Bug#434175: ITP: kanif -- cluster management and administration swiss army knife

2007-07-21 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kanif Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Guillaume Huard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://taktuk.gforge.inria.fr/ * License : GPL v2 or later Programming Lang: Perl Des

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking & stats

2007-07-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, shirish wrote: > Now I also have issues with it needing some kind of mail client, if > it used some way to transport the messages without going through the > mail client/server it would be so much easier. You don't actually need a mail client, and once #421046 and https://rt.d

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:17:21 +0200, gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:59:49 +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: >> >> I tried reportbug-ng, and the interface was good, but I didn't >> >> manage to send a report, as I didn't had any mail program >> >> installed, >> > Ouc

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:50:15 +0200, Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Carl Fürstenberg wrote: >> The major problem with the current system, is that it requires that >> the reporter has access to a mail server, if they want to use the >> more easier variant by using reportbug script. the

Re: Can we require build-arch/indep targets for lenny?

2007-07-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> All of my packages have build-arch and build-indep targets. None of >> them benefit from them at all. I expect many other people have >> similarly added the targets just because, or have the targets pr

Re: Can we require build-arch/indep targets for lenny?

2007-07-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> I really don't think that declaring the majority of packages in Debian >>> buggy in this fashion is viable, particularly when nearly all packages >>> in Deb

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking & stats

2007-07-21 Thread shirish
Hi all, I am a ubuntu user. It has been an quite an interesting discussion about reportbug as well as reportbug-ng. I too use reportbug (more than reportbug-ng) when I need to report some bug which might be upstream as I believe there are quite few packages which ubuntu syncs from debian. No

Re: Bug#433791: ITP: telaen -- simple and fast webmail

2007-07-21 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Thijs Kinkhorst [Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:17:37 +0200]: > > Telaen was originally based on Uebimiau and runs under any server > > supporting PHP with Sendmail or QMAIL. > The two most used mailservers in Debian are Postfix and Exim. Most probably > Telaen works with them too, but it seems a bit str

Re: upstream version of refblas3 package

2007-07-21 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Kamaraju Kusumanchi [Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:40:10 -0400]: > Can someone tell me where the upstream version of the refblas3 package is > located? I think you'll find more useful to make this question directly to the refblas3 maintainer. If you do, you may or may not find useful to point them at sec

Bug#434149: Should maintainers receive copies of their own BTS mails?

2007-07-21 Thread Adeodato Simó
Package: debbugs Severity: wishlist At the moment, maintainers do not receive a copy of the mail they send to bugs on their on packages. I only noticed this lately, but I'm told by Don that it's been like that for a while. Don also said that he doesn't have a strong opinion about that, so he's op

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Erik Schanze
Hi Carl, "Carl Fürstenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The major problem with the current system, is that it requires that > the reporter has access to a mail server, if they want to use the > more easier variant by using reportbug script. their other > alternative is to send an email from their webma

Bug#434132: ITP: php-sasl -- Cyrus SASL extension for PHP

2007-07-21 Thread Jack Bates
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jack Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: php-sasl Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Jon Parise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://pecl.php.net/package/sasl * License : PHP Programming Lang: PHP Description :

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Yavor Doganov
Don Armstrong wrote: > > [It appears that debian-bug.el doesn't actually do the > /usr/share/bugs//*; thing either [...] It does but relies on reportbug for this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 06:11:19PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: > On 21.07.2007 18:04 schrieb Frans Pop: > > $ less /usr/share/doc/reportbug/README.developers > At least now it should be clear why I assumed it is a reportbug > *specific* feature. The first line of that document indicates that t

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Oleg Verych
21-07-2007, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> пишет: > --=-=-= > > Oleg Verych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Please either address the points raised by the message you're replying >>> to, or don't. >> IMHO that message was a hand waving not deserving reading. Thus i >> dissagre, that i d

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Oleg Verych
* 21-07-2007, Steve Langasek > The scripts in /usr/share/bug/ are *created by the package maintainers to > collect information they believe should be present in bug reports about > their packages*. Asserting that maintainers "have the option" to ask for > more info is just stupid; the whole point

