rights - to > > steal stuff. Some rich people are beneficiaries, but from the > > beginning, always at the expense of other rich people. > > More commonly states defend the rich a

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

--- Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 09:09:56AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: > > > There is nothing stopping you from writing your own operating > > system, so Linus did. > > Yes. Corporate lawyers descending upon your ass, because you -- > allegedly -- > are in

Re: Hack License

--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quoted: > > > Hack License > By Simson Garfinkel March 2005 [snip] > > Stallman wrote in 1985, "the golden rule requires that if I like a > program > I must share it with other people

Re: Jim Bell WMD Threat

--- John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The FBI continues to claim Jim Bell is a WMD threat > despite having no case against him except in the media, > but that conforms to current FBI/DHS policy of fictionalizing > homeland threats. > > > http://www.edgewood.army.mil/downloads/bwirp/mdc_ap

RE: What is a cypherpunk?

Anonymous wrote: >I challenge anyone here to answer the question of what it means to be >a cypherpunk. What are your goals? What is your philosophy? Do you In this day and age, do you realy expect anyone to answer questions like that openly and honestly? Really. There's a similar and simpl

Re: [i2p] weekly status notes [feb 1] (fwd from jrandom@i2p.net)

--- Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Forwarded message from jrandom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > From: jrandom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:03:02 -0800 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [i2p] weekly status notes [feb 1] [snip] > Thats all I have for the moment (

RE: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

--- "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seeing as it comes out of the TCG, this is almost certainly > the enabling hardware for Palladium/NGSCB. Its a part of > your computer which you may not have full control over. Well we all know that having complete control over one's own computer is

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

Speaking of mistakes I seem to have pasted the wrong message text when I sent my reply to Mr. Trei. I regret the unfortunate duplication and consequent waste of list bandwidth. --- --- "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [mistake rate] > If, in a capital case, wher

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

--- "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Thompson > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:13 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > &

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [mistake rate] > And of course there's the fairly obvious point that lots of those in > prison > "correctly" are there for drug-related "crimes". Said crimes would > almost > completely dissappear and drug usage would drop if many of those drugs > wer

RE: Ronald McDonald's SS

--- "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > On 24 Jan 2005 at 10:34, Tyler Durden wrote: > > "Military and civilian participants said in interviews that > > the new unit has been operating in secret for two years -- in > > Iraq (news - web sites)," > > > > Well hell, it's doing su

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [airport security] > More indications of an emerging 'Brazil' scenario, as opposed to a > hyper-intelligent super-fascist state. As if. There already is a kind of intelligent super-fascist state in place thoughout much of society. My bugbears of the

Re: Vive le rubber 'ose: 'The Interrogators' and 'Torture': Hard Questions

--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The New York Times > > January 23, 2005 > > 'The Interrogators' and 'Torture': Hard Questions > By ROBERT D. KAPLAN [snip] What a load of shit. The real

Re: Cpunk Sighting

--- "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 04:12 PM 1/21/05 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: > >John Young, Cryptome strikes again. NPR is running a story on all of > the > >"sensitive information" available. Funny shit! > > LATimes ran something too! And even included a link to t

Re: Carnivore No More

--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 12:31 AM +0100 1/16/05, Eugen Leitl wrote: > >it is believed that unspecified > > commercial surveillance tools are employed now. > > It was always AGGroup's Skyline package to begin with. > > The FBI is like NASA. They never build anything,

Re: Brin needs killing, XIIV

To leave the attributions and headers, or not? --- Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Forwarded message from David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > From: David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:02:03 -0500 > To: Ip > Subject: [IP] more on No expectation

Re: [IP] Cell phones for eavesdropping

--- "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Cell phones for eavesdropping - finally some public "chatter" > > Of course, the low-budget govt snoops go for the basestations > and landline links. Oh, I don't know about that. What would

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

The subject header is very nice. --- "J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Several points come to mind: > > (1) Mr. Monahan seems to think that lies on police reports are an > artifact > of 9/11. Welcome to the real world Mr. Monahan. You say that like it's a bad thing. The real worl

