Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-02 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > There are currently 72 things that link against imlib. I suspect that > > > about half were linked with the 'old' imlib and half with the 'new' imlib. > > > > That's to be expected. The current situation demands that all those > > apps should be

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-02 Thread Jim Pick
> > There is apparantly an EGCS patch called libapi, available in the > > Debian egcs package, which is supposed to implement the above. > > Adopting and improving this patch would definitely solve your GNOME > > problems, Jim. > > Can you give us some pointers? This sounds like a good thing for

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If glib, gtk, gnome, imlib, etc used versioned symbols then yes you > -might- advoid this. > > -HOWEVER- my understanding how how versioned symbols would need to be > implemented would make this pretty much impossible for a large portion of > the lib

Re: Proposal for new architecture support/distribution

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
"Phillip R. Jaenke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kernel and hardware incompatibilities can lead to binary > incompatibilities. > Plus, IIRC, the current PowerPC distributions are all > compiled for UP. As I said, most RS/6000's are SMP. You'd have a separate RS/6000 kernel which would be comp

Re: List of bugs that *must* be fixed before releasing Slink

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale E. Martin) writes: > Oscar Levi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In my opinion, this problem is not sufficient to warrant an upload at > > this time since, contrary to the bug reporters claim, it does not > > prevent the packing from functioning. It is annoying, yes. >

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > > > > libgdk-imlib1 in slink did not seem to depend on any glib, in potato it > > > depends on a new and incompatible glib from potato BUT the soname was not > > > changed. So

Re: Debian's -rpath policy [was: What hack in ld.so?]

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 12:19:48PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > > > In short, we have only three choices, regardless of what happens in > > > libtool: > > > > > > 1) Implement Red Hat's ugly patch in our libc5 ld.so, and thereby be > > >

Re: What hack in ld.so?

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Ian Lance Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:52:48 -0700 (MST) >From: Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> That's not what I'd like libtool to do. I agree there is a problem to >> be fixed, I just think that libtool is not the only piece of softwa

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > > > > I somehow sense that slink/potato gtk/gnome is going to be painfull.. > > > > I agree. I'm only planning to support Gnome 0.99.x/1.0 on potato. > > Oh, I was just

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1 Feb 1999, Jim Pick wrote: > > > > And note that it links to libglib twice. Turns out this is because there > > > is two 'gdk-imlib1' packages with the same soname but linked against > > > d

Re: Neat gtk/gdk-imlib pain

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is kinda neat, considering what we were talking about with libtool > and all, examine this ldd output: > > Wakko{jgg}~/work/apt#ldd `which wmakerconf ` > libgdk_imlib.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgdk_imlib.so.1 (0x4000f000) > libgtk.so.1

Re: Proposal for new architecture support/distribution

1999-02-01 Thread Jim Pick
"Phillip R. Jaenke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A bit of history first, as it is somewhat important. For those of you who > don't know; Linux runs on PowerPC's. Yes. It does. Now, what big names do > we know that have PowerPC based systems? Let's see. Apple. Amiga. UMax. > IBM RS/6000 (RISC Sys

Re: gnuserv/gnuclient problem

1999-01-30 Thread Jim Pick
Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, January 29 1999, Ionutz Borcoman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro > te: > |Hi, > | > |Is the gnuclient/gnuserv broken in XEmacs ? Using the latest versions > |from potato I am no more able to start a gnuclient :-( Is anybody else > |experiencing this ? >

Re: Call for mascot! :-)

1999-01-30 Thread Jim Pick
Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Bialasinski) writes: > >Hmm, with a strong enough improbability field, you will see dragons in >the sky. > > Dragons and octopi in the sky are Somebody Else's Problem. Flying Octopi? Sounds like a Detroit Red Wings gam

Re: /usr/lib/libgnomeui.so.0: undefined symbol: argp_program_version

1999-01-30 Thread Jim Pick
"Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > /usr/lib/libgnomeui.so.0: undefined symbol: argp_program_version > > This happens with some of the GNOME based packages I've installed > from both slink and potatoe lately... > > Any ideas what I'm missing or what I did??? You probably have mixe