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Oleg Verych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Please either address the points raised by the message you're replying >> to, or don't. > IMHO that message was a hand waving not deserving reading. Thus i > dissagre, that i didn't addressed its points in my reply. If you feel there were no points raised

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Alan Woodland
Carl Fürstenberg wrote: When I'm locking at the BTS, I sometimes get the feeling it was either designed a long time ago, or that it was designed by real hardcore developers. Not that it isn't effective, as when you have learned the whole system, you can query it pretty fast, but the threshold is

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Bastian Venthur
On 21.07.2007 18:04 schrieb Frans Pop: > On Saturday 21 July 2007 17:50, Bastian Venthur wrote: >> So where's the usage of files in /usr/share/bug documented? I wasn't >> able to find the documentation, but I'm sure I have read it somewhere. > > $ less /usr/share/doc/reportbug/README.developers A

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 21 July 2007 17:50, Bastian Venthur wrote: > So where's the usage of files in /usr/share/bug documented? I wasn't > able to find the documentation, but I'm sure I have read it somewhere. $ less /usr/share/doc/reportbug/README.developers Cheers, FJP pgpycuO9C0wcc.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Bastian Venthur
On 21.07.2007 15:00 schrieb Steve Langasek: > On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 02:44:45PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: >> On 21.07.2007 13:36 schrieb Brice Goglin: >>> reportbug-ng does *not* gather all the information about the reporters >>> system... see #422085 > >> This bug is about replicating a repo

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Oleg Verych
* Don Armstrong > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: >> "post your thoughts in your weblog, come here with patches" > > This is a list which is used to discuss development related issues. > The ability of users to report and discover bugs which affect them is > inextricably linked to developm

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:59:49 +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: > >> I tried reportbug-ng, and the interface was good, but I didn't manage > >> to send a report, as I didn't had any mail program installed, > > Ouch, probably reportbug-ng should depend on the supported mail user > > agents (Bastian, yo

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 04:42:48PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: > >> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.en.html > /usr/share/bugs was in my opinion a reportbug specific feature, since it > wasn't documented on the above site on how to report bugs and since it > was the only program I knew wh

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Carl Fürstenberg
On 7/21/07, gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:52:07 +0200, Carl Fürstenberg wrote: > > I > > though, as it had a couple in it's list, that all of them was > > installed, so I choosed icedove, but it then complained and dumped a > > url-encoded string in the termina

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 21 July 2007 16:55, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > Several different developers have already indicated that the feature > debated here is important for them to reach goal two of such a helper. > I do not see how such a feature would hurt goal 1. So why reject the > feature? What does it hurt?

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Bastian Venthur
On 21.07.2007 16:43 schrieb gregor herrmann: > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:52:07 +0200, Carl Fürstenberg wrote: > >>> Please have a look at reportbug-ng, it might fulfill your preferences >>> better. >> I tried reportbug-ng, and the interface was good, but I didn't manage >> to send a report, as I didn

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 02:44:45PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: > On 21.07.2007 13:36 schrieb Brice Goglin: > > reportbug-ng does *not* gather all the information about the reporters > > system... see #422085 > This bug is about replicating a reportbug specific feature. In my As Steve pointed o

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 03:23:07PM +0200, Carl Fürstenberg wrote: > Also, I'm sorry if I upset someone, was not my meaning. Do not feel sorry for that: most of this thread participants agreed that there were no reasons to get upset for your initial message. On the contrary: thanks for raising thi

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Saturday 21 July 2007 16:42, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Not really -- at least not in my eyes. In my understanding this site > documents how to file bug reports. Reportbug and others are introduced > as tools to help to ease the pain of doing it by hand. But that does not > imply something like: e

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Andreas Barth
* Bastian Venthur ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070721 16:43]: > /usr/share/bugs was in my opinion a reportbug specific feature, since it > wasn't documented on the above site on how to report bugs and since it > was the only program I knew which used the scripts in there. /usr/share/bugs isn't reportbug s

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:52:07 +0200, Carl Fürstenberg wrote: > > Please have a look at reportbug-ng, it might fulfill your preferences > > better. > I tried reportbug-ng, and the interface was good, but I didn't manage > to send a report, as I didn't had any mail program installed, Ouch, probably

