Re: [Dbix-class] What's the situation with SQL::Abstract?

ompatible, especially given I have to rely on the DBIx::Class userbase alone to determine this. When I have a minute, I'll check into how to make the real SQL::Abstract work with the new DBIC release, and will report back to the list once I do. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a c

[Dbix-class] Time to start testing SQL::Abstract dev releases, please

ell to understand exactly how and why you might want to use it). Bend it, break it, provide feedback, please. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on

Re: [Dbix-class] relationship with additional constraints?

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 09:52:09AM +0200, Stuart Dodds wrote: > On 17/05/18 22:25, Matt S Trout wrote: > > Surely http://p3rl.org/DBIx::Class::ParameterizedJoinHack is exactly > > what's needed here - just use it on a belongs_to rel with a join_type of > > left so non-match

Re: [Dbix-class] relationship with additional constraints?

he opening paragraph of Frew's > blog that I linked to ;-) Ah, the "that approach no longer works" threw me off. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me n

Re: [Dbix-class] relationship with additional constraints?

to develop that module in the first place :) -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our CPAN commercial support

Re: [Dbix-class] set_column with references - possible SQL injection

s this who is capable of discussing this like an adult. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our CPAN commerc

Re: [Dbix-class] Unmet DBIx::Class::Optional::Dependencies not fatal

inciple of "shit or get off the pot" - I got off. It'd be nice if you could do one of the two at some point too. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now o

Re: [Dbix-class] [Conclusion] Twitter accounts

each other and talk before shouting would also be preferable for the user base. Just a thought. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.u

[Dbix-class] Twitter accounts

in that case a discussion of alternative options would be the next step most likely to be constructive. -- mst, out. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now

Re: [Dbix-class] VOTE: Relinquish firstcome rights to Peter Rabbitson

This doesn't appear to have fully displayed in the web archives so I'm replying-to-self with the full text quoted in the hopes that works to give people something they can link to. On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 05:31:56PM +, Matt S Trout wrote: > A little late to the party, but I needed to get

Re: [Dbix-class] VOTE: Relinquish firstcome rights to Peter Rabbitson

A little late to the party, but I needed to get my thoughts straight. I originally intervened because the plan as I then understood it was "end DBIC feature development and transfer ownership to an unknown CPAN author who wasn't one of the main contributors so far as I could tell" (though of

[Dbix-class] Bomb away (to cpantesters)

be clearer, those of you who've been around for a while are used to me harassing you to test devrels ... in this case, I'm not doing so *yet*) -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_m

[Dbix-class] Path from here towards actually getting a release out

, or if your thought is "looks basically reasonable" then a +1 would be nice (once there's 3 or 4 such replies there's no need to add to them, but I'd at least like to know "some people think it looks basically reasonable" if that's the case). -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Sys

Re: [Dbix-class] View Definitions for non-virtual views

e a few projects that rely on Schema::Loader'ed schemas being deployable to set up test databases and similar, and if anybody with needs like yours can easily find the option anyway, it seems impolite to break their setups. Does that all make sense? Fancy having a go at a patch? -- Matt S Trout - S

Re: [Dbix-class] View Definitions for non-virtual views

we wouldn't take a patch to supply such an option, I confess to being surprised that this was noticeable - how did you measure the memory usage with and without, and how big was the difference? -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/b

Re: [Dbix-class] View Definitions for non-virtual views

files, too - the .pm files are effectively documentation of the schema the code expects as well as structural. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst

Re: [Dbix-class] Status of DBIx::Class

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:46:47PM +0200, Peter Rabbitson wrote: > On 07/17/2017 12:33 PM, Matt S Trout wrote: > >Peter calling me Sean Spicer on twitter > > Please either provide a link, or retract this latest bit in a string > of blatant lies Perhaps I misunderstood your in

Re: [Dbix-class] Status of DBIx::Class

elease and a write up so that we can start figuring out the impact on production codebases and seeing if we need additional mitigations before shipping a production release. My apologies for the delay; I feel like I blinked and suddenly it was summer. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems

Re: [Dbix-class] Merging ResultSets

lse, then I'd construct a single resultset using '-or' to generate OR clauses in the SQL and avoid needing the UNIONs in the first place. If neither of the above applies, then I'm not really sure what your use case is and a bit more detail would probably help elucidate. -- Matt S Trout - Shadow

Re: [Dbix-class] Applying Result's methods to the whole ResultSet

;all; (I would always explicitly call the ->all for clarity) -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our C

