s than a decade before, this includes GSoC which does
not cost Debian money. So it would be a good thing to evaluate whether
we consider a longer term commitment to outreachy is profitable and
desirable, or we find the gap between expectation and reality suggests
something else.
Best regards,
Aron
People tried to hush up the outreachy issue but it is now time before Debian
wastes more money in another foolish round.
We have a woman in Outreachy who already did a lot for Debian, doing the Debian
booth at FOSDEM 2018, organising a miniDebConf in Tirana 2018 and organizing
Balkans biggest
On 6/2/19 3:39 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 21:04 +, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> [...]
>> However, without an HPE donation or discount, we are much more likely to
>> follow a less expensive approach: pairs of 2U servers with local
>> storage, etc. Still not cheap but not
It was pointed out to me that my mail could have been misread in a
number of ways. nothing in my message is meant to alter the delegations
currently in place. Rather, my desire is to further empower our
delegated teams.
If there are going to be any grants to fund work for some of our teams,
to
helping with as DPL.
There is insufficient support at this time to entertain paying salaried
positions from Debian money. Some of the objections include the
following. We don't have sufficient recurring funds. Managing people
and handling performance issues is a skill set we do not select for.
Doing
On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 09:24:59AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Philip Hands dijo [Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 10:51:10AM +0200]:
> > It occurs to me that we could establish some sort of hardship fund to
> > make sure that someone who's current situation falls below some minimum
> > that we could define,
Philip Hands dijo [Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 10:51:10AM +0200]:
> It occurs to me that we could establish some sort of hardship fund to
> make sure that someone who's current situation falls below some minimum
> that we could define, they would be able to apply for funding.
>
> For example, I recently
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 08:42:02PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Gunnar" == Gunnar Wolf writes:
>
> Gunnar> I am aware your example is just an example - But don't you
> Gunnar> think that following through with this would have a sad
> Gunnar> effect on the www team: It would be
> "Gunnar" == Gunnar Wolf writes:
Gunnar> I am aware your example is just an example - But don't you
Gunnar> think that following through with this would have a sad
Gunnar> effect on the www team: It would be equivalent to tell them,
Gunnar> "thanks for your work for so many
Sam Hartman dijo [Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 09:02:54AM -0400]:
> (...)
>
> With regard to Russ's concerns,
> I think that making short-term grants to work on specific projects might
> be much more achievable for us than salaries. It reduces the factors
> he's worried about.
> I think there would
On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 21:04 +, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
[...]
> However, without an HPE donation or discount, we are much more likely to
> follow a less expensive approach: pairs of 2U servers with local
> storage, etc. Still not cheap but not multiples of 100k.
>
> If a hardware vendor happens
]] Steve McIntyre
> On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 12:29:04PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>
> >This is a hugely important point: we're already seeing conflicts where
> >people conflate the paid-for LTS effort with other team's priorities.
> >If we move that funding closer to Debian, we're effectively
"G. Branden Robinson" writes:
> My two cents[4] is that DSA should make its purchasing and hardware
> solicitation decisions with the architectural security issue fairly far
> down the priority list. It saddens me to say that, but this new class
> of exploits, what van Schaik et al. call
At 2019-06-01T09:04:39+0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> Are we then looking more closely at AMD-based machines given that
> those had less problems around speculative attacks?
To borrow a phrase from Christopher Hitchens, this comment gives a
hostage to fortune.
My team at work closely follows (and
Jonathan Carter writes:
> On 2019/06/01 19:55, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I very much doubt that our current donation-driven model would generate
>> US $1M per year on a sustained basis, particularly if you subtract
>> DebConf out of the mix (which I think we should, because that money is
>>
On 2019/06/01 19:55, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I very much doubt that our current donation-driven model would generate US
> $1M per year on a sustained basis, particularly if you subtract DebConf
> out of the mix (which I think we should, because that money is essentially
DebConf tends to bring in
Adrian Bunk writes:
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 04:07:54PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I could well be entirely wrong, but the part that I would expect to be
>> the most controversial is that, once Debian starts spending project
>> money to pay people to do work that other people in the project
On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 12:29:04PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>]] Russ Allbery
>
>> These dynamics change a *lot* when the money is coming from
>> the project itself. That money is special; it's not just one more company
>> or foundation or whatnot that is providing resources to aid in a
On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 12:29:04PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Russ Allbery
> > Particularly now that my free time is rarer and more precious to me,
> > doing unpaid work for an organization that also has paid staff is
> > hugely demotivating. It's entirely plausible that paying for
> >
On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 09:09:26AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes:
>
> >>
> >> Talking about the issues involved in paying people to do work.
