Re: Kde gone

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:09:36PM -0500, charlie derr wrote: > Thanks for that. > > I always (until now) have done apt-get -u upgrade (which explicitly > tells what is about to be done and offers a chance to abort). Aptitude also provides a nice an

Re: Kde gone

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:02:16PM -0500, Dan Weikert wrote: > While monitoring the progress of the apt-get install xearth I > saw some disturbing lines indicating kde was being removed along with > most of the kde support/program packages. Oops! Sho

Re: downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:28:03PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Do many people use unstable for production systems? How many hobbyists that are used to what unstable can throw at them? Quite a few. How many sane people who have jobs riding on it

Fw: Exim4 Sender Address Rewriting

2004-02-15 Thread Peter A. Cole
Hi again all, Sorry if I'm being impatient, but this is frustrating me no end. The original post is below, and even if someone can just point me to some easier reading info than the Exim specification then that would be most welcome. Thanks, Pete - Original Message - From: "Peter A. Co

Re: downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:02:34PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes, but I want to install an unstable package on stable > debian. No, you don't. You're holding a gun to your head with the safety on and trying to pull the trigger, and asking me

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:15:42PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > That's even weirder. Linux takes corporate computing by storm. How? > By abandoning the low end server market to Mickeysoft and going for > the desktop market instead. IBM isn't abandonin

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:31:06PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: > I think it is probably more than 10% if you include Outlook. Outlook > is a must-have for organizations that are already heavily invested in > Exchange servers. Isn't koffice/kmail/kn

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:45:56PM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > Personally, I think the time and money would be better spent improving > OpenOffice.org so it bridges that last 10% gap between it and MS Office. OpenOffice.org is Sun's pet project. Howev

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 07:15:28PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > But provided by IBM, not MS, right? (At least, that's what I recall > from the slashdot summary ... I confess to not reading the details.) Kind of. It's still MS Office, from Micro

Re: Rejecting viruses the Right Way[tm]

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:05:45PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > I don't like it either, Paul, but it's a losing battle. Not if postmasters do their job the right way instead of blacklisting millions of innocents. That's why spam fighters have some

mailto in mozilla-firebird

2004-02-15 Thread Micha Feigin
Is it possible to tell mozilla-firebird how to handle mailto links? I am using exim4 + mutt for mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: data recovery / ext3 partition

2004-02-15 Thread Vineet Kumar
* ville virtanen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040206 09:06]: > Hello, > > I tried to install Windows ME to a hard drive with an existing Debian > system. During the install the system insisted on formatting drive > "C", and since I had created an extra primary partition marked > bootable to be "C" under L

Re: Linux Compatibility Issue

2004-02-15 Thread Katipo
Hello Abdul, On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:49:25 -0500 (EST) Abdul Latip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "What are you really trying to do?" > > Thank you for the question! My intention is to understand > myself what the problem is, so that I can answer questions > from the users. > > Qouted from a "

Re: Linux Compatibility Issue

2004-02-15 Thread Abdul Latip
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, David Z Maze wrote: > Abdul Latip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Once in a while, users are asking me about the compatibilty problem of >> Linux. They reasoning that M$Office can be installed anywhere like >> Win98, WinME, WinNT, et. al. Whereas it is hard to install a >> RedH

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Richard Hoskins: > > So we're looking at IBM pitching Linux desktops at organizations > using Windows servers. Who would have thunk? That's even weirder. Linux takes corporate computing by storm. How? By abandoning the low end server market to Mickeysoft and going for the desktop

Re: Disable plugins in Mozilla?

2004-02-15 Thread Keith Willoughby
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: > Is it possible to disable a specific plugin (like Flash) in Mozilla > without physically removing the files from the plugins directory (or > renaming them)? If you only have a problem with Flash, then Flash Click To View is ideal http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozil

Re: Rejecting viruses the Right Way[tm]

2004-02-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 11:03:21PM -0800, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:41:11PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > The problem of _not_ enforcing use of smart hosts is that you've now got > > viral spew from many point sources rather than a single point (or sma

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Richard Hoskins
Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Personally, I think the time and money would be better spent > improving OpenOffice.org so it bridges that last 10% gap between it > and MS Office. I think it is probably more than 10% if you include Outlook. Outlook is a must-have for organizations that a

Re: cyrus21: password and login shell?