Re: [Dbix-class] Merging ResultSets

This may or may not be better, depending on your goal. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our CPA

[Dbix-class] Calling enterprise/corporate users

forwards on the things you find important. (I would love to be less vague, but http://trout.me.uk/data.jpg applies) -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now

[Dbix-class] Orders of Business

d give DBIC a useful amount of attention) -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our CPAN commercial support, trai

Re: [Dbix-class] Count + having

t isn't necessarily in scope for HAVING. Worth playing around at an SQL console to get a feel for how it actually interacts; HAVING is awesome but something you tend to use rarely enough that it's easy to forget how it works (I know I do, hence the 'unless' above ;) -- Matt S Trout

Re: [Dbix-class] Moving load_components("InflateColumn::DateTime") to base class breaks cascade delete

tes for my relationships no longer work. If your result class isn't calling load_components anymore you probably want to add "use mro 'c3';" somewhere near the top. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/

Re: [Dbix-class] SQL extension: INSERT ... ON CONFLICT

mostly going to me a simple matter of programming, but figuring out what shape of thing *to* implement is a little trickier. So, as a starting point - imagine the feature you wanted already existed, and tell us how you'd expect it to work? -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting

Re: [Dbix-class] Please review my proposed CPAN Module: DBIx-Class-Schema-VersionCheck

rtainly less informed than it could be. If you want to test an API for intuitiveness, a relative newcomer is the best sort of test case, tbh. It might be important that the implementation makes sense to me, but where the API and the docs are concerned whether they make sense to you is almost certainl

Re: [Dbix-class] unable to install via cpan

nd see if this is a Thing. Though assuming 5.even.x releases all work, this isn't a red alert type situation - 5.odd.x are for playing with the ble[ea]ding edge, not real use. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/

Re: [Dbix-class] Governance: Proposal A is adopted

thank everyone for their participation and patience. Seconded. This is far from an entirely happy ending, but it is, hopefully, an ending that will set us up to move forwards in a careful but constructive fashion. Thank you everybody for bearing with the process. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems -

[Dbix-class] An answer and a question

n your employer" is an acceptable way to make somebody back down from an argument? -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's cha

Re: [Dbix-class] "row not found" updating partitioned table in PgSQL

for the specific table. Or you could always patch DBIx::Class to provide a flag to disable it, but when/whether you'd be able to get such a patch upstream is obviously not something that's entirely predictable at this point. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commi

Re: [Dbix-class] Please don't try to start voting yet

ting part is fixed (and people can -1 for "you didn't let the conversation finish"). Also that way you don't run into issues where people have different interpretations of "run its course" and we end up in a meta-argument about that. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl co

Re: [Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

ore so than our actual politicians manage, of course). > > Voting Members are: > > > > Matt S Trout (mst) cpan:MSTROUT > > Dagfinn Ilmari Mansaker (ilmari) cpan:ILMARI > > Frew Schmidt (frew) cpan:FREW > > Jess Robinson (castaway) cpan:JROBINSON > > I'd

Re: [Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

uss it and there seems to be a decent number of people in favour, I don't mind amending the proposal pre-voting - after all, if it turns out to be wrong somebody can put forward a proposal to unamend it post-adoption instead :) -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue

Re: [Dbix-class] Please don't try to start voting yet

compensate in that regard. Anybody (especially riba) got any objections to that as a plan? -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let'

Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: Aggregation and conclusion

I think your answer should also help to further highlight where we differ. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat a

Re: [Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

I'm an idiot. > Voting closes after 72h from when the proposal was first posted. This line should be replaced with: Voting closes after 72h from when the VOTE: email is sent. My apologies. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue h

[Dbix-class] Please don't try to start voting yet

both, *then* we can call the final vote. Otherwise people are just going to feel railroaded again and that isn't to anybody's advantage. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst

[Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

ing Member - part of the benevolent dictatorship LS - List Subscriber - a subscriber to the mailing list LAV - List Aggregate Vote - the aggregate vote of the non-VM LSes Voting Members are: Matt S Trout (mst) cpan:MSTROUT Dagfinn Ilmari Mansaker (ilmari) cpan:ILMARI Frew Sch

Re: [Dbix-class] The email I didn't want to write.

> away). Making the ‘the problem’ someone else just makes the > situation harder for me; it’s much easier to fix myself than fix > someone else. That's an attitude that you and I generally share; what I find unfortunate is deciding to break somebody else instead of convincing them to do the ri

Re: [Dbix-class] The email I didn't want to write.