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Bastian Venthur
On 21.07.2007 16:19 schrieb Don Armstrong: > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Bastian Venthur wrote: >> For me the reference how to write bug reports is described here: >> >> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.en.html >> >> where /usr/share/bugs is not even mentioned. > > I'm not really sure if that's the

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Bastian Venthur wrote: > For me the reference how to write bug reports is described here: > > http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.en.html > > where /usr/share/bugs is not even mentioned. I'm not really sure if that's the appropriate place to document /usr/share/bugs, but

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Bastian Venthur wrote: > On 21.07.2007 13:36 schrieb Brice Goglin: > > Sune Vuorela wrote: > >> I prefer reportbug-ng over any webinterface to recieve bug reports. All > >> the information about the reporters system that is automatically > >> gathered about architecture, packag

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Bastian Venthur
On 21.07.2007 15:02 schrieb Thijs Kinkhorst: > On Saturday 21 July 2007 14:44, Bastian Venthur wrote: >> Rng was by the way not intended to be a 1:1 replacement for reportbug or >> just a reportbug-with-GUI. > > This is not really supported by the naming of your program (an edit distance > of 3 w

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Carl Fürstenberg
On 7/21/07, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, reportbug has the option of responding to a bug report instead of > submitting a new one, but you can send a plain e-mail if you want too. > Whatever is easier for you. > > > Don Armstrong > Is there any kind of commandline option? as I a

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Carl Fürstenberg
On 7/21/07, gregor herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please have a look at reportbug-ng, it might fulfill your preferences > better. I tried reportbug-ng, and the interface was good, but I didn't manage to send a report, as I didn't had any mail program installed, I though, as it had a coupl

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Carl Fürstenberg wrote: > Before, after a lot of trials and errors, I did manage to get > reportbug working, but I still get angry now and then, especially > when I choose a wrong option, as I don't know how to undo it, I must > exit the program and begin from scratch again. Y

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:23:07 +0200, Carl Fürstenberg wrote: > Before, after a lot of trials and errors, I did manage to get > reportbug working, but I still get angry now and then, especially when > I choose a wrong option, as I don't know how to undo it, I must exit > the program and begin from s

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > "post your thoughts in your weblog, come here with patches" This is a list which is used to discuss development related issues. The ability of users to report and discover bugs which affect them is inextricably linked to development. As one of the develop

Bug#434091: ITP: libgettext-commons-java -- Java classes for internationalization (i18n)

2007-07-21 Thread Andreas Putzo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Putzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libgettext-commons-java Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Felix Berger * URL : http://xnap-commons.sourceforge.net/gettext-commons/index.html * License : LGPL Programming

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Carl Fürstenberg
Before, after a lot of trials and errors, I did manage to get reportbug working, but I still get angry now and then, especially when I choose a wrong option, as I don't know how to undo it, I must exit the program and begin from scratch again. Other thing I feel cumbersome, is that it's difficult t

Bug#434090: ITP: libmetadata-extractor-java -- JPEG metadata extraction framework

2007-07-21 Thread Andreas Putzo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Putzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libmetadata-extractor-java Version : 2.3.1 Upstream Author : Drew Noakes * URL : http://www.drewnoakes.com/code/exif/ * License : Public Domain (?) Programming Lang: Jav

Bug#434088: ITP: libminml2-java -- Minimal XML parser

2007-07-21 Thread Andreas Putzo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Putzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libminml2-java Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : John Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.wilson.co.uk/ * License : BSD (?) Programming Lang: Java Description

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Paul Cager
Oleg Verych wrote: >>> [incensed ranting on the topic of web applications] >> Oleg, your response doesn't seem to be in response to the message you >> quoted. > > A reply to off topic message to the development list. Insulting -- yes. Why? Yes, indeed, why? Why do you feel the need to insult som

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Saturday 21 July 2007 14:44, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Rng was by the way not intended to be a 1:1 replacement for reportbug or > just a reportbug-with-GUI. This is not really supported by the naming of your program (an edit distance of 3 with reportbug) nor by the description. Those two will s