Re: [Fwd: [Jikes-License] Jikes Parser Generator now available i

1999-01-30 Thread Jim Pick
Brent Fulgham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Try Japhar/Classpath: > > www.japhar.org -- free JDK (compiler, runtime, debugger, etc.) > www.classpath.org -- free implementation of the essential java libraries Plus... www.transvirtual.com -- Kaffe JIT www.mozilla.org -- ElectricalFire JIT Cheer

Re: libtool & rpath

1999-01-30 Thread Jim Pick
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A package I maintain uses libtool. To remove the rpath stuff, I > apply this patch to configure.in. Actually, I sort of like the following technique better: Add the following to debian/rules right before calling "$(MAKE) all" (but after configure):

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Jim Pick
Why don't we officially not have an official logo? If 5 years from now, everybody likes a certain "unofficial logo" (ie. Debian equivalent of the BSD daemon), we could go with that. Cheers, - Jim

Re: Proposal: increasing mirror security

1999-01-25 Thread Jim Pick
Lalo Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OTOH, we could just sign all packages with a same key ("the > Debian key"); when dinstall verifies the signature and md5sum in > the .changes file, it signs the package and updates > Packages.pgp). I prefer this method. Then we have less key distributi

Re: boot disk question/suggestion

1999-01-25 Thread Jim Pick
Ossama Othman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can the 2.1/2.2 kernels handle a gigabyte of memory? Yes. For more than 1GB, go to: http://humbolt.geo.uu.nl/Linux-MM/more_than_1GB.html There was a lot of discussion about this on the linux-kernel mailing list lately. > Also, I remember reading

Re: Help setting up Linux

1999-01-22 Thread Jim Pick
Greg Hedger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just installed Debian Linux - just the kernal and the core system, no > XWindows, no frills. So where can someone new to Linux (indeed Unix) > find answers to very basic questions like "how do I mount a floppy > drive," "can I read a FAT32 partition,"

Re: Unsatisfied depends in slink main

1999-01-22 Thread Jim Pick
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > giflib3g-dev gdk-imlib-dev > giflib3g-dev imlib-dev > giflib3g-dev libfnlib-dev The full dependencies for these is more like: libungif3g-dev | giflib3g-dev Basicall

Re: Developers in Cali...

1999-01-21 Thread Jim Pick
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > > > OK, in the past week or so I've seen several people posting from > > > California. Has anyone thought of having a gathering in some semi-central > > > location? Get to know faces, sign keys, etc? > > > > I would be

Re: Intent to package cygnus-stylesheets

1999-01-19 Thread Jim Pick
Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > >Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> >Essentially, Cygnus has forked the code. > >> > >> Huh. > > > >That might be a bit strong - I haven't really looked into the > >differences in depth. They are

Re: Intent to package cygnus-stylesheets

1999-01-19 Thread Jim Pick
Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > >Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I understand that Gnome needs db2* scripts... why do they need the Cygnus > >> stylesheets? > > > >They use them internally at Cygnus for their documentation.

Re: Intent to package cygnus-stylesheets

1999-01-19 Thread Jim Pick
Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Essentially, Cygnus has forked the code. > > Huh. That might be a bit strong - I haven't really looked into the differences in depth. They are being maintained separately, and they are tracking Norm Walsh's stuff. > I understand that Gnome needs d

Re: Intent to package cygnus-stylesheets

1999-01-19 Thread Jim Pick
Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > >Soon, I'm going to upload a "cygnus-stylesheets" package. It's > >basically the same thing as the docbook-stylesheets package, but it > >has some modifications and additional hacks that Mark Galassi has > >a

Intent to package cygnus-stylesheets

1999-01-19 Thread Jim Pick
Hi, Soon, I'm going to upload a "cygnus-stylesheets" package. It's basically the same thing as the docbook-stylesheets package, but it has some modifications and additional hacks that Mark Galassi has added. This package is based on the same source as what the Red Hat people are using. The Gno

Re: libpng & gnome & slink

1999-01-19 Thread Jim Pick
Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Stephen Crowley wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 09:14:14AM -0500, Brian Almeida wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 03:03:26PM +0100, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > and how the unfortunate of us who already have upgraded to 1.

Re: Emacs addon packages--compile upon install?

