Re: The Hurd wiki

2006-04-19 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Thomas Schwinge wrote: Since the old Hurd wiki is basically no longer satisfying both content wise and software wise and both parts are rather unfrugal to get sorted out easily, I'm about to present an idea of a new wiki system Neal pointed me to: URL:http://ikiwiki.kitenet.net/, which is in

nForce2 finally booting Hurd! stroke of luck

2004-06-22 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
It's been a long, long, time since I have had a working Hurd installation. My old Tyan Thunder Pentium II system used an incompatible SCSI card, and my new Asus A7N8X had simply defied all efforts of booting any kind of gnumach until last night. I had been fooling around with Bochs and the

Repost - A7N8X + Hurd ???

2003-04-04 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ok, I have a Classic HP Vectra Pentium 90 over in the corner collecting dust. I have run hurd in the past... I'm actually a minor Hurd developer. Look here... http://cvs.ossp.org/pkg/lib/pth/ChangeLog Search for Hilton and you will see: *) Add Autoconf support for GNU Hurd. [B. Douglas

Again, seeking advocate

2003-04-04 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Most of you probably don't remember, but I gave a good try to hack SMP support for OSKit/Mach over the last couple years. I still have full serial remote debugging capabilities via my Netwinder which I cross-compiled gdb for Hurd. I think that I'm Debian material, and I would be honored if a Hurd

New install failed A7N8X / XP2400+

2003-04-01 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I'm really not suprised though. I have been inactive with Hurd development for about a year. My old SMP box died, so I rebuilt it with an Asus A7N8X (nForce2) MoBo and and XP2400+. It runs great and I like it etc etc... So I figured I'd try and reinstall Hurd now that I have an IDE drive (my

This and that

2002-11-08 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Yea, I really need to get my Hurd booting again. I'm having some small problems with my hardware. I run a Tyan Thunder 100 with AHA-3490 pure UW-SCSI and dual PII-450. Debian's vanilla GnuMach works ( if I remember correctly ) but OSKit-Mach hangs and any home-made gnuMach fails also. I used to

Gnuish Hurd Banner

2002-11-07 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I haven't been very active in Hurd development lately since my latest hardware is a bit too sophisticated for gnuMach. Anyways, here is a very small bump-mapped version of one of my earliest Hurd banners. I've learned a few Gimp tricks lately so expect some really awesome Hurd artwork to follow

Re: Targetting an embedded ARM chip?

2002-09-15 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi. I have had some experience building cross-gcc compilers, and the gist of it is using the autotools configure program. Now, before you go any further, I need to confirm that you app is running arm-linux right? (Not CE). If so, then you will be booting an arm linux kernel and will be using the

Re: How does it go on the AGP-bus front?

2002-08-20 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I use an AGP card with Hurd (GeForce2MX), but AFAIK it just treats it like a PCI board. - Doug Ognyan Kulev wrote: Danalien wrote: I am wondering if there is now AGP-bus support för HURD? (I first asked this question a while back) In GNU/Hurd Hardware Compatibility Guide[1] is the answer to

Re: How does it go on the AGP-bus front?

2002-08-20 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Danalien wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I use an AGP card with Hurd (GeForce2MX) What a coincidence, I am also GeForce2MX(200) user :) So can I just burn the hurd iso images, reboot, start installing? Xor, is there a trick to get it running? No trick. Just set XFree86

Re: mach is dead...isn't it?

2002-08-06 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 06:35:56PM -0400, B. Douglas Hilton wrote: AFAIK, L4 just doesn't have this capability. It is faster in a uniprocessing scenario, but cannot scale in its current state. The L4/Hurd project is just trying to leverage existing code from Hurd so

Re: compiling new linux drivers into gnumach

2002-08-06 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Double-check your grub boot parameters. There has been some confusing stuff floating around on the net, and incorrect boot params cause the exact symptoms you are describing. This is an example of how I boot my oskit-mach: # from menu.lst title Debian GNU/Hurd (oskit-mach) root (hd0,0) kernel

Re: mach is dead...isn't it?