Re: Steve Thompson

take this digression, what with the limited information that is available in context, and so we can only speculate as to what relation Mr. Erickson's possible stoopidity has to the topic at hand, which is (if we are to take the message at face value), that he is concerned with a complaint about

Re: Insurrectionist covers

--- Justin Guyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2004-12-11T08:10:27-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: > > [snip] > > This is what happens when one picks up ideas from people who present > them > > second-hand (or at even greater distances from their origin) and who >

Re: Steve Thompson

--- "J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: > > > Out of nowhere cometh Steve Thompson, and sayeth he all manner of > > things. But, while his mouth moveth one way, he seemeth to

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

--- "J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Bill Stewart wrote: > > > The more serious problem is what this means for computer evidence > > search and seizure procedures - the US has some official rules about > > "copy the disk and return the computer" that came out of

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lions and Tigers and Steganography, Nell... > > For those of you without a program, here is the new, official, Horsemen > of > the Infocalypse Scorecard: > > At 3:14 PM -0400 10/3/04, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > > Horseman Color Ch

Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...

--- "J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Steve Thompson wrote: > > > > (STANDING OVATION) (SOUNDS OF MANY HANDS CLAPPING) > > Thank you Steve, for that short but entertaining look into the dark > recesses of our

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

--- "R.W. (Bob) Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Thompson wrote: > >[assholes] > > You tell them, Steve I believe I just did. > Insanity is a great cover for an insurectionist! I suppose it could be, although I am give to belive that resident

Re: Timing Paranoia

--- "R.W. (Bob) Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of the tools currently being used in the cognitive sciences is the > measurement of reaction time to stimulus. What's this? The cognitive equivalent to wacking someone on the knee with a rubber hammer to measure the mentak kick reflex

Re: tangled contexts

--- "R.W. (Bob) Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Process and perception > [snip] > We have lots of timing to tap. Response times, flicker fusion times, > saccades, pulse, peristalsis, menstruation. The royal road to cognitive > illumination is the path of chronus. If you go about tappin

Re: Timing Paranoia

--- "Roy M. Silvernail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Thompson wrote: > > [imagine] > > Imagine using observed timing to conclude that your agent provocateur > operates from geostationary orbit. That would be a neat trick considering the variety of like

Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > Sounds like a fuckin' party, if you ask me! Quit bogartin' that J... Oh, sure. It wasn't all bad. Just ask the chick who is known in certain circles as Nefertiti. (That's her code-name). We had an excellent time together; or at least we

Re: Insurrectionist covers

--- Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2004-12-10T15:50:22-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: [snip] > > state's personality, the state has the right, nay, obligation to > preserve > > its identity unchanged. (Isn't this pretty much polysci 101 > material?) &

Re: Insurrectionist covers

--- "R.W. (Bob) Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Thompson wrote: > > > --- "R.W. (Bob) Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Colouring outside the lines] > > > Yes, you have a point there.I guess a better cover would b

Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...

--- John Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>[May] > > Maybe, maybe not. The thing I always find interesting and annoying > about Tim May's posts is that he's sometimes making really clearly > thought out, intelligent points, and other times spewing out nonsense so > crazy you can't believe it'

Re: tempest back doors

--- "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Perhaps I am stupid. I don't know how one would go about modifying > >application software to include a 'back door' that would presumably > >enhance its suceptibility to TEMPEST attacks. Isn't tempest all about > EM > >spectrum signal dete

Re: Insurrectionist covers

--- "R.W. (Bob) Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Thompson wrote: > > [take back the night] > > Yep, the state fights to preserve its "life" > while the people suffer their own. > The mistake of top down thinking > lies in the inab

Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...

--- Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Furlong: > > > Random racist ranting is also required. There are some racist > > assholes currently posting on cpunks, but none have quite the May > > flavor. > > LOL > > You can say that again. Here are a few examples of what this once > ren

Re: Michael Riconosciuto, PROMIS

--- "privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Thompson: > > > If that's true, then the government couldn't have stolen it. > > However, I suspect that mainfraim code of any sophistication is > > rarely released into the

Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...

--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:12 PM -0500 12/6/04, Steve Thompson wrote: > >But I cannot prove > >it. > > Tee hee... > > This from the guy who took over where Choate left off. Although at least you include the article tex

Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...