1998-10-18 Thread Jim Pick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes: > This morning I uploaded a version of w3-el that doesn't compile upon > installation--instead, there are separate precompiled packages for > Emacs 19 and Emacs 20, plus a shared documentation package. I see > this as a better way to go than forcing the end-

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-18 Thread Jim Pick
Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > > maybe a compromise would be to leave the packages in slink, make sure > > the Description: field highlights their alpha status, and automatically > > close all non-packaging bugs (and forward them up

Re: Gnome 0.30 fix?

1998-10-15 Thread Jim Pick
Chris McKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quick One... > > I know that the gnome 0.30 deb files are alittle messed up, > but I don't remeber every seeing a "fix" to the segv problems. Was > it a gtk/gdk problem with 1.0.x vs 1.1.x? I am trying to get eeyes > to work and not having muc

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Jim Pick
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Okay, everybody... It's that time again. I've gone through the bug logs > and made my list of packages to keep/remove should they still have > release-critical (i.e. critical, grave, or important) bugs at ship time. What do you think we should do with

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-14 Thread Jim Pick
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could I get some official word on which architectures wish to be included > in the 2.1 release of Debian? Thanks! ARM is nowhere near being release ready (we just started). Cheers, - Jim

Re: [TECH-CONTACTS] Debian

1998-10-07 Thread Jim Pick
Andrew Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 11:49:26PM +0800, Stephen Darragh wrote: > > Is there any way to get Debian to rebuild or repair a corrupted > > package information database (e.g. on beldin)? > > Not that I know of unfortunately. I'll ask on debian-devel as th

Re: Imlib NMU

1998-10-05 Thread Jim Pick
(RedHat does use the the upstream soname.) Until somebody gets around > > to releasing a "libjpeg62" package, we should stick with libjpeg6a. > Oooh. Interesting snag. So. We need to make a joint decision. I talked > to Jim Pick last night about putting 6b in slink, and ge

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-03 Thread Jim Pick
Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After you freeze slink, what will be then name of the new 'unstable' > release (debian 2.2 or 3.0 that is). If "Bug's Life" is any good, maybe we could snarf names from there... Cheers, - Jim

Re: gnome again

1998-06-22 Thread Jim Pick
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I should probably add that to the README - and maybe a note to try > > running "panel" to get to all the other applications. Anything else I > > should put into

Re: gnome again

1998-06-22 Thread Jim Pick
"Meskes, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Okay, I tried starting icewm and then some gnome applets resp. some of > the desktop tools. But they all seg fault. And I get a message that > imlib is lacking the file in /usr/etc. Do I have to set an environment > variable? > > I think we should

Re: New gnome packages

1998-06-22 Thread Jim Pick
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am I correct that we currently do not have a complete desktop with gnome? > Since there is no wm yet, it's pretty difficult to judge it. This is a Gnome FAQ item. Gnome is not meant to have a single window manager. In it's final form, it will work w

Gnome .debs released

1998-06-18 Thread Jim Pick
Hi, I've uploaded the Gnome 0.20 Debian packages to incoming on master.debian.org (also available at http://www.jimpick.com/ ) I had some problems with the gnome-admin package, so I didn't finish it. I will be travelling for 4 days, and I will figure it out when I am back. I also did not packag

ANNOUNCE: Debian NetWinder Porting Project

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Hi, I'm helping to organize an effort to port Debian GNU/Linux to run on the new Corel NetWinder NCs ( http://www.corelcomputer.com/ ). Debian GNU/Linux is the largest Linux distribution, with over 1500 packages and ports to Intel, Alpha, m68k, PowerPC and Sparc. It is being developer entirely

Re: [Fwd: Debian Netwinders]

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As for the machines, he says the developers versions are the > top-of-the-line model, with a 3.1 GB hard drive and 64 MB of RAM. I > think they are based on a 233MHz StrongARM. ^^ Oops, make that a 275MH

Re: [Fwd: Debian Netwinders]

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Behan Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Looks like you guys can talk to Chris or San directly about Netwinder > development if you wish. I just phoned Chris Herrnberger (the OCLUG guy), and quizzed him. He says Corel has loaned OCLUG ten Netwinders for development purposes. If we want to g