2002-08-06 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
No way! Mach still hasn't even hit its stride. It is designed for massive multiprocessing scalability across thousands and millions of nodes. Unfortunately Hurd hasn't advanced enough yet for it to really go online. Theoretically Hurder's could link their machines into one humongous supercomputer

Re: Oskit-mach tests

2002-08-03 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Jeff, I am still interested in hacking on SMP support for OSKit-Mach, but I have been busy and otherwise occupied for quite a while. I run a Tyan Thunder 100 Pro with dual Pentium II 450's right now. I haven't made the big Hurd update yet. I have a massive development network including the SMP

Re: Oskit-mach tests

2002-08-03 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi. Jeff Bailey wrote: Oskit doesn't currently claim to have SMP support - You've got a steep curve ahead of you. True, but I at least have a working SMP box to test things on. Would perhaps sponsor me and I will start seriously hacking away at OSKit-Mach again? Being an advocate for a

Re: The HURD on the desktop ?

2002-05-16 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Jeff I would love to help out with the websites. What can I do? Likewise I want to become an official Hurd developer but I am flabbergasted by the red tape and can't find any packages to adopt. - Doug Jeff Bailey wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 05:59:12PM +0200, David Nielsen wrote: c) I want to

Hurd SMP (Lack-Of) Progress Report

2002-04-28 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Sucks, but I am moving so all hacking on OSKit-Mach has ground to a a halt for now. My Hurd is still bootable via either GnuMach or 1cpu OSKit-Mach but thats all for now. My Gnu Pth (pthreads) hack for Hurd is still available on my netwinder server at http://www.gyrodynamic.net but I have not

Re: RMS interview on LWN

2002-04-04 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Moritz Schulte wrote: Bill Bland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and I'm confused about something: RMS says You can even use GDB to debug the file system while the system is running--thread-specific breakpoints allow you to... That is right. All the Hurd server run entirely in User space which makes

Re: The Motley Gnus

2002-04-01 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hey thanks for the good ideas. I'll try it out the next time I put on my artist's hat :-) Yeah, I have layers and such, but got better results by merging the words / thingy / hurd into a single layer, then plasmafying it etc. To make the blues I tinkered with the chroma curves quite a lot

Re: The Motley Gnus

2002-04-01 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
That sounds pretty funny. The levitating gnu is classic, maybe he could be a prototype. Do some kind of far-side like characture of a gnu and clump them together in a pack :-) Mike Warner wrote: I think I'm going to throw my hat into this ring. My tendency is to go with something humorous. I like

Re: Hurd Decal

2002-03-31 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
s guessing! Cheers! Timothy Rue wrote: On 30-Mar-02 21:29:44 Derek L Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DLD This would be so sweet on the back of a t shirt! DLD "B. Douglas Hilton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I made the colorful one of which you refer.Yo

Re: Doug's New Hurd Decal

2002-03-31 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Thanks for all the comments, Yeah, I admit its dark, I fooled around with the colors for hours and that was the best I came up with so far. It is pretty, but I admit it's hard to read. That might make somebody take a closer look :-) No problem making it square or any other shape, but some scheme

Re: Doug's New Hurd Decal

2002-03-31 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Here's a new version which is brighter, more legible, and subtly different. It's also bigger, about 20Kb was as small as I could make it and still have it look nice. As before, I have just linked to the pic on my own website here. As you can see there can be quite a lot of variations of

Re: Hurd Decal

2002-03-30 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I made the colorful one of which you refer. You can get it at http://www.gyrodynamic.net ( I got the debian thingy backwards, need to fix it someday ... or not. ) Cheers - Doug Mike Warner wrote: Awhile back there was an energetic discussion about a hurd logo. I'm putting up a new website that

Re: Hurd T-Shirts - anyone?

2002-03-23 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I think it would be cool if they had the preamble to the GPL on the back side. They used to have a shirt like that but don't anymore I think. - Doug Moritz Schulte wrote: Hello people, it seems there are more people interested in Hurd shirts than I thought - already approx. 20 (most of them came

Re: Can grub be made into a minikernel?

2002-03-20 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
no way to load the extra modules after the kernel, hence the need for a grub minikernel. However, the machine itself is very similar to a DEC Shark, which has some OSKit support. Port Grub to arm... yep that's a good start. I'll try it and see how rough it looks. - Doug Niels Möller wrote: B. Douglas

Can grub be made into a minikernel?

