Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-05 Thread Bill Martz
I didn't remember exactly what it was about, but I found the post, and it was about converting to BW: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/black-printing-problem/19048/6 I appreciate the explanation. On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 10:42 PM Matt Maguire wrote: > Le sam. 5 sept. 2020 à 11:55, Bill Martz > a écrit

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-04 Thread Matt Maguire
Le sam. 5 sept. 2020 à 11:55, Bill Martz a écrit : > I will have to dig through my Pixls posts to find this, but I posted about > a problem using channel mixer, and I received that suggestion in reply. I > tried it, and it fixed the problem as far as I could tell. I will see if I > can find it to

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-04 Thread Bill Martz
I will have to dig through my Pixls posts to find this, but I posted about a problem using channel mixer, and I received that suggestion in reply. I tried it, and it fixed the problem as far as I could tell. I will see if I can find it tomorrow. On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 2:36 PM Matt Maguire wrote:

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-04 Thread Matt Maguire
Le sam. 5 sept. 2020 à 03:55, Bill Martz a écrit : > Try moving channel mixer above filmic rgb in the list on the right side. > Ctrl+Shft+right click on channel mixer module. Then move up the list. I > sometimes have trouble getting it to land exactly where I want it to be, so > if it is not wher

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-04 Thread Bill Martz
Try moving channel mixer above filmic rgb in the list on the right side. Ctrl+Shft+right click on channel mixer module. Then move up the list. I sometimes have trouble getting it to land exactly where I want it to be, so if it is not where you want it, move it again. On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 12:05 P

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-03 Thread William Ferguson
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/5578 On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:18 PM Mikael Ståldal wrote: > Thanks, good to know. (Would be nice if this was documented though.) > > /Mikael > > > On 2020-09-03 18:12, Matt Maguire wrote: > > The problem is that the channel mixer has a clamping f

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-03 Thread Mikael Ståldal
Thanks, good to know. (Would be nice if this was documented though.) /Mikael On 2020-09-03 18:12, Matt Maguire wrote: The problem is that the channel mixer has a clamping function which limits the values that are allowed to pass through. This is not appropriate behaviour for the scene-referre

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-03 Thread Matt Maguire
Le ven. 4 sept. 2020 à 02:21, Graham Byrnes a écrit : > If you stick to "graymode" or the color modes (outputs R,G,B) it should be > fine: there is a bug that clips large signals to 1, which is really a bug > but has potentially been incorporated in many models. Certainly if you keep > the sum of

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-03 Thread Graham Byrnes
If you stick to "graymode" or the color modes (outputs R,G,B) it should be fine: there is a bug that clips large signals to 1, which is really a bug but has potentially been incorporated in many models. Certainly if you keep the sum of values to 1, it should rarely cause a problem. For HSL, yes, t

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-03 Thread Matt Maguire
The problem is that the channel mixer has a clamping function which limits the values that are allowed to pass through. This is not appropriate behaviour for the scene-referred part of the pixel pipe, as it can result in exactly the symptoms you report. The devs are aware of this, and there are mul

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer bug?

2020-09-03 Thread Mikael Ståldal
After playing around with the channel mixer on some pictures, I get an odd effect sometimes. Just enabling the module with default settings sometimes affects the picture, the histogram jumps to the left and I lose detail in the highlights. Seems to happen when I also use filmic RGB. Is this int

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer

2020-09-02 Thread Bill Martz
The channel mixer in dt, as it is in Raw Therapee and GIMP, is a GUI. What you need to understand is mixing. Here's a video that has the use of channel mixer at the beginning of the editing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUP1TxVeL44 Here's a guide that I developed to help me understand what happ

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer

2020-09-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Mikael Ståldal [09-02-20 09:32]: > Thanks, but those are not about Darktable: > > https://discuss.pixls.us/t/please-help-me-to-understand-channel-mixer/665 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgTLw31PVNs > > > On 2020-09-02 14:23, Bill Martz wrote: > > Here are some links: > > > > https://d

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer

2020-09-02 Thread Mikael Ståldal
Thanks, but those are not about Darktable: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/please-help-me-to-understand-channel-mixer/665 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgTLw31PVNs On 2020-09-02 14:23, Bill Martz wrote: Here are some links: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/mastering-color-with-lab-tone-curves-revisit

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer

2020-09-02 Thread Bill Martz
Here are some links: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/mastering-color-with-lab-tone-curves-revisited/19854/17 https://discuss.pixls.us/t/please-help-me-to-understand-channel-mixer/665 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgTLw31PVNs https://discuss.pixls.us/t/swift-play-with-the-channel-mixer/17244 https://d

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer

2020-09-01 Thread Matt Maguire
The channel mixer is basically 3 modules in 1: - using the red, green and blue destinations, it allows you to effectively do a matrix multiplication on the [R,G,B] vectors: [Rout] [Rr Rg Rb] [Rin] [Gout] = [Gr Gg Gb] x [Gin] [Bout] [Br Bg Bb] [Bin] You use the sliders on the red, green & b

Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer

2020-09-01 Thread KOVÁCS István
On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 21:05, Mikael Ståldal wrote: > > I have tried to use the channel mixer module, but I don't quite > understand it. I have only been able to effectively use the presets. > [...] > Any suggestions for documentation or tutorials? You could try this: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/ma

[darktable-user] Channel mixer

2020-09-01 Thread Mikael Ståldal
I have tried to use the channel mixer module, but I don't quite understand it. I have only been able to effectively use the presets. I have read the user manual, but it didn't help much. I also looked at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGvkSTjjtMw but it seems like Bruce Williams wa

Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer => Levels and Historgram are not aligned

2019-08-12 Thread Michael Staats
On 11/08/2019 20:27, jys wrote: > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, at 09:01, Michael Staats wrote: > >> Am I missing something, or is the histogram in "levels" confused by the >> (admittedly extreme) channel setting? > > The histogram in "levels" is showing what that module is seeing as input. The > global

Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer => Levels and Historgram are not aligned

2019-08-11 Thread jys
On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, at 09:01, Michael Staats wrote: > Am I missing something, or is the histogram in "levels" confused by the > (admittedly extreme) channel setting? The histogram in "levels" is showing what that module is seeing as input. The global histogram is reflecting not only any chang

Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-11 Thread parafin
a dot. It really makes me think that on Mac GTK3 is loosing focus, > since I have to click on something else to close the box. > > Regards, > Alan > > > ---- Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity > Date:

Fwd: Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-11 Thread A. Huntley
ed Message Subject:Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:35:19 +0200 From: Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) To: darktable-user Hello Alan I have had some problems in the past due to a random problem with the right button of my mouse.

Re: Re: Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-11 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
; Regards, > Alan > > > ---- Forwarded Message ---- > Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:57:39 +0200 > From: Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) > > CC: darktable-user > > > > Hi, > > Tobias said, >

Fwd: Re: Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-11 Thread A. Huntley
lighttable because I hit a dot. It really makes me think that on Mac GTK3 is loosing focus, since I have to click on something else to close the box. Regards, Alan Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity Date: Mon, 11 Jul 201

Re: Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-11 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Hi, Tobias said, "Regarding the problem with the '.', it seems that for some reason the focus indeed is first passed to the parent window instead of the popup directly. I suppose other keys (like, numbers) are working when typing?" Just to add some informations: I use quite often this module and

Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-11 Thread alan.huntley
he manual. Then, those of us who cannot do this ourselves (well...probably only me!) would, at least, have access to those film type emulations. Regards, Alan > From: Tobias Ellinghaus > To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity &

Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-11 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
On Freitag, 8. Juli 2016 15:25:18 CEST A. Huntley wrote: > :) :) Don't blame you a bit! It's really not a big deal because I can > > get close enough simply dragging the sliders. Perhaps, one day, this > will be one of those mysterious things that automagically fixes itself. Now that I think abou

Re: Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-11 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
On Freitag, 8. Juli 2016 13:04:26 CEST A. Huntley wrote: > Nope...didn't work. I tried moving the mouse in/out a few times and even > clicking on the entry field, but no go. What's additionally odd is if I > right-click on the slider, the entry area has a blinking vertical bar > for about 3 secs, a

Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-08 Thread A. Huntley
ed Message Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 00:25:57 +0300 From: para...@paraf.in To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Can? Of course, it's open source after all. Want? No, I'm sick of tracking down GTK bugs, they break stuff with

Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-08 Thread parafin
it's a GTK3 issue, is > this something the DT development team can even fix? > > Regards, > Alan > > > ---- Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 20:54:28 +0300 > From: para...@paraf.in &

Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-08 Thread A. Huntley
se or anything. It definitely seems like a focus issue in that area. If it's a GTK3 issue, is this something the DT development team can even fix? Regards, Alan Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 20:54:2

Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-08 Thread parafin
s lists...I think I sent > an earlier reply directly to Tobias. Trying to send to list now! ;) > > Tobias, > > I'm running OS X 10.11.5 and DT 2.0.5 > > Thank you. > > Regards, > Alan > > > ---- Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: [d

Fwd: Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-08 Thread A. Huntley
Please excuse my ignorance on how to use these users lists...I think I sent an earlier reply directly to Tobias. Trying to send to list now! ;) Tobias, I'm running OS X 10.11.5 and DT 2.0.5 Thank you. Regards, Alan Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [darktable

Re: [darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-08 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
On Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2016 11:27:54 CEST A. Huntley wrote: > Hello All, Hi. > I'm trying to convert some files to B&W using the Channel Mixer and I'd > like to enter specific values for R-G-B, as suggested in the User Manual > for specific films. However, when I right-click to enter whatever val

[darktable-user] Channel Mixer Oddity

2016-07-07 Thread A. Huntley
Hello All, I'm trying to convert some files to B&W using the Channel Mixer and I'd like to enter specific values for R-G-B, as suggested in the User Manual for specific films. However, when I right-click to enter whatever value I need and see the blinking entry field (middle right side of the