Re: Corel Network Computer Port

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Behan Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I also have an offer from one of Brian's friends (he was lent one of the > Netwinders). He is willing to give a few people accounts on his > Netwinder. He just has a few security concerns to address first (he's > got to pick up a hub to connect the Ne

Re: Corel Network Computer Port

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When/if they are ready and Corel doesn't want to sell them directly, > someone like varesearch or linuxmall could be convinced to become > resellers. (Or even Red Hat would be interesting...) Even non-traditional channels could resell them (as long as

Re: Corel Network Computer Port

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Behan Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > They are only giving discounts to OCLUG members, but since I'm in OCLUG, > I could probably approach the appropriate people to do some enquiries. > I wouldn't hold your breath though. OCLUG is very RedHat based. I've talked to some of the Corel guys

Re: Corel Network Computer Port

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I bet we could brow-beat Corel into donating a few boxes. I heard > > they go as cheap as $300 US for a diskless configuration. > > It's all just rumors, I've heard nothing back from them. We might > have to brow-beat them into selling boxes. You

Re: Corel Network Computer Port

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 21:20 -0700 1998-06-05, Steve Dunham wrote: > >Does anyone have any definite information on the Corel Network > >computers? Is anyone else interested in doing a Debian port? > > Vincent Renardias is apparently working on an arm port of Debian (In bu

Debian Gnome anxiety cure

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Pre-release .debs (still under construction). 24 of 'em, more to come. ftp://ftp.jimpick.com/pub/debian/testing/ Be fore-warned - they've hardly been tested. Also, the imlib packages aren't the real ones - they're just quick hacks so I could compile the rest. Sean Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-03 Thread Jim Pick
> > What news servers besides slrn support reading news directly from the news > > spool w/o a news server? > > tin (rather than tin -r or rtin). Gnus (in emacs). Cheers, - Jim pgppKPgXPsA90.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
John Labovitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > The whole exim package is about 500k, which only takes 5 minutes or so > > to download via modem - so I'd probably stick with that (unless > > something better comes alo

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think smail or exim would do fine. I'm in love with exim myself. :-) The whole exim package is about 500k, which only takes 5 minutes or so to download via modem - so I'd probably stick with that (unless something better comes along). MTA choices

Re: Time to say goodbye...

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The discussions of the last days have shown me clearly, that I can't > implement my ideas WRT policy/QA anymore. > Therefore, I've decided to leave the Debian project. Sorry to see you leave. I must admit, I've been entirely negligent in followin

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
Drake Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1 May 1998, Jim Pick wrote: > > > I'd like to see more people announce that they want to develop their > > own "subset" Linux distributions based on Debian. I'd be willing to > > collaborate on to

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 11:10:39PM -0700, Jim Pick wrote: > > > - targetted towards desktop use only, no server apps, just a few games > > > > - minimal size - optimized for installation via 28.8k modem via FTP, &g

Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
Hi all, I read with interest Bruce's post that he wants to work on another Linux distribution. :-) As long as we are talking "pie in the sky" stuff, I thought I'd let loose with the news that I am also developing an alternative Linux distribution. I've sort of hinted about it on several of my

Re: on forming a new Linux Distributionx

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > From: Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For what it's worth, GIF support is doable with free software, just not > > compressed gifs. [gif supports a variety of compression mechanisms, > > including "none".] > > The patent expires in August. > >

Re: Gnome debs?

1998-04-20 Thread Jim Pick
David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > GNOME is currently not very stable and things are changing very > > rapidly. Jim Pick is the GNOME guy for Debian. Give it a few more > > weeks and I think you will see more. I've got most of the packaging for gnome 0

Re: /tmp exploits

1998-04-20 Thread Jim Pick
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We should modify our libc so that opening a file in /tmp or /var/tmp - > determined by simple string comparison of the filename passed to > open(2) - fails if O_CREAT is specified without O_EXCL. > > We should do this in slink. That way almost any progr

Re: intent to package jstation

1998-04-15 Thread Jim Pick
Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bummer! I can't help here unfortunately (I'm a jdk source licencee) but > I thought Jim Pick had expressed an intention of persuing free JVM > implementations. > > Jim? I'm freeing up the rest of this week, so I w

Re: jdk1.1-runtime

1998-04-10 Thread Jim Pick
Corey Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When I try to install jdk1.1-dev (I want to install JavaICQ, which > makes use of the jdk), it says that it depends on jdk1.1-runtime. I was > wondering where I could find this package? I looked in incoming, frozen, > unstable, and even used the pa

Re: Number of Maintainers

1998-04-10 Thread Jim Pick
Brian Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After both Manoj Srivastava and Bob Hilliard pointed out to me the faults > in using the Maintainers file for determining the number of maintainers, I > have decided to use the Debian PGP keyring. After deleting duplicate keys, > the keyring says that

Re: Guile question: What was bug #14213???