2002-03-18 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
The reason I'm asking is I've been setting up a Netwinder (Intel StrongARM) all weekend, and was thinking about compiling gnumach for it and see if it does anything. Except, Netwinder's nettrom seems only able to boot a linux kernel. No multiboot capability that I am aware of. If grub could be

OSKit-Mach --enable-smp=2: undefined reference to `set_ds

2002-03-18 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Just tried to compile w/ --enable-smp=2 and here is the result: gcc -g -nostdlib -nostartfiles -r -o oskit-kernel.o \ -Wl,-\( kernel.o clib-routines.o -L/usr/local/lib/oskit/.. \ -loskit_clientos -loskit_c -loskit_kern -loskit_lmm -loskit_com -loskit_smp -loskit_exec -loskit_unsupp

A Brandie-newish Netwinder joins my GNU Zoo!

2002-03-14 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
This is a nifty little box! Kind of like a Linux iMac, but probably not for beginners. An auxiliary server with nfs and tftp is pretty much a must for these things, with no floppy or cdrom they are tough nuts to crack! The way to recover a pre-owned netwinder without a root password involves

Re: [Dillo-dev]Dillo on Debian/Hurd - Compiled (see below) but malfunctions...

2002-03-14 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
assembler hacks. After all, computers are getting faster and more numerous all the time, but CPU's have changed radically! L8r! Sam Dennis wrote: Some time around 7 o'clock PM on March 12, a Tuesday, Sammy Mannaert wrote: B. Douglas Hilton wrote: It cheerfully complied with no problems, loads up

Re: yet more newbie questions

2002-03-12 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Unless you have a laptop or something, I would suggest picking up a cheap ethercard on Ebay or something. 3c509's are easily gotten for chump change. An EtherExpress would be the Cadillac. If you are lucky, you could copy some linux driver files into the oskit tree and hack this file:

Re: New oskit-mach debugging log - failed assertion 'port-ip_srights 0'

2002-03-11 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Well, I did some good old empirical research on this serverboot mystery and by changing this:-T typed ${root} $(task-create) $(task-resume) to this:-T typed ${root-device} $(task-create) $(task-resume) I can then get kernel to boot up to where it hangs at ext2fs.static with the

Re: New oskit-mach debugging log - failed assertion 'port-ip_srights 0'

2002-03-11 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ok, that worked! I got the -T typed from here: The Hurd Installation Guide http://web.walfield.org/papers/hurd-installation-guide/english/hurd-install-guide.html#SEC5 Next, the root file system server and the |exec| server must be loaded. This is done using Grub's boot module capability. The

oskit-mach SMP mode! Preliminary debugging stuff

2002-03-11 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi, I built a --enable-smp=2 kernel-ide and have determined that it crashes very quickly ( no real suprise ). It seems to be rebooting in main : ldt_init() but I am not sure. For some reason my sources got screwed up and I can't trace the program into the OSKit source. This last time ( which

cross-compiler madness!

2002-03-10 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I may have just scored on a used netwinder box. If so this brings my Debian GNU Zoo up to this: (current) alphatron: Debian Linux 2.0 ( laptop Compaq Contura 4/25c ) - The original! [gave to wife] pavilion: Debian Linux 2.1 ( HP Pavilion 8250 ) - Waaay faster than alphatron. [on loan to wife]

New oskit-mach debugging log - failed assertion 'port-ip_srights 0'

2002-03-10 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ok, I improved my debugging report. This time, I just loaded the debugger and hit c to let it run. It always crashed in oskit-mach/ipc/ipc_port.c at line 1126 in function ipc_port_release_send(). Through the use of breakpoints, I found that it fails the *third* time it runs through this function,

Re: New oskit-mach debugging log - failed assertion 'port-ip_srights 0'

2002-03-10 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi, mission accomplished. ${root} and $(task-create) are NULL. I don't fully understand how this works, so the ball is in your court. Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Ok, so there is a bug in the boot script cleanup handler. It should probably be more helpful. ;) module 0: /hurd/ext2fs.static

Re: New oskit-mach debugging log - failed assertion 'port-ip_srights 0'