On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 11:33:12PM +, Matt S Trout wrote: > > >... > > > > > >Meanwhile, we've now reached a point where seeing a ticket or patch sent in > > >by ribasushi tends to result in people ignoring it for a few days because > > >they ne

Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: Aggregation and conclusion

who's planning such a fork and ask them, surely. Otherwise, this conversation seems to basically just be a cheese shop sketch. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Emai

Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: Aggregation and conclusion

On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 04:32:31PM -0600, Darin McBride wrote: > On Monday October 31 2016 11:22:07 AM Andrew Beverley wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 00:43:31 Matt S Trout <m...@shadowcat.co.uk> wrote: > > > Otherwise, I would suggest that you turn your plan in

Re: [Dbix-class] The email I didn't want to write.

On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 11:50:24AM +0100, Peter Rabbitson wrote: > On 11/01/2016 11:18 PM, Matt S Trout wrote: > > > >... > > > >This seems like a surprising description of ilmari, given he holds the > >first-come permissions for both DBIx::Class::Schema::Lo

[Dbix-class] The email I didn't want to write.

goal here was to give the userbase a say in the future of the project, and if you use that say to vote it down en masse then that genuinely still meets that goal. Thank you for reading. I'm going to go grab a beer and miss the old riba. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a c

Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: Aggregation and conclusion

iven it's clear that everybody except ribasushi would prefer things to be decided by democracy than fiat. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) sh

[Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: Aggregation and conclusion

l be happy to defer committing the governance document for a few days since it's pretty uncontested that you know what you're doing and I can't see how that can't be a net positive. Ladies, gentlemen, and mongers, thank you for bearing with us through this process and I look forward to working together goi

Re: [Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

though, personally, I'm more focused on rebuilding a team that can manage to successfully manage a single DBIC codebase. I suspect that's going to be quite enough challenge for the moment. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/

Re: [Dbix-class] Fwd: Re: GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

... accurate though that last email might have been, it was meant to be an off-list reply. I'm an idiot. Oh well. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst

Re: [Dbix-class] Fwd: Re: GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

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Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: UPDATED: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

he mailing list LAV - List Aggregate Vote - the aggregate vote of the non-VM LSes Voting Members are: Matt S Trout (mst) cpan:MSTROUT Dagfinn Ilmari Mansaker (ilmari) cpan:ILMARI Frew Schmidt (frew) cpan:FREW Jess Robinson (castaway) cpan:JROBINSON PAUSE release perms are

Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

not amused by any of this, least of all by your reply. If it's any consolation, I don't think any of the contributors involved are having a lot of fun. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter

Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:35:23PM -0700, Darren Duncan wrote: > On 2016-10-18 9:51 AM, Matt S Trout wrote: > >What say ye? > > I don't have much to add that hasn't been said by others. > > Assuming that "modifying the rules" includes "modifying the l

Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

Also remember that if you've been finding the various discussions a trifle fraught and would prefer not to risk being yelled at for having the wrong opinion, I believe xdg's offer to aggregate and post private feedback still stands. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting

Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

producing actually useful code either. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our CPAN commercial

Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

lowdown, and I think that would need to be debated on the merits at the time. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's ch

Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

s amendments afterwards" ? (I'm really not trying to be snarky here, much though 'not snarky' doesn't exactly come naturally to me ;) -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/

[Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

Subscriber - a subscriber to the mailing list LAV - List Aggregate Vote - the aggregate vote of the non-VM LSes Voting Members are: Matt S Trout (mst) cpan:MSTROUT Dagfinn Ilmari Mansaker (ilmari) cpan:ILMARI Frew Schmidt (frew) cpan:FREW Jess Robinson (castaway) cpan:JROBI

Re: [Dbix-class] Alternative proposals proposal

+1's from me: > > https://metacpan.org/author/FREW > https://metacpan.org/author/HAARG > https://metacpan.org/author/ILMARI HAARG said no. given our work together on Moo, I'd be happy to have him replace me on any proposal I'm making, if you can talk him into saying yes. -- Ma

Re: [Dbix-class] The "outstanding reservations" thread

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 10:42:51PM +0200, Peter Rabbitson wrote: > On 10/13/2016 08:33 PM, Matt S Trout wrote: > >Right, so, riba provided a long list of reasons why he thinks people should > >have reservations about a core team plan of any form. > > No, Matt, this is not

