Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-03-01 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Darst wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 01:19:57AM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: No. You (leader@, auditor@) will need to do this on their own. If you want to keep track of the money separately, you'd better keep it marked Debconfn and give leader@, auditor@ authority over it as

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-03-01 Thread Martin Schulze
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: to know the actual total amount of reserves would need to check two accounts instead of one. Maybe it's easier to write this as relation like in databases: account/login 1 n earmarks for money The auditors account is totally separate from your

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-19 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 07:51, Martin Schulze j...@infodrom.org wrote: Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Additionally, keeping the separation will further the feeling in the community that DebConf and Debian are two separate entities, while they That's up to you.  You don't need to tell the community

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:51:59PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: Same reason as above: it shouldn't be me asking for that. That's rediculous. If you would like to have access and view, you should ask. We cannot process your request unless the Debconf people agree, though, howver putting

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-18 Thread Richard Darst
Hello, On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 01:19:57AM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: No. You (leader@, auditor@) will need to do this on their own. If you want to keep track of the money separately, you'd better keep it marked Debconfn and give leader@, auditor@ authority over it as well. That is what

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 05:02:00AM -0500, Richard Darst wrote: How do you all imagine the DebConf/Debian money separation would work if accounts are merged? The basic principle which is at stake here is that DebConf/Debian money should *not* be separated. There are two reasons for that: 1)

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 06:28:38PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: To me this sounds more like it would would be helpful for you all if the money would continue to be earmarked differently in the future but that the Debian project leader and accountant should get a view to that money as well.

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi! Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 06:28:38PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: To me this sounds more like it would would be helpful for you all if the money would continue to be earmarked differently in the future but that the Debian project leader and accountant should get

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 09:24:24PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: I already wrote that it's no problem to enrich the leader account with Debconf information. Yes, and I got that, but as long as the accounts are separate, I don't think it should be me asking for that, but rather the current

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Current SPI setting allows for that, while current FFIS setting (i.e. the split) does not. Obviously, I hope something like the above will *never* happen, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be worried about similar scenarios. Sorry, but... Why didn't you

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-18 Thread Clint Adams
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 09:47:50PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: That would solve the problems outlined in this thread, but it would still be worse than the merge, for a very simple reason: either me or the auditors, to know the actual total amount of reserves would need to check two

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-18 Thread Martin Schulze
Clint Adams wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 09:47:50PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: That would solve the problems outlined in this thread, but it would still be worse than the merge, for a very simple reason: either me or the auditors, to know the actual total amount of reserves would

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-17 Thread Michael Schultheiss
Martin Schulze wrote: Since this is a general decision, I assume that Ganneff and Michael are fine with joining the money? I'm fine with joining the money. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-16 Thread Martin Schulze
Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Samstag, 12. Februar 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: So, if this is consensus (as I believe), it looks like the proper solution of merging DebConf FFIS account into the Debian one is just at hand. I'd like to receive comments on this. I agree and the

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-16 Thread Richard Darst
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:32:39PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: There are two options you may want to discuss further: (a) move Debconf10 money to Debian account If you did this, could you keep track of the money which was raised/spend for DebConf separately from the other Debian money? I

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-16 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi Richard! Richard Darst wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:32:39PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: There are two options you may want to discuss further: (a) move Debconf10 money to Debian account If you did this, could you keep track of the money which was raised/spend for DebConf

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Samstag, 12. Februar 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: So, if this is consensus (as I believe), it looks like the proper solution of merging DebConf FFIS account into the Debian one is just at hand. I'd like to receive comments on this. I agree and the comments below assume we have

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 4. Februar 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On the same subject, can we please pour the other DebConf money we have in Europe where they can be seen by DPL and Auditors (i.e. the Debian FFIS account)? Currently there is no visibility of those money to us, beside the mention

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:28:59AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Freitag, 4. Februar 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On the same subject, can we please pour the other DebConf money we have in Europe where they can be seen by DPL and Auditors (i.e. the Debian FFIS account)?

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, Joey, please comment on this, what options do you see for us? On Freitag, 11. Februar 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: No, I cannot see *debconf* money at FFIS and that is the main problem I'm trying to solve. The same is true for auditors, which make the problem even worse. At the very

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-11 Thread Martin Schulze
Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, Joey, please comment on this, what options do you see for us? On Freitag, 11. Februar 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: No, I cannot see *debconf* money at FFIS and that is the main problem I'm trying to solve. The same is true for auditors, which make the

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-02-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 12:20:36PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 03:01:29PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: I recently spoke with Jimmy about this the other day, and he still has them. He is busy with school at the moment, so he isn't actively following the mailing

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2011-01-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 03:01:29PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: I recently spoke with Jimmy about this the other day, and he still has them. He is busy with school at the moment, so he isn't actively following the mailing lists. (He still is on IRC if you need him.) If you like, I can coordinate

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2010-12-31 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 06:25:30PM -0500, micah anderson wrote: On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 22:47:27 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debconf.org wrote: Hi everyone! I know I'm perpetually optimistic, but in this case I have physical evidence to back it up. At the end of DebConf9, we had a bunch

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2010-12-31 Thread Brian Gupta
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 06:25:30PM -0500, micah anderson wrote: On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 22:47:27 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debconf.org wrote: Hi everyone! I know I'm perpetually optimistic, but in this case I have

Re: [Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2010-11-16 Thread micah anderson
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 22:47:27 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debconf.org wrote: Hi everyone! I know I'm perpetually optimistic, but in this case I have physical evidence to back it up. At the end of DebConf9, we had a bunch of leftover physical currency in euros, which I counted and brought

[Debconf-team] Extra money we forgot we had

2010-07-03 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
Hi everyone! I know I'm perpetually optimistic, but in this case I have physical evidence to back it up. At the end of DebConf9, we had a bunch of leftover physical currency in euros, which I counted and brought back to the US for DebConf10's use, intending to convert it to USD once we got our