2002-03-10 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Aha, I have found some discrepancies. My module lines are from Neil's web page: http://web.walfield.org/papers/hurd-installation-guide/english/hurd-install-guide.html#SEC5 Wherein he says: Next, the root file system server and the |exec| server must be loaded. This is done using Grub's boot

oskit-mach debugging log

2002-03-09 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi. I recompiled everything and was able to boot the oskit test kernels. Oskit-mach compiled as normal, I had to disable unix, examples/unix etc in modules.x86.pc It is exhibiting the same behavior as last week, and I have captured the debugging script. Here it is. Later, - Doug snip Script

Re: oskit-mach debugging log

2002-03-09 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
In reference to compiling oskit / oskit-mach Should I perhaps use gcc-3.0 ?? Disable optimization ? i.e. $ export CC=gcc-3.0 I did in fact build oskit-mach ( kernel-ide ) with gcc-3.0 but it didn't behave any differently than the one compiled with gcc 2.95.4 I'm not sure how to proceed, so I'll

Back at it - oskit-mach - starting from scratch

2002-03-08 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Right now I'm rebuilding oskit from the Debian sources and hopefully I'll get it right this time. It is really frustrating that the monster will not compile without hacks on modules.x86.pc I would use the Debian oskit package, except then where should the source be located for the debugging

Re: Problem Report: Segfault in oskit-mach

2002-03-04 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
(thanks to Debian, I didn't do anything) So I'm too busy drinkin' tonight to do any serious hacking. Party on dudes... Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 11:38:38PM -0500, B. Douglas Hilton wrote: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation Fault. 0x00156173 in trap_from_kernel

oskit-mach: gdb_break_stub() confusion

2002-03-03 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I am trying to follow Igor's instruction at this web page - http://hurd.dyndns.org/oskit-boot.txt First off, the patch doesn't compile properly. There are conflicting types between the prototype and the function. Here is the patch: --- gdb-stub.diff ---Index:

Re: oskit-mach: gdb_break_stub() confusion

2002-03-03 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Doooh! Ok, I get it. Never mind. I run the program gdb-break on the running Hurd system. Daniel Wagner wrote: When you attach gdb the kernel, set a breakpoint at gdb_break_stub. Then start you kernel (pressing 'c'). Say you want to debug a function in the kernel where you don't have break

Re: oskit-mach: gdb_break_stub() confusion

2002-03-03 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Well, the install from tarball went fairly smoothly. Here are a few notes from my experience today. - native_install did not add root to group root, so a lot of things got installed as root.1005 - If you don't have a floppy drive, then /dev/fd causes a lot of programs to segfault, and it is

Problem Report: Segfault in oskit-mach

2002-03-03 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi, I worked all day attempting to recompile oskit and oskit-mach and have yet to duplicate my astounding stroke of luck last weekend where I managed to get oskit-mach to boot. Sadly, it's been instant reboots all day long. I finally got it to crash at a trap now though on my latest compile. Here

Setting up oskit + oskit-mach source tree for debugging

2002-03-02 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I noticed my gdb isn't properly finding the oskit sources when I am stepping through the kernel. How should the source tree be arranged so that it works as expected? BTW: I allocated my 640MB IDE drive to oskit-mach since the problem with aic78xx seems formidable right now. That should enable me

First successful boot of my home-compiled oskit-mach!

2002-03-02 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I just did a cp -a of my /gnu partition onto oskit-mach's new home on the IDE drive. I was able to boot my kernel-ide with no problems. It happily fired up and gave me a Bourne shell with TERM=dumb and some error about /dev/console is not a console. I assume this is normal for oskit-mach. For an

Re: Setting up oskit + oskit-mach source tree for debugging

2002-03-02 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
sometimes. It usually takes me a couple tries to get it just right. - Doug Moritz Schulte wrote: B. Douglas Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I noticed my gdb isn't properly finding the oskit sources when I am stepping through the kernel. How should the source tree be arranged so that it works

hppa - x86 gdb cross debugger for oskit-mach

2002-02-24 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Another tough question, as usual. Since I didn't exactly cross-compile oskit-mach or oskit, do I really need to make a i386-pc-unknown-gnu0.2 cross debugger for oskit-mach? That target really isn't supported too well on the debian-hppa flavor of gdb. However, if I could say, use an

Re: hppa - x86 gdb cross debugger for oskit-mach

2002-02-24 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
You know, I'm not sure I really need a cross-debugger at all. It seems that gdb includes a whole bunch of targets. I'm not sure where I got this idea that I needed to do this, but I think it may be wrong. - Doug I wrote: Since I didn't exactly cross-compile oskit-mach or oskit, do I really need