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 02:44:45PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: > On 21.07.2007 13:36 schrieb Brice Goglin: > > Sune Vuorela wrote: > >> I prefer reportbug-ng over any webinterface to recieve bug reports. All > >> the information about the reporters system that is automatically > >> gathered about

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Bastian Venthur
On 21.07.2007 13:36 schrieb Brice Goglin: > Sune Vuorela wrote: >> I prefer reportbug-ng over any webinterface to recieve bug reports. All >> the information about the reporters system that is automatically >> gathered about architecture, package versions and such. > > reportbug-ng does *not* gath

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > A reply to off topic message to the development list. Insulting -- yes. Why? People do mistakes, they can learn if you tell them how to do better. They don't if you aggress them and scare them away, just like you did. > > Please either address the points

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Brice Goglin
Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2007-07-21, Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> bug reports pretty easy. It isn't the web frontend you'd like to see, >> but I think it is a good and user friendly alternative. >> > > I prefer reportbug-ng over any webinterface to recieve bug reports. Al

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Oleg Verych
>> [incensed ranting on the topic of web applications] > > Oleg, your response doesn't seem to be in response to the message you > quoted. A reply to off topic message to the development list. Insulting -- yes. Why? In dry lanuage: "post your thoughts in your weblog, come here with patches" Tha

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 10:52:52AM +, Oleg Verych wrote: > i tried to make some social statements, Any reason why you believe debian-devel is the right mailing list for `social statements'? Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Bug#434073: ITP: lua-xmlrpc -- xmlrpc facility for the lua language

2007-07-21 Thread Enrico Tassi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: lua-xmlrpc Version: 1.0b Upstream Author: Tomás Guisasola URL: http://www.keplerproject.org/luaxmlrpc License: MIT/X Description:

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Oleg Verych
>> > p.s. if this is wrong list, please shoot me... >>=20 >> So, please, don't just talk. Try to make something above average >> first. Then try to support it for some time, then go back to your >> questions, and know wise answers. > > Not only you are very harsh and aggressive, but there is defi

Re: what happened to g77-3.4-doc?

2007-07-21 Thread Warren Turkal
On Thursday 19 July 2007 00:43, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Why I need this:- I was trying to compile refblas3 package with gfortran > instead of g77. I have had a reworked Debian package for refblas3 that uses gfortran for a while. It compiles. However, the regression tests don't pass for som

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-07-21, Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > bug reports pretty easy. It isn't the web frontend you'd like to see, > but I think it is a good and user friendly alternative. I prefer reportbug-ng over any webinterface to recieve bug reports. All the information about the reporters sy

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Bastian Venthur
Carl Fürstenberg wrote: > The major problem with the current system, is that it requires that > the reporter has access to a mail server, if they want to use the more > easier variant by using reportbug script. their other alternative is This is not true, reportbug can send mails directly to the

Re: libquicktime transition

2007-07-21 Thread Fabian Greffrath
> The timing is unfortunate, because smilutils is already tied to the > glib1.2 transition and had not yet been built on all architectures. Hey, at least we waited until after the ffmpeg transition. ;) @Loic: Opps, sorry for the typo! Cheers, Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Ben Finney
Oleg Verych <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 20-07-2007, > > The major problem with the current system, is that it requires > > that the reporter has access to a mail server [...], their other > > alternative is to send an email from their webmail [...]. > > > > Perhaps I'm out on deep water here, bu

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 07:09:44AM +, Oleg Verych wrote: > > p.s. if this is wrong list, please shoot me... > > So, please, don't just talk. Try to make something above average > first. Then try to support it for some time, then go back to your > questions, and know wise answers. Not only y

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 12:52:43AM +0200, Carl Fürstenberg wrote: > The major problem with the current system, is that it requires that > the reporter has access to a mail server, if they want to use the more > easier variant by using reportbug script. their other alternative is > to send an email

Re: Thoughts about the bug tracking system

2007-07-21 Thread Oleg Verych
20-07-2007, > When I'm locking at the BTS, I sometimes get the feeling it was either > designed a long time ago, Is it good or bad? > or that it was designed by real hardcore developers. Not that it isn't > effective, as when you have learned the whole system, you can query it > pretty fast, but