1998-04-07 Thread Jim Pick
the bug was in under ten lines of description. > > guile (1.2-3) unstable; urgency=low > > * Removed --with-threads and --enable-dynamic-linking options > (should fix #14213, 14214 - Thanks John Goerzen) > * Added ldconfig to postinst > Fixes Bug #41212 -

dwww Missing-in-action

1998-01-06 Thread Jim Pick
Sorry, For those holding their breath... I had system problems this weekend. I'll have dwww ready next weekend. Cheers, - Jim pgpFTRhdIqcvr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bleeding edge FTP repository updated to glibc2 + egcs.

1998-01-02 Thread Jim Pick
Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anybody already noted this here? [ Cut - Posting about Yggdrasil packages - RPM/deb/slackware/yggdrasil from common source ] Looks interesting! I wonder if they are proposing a new source packaging format - or if they are building all the b

The next dwww (was Re: Financial support)

1998-01-02 Thread Jim Pick
> > Look for an updated dwww package and a new "kaffe+kore" package this week > > > Yuhuu! > > Is it the version with the "big step forward", you promised some time ago? Unfortunately, not. It's more of a "fix as many of the 40 bugs as possible" release. It'll be a

Re: dhelp 0.2 - a online help system

1998-01-02 Thread Jim Pick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I like it but... I like it too. > 1) How about dwww? (Yes, I know dwww needs a web server...) I think I'll add support for .dhelp files to dwww too. > 2) I really dont like to have 2/3/... methods of building indexes > of documentation installed in the debian syst

Re: Financial support

1998-01-02 Thread Jim Pick
> Pardon me for a nosy question. Does Debian have any money flowing in > from users that is used to compensate full-time Debian developers? Debian does solicit donations to Bruce Peren's "Software in the Public Interest, Inc." non-profit to help defray costs (like Internic fees, etc.). Here's a

Re: slib and Debian ?

1997-12-27 Thread Jim Pick
[ Sorry for the exploding cc: list - this is a Debian packaging issue, so please limit the follow-ups to debian-devel. ] Mark Galassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jim> Perhaps I should declare a dependency on the slib package, > > Absolutely not! It would be a great loss if Guile were *

Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)

1997-12-27 Thread Jim Pick
> I don't know if this is a bug with procmail(3.10.7-1.5), exim (1.81-1), or > me, so I thought I would ask. I recently switched to exim from smail on my > hamm (currently as up to date as possible) which unfortunately bounced all > of my mail. It seems that exim doesn't like the mail filter pipe

Re: ldconfig warnings

1997-12-22 Thread Jim Pick
> Yes, it is discussed in the Debian Packaging Manual, section 12. > See: > /usr/doc/dpkg/packaging.html/ch-sharedlibs.html > > You should just go ahead and file bugs against packages which don't > include the .so link as part of the package. If I understand this correctly, there is no need to

ldconfig warnings

1997-12-21 Thread Jim Pick
Hi, This is a minor annoyance, but it always bothers me. When upgrading or reconfiguring, I chronically end up with "orphaned" lines in /etc/ld.so.conf. ie. Currently, on my main Pentium system... ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libgtk.so.1.0 (No such file or directory), skippin

Re: Thread safe X libs?

1997-12-10 Thread Jim Pick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark W. Eichin) writes: > > Check out the forwarded message below. I get the same error using > > Debian unstable. Does this mean that Red Hat has thread-safe X libs > > and we don't? > > Well, I wouldn't mistake that for a bug report... no indication of > *what* is produci

Thread safe X libs?