Re: hppa - x86 gdb cross debugger for oskit-mach

2002-02-24 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ok, I _do_ need to enable a cross-debugger. Here is an excerpt from the info page for gdb. `--target=TARGET' Configure GDB for cross-debugging programs running on the specified TARGET. Without this option, GDB is configured to debug programs that run on the same machine (HOST) as GDB

Success! (Was Re: Compiling gdb-5.1.1-1 on hppa)

2002-02-24 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
It worked! Muahhahah... now armed with my cross-debugger, my army of evil robots will conquor the world! Er, uh, nevermind about that. Anyways, I built puffin's cvs source for gdb 5.0 / hppa and gave it this rather simple configure line: ../configure --target=i686-linux It cranked and chugged for

Re: Success! (Was Re: Compiling gdb-5.1.1-1 on hppa)

2002-02-24 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ok, it actually works! I was able to attach gdb to my kernel via ttyS0 and step into the code. That is really nifty... well the work week is about to start again so my hacking time is about to evaporate, but I had a really productive weekend. Accomplishments: 1. Compiled OSKit correctly with

i386-gnu OSKit (Was: something funny about...)

2002-02-23 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ok, that looked promising for OSKit at least. It appears that the -D__ELF__ is what has been messing me up. Maybe this will work for me now... Oh, i used --prefix=/usr/i386-gnu so that the libs and headers get installed for the cross-compiler in the preferred place. I think this is right. I tried

oskit-mach possible bug .. #include string.h

2002-02-23 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Just CVS'd the oskit mach branch, and while compiling make broke because it could not locate string.h in about six files located in kern/ and oskit/ I changed these as such /* #include string.h */ #include oskit/c/string.h Was this the right thing to do? BTW, sadly I can compile these kernels but

Aha... my cross-compiler is the culprit!

2002-02-22 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I have attempted to get this OSKit-Mach development system working for a while now, and all of my home-made kernels either get User Trap 2 or else just reboot themselves. However, I was able to boot Marcus's old 1999 test kernel and it booted up until it didn't find an ide drive. Thus, I suspect I

Something funny about OSKit 20000202

2002-02-22 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
When I first run make, it usually crashes, but then if I make clean and run make a second time it will compile. I'm having a terrible time with this, I have compiled OSKit many times tonight and many attempts with oskit-mach. The one time it completed the make the kernel instantly rebooted my

Re: Victory! GNU Pth built / tested on Hurd!

2002-02-19 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Well sure, cthreads is ancient. I'm not disputing that, and pthreads has a lot more functionality. It is imperative that Hurd get its native pthreads fixed up. I hope you don't think that now that we have this cheezy Pth implementation that people will forget about it, rather I hope it will incite

New pth attempt - failed (for now)

2002-02-18 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I was trying to get a pthread substitute going and tried old pth. Apparently this has been done before and the same problems - tests for sigstack and sigaltstack make Hurd go out to lunch. I think it will compile, and I am hacking configure.in to try and disable these tests and go with the

Re: Victory! GNU Pth built / tested on Hurd!

2002-02-18 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ok, I have enacted my changes and have created a pretty decent patch for pth-1.4.1 which you can get here: http://www.geocities.com/doug_hilton/ I decided against posting it to the list as it was around 8k when gzipped. I have run minimal tests so far, but the pthread test appears to be

Re: Victory! GNU Pth built / tested on Hurd!

2002-02-18 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi! Well, I ran all of the test apps and they appear to work. For my own test I compiled the web browser Dillo which relies on pthreads extensively. Amazingly it compiles and loads, but it appears to malfunction. It gave an error about no shmem and loaded, but would not follow any url's and could

Re: Victory! GNU Pth built / tested on Hurd!

2002-02-18 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
. Douglas Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Well, I ran all of the test apps and they appear to work. I made a debian package of dmalloc recently, to do so i turned off support for pthreads. With it turned on it can debug pthreaded apps, maybe it would be usefull for testing.

Re: Victory! GNU Pth built / tested on Hurd!