> >> What the options are, collecting people's concerns etc.
> >>
> >> I actually think the first
> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes:
>>
>> Talking about the issues involved in paying people to do work.
>> What the options are, collecting people's concerns etc.
>>
>> I actually think the first round of that can be done without
>> significant access to numbers.
> "Ondřej" == Ondřej Surý writes:
Ondřej>It might be worth looking on how other organizations in
Ondřej> our ballpark are doing stuff. f.e. IETF/ISOC is in similar
Ondřej> situation to Debian/SPI.
I'm no longer really involved in the IETF, but I was involved in the
IETF for
]] Russ Allbery
> These dynamics change a *lot* when the money is coming from
> the project itself. That money is special; it's not just one more company
> or foundation or whatnot that is providing resources to aid in a general
> volunteer project. It becomes a loaded statement about what
> But yes, it's entirely possible that I'm being too cautious.
I'd say, being cautious in this case is very warranted.
One of the things, that are good about Debian is, that it's _not_ cooperate.
"You will not work for free for a company. Debian is not a company."
Throwing in money has a high
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:46:02PM -0600, Eldon Koyle wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:08 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
> >
> > Adrian Bunk writes:
> >
> > > My biggest high level concern is the income side, since this is the most
> > > difficult part and will likely also be the most controversial
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 04:07:54PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Adrian Bunk writes:
>
> > My biggest high level concern is the income side, since this is the most
> > difficult part and will likely also be the most controversial one.
>
> I could well be entirely wrong, but the part that I would
Again I would suggest looking at https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4071 as a start
to learn from the experience of others.
It’s a change in paradigm, but somehow I feel that this is needed if we want to
keep up to par with other parties in the same field.
P.S.: At no point of time I am speaking
On 5/31/2019 11:04 PM, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> Before you ask: an insecure hypervisor is an insecure buildd.
Are we then looking more closely at AMD-based machines given that those
had less problems around speculative attacks?
Kind regards
Philipp Kern
work. Then this must also include balancing whether we can
improve the function if the function is contracted and there are “hard”
requirements.
Personally, I don’t have any problem with paying people with Debian money if
the competition for the function is transparent (thus done by third party
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:08 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> Adrian Bunk writes:
>
> > My biggest high level concern is the income side, since this is the most
> > difficult part and will likely also be the most controversial one.
>
> I could well be entirely wrong, but the part that I would expect
Ximin Luo writes:
> Nobody is suggesting that it won't be a hard problem to get right, but
> progress isn't made by worrying about all the things that could possibly
> go wrong. Figuring out a blueprint for organising large-scale work
> using more directly-democratic principles would have lots
Russ Allbery:
> [..]
> I respect the desire to try social experiments and be bold, but my counter
> question is whether Debian as a project has the right training and the
> right people to conduct a proper social experiment *here*, on *this*
> particular topic. Do we have economists?
Russ Allbery:
> [..] The failure mode here is that we lose contributors
> because of hard feelings over who gets paid and who doesn't get paid and
> how much they get paid and how they get paid, and the project ends up
> weaker and more fragile. [..]
>
> For example, you say "democratic mandate,"
Ximin Luo writes:
> A lot of people are already paid full-time to work on Debian. Wouldn't
> it be better to additionally have some other people be paid full-time to
> work on Debian under a democratic mandate (our voting system) rather
> than under corporate orders? At the very least, it would
Russ Allbery:
> Adrian Bunk writes:
>
>> My biggest high level concern is the income side, since this is the most
>> difficult part and will likely also be the most controversial one.
>
> I could well be entirely wrong, but the part that I would expect to be the
> most controversial is that,
dear Russ,
once again, many thanks for expressing nicely what I couldnt express
that well. My thoughts exactly.
--
tschau,
Holger, who first wanted to send this in private to Russ and
then decided against.
Adrian Bunk writes:
> My biggest high level concern is the income side, since this is the most
> difficult part and will likely also be the most controversial one.