Re: [Dbix-class] Alternative proposals proposal

ody who has genuine concerns that I would optimise for "progress for the sake of progress" as opposed to the "impressive record of reliability" from http://lists.scsys.co.uk/pipermail/dbix-class/2016-October/01.html is very welcome to join the outstanding questions thread. -- Ma

[Dbix-class] The "outstanding reservations" thread

haven't already addressed, please do re-iterate them here". I'm also happy to do what I can to answer questions about my expectations for other members of proposed-core, given they seem to be enjoying the tone of the conversation even less than I have been. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Syste

[Dbix-class] RFC: Core going forwards

ed. Ladies, gentlemen, and mongers, the floor is yours :) -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our CPAN

Re: [Dbix-class] 4/5 Why Matt's proposal is a farce

as an endorsement that the code in question is fit for every day use in general? Traditionally, one finds ways to dogfood stuff explicitly *because* the code isn't ready and trying it out oneself is the way to irish mine clear the most egregious problems, so this interpretation seems deepl

Re: [Dbix-class] 5/5 Why "a stability tzar" is a ridiculous proposition

nice. and I wonder if we can rig up some sort of list<->github gatewaying ala p5p's list<->RT gatewaying to make sure everybody can still be involved. Not sure. Hopefully once the poo flinging stops and the list is clear to discuss actual governance we can get into ideas like

Re: [Dbix-class] 4/5 Why Matt's proposal is a farce

crash over the increased risk of the code completing successfully from the POV of the surrounding application while having actually done the wrong thing. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/sha

Re: [Dbix-class] Let's call things what they are 2/2

until "the 11th hour". -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our CPAN commercial support, training

Re: [Dbix-class] 5/5 Why "a stability tzar" is a ridiculous proposition

ever going to get them back into the pram, I'm more inclined to say "fifth seat: was 'whoever riba wants', now 'whoever the userbase wants', though I might make a suggestion if the user base doesn't" -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http:/

Re: [Dbix-class] Let's call things what they are 2/2

ting said utility function wrongly, I'll find out before applying the results. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let

Re: [Dbix-class] A slightly more concrete proposal

On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 08:17:08PM +, Matt S Trout wrote: > Since people seem to be unsure as to what the alternative to riba's project > freeze would actually be, let me provide something a little more concrete. Minor adjustments. (1) castaway currently holds the SQLT first-com

Re: [Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

My message was written solely to be a retraction of and apology for what I felt was an unfounded accusation I'd inadvertantly made against you, because I prefer to set the record straight when I make such a mistake. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit

Re: [Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

hard for me to write useful code in the meantime. As such, please everybody take riba's waiting code-wise as being the same focus issue, rather than an attempt to punish the user base for disagreeing with him, and please also accept my apologies for even implying it might have been anything else. --

Re: [Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

us get the advantages piecemeal and with much lower risk; but this is not the thread for me to explain that proposal so I'll circle back around to it later when I've finished thinking it through. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/

Re: [Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

alf of the architecture team for it. So, I mean, "cool" but also "this is going to need serious discussion" and especially "please don't get your hopes up about 'near term'". -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue htt

Re: [Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

considers such pedantic points of order more important than providing a future for DBIx::Class that the user base can agree upon. Subject: Re: Message from PAUSE Admins to DBIx::Class maintainers [resend] To: Matt S Trout <m...@shadowcat.co.uk>, Graham Knop <ha...@haarg.org>, David Golde

Re: [Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

art for providing bundled versions of SQLA in dev releases which could absolutely be repurposed to allow for a 'use DBIx::Class::StabilityFreeze;' to work: https://github.com/dbsrgits/dbix-class/blob/current/dq/lib/DBIx/Class/_TempExtlib.pm (idea the result of discussion between riba and I, implemented

[Dbix-class] A slightly more concrete proposal

h at least trying to improve on that. Hopefully that gives people a clearer idea of what I think would end up happening if we decide to move forwards once again as a team project. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/ma

Re: [Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 08:20:51PM +0200, Peter Mottram wrote: > On 04/10/16 19:08, Matt S Trout wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 12:49:49PM -0400, Ashley Pond V wrote: > >> I did say MST RFC:MUST be respected. :P This is only here because of > >> yo

Re: [Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

to save this codebase from." Of course, it would help if he'd elaborate on his plan; so far, sadly, he's expended a lot more words explaining why his future plans for DBIx::Class aren't the contributors' or users' business than he has explaining what said plans actually are. Hopefully that will c

Re: [Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

petent to add features to DBIx::Class ever again, then fair enough, let's start planning the funeral. But I can't see how that's the best possible outcome here for the userbase as a whole. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/