1997-12-10 Thread Jim Pick
Check out the forwarded message below. I get the same error using Debian unstable. Does this mean that Red Hat has thread-safe X libs and we don't? Cheers, - Jim --- Begin Message --- On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Sascha Ziemann wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/szi$ phaser_chess > warning -- no way

Re: going to package e

1997-12-04 Thread Jim Pick
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I intend to package the beta enlightenment window manager, imlib, and > the default themes. If anyone wants to do it instead, I'll happily > fall back to kibitz mode -- let me know. Lalo Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did a package of beta 12, back in Augu

Re: Debian GNU/Linux Logo chosen

1997-12-02 Thread Jim Pick
> The logo I chose is > > http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/profile/si02.html Good choice. You forgot to give some credit to the artist (Simon?) though. Do you think SPI should trademark it? What sort of licensing do you think would be best? What does the original

Re: Vision of new installation method using webserver

1997-06-30 Thread Jim Pick
Sounds slick. It wouldn't be too hard to do. It would be slick to have some more network smarts (like DHCP, and dialup to an ISP) on the boot disks (or some variant thereof). As for configuration via the web - check out the GPL'd Java telnet applet I've got installed on my webserver (http://ww

debian-non-US mirrors (was Re: debmake)

1997-06-30 Thread Jim Pick
> I couldnt help but notice that there are no Canadian or even American > (South or Central) mirrors of debian with the non-us category. Actually, I do have one on my server (in Canada): ftp://ftp.jimpick.com/pub/mirrors/debian-non-US/ Canada doesn't have a NSA-like organization that has to pr

Re: fixhrefgz unnecessary when fixing web-browsers in the correct wayR

1997-06-30 Thread Jim Pick
> Hi, > > Also, 11M may not be a typical install. I get a far higher number: > __> du -s /usr/doc > 92026 /usr/doc > > Uncompressing this is very likely to annoy me. 11M was for my old 386 box (no X installed) - I'm only using about 200M total on that system. That works out to ab

Re: fixhrefgz unnecessary when fixing web-browsers in the correct wayR

1997-06-29 Thread Jim Pick
> > I just did a "du -s /usr/doc" on my 386DX/33 (8MB RAM, 2-200MB HD) - and > > it only has 11MB of docs installed. So uncompressing those isn't going > > to kill me - I'm sure most other people using old hardware have similar > > usage. > > > > Who objects? > > I do. > text/html/ps usua

Re: fixhrefgz unnecessary when fixing web-browsers in the correct wayR

1997-06-29 Thread Jim Pick
> I only advocated this as a compromise. I am for #1. And I would go further > and abolish all compression everywhere. Compression should only be done if > its transparent for all apps (e2compr or zlib?). I have seen so many > broken packages because of manpage compression etc etc. The clean solut

Re: Sub-categorizing the /usr/doc directory.

1997-06-29 Thread Jim Pick
One complication I can think of - dselect and the ftp sites have the concept of "overrides", where Guy can change the section a package is assigned to. This wouldn't be reflected in the /usr/doc directory - of course, this might not really matter. Cheers, - Jim pgpkROZcuIbKB.pgp Description

Re: fixhrefgz unnecessary when fixing web-browsers in the correct wayR

1997-06-29 Thread Jim Pick
> >You can't fix the browsers, because we don't have the source for important > >browsers like netscape. > > You mean the Debian Project caving in and changing its standards because > some non free product cannot be changed? Where is our commitment to free > software? We shouldn't be changing

Re: Documentation stuff

1997-06-28 Thread Jim Pick
Karl wrote: > > Can't apache do that? I think there's a mod-rewrite that will do > > what we need. Though I suppose not everyone runs apache... You tell > > me and we'll both know. I think it's a good idea to have a > > light-weight server that can launch from xinetd. I wrote: > The only way

Re: Documentation stuff

1997-06-28 Thread Jim Pick
> I really want the glimpse searching that TkMan has, but within the > XEmacs interface. `dwww' has it, but for some reason it does not find > as many manual entries as Tkman does for the same search. I wonder > why? Perhaps a generalized perl script (or pull the tcl out of tkman > that does i

Re: fixhrefgz - tool for converting anchors to gzipped files

1997-06-28 Thread Jim Pick
[ I hate to wade into this, but ] > >However, as you surely know, this does not work without web server, since > >the browsers are not looking for "foo.html.gz" if "foo.html" is > >referenced. > > Yes. But if you change the references then the web-serverws will no longer > do on the fly dec