2002-02-18 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ah, but the Hurd servers are already built with cthreads which is wired right into gnumach. Any OS-critical program should rightly be built using the facilities provided by Mach, I think, unless that is to be somehow abstracted? My understanding was that rather than a big monolithic kernel, the

Re: Request help (gdb cross debugger) Where is the latest best hppa1.1-unknown-linux-gnu source code for gdb?

2002-02-13 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ah, the agony of defeat. I'm throwing in the towel on this one. I did manage to compile gdb for hppa using the parisc-linux.org code, but when I tried to make the cross debugger for Hurd it wanted Mach headers for some reason. So I copied my headers over from the Hurd box, and make just blew up

Re: My Hurd is back online!

2002-02-11 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ok, I followed your instructions and got the same results. First, I tried make kernel-ide which compiled ok, but upon booting said ... Welcome to GNU Mach OSKit...?? and instantly went black and rebooted. I tried to hit the pause key a few times to read it but I'm not fast enough. Next,

Request help (gdb cross debugger) Where is the latest best hppa1.1-unknown-linux-gnu source code for gdb?

2002-02-11 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
that until you are full Jedi Kung-Foo masters, lest you be taken by the dark side... Thanks list! - Doug [1] On 09/07/2001, Matt Taggart wrote to me thusly: B. Douglas Hilton writes... To this end, I purchased a 715/80 box and loaded up Woody on it thinking (perhaps naively) that this would be an easy

Re: My Hurd is back online!

2002-02-07 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I'm just using the oskit in the Hurd deb package. However they compiled it is how I have it. - Doug Jeroen Dekkers wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 12:38:33AM -0500, B. Douglas Hilton wrote: I do have a P-II SMP machine with 440GX. I know that SMP is supposed to be broken, I wonder if it trys

Re: My Hurd is back online!

2002-02-07 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
installed and played with Debian on my 386 back in 1992! - Doug Jeroen Dekkers wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 12:35:41PM -0500, B. Douglas Hilton wrote: I'm just using the oskit in the Hurd deb package. However they compiled it is how I have it. No I'm talking about OSKit-Mach, not about OSKit

New Unrestricted Banner for Hurd Project (Binary Attached) gnu-hurd-banner.jpg (1/1)

2002-02-07 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Several months ago I made a Hurd banner from a real photo which was very cool, but had to retract it as the photographer wanted a royalty to use it. So now, I have artistically created my own banner, similar to the other one, using Gimp. I hereby release it for general use by anybody who

Re: New Unrestricted Banner for Hurd Project (Binary Attached) gnu-hurd-banner.jpg (1/1)

2002-02-07 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
, 2002 at 08:07:22PM -0500, B. Douglas Hilton wrote: So now, I have artistically created my own banner, similar to the other one, using Gimp. I hereby release it for general use by anybody who wants to use it in the spirit of the GPL. Nice! Can you make the G more like a G and less like a C

Re: New Unrestricted Banner for Hurd Project (Binary Attached) gnu-hurd-banner.jpg (1/1)

2002-02-07 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
M -0500, B. Douglas Hilton wrote: So now, I have artistically created my own banner, similar to the other one,using Gimp. I hereby release it for general use by anybody who wants to useit in the spirit of the GPL. Nice! Can you make the G more like a G and less like a C?Tha

Re: New Unrestricted Banner for Hurd Project (Binary Attached) gnu-hurd-banner.jpg (1/1)

2002-02-07 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
kind of fun! - Doug James Morrison wrote: Hi, I'm curious to see this picture, is it up on a website anywhere? --- B. Douglas Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several months ago I made a Hurd banner from a real photo which was very cool, but had to retract it as the photographer wanted a royalty

Re: New Unrestricted Banner for Hurd Project (Binary Attached) gnu-hurd-banner.jpg (1/1)

2002-02-07 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
For those of you with text only email and such, I apologize for the binary posts. As Mr. Morrison requested, I have put the new and improved banner online. Feel free to download it. Grumble... my whole geocites site has vanished without a trace. Here is a link to my new page which currently has

My Hurd is back online!

2002-02-06 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I finally remembered that I can just use vanilla debian gnumach.gz to boot since I switched back to the adaptec scsi. For some reason when I compile gnumach with aic7xxx it results in a kernel panic, but the debian flavor works fine. Anyways, I installed grub onto the Hurd partition and chainload

Re: My Hurd is back online!