I could well be entirely wrong, but the part that I would expect to be the
most controversial is that, once Debian starts spending
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:57:51PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:56:16PM +, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> > > For me this implies that Debian should aim at having at least US$500k
> > > reserves, to be prepared if there is no large donation coming for a
> > > future
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:56:16PM +, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> > For me this implies that Debian should aim at having at least US$500k
> > reserves, to be prepared if there is no large donation coming for a
> > future refresh.
> Plus another $300k in reserves for DebConf in case those
On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 01:50:25AM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 09:04:24PM +, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> >...
> > When we last crunched the numbers, maintaining a 5y refresh (to stay in
> > warranty, etc.) would require $75k-100k/yr. We've avoided that level of
> > annual
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 09:04:24PM +, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
>...
> When we last crunched the numbers, maintaining a 5y refresh (to stay in
> warranty, etc.) would require $75k-100k/yr. We've avoided that level of
> annual expenditure because we are keeping hardware longer than 5y and
> we've
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 05:29:42PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes:
>
> I agree that's missing.
>
> I don't think that is the important information needed to drive the
> discussions I'm hoping someone will drive.
>
> Instead I'm more interested in seeing
> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes:
I agree that's missing.
I don't think that is the important information needed to drive the
discussions I'm hoping someone will drive.
Instead I'm more interested in seeing discussions at a high level.
Talking about the issues involved in paying people to
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 07:49:25AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
> [moving a discussion from -devel to -project where it belongs]
>
> > "Mo" == Mo Zhou writes:
>
> Mo> Hi,
> Mo> On 2019-05-29 08:38, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> >> Use the $300,000 on our bank accounts?
>
> So, there
[moving a discussion from -devel to -project where it belongs]
> "Mo" == Mo Zhou writes:
Mo> Hi,
Mo> On 2019-05-29 08:38, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>> Use the $300,000 on our bank accounts?
So, there were two $300k donations in the last year.
One of these was earmarked for a DSA
towards having
clear guidelines for what is acceptable and what isn't in terms of spending
Debian money.
Please provide feedback on the proposed decisions -- they are not final
yet.
Hello, and apologies for being so late in responding. I only noted this
discussion after a DPL report
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 07:00:10PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
So, I really saw this purchase as purchasing Debian infrastructure hosted
at a Developer's rather than in a datacenter.
Alright, that's well-reasoned. Something I'd throw in as a possible addition
to this would be a formal
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013, Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org wrote:
I received a few requests for hardware purchases, that I think are worth
discussing with the project as a whole in order to progress towards having
clear guidelines for what is acceptable and what isn't in terms of spending
Debian
of spending Debian money.
Please provide feedback on the proposed decisions -- they are not final
yet.
A. Memory expansion cards for m68k buildds (expected cost: 500 EUR)
===
Widely quoting from a private mail:
| Debian has
isn't in terms
of spending Debian money.
Please provide feedback on the proposed decisions -- they are not final
yet.
A. Memory expansion cards for m68k buildds (expected cost: 500 EUR)
===
...
B. Powerful machine for d-i
Hi,
I received a few requests for hardware purchases, that I think are worth
discussing with the project as a whole in order to progress towards
having clear guidelines for what is acceptable and what isn't in terms
of spending Debian money.
Please provide feedback on the proposed decisions
Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org writes:
C. Laptop for developer (expected cost: 1k-1.5k EUR?)
=
I have no particular comment on the merits of this specific request, but
that cost jumped out at me. I don't know if systems are more expensive
On 2013-10-20, Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org wrote:
A. Memory expansion cards for m68k buildds (expected cost: 500 EUR)
B. Powerful machine for d-i development (expected cost: 1.5k-2k EUR?)
C. Laptop for developer (expected cost: 1k-1.5k EUR?)
As such, I think all of it sounds
Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org writes:
But I would welcome other ideas of criterias to apply here.
I think we should spend donation money only on things that benefit
everybody. Sponsoring hardware to help maintain core packages like d-i,
glibc, the kernel, etc would be okay. But buying
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:41:39PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
B. Powerful machine for d-i development (expected cost: 1.5k-2k EUR?)
=
The estimation is a bit too large for a decent desktop machine.