--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 3:34 PM -0500 12/6/04, Steve Thompson wrote: > >I rather suspect that > >the people who 0wn the upstream pipe from my points of access are > toying > >with their ability to interpose their data in

Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...

--- "Roy M. Silvernail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > R.A. Hettinga wrote: > >Oh, *my*... > > > >Where is Detweiller, now that we need him? > > Huh? I thought that *was* Detweiller! Detwellier had an oral fixation, and while I may like a good argument as much as anyone, mere talk about sex neve

Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...

--- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Bonus question: > > > >Who is the author of the origin question that inspired the copycats? > Well, I remember May posting it but I don't think he was the ultimate > author. I suspect whoever posted it recently in fact dug it out of the > archives

Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...

--- Steve Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Bonus question: > > > > > >Who is the author of the origin question that inspired the copycats? > > > Well, I remember May posting it but I don

Re: Michael Riconosciuto, PROMIS

--- Neil Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 20:58 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: > >[PROMIS] > Yes, I have found that puzzling too. > > Articles I have read refer to the original version being "in the public > domain". You'd

Re: Michael Riconosciuto, PROMIS

--- Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I read a few old email messages I had and stumbled over some > interesting material relating to NSA, CIA and one Michael > Riconosciuto among other things. > [PROMIS] Does anyone here have a good idea of what the PROMIS code actuall does; what its ch

Re: "Word" Of the Subgenius...

--- Neil Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 08:46 -0500, R.W. (Bob) Erickson wrote: > > > To be bobbed is never the goal, > > but bobless fear steers the undifferentiated bob > > along conventional paths, > > to the abattoir > > > Where is Tim May when when you need hi

RE: Optical Tempest FAQ

--- Sunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMHO, if you light up two or more other identical CRT's and have them > display random junk it should throw enough noise to make it worthless - > (and would put out enough similar RF to mess with RF tempest) there > might > be ways to filter the photons

Re: Lockheed and the Future of Warfare

--- "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > November 28, 2004 > Lockheed and the Future of Warfare > By TIM WEINER > > LOCKHEED MARTIN doesn't run the United States. But it does help run a > breathtakingly big part of i

Re: Anti-RFID outfit deflates Mexican VeriChip hype

--- Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [further snippage] > > Pray the draft is women-empowered so there's no need > > to shanghai the overaged, over-decrepit, over-funny-loving, > > inbred-feeders, pray for the Condies and the Maggies to > > fight the game

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

--- "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [permanent holy war] > Steve Thompson > > True, but there's a question of the waste of resources and > > man-years that would come from such a circumstance. > > All the oil money has been wasted,

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

--- "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > James A. Donald: > > > Seems to me that permanent civil war in Iraq provides > > > Americans with the same benefits as democracy in Iraq, > > > though considerably more reliably. > &g

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

--- "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > James A. Donald: > > > > And the problem with a civil war in Iraq is? > > On 24 Nov 2004 at 2:42, Bill Stewart wrote: > > Well, once you get past the invalid and dishonest parts of > > Bush's 57 reasons We Need to Invade Iraq Right Now

Re: [osint] Group to launch terrorist database

Chris Kuethe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] Quoting from http://bofh.ntk.net/Bastard3.html I didn't really need to be reminded of that... Now I have diet coke all over my keyboard. Shame on you. > == > I make a mental note of his license plate. In fact > , I did that 60 times a minut

Re: [osint] Group to launch terrorist database

> "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [from osint] > Wednesday, November 17, 2004> Group to launch terrorist database> BY Diane Frank> Published on Nov. 17, 2004[snip] > The Terrorism Knowledge Base is the latest Web-based > resource from the National Memorial Institute for the > Preventio

Re: Printers betray document secrets

I seem to recall hearing a rumour that suggested that for years now, photocopiers have been leaving their serial number on the copies they produce.  If true, and I am inclined to believe it, it follows naturally that something similar might happen with laser-printers and ink-jet printers.Ian Grigg

Re: Airport insanity

--- Damian Gerow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thus spake James A. Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > [15/10/04 15:19]: >>[laws making stupidity mandatory for gov't officials] > > I've had more than one comment about my ID photos that amount to basically: "You look like you've just left a terrorist tra