2002-02-06 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ok, I got oskit-mach from cvs no problem (in Hurd) with your command there. I was able to configure and make with no problem. The only warnings I noticed were this: warning: __P redefined (stdio.h) Unfortunately when I booted kernel it rebooted so fast I didn't even have a chance to read any error

Re: Modified Cry for Help

2002-01-22 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Yes there is some inconsistency there. Here is a snippet of the problem: Setting this up isn't hard at all. It always is placed in /servers/socket/2, because that's where glibc will look for it. So be sure to install it this way: settrans /servers/socket/1 /hurd/pfinet --interface=eth0

Re: mach real time

2001-12-18 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
RT is especially important to me. I have a variety of microcontroller and industrial automation projects at my workplace just begging for something like a RT Hurd. IMHO Hurd would be a great platform for this kind of experimentation and using X11 and the not logged in account would be ideal for

Re: mach real time

2001-12-18 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Well in my cases, the user-land programs do not require any RT awareness other than being able to periodically empty a FIFO or somesuch. As long as the client can check the FIFO every second or so all should be well. We would implement the RT hardware monitoring code as a hack directly to the

Re: mach real time

2001-12-18 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Even better would just be a chipset that integrates gnuMach in hardware. - Doug Jason Telfer wrote: Will the GNU Mach microkernel ever be replaced, as far as the Hurd goes, with a completely new microkernel written from scratch with the specific aim of being used for the Hurd?

Re: dual-cpu intel860?

2001-10-19 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I have it running on a dual PII450 machine except it can only run one cpu right now. OSKit-Mach holds promise for SMP but it calls a trap when I boot it and I haven't been able to debug it yet. I suppose I ought to try and build it again now that all these core packages have been rebuilt. I

Re: dual-cpu intel860?

2001-10-19 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
What would be exciting would be to boot Hurd on one of those ultra density Crusoe rackmount server machines with 336 servers... Mach was actually designed to be used on such systems where it just goes and tries to grab CPU cycles wherever it can find them. Does anybody know if that code is still

Re: Average age

2001-10-02 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
! That is why I want to help be a OSKit-Mach kernel hacker... the business potential is enormous for the engineer! Thimk about it :-) - Doug Ryan Golbeck wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 10:51:35PM -0400, B. Douglas Hilton wrote: Where exactly is Kingston Ontario? I live in Bradford Pennsylvania and I can

Re: Average age

2001-10-01 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
You're right on track. I started using Debian in 1993 ( v 0.9something ) Lets see, I'm 34 now... 34 - ( 2001-1993 ) = 26 Well, I guess you have a six year lead on me. By the time you are 34 you will be a stupendous Debian wizard if you keep at it! :-) - Doug James Morrison wrote: Occationally

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd

2001-07-05 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
It is tricky. Hurd has dselect of course, but not all of the options seem to work. If you have ethernet then that is your best option for installing once you get bootstrapped. Somehow I read the easy guide and also the Debian Hurd FAQ's on the translators. One of the FAQ's will cover how to set

Re: Easy Guide Updates

2001-06-27 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
FYI, I believe the correct mouse setup procedure is to use settrans with the appropriate protocol; e.g. ps/2, but the big Hurd secret is to set the mouse type in XF86Config to osmouse. I posted something to this extent about adding this info to the Debian Hurd setup FAQ a while back. - Doug

Re: GCC-3.0 uploaded to incoming

2001-06-21 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Any ideas about how to port gnat to Hurd? I'm personally trying to use Ada instead of C++ from now on, and gnat would be cool to have in Hurd. The GtkAda annex is absolutely wonderful! The current gnat is built into gcc-2.8.1 and unfortunately to build gnat you already need an Ada compiler as

Re: Microkernel Q

2001-06-07 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
After researching this, and from some responses that I have recieved on this, I agree that it would be a rather pointless and also monumental task to accomplish this. My time would be much better spent adding more comments to the Mach sources and just working with them. And so that's what I'm

Hurd partiton weirdness

2001-05-30 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I used to have /dev/sd1s7 mounted as /CD1, and it worked fine. I had Hurd-F1 disk-1 there. In Linux I did rm -r dists in that partition, and then copied a bunch of stuff over. Now, when booting Hurd, that partition appears empty. When I reboot to Linux, all is well. I have enabled the new ext2