1. performing more
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 08:48:58PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:41:39PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
B. Powerful machine for d-i development (expected cost: 1.5k-2k EUR?)
=
The estimation is a bit
On Sun, 2013-10-20 at 09:11 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org writes:
C. Laptop for developer (expected cost: 1k-1.5k EUR?)
=
I have no particular comment on the merits of this specific request, but
that cost
will not accept a browser without working Flash. I
believe that should be a priority of the Debian project to provide a
complete free software desktop. And as Gnash is one of the few
projects where money will help speed up development, I believe
spending Debian money on Gnash is a good idea. Why should
[Gunnar Wolf]
Some of the big distributions have no moral problem in including
Adobe's propietary plugin, though. We do.
Really? I was not aware that it was a moral issue. I thought it was
a question of licensing, where the license from Adobe prohibited
distribution on the web by third
to notice any progress. I have not read all the mails
about how to spend Debian money but if you ask me money would be very
reasonably spent if this service would be back and running quickly.
Kind regards
Andreas.
[1] http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2008/09/index.html
[2] http
]. Since this time more than 13 monthes went without
that I was able to notice any progress. I have not read all the mails
about how to spend Debian money but if you ask me money would be very
reasonably spent if this service would be back and running quickly.
snapshot.debian.org is already
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 02:13:15PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
snapshot.debian.org
A DNS entry for this address containing a short status message would
be helpful.
Kind regards
Andreas.
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this time more than 13 monthes went without
that I was able to notice any progress. I have not read all the mails
about how to spend Debian money but if you ask me money would be very
reasonably spent if this service would be back and running quickly.
Work is progressing, and it's already mostly
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, Andreas Tille wrote:
provide this info there and ask the .jp admins to also put some
information about the status online.
Unlikely. The person who operated s.d.n is overworked as it is.
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Hi, Bernd:
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 19:14:41 Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Some months ago Debian asked for sponsored hardware:
http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090208
I did not read any news about his, so maybe we could use some
money for such infrastructure
]] Bernd Zeimetz
| Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
|
| No need for SAN, direct-attached SAS or a SAS enclosure would be sufficient
| for both snapshot.d.o and data.d.o (with a proper hardware-raid controller
|
| Remember, both services might start to grow pretty fast. A direct-attached
|
Hello,
It is worth to consider some key face to face and summits with OEMs [0] and
potential partners [1], along with funding developers meetings.
Canonical is already doing [0], as it is very needed. If I recall correctly some
time ago Michlmayr traveled to Asia for some oem meetings.
As an
Hello!
The main target of Debian Project is to produce the free and most
reliable linux distribution in the world. Developers donate their free
time to project, while users donate money. I think you should use that
money to assure that developers don't have to spent their private money
for
The main target of Debian Project is to produce the free and most
reliable linux distribution in the world.
Debian it's our 'product' and we are (very) proud of it.
And we also believe it's good to share it.
-- media to share it: Debian releases are media images full of free software.
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Some months ago Debian asked for sponsored hardware:
http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090208
I did not read any news about his, so maybe we could use some
money for such infrastructure hardware.
We were and are
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
No need for SAN, direct-attached SAS or a SAS enclosure would be sufficient
for both snapshot.d.o and data.d.o (with a proper hardware-raid controller
Remember, both services might start to grow pretty fast. A direct-attached
enclosure does not grow... (yeah,
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Some months ago Debian asked for sponsored hardware:
http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090208
I did not read any news about his, so maybe we could use some
money for such infrastructure hardware.
We were and are still hoping to get at least one machine sponsored
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 06:42:46PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
[...] but Debian could support companies started by its developers
to make a living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to
their capital.
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
[...] but Debian could support companies started by its developers
to make a living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to
their capital. [...]
We can't do that with moneys collected in the
MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop writes:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
We can't do that with moneys collected in the United States under the
aegis of Software in the Public Interest. It would jeopardize the
non-profit status of SPI. Non-profit charities are not permitted to
make
Hello Steve and everybody,
I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in our
world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers to make a
living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to their capital.
This way, Debian would invest in its
Jan Hauke Rahm wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:04:42PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt h...@ftwca.de [2009-09-10 16:01]:
Steve McIntyre lea...@debian.org writes:
4 Marketing stuff:
a box(es) of equipment to take to stands at various shows and
expos.
Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2009-09-09, Steve McIntyre lea...@debian.org wrote:
1 New hardware / equipment
a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like, along
with a set of donated machines that need configuring and/or
shipping. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 05:49:18PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Hello Steve and everybody,
I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in our
world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers to make a
living of their Debian-related activities, by
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in
our world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers
to make a living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to
their capital. This way, Debian
Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk writes:
On 2009-09-09, Steve McIntyre lea...@debian.org wrote:
c marketing to new developers: posters to put up at universities?