Re: Airport insanity

--- John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most of the Boston Red Sox team look as if they have > just > come from a terrorist training camp for blind, > handless barbers, > decked-out in ill-fitting sports gear, staring > wild-eyed at > RPGs being fired at their heads and nuts, swinging > clu

Re: Keith Henson Needs Help

"R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keith Henson Needs Help (MLP)By BaldrsonWed Sep 15th, 2004 at 07:42:14 AM EST[snip]Anyway, back to the question: Why should you care?Maybe you don't like Scientology.Maybe you like Keith.Maybe you just like to mess with the California government.What

Re: The Mechanics of Skyscraper Collapse

--- Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote: > > > I think the nearly perfectly vertical collapse of > the WTC towers was > > because of the pancaking of each floor into the > floors below, as shown > > in the videos. Whether removal of one support > triggers

Re: Someone explain...Give cheese to france?

--- "Kevin S. Van Horn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Thompson wrote: > > >That's too logical, > > > No, it's not. Logical actors dominate in the economy > because those prone > to excessive irrationality end up with little money >

Re: Someone explain...Give cheese to france?

"Kevin S. Van Horn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tyler Durden wrote: > > Let's take one of my famous extreme examples. > > Let's say a section of > > the New Jersey Turnpike gets turned over to a > > private company, which > > now owns and operates this section. > > > > So...now let's say I'm blac

Re: [more car-trivia] Re: To Steve Schear, re Rome, Architects, Shuttles, Congress

--- Adam Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as evolutionary pressures, aggressive and > fast driving is far > more dangerous, however adrenaline inducingly fun > that may be. Depends on one's strategy. When riding a motorcycle, there are two aggressive driving principles I observe at al

Re: ABCNEWS.com : New 'Brain Fingerprinting' Could Help Solve Crimes (fwd)

--- Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20030211_157.html I was under the impression that a standard technique in use today was to gauge a `suspect's' reaction to key words, phrases, faces, or even situations; anything from whether someone responded to

Re: "Touching shuttle debris may cause bad spirits to invade your body!"

--- Eric Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Feb > I'm not sure which is more irritating-- the obvious > way in which > the govermedia manipulate the issue, or their > automatic assumption that > americans are too stupid/criminal to turn in all the > parts they > find if NASA just said "w

Re: smartcards

Quoting Trei, Peter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > The phone SW world is nowhere near as closed as you think. > > * Thousands of developers are writing Java applets for Japanese iMode > phones. > * Hundreds are developing applets for the Blackberry 5810 and 5820 phones > (free Java-based IDS from RIM).

Re: smartcards

Quoting James A. Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > -- > James A. Donald: > > > When Chaumian money comes into wide use, I think that for > > > most end users we will have to stash all unused tokens > > > inside smartcards. > > Someone: > > Here in Hong Kong, contactless "Octopus" smartcards (based

Re: IMF/IRS/US, The truth must come out eventually...

Quoting Nob Odie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Any comments? Yes. Your repetition of the phrase `get the disks' makes me think of Mormonism, but I can't explain exactly why that is. Regards, Steve -- Just fake it. -- Include "35da3c9e079dcf68ec3a608e8c0a47f6" somewhere in your message when yo

Re: mil disinfo on cryptome

Quoting Khoder bin Hakkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [faustine] > More interestingly, s/he neglects to include this disqualifier from > State Secrets: > > >>Allegiance to the United States > > Conditions that could raise a security concern and may be disqualifying > include: > > d. Involvement

Re: mil disinfo on cryptome

Quoting John Young ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > To be blunt, no official can be trusted, period, nor can > any of their contractors who have agreed to abide > the official rules. Which, as oft stated here, includes > all state-empowered and privilieged professionals, > from architects to lawyers to doc

Re: Small Arms Failure in Afghan (caliberpunks)

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > -- > James A. Donald: > > > Military weapons are generally not designed to kill quickly. > > > A badly wounded man who takes a long time dying is a much > > > bigger drain on your enemy's resources. > > Major Variola > > True for snipers, but