Re: Success with Hurd XFree86 - Notes

2001-05-23 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Here's where I got the info for the mouse setup. http://kt.zork.net/debian-hurd/dh2712_54_print.html Well, I finally got my copy of Programming Under Mach from an out of print book dealer. Adding this to my shiny new copy of Debugging with GDB, I am getting dangerously close to being able

Re: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp0'

2001-05-21 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi there, Here's how you use it, first prepend /usr/i386-gnu/bin to your path, then run it. example: $ cd /usr/src/myprogram $ vi myprog.c $ export PATH=/usr/i386-gnu/bin:$PATH $ gcc -o myprog myprog.c This goes for everything, just issue $ export PATH=/usr/i386-gnu/bin:$PATH before running

Got Hurd X11 to start... some issues though.

2001-05-16 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
I managed to get X to start up, but lacking a serial mouse at the moment I couldn't do much. I think I have a PS/2-serial adapter here somewhere if I can find it. Using the nv driver, I notice that each time I start / stop X, my console gets progressively darker. After the fourth time the

Re: oskit-mach boot failure report

2001-05-10 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi, Here is the info you requested, 76>(thunder)[/gnu/src/oskit-mach/build] $ sym-trace -o kernel 001fffba 0013ac4c 0013d23c 0012c4c5 Generating backtrace for object file kernel 0x01fffba in (0x01fff90) panic() 0x013ac4c in (0x013a9e0) user_trap() 0x013d23c in (0x013d236) _take_trap() 0x012c4c5

Re: Yaay! I compiled oskit-mach, except it doesn't work :-(

2001-04-29 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hello! I did another test boot and copied down the error messages. Here they are: ... skipping GRUB stuff Welcome to GNUmach 1.2.91-OSKit! user trap, type 2, code = 14295c Dump of trap-state at 0x0d6d7e80: EAX 000e EBX 001 ECX 0dadc000 EDX 0dadc000 ESI 20584145 EDI 0d6d7eb4 EBP 30303030

Re: Where can I get Hurd CD-ROMs?

2001-04-28 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Ho there, I have the Hurd F1 set here, and a burner. I'll sell a set for say $5 US plus any shipping. Go to www.iship.com to find your best shipping method. My shipping address is: Bradford, PA 16701, select carrier box @ 2 lbs 0 oz. I can accept credit card payment through PayPal or Yahoo! wallet

Curious - How much of Hurd depends on Mach?

2001-04-28 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi list. Sorry, I haven't had much time to Hurd-hack lately. After coding all day at work I just want to blast some monsters and read some Slashdot at home right now. I must say that using the QuakeForge OpenGL client with Quake Team Fortress and MegaTF is very fun! Who needs Half-Life TFC :-)

Yaay! I compiled oskit-mach, except it doesn't work :-(

2001-04-28 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
But it compiled with no warnings ( native Hurd compile ). Initially it failed, MiG wanted to use i386-gnu-gcc I did this: # cd /usr/bin # ln -s gcc i386-gnu-gcc Then back to the build # cd /src/oskit-mach/build # ../configure --host=i386-pc-gnu # make MAKE=make -j10 It built in a few minutes

Hurd SMP (lack of) progress report.

2001-04-25 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Well, I'm hooked up with Cable-Modem internet now though... Yippee! I have been very busy playing QuakeForge Team Fortress, you know, uh, debugging it and stuff :-) I have successfully compiled OSkit for Hurd and Linux, but am stumped with oskit-mach. In both Linux-i386-gnu and native Hurd it

Wow! I just built oskit in Hurd!

2001-04-17 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
... and the smp sample kernel booted! It took a grueling 75 minutes, wherein my spiffy UW SCSI hard drive made incessant grinding crunchy noises the likes of which I haven't heard since about 1990 with a ST225 MFM drive! ( I can build oskit natively for Linux in 10 mins ) But it worked! I must

Re: Wow! I just built oskit in Hurd!

2001-04-17 Thread B. Douglas Hilton
Hi, For some reason or other, I couldn't build oskit-mach in Linux. It has been a while since I tried it, so I'm not exactly sure why. I know I couldn't seem to cross-compile oskit, it choked on memcpy or something, couldn't link it properly. Maybe I was trying to cross-compile oskit-mach and

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