Documentation stuff

1997-06-28 Thread Jim Pick
Hi! Sorry for being absent from most of the conversation, and not getting my latest release of dwww out... - I was working in Vancouver last week, came back, got sick, one of my main modems burnt out (lightning?), I replaced it, upgraded my server, messed up PPP, didn't configure the modem corr

Re: Moving away from MD5

1997-06-23 Thread Jim Pick
Thomas Koenig wrote: > I think we should start moving away from MD5 as our main hash function. > An attractive alternative would be RIPEMD-160. > http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~bosselae/ripemd160.html This is probably a good thing to agree to do, before Klee redesigns dpkg to handle verificatio

Re: FW: [NTSEC] (Fwd) DESCHALL Press Release

1997-06-23 Thread Jim Pick
> I have some computers up running in that challenge and I could easily > contribute there output to the debian group, if we are going to have > one. > > So will we have one, or will we do it each one by himself? It's up to you - nobody's really organized anything. Some people are already run

Re: FW: [NTSEC] (Fwd) DESCHALL Press Release

1997-06-23 Thread Jim Pick
> People did complain that we were promoting Debian to the > detriment of Linux. Yes - but remember, some of the people participating in these contests were acting pretty infantile. Instead of focusing on solving the problem, they want their team to be at the top of the list at all costs, inclu

Re: FW: [NTSEC] (Fwd) DESCHALL Press Release

1997-06-22 Thread Jim Pick
> > I suggest to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as common identifier for Debian > > friends. In case we get the money (why should we ?) I suggest to pass > > 50% to Linux International and keep 50% for Debian. > > Please use an address at Linux International, not one in the Debian > domain. It is not our

Gone for a week

1997-06-15 Thread Jim Pick
I'm going to be away from my computer for approximately a week, while I travel to Vancouver and Nanaimo (B.C., Canada) on business. I probably won't be able to fetch my mail. Unfortunately, I slipped behind schedule for a few things - so I won't be uploading the "experimental" version of dwww to

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-15 Thread Jim Pick
> > All packages that provide HTML documentation should register these > > documents to the menu system, too. Check out section section 4.1, `Web > > servers and applications' for details. > > Is that as well as registering with dwww? I'm changing the way documents register themse

Re: New package notices via bug tracking system.

1997-06-11 Thread Jim Pick
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The real reason I'm replying to this: I wonder what the other developers > > think about bug reports that just say a new version is available (as opposed > > to, a new version is available, and fixes this nasty bug). > I think it's a good idea. I don'

Re: jdk1.1 - no dynamic Motif linkage package

1997-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
> Jim, > > why didn't you upload shared Motif library version of jdk1.1-runtime? > I just wonder if there is any reason for that. > > Thanks. > > Alex Y. The jdk1.1-runtime package can be used either way - read the /usr/doc/jdk1.1/README.linux.gz file for details. You can use a shared Motif

Re: Postgres95/PostgreSQL

1997-06-08 Thread Jim Pick
John Goerzen wrote: > Back in March, Siggy had indicated that he would be taking over > PostgreSQL development (the Postgres95 package currently in Debian is > now very out-of-date). I e-mailed him about this and got no response. Back on May 7, Siggy posted the following: > Hi all, > > after lo

Re: Debian's "Modify & Redistribute" Policy (was: the ncurses "brushfire")

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
> Regarding the assignment of copyright, I took that out of the draft > document. Yay! I knew you were a good guy! :-) Cheers, - Jim pgptBXGtMKzg2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian's "Modify & Redistribute" Policy (was: the ncurses "brushfire")

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
> Well, it's fine for the author to _require_ that modifications in the > program be returned to the author. It's just not acceptable for the > author to not allow modifications to be distributed. I don't think we should accept licenses that require modifications to be returned to the author, or

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
> On Jun 2, Jim Pick wrote > > Just so you understand why I'm so interested - I'm working on porting dpkg > > to cygwin32. > > Porting or re-implementing? If it's a port, dpkg is already under > gpl, so cygwin32 being under gpl shouldn't be an issu

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