T-shirts or other gifts for new people working on bug-fixes,
translations etc.? Could be useful, but again expensive.
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:25:52AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in
our world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers
to make a living of their Debian-related
Hi,
Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
Yes. There's a kindof market point I've been wishing on Debian for
years knowing that it simply could happen: certifications and generally
rising attention to commercial producers, both hardware and (free/open)
software.
I think there's right now a thread on
Steve McIntyre lea...@debian.org writes:
4 Marketing stuff:
a box(es) of equipment to take to stands at various shows and
expos. Might be useful, but could be expensive. Where do we store
it/them? Who organises shipping?
I think this is something which we should pursue. I
Hi,
We have a significant amount of money, but I would not define it as a
huge amount.
There's quite a long list, in *rough* order of the priority I would
(personally) give them so far.
1 New hardware / equipment
2 Fund developer gatherings:
My full support to spend money on this. In
, getting
some tools put together or found that record money use, availability and
purpose.
http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/debian-money/
Regards, Martin Owens
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 00:57 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Steve McIntyre
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On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:19:21PM +0200, Harald Geyer wrote:
Well, after the dunc-tank desaster I started to recommend to people
not to donate any money to debian at all but to upstreams instead,
because debian has more money than it needs and giving more money to
debian only will cause DDs
Marc Haber mh+debian-proj...@zugschlus.de wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:19:21PM +0200, Harald Geyer wrote:
Well, after the dunc-tank desaster I started to recommend to people
not to donate any money to debian at all but to upstreams instead,
because debian has more money than it needs
There's a german association, Linux user in der Kirche[1] (Linux user in the
church), which plans to organize a booth on the next big meeting of the german
church in 2010.
They aim is to promote the usage of linux in the administrations of church
communities and of course private use of linux.
Thomas Koch wrote:
There's a german association, Linux user in der Kirche[1] (Linux user in
the
church), which plans to organize a booth on the next big meeting of the
german
church in 2010.
They aim is to promote the usage of linux in the administrations of church
communities and of
Thomas Koch wrote:
There's a german association, Linux user in der Kirche[1] (Linux user
in the church), which plans to organize a booth on the next big meeting
of the german church in 2010.
They aim is to promote the usage of linux in the administrations of
church communities and of
Thomas Koch wrote:
Thomas Koch wrote:
There's a german association, Linux user in der Kirche[1] (Linux user
in the church), which plans to organize a booth on the next big meeting
of the german church in 2010.
They aim is to promote the usage of linux in the administrations of
Martin Schulze wrote:
Thomas Koch wrote:
Thomas Koch wrote:
There's a german association, Linux user in der Kirche[1] (Linux user
in the church), which plans to organize a booth on the next big meeting
of the german church in 2010.
They aim is to promote the usage of linux in
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:52:37AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
It seems to me that these consulting businesses would be good
addresses to ask for sponsorship of a Debian/GNU/Linux booth if there
is no way getting a free booth for a charitable association such as
the Debian Project or the
Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009 à 00:57 +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit :
1 New hardware / equipment
a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like […]
Full ack. Hardware is not that expensive, lack of hardware should not
hold back any of our development.
b Maintainers of big
Steve McIntyre wrote:
1 New hardware / equipment
a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like, along
with a set of donated machines that need configuring and/or
shipping. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the individual
requests here look reasonable then they
2009-09-10, Steve McIntyre:
Hi folks,
Suggestions and comments from others
[...]
6 Fund other related projects
a Debian Edu. Clearly good for us to do - heavily linked with
Debian.
I think that this could be really interesting.
On Thursday 10 September 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
5 Pay people to do stuff we don't/can't/won't:
g website redesign and restructuring
This is something we seem unable to make any progress at and that
is very much overdue. Especially the restructuring part would
Steve McIntyre lea...@debian.org writes:
4 Marketing stuff:
a box(es) of equipment to take to stands at various shows and
expos. Might be useful, but could be expensive. Where do we store
it/them? Who organises shipping?
I think this is something which we should pursue. I
On 2009-09-10, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote:
On Thursday 10 September 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
5 Pay people to do stuff we don't/can't/won't:
g website redesign and restructuring
This is something we seem unable to make any progress at and that
is very much
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