Re: [Dbix-class] inflate_results and source_name

On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 08:21:11PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Matt S Trout m...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote: source_name is a proxy through to the result_source_instance in class data. If you don't call __PACKAGE__-table(__PACKAGE__-table); in a subclass

Re: [Dbix-class] Schema::Loader and views on Pg

On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 09:56:15PM -0700, Dorian Taylor (Lists) wrote: On 2-May-10, at 12:59 PM, Matt S Trout wrote: Thanks! What about letting S::L pull the column names and then just setting the primary keys and adding rels as a fixup? I think what I'm going to do is make

Re: [Dbix-class] Improved resultset iterators

cleaner. Also, I wondered at which point it is best to call $resultset-reset.. At the start, or end, or both, of all the methods? Any design that requires -reset to be called is perpetuating the same mistake as perl's each() builtin makes and should be taken out and shot. -- Matt S Trout

Re: [Dbix-class] Using update on a resultset with join

- see http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/sql-update.html for the actual SQL involved) -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst

Re: [Dbix-class] Schema::Loader and views on Pg

a bug and get an incomprehensible error message. Also, aliased.pm can pretty much eliminate the extra typing just as well :) -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now

Re: [Dbix-class] DynamicSubclass and Preview: conflict?

liked. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat about how our Catalyst commercial support, training and consultancy

Re: [Dbix-class] Subclass a Result class.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:49:30PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Matt S Trout m...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote: For that to happen the $session_attendee needs to be specific to a given session (Session id is stored with the $session_attendee instance). You just

Re: [Dbix-class] DynamicSubclass and Preview: conflict?

in that case, I think adding the columns to the preview source should do the trick. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue http://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ http://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/ Email me now on mst (at) shadowcat.co.uk and let's chat

Re: [Dbix-class] inflate_results and source_name

to the result_source_instance in class data. If you don't call __PACKAGE__-table(__PACKAGE__-table); in a subclass to get a new source, you don't have a new source. So you've just set it four times on the same thing and the last one will win. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting

Re: [Dbix-class] Subclass a Result class.

instance). You just answered your own question. You want a result from the many-many link table and to traverse from there, since that table has (session_id, attendee_id). -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit

[Dbix-class] And lo, doth the spice flow once more

The mailman queue runner apparently decided to implode over the bank holiday weekend. I've delivered a short sharp blow to the rump with the flat of a chainsaw and it appears to be going again. Apologies for the mail delivery delays. -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class

Re: [Dbix-class] regression introduced in DBIC r5298.. Or we're Doing It Wrong..

On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 11:29:53AM +1000, Toby Corkindale wrote: Matt S Trout wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 06:14:13PM +1000, Toby Corkindale wrote: Hi guys, I've encountered a regression in DBIC, introduced in revision 5298. It's more than likely that the way things were being done

Re: [Dbix-class] Inflation and Deflation

for it? :) -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout

Re: [Dbix-class] Resultset relation accessors

Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/ ___ List

Re: [Dbix-class] lazy loading of column data

in the first place on any given query. -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout

Re: [Dbix-class] as_query() and DBIx::Class::Cursor::Cached aren't friends

the same logic? -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout

Re: [Dbix-class] Deflation of objects in search conditions

sod it. -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx::Class consultancy with a clue Technical Director and a commit bit: http://shadowcat.co.uk/catalyst/ Shadowcat Systems Limited mst (@) shadowcat.co.ukhttp://shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout

Re: [Dbix-class] dirty-flag on inflated columns

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:43:40AM -0700, Marc Mims wrote: * Peter Rabbitson rabbit+d...@rabbit.us [090522 02:15]: Matt S Trout wrote: Thoughts on whether make_column_dirty should clear the deflated value if an inflated one is present, guys? So now that ::FS is fixed can

Re: [Dbix-class] Null foreign keys and the reload_from_storage error when its not wanted

forgot to call -reload_from_storage to get defaults from the db) at 02_db.t line 40 not ok 563 - test rel cron_task-dependency That should be an exists check, not a defined check. If dependency_id is in the normal column list it should be fine. -- Matt S Trout Catalyst and DBIx

Re: [Dbix-class] New user with JOIN problem

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 09:21:55AM +0100, Chris Cole wrote: Chris Cole wrote: Matt S Trout wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 03:18:20PM +0100, Chris Cole wrote: Then we can make a start at helping you - currently your database is too broken. That's what's confusing me. How come the SQL

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