2004-02-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004, Bengt Thure'e wrote: > I have just installed and started to verify my Sarge installation, > and to my surprise I found (or rather "John" did) that cyrus has a > password and seems to be a login account. > > Seems to be the same in both Sarge as well as in Woody. >From the pa

Re: Kde gone

2004-02-15 Thread charlie derr
Rick Pasotto wrote: On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:02:16PM -0500, Dan Weikert wrote: Any suggestions from those more experienced? I'll be happy to provide any further information but don't be shy about giving explicit instructions. :) After updating I always use the '-s' option to apt-get first bef

Re: Skolinux; unable to change resolv.conf

2004-02-15 Thread Adam Aube
On Sunday 15 February 2004 08:41 pm, Kent Tenney wrote: > I just installed Skolelinux, standalone profile Since this list is for Debian GNU/Linux, not Skolelinux, I suggest you check the support page for Skolelinux http://www.skolelinux.no/index.php?menyID=10 and see what help you can find ther

Re: Debian's Perl installation

2004-02-15 Thread Adam Aube
On Sunday 15 February 2004 09:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [ I already sent this in many hours ago, but for some reason it hasn't > been posted to the list, so I'm sending it in again. My apologies > for any repeats. ] Rest assured it did make it to the list: http://lists.debian.org/deb

Re: Kde gone

2004-02-15 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:02:16PM -0500, Dan Weikert wrote: > > Any suggestions from those more experienced? I'll be happy to provide > any further information but don't be shy about giving explicit > instructions. :) After updating I always use the '-s' option to apt-get first before actually d

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Adam Aube
On Sunday 15 February 2004 09:15 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-02-16, Christian Schnobrich penned: > > [btw, for all that didn't follow the link: it says there's to be a > > Microsoft Office for Linux] > > But provided by IBM, not MS, right? (At least, that's what I recall > from the slas

Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-15 Thread Nano Nano
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 01:07:54AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: > All correct, what a plum I am. Except for this. I asked not to be CC'd. > You CC'd me. The fact that your MUA uses Mail-Followup-To: does not remove > your obligation to check that the To: field of an email that you send > is corr

Re: Kde gone

2004-02-15 Thread Adam Aube
On Sunday 15 February 2004 09:02 pm, Dan Weikert wrote: > I recently started exploring Debian. I installed Woody and after a day > or so upgraded to Sarge. > While monitoring the progress of the apt-get install xearth I > saw some disturbing lines indicating kde was being removed The archives (

Debian's Perl installation

2004-02-15 Thread kynn
[ I already sent this in many hours ago, but for some reason it hasn't been posted to the list, so I'm sending it in again. My apologies for any repeats. ] Here are a couple of posts that I recently found while reading Usenet news. I have myself run into similar problems/questions as the

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-02-16, Christian Schnobrich penned: > On Son, 2004-02-15 at 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Yeah, no kidding. I've gone and posted that up on my >> website...that's just bizarre. > > [btw, for all that didn't follow the link: it says there's to be a > Microsoft Office for Linux] But provi

Re: Kde gone

2004-02-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:02:16PM -0500, Dan Weikert wrote: > I recently started exploring Debian. I installed Woody and after a day > or so upgraded to Sarge. While exploring the available packages I > eventually upgraded to kernel 2.4.24 and shortly after that installed > xearth. While monitorin

Re: Kde gone

2004-02-15 Thread Chris
On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 03:02, Dan Weikert wrote: > Greetings, > > I recently started exploring Debian. I installed Woody and after a day > or so upgraded to Sarge. > . If I do an > apt-get install kde now, I get the following errors- > - > # apt-get install kde > Rea

Skolinux; unable to change resolv.conf

2004-02-15 Thread Kent Tenney
Howdy, I just installed Skolelinux, standalone profile, and the nameserver values in /etc/resolv.conf are wrong. I run # ifdown --all Edit /etc/resolv.conf then run # ifup --all /etc/resolv.conf has the same wrong values as before editing. What else do I need to do? Thanks in advance for any he

Kde gone

2004-02-15 Thread Dan Weikert
Greetings, I recently started exploring Debian. I installed Woody and after a day or so upgraded to Sarge. While exploring the available packages I eventually upgraded to kernel 2.4.24 and shortly after that installed xearth. While monitoring the progress of the apt-get install xearth I saw some d

Re: kernel upgrade and LVM

2004-02-15 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:19:18 +, wattoo wrote: > I used lvmcreate_initrd to build an initrd with LVM support. I never got this to work. I just compiled my own kernel with built-in LVM (not a module). And RAID too. -- Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti Dutra +55 (11

Re: apache won't start although no errors

2004-02-15 Thread Brian
Hi, man strace ? I have the same problem with apache. What do I look for in the strace? - Here is the tail end of the output: If I run "sudo strace /etc/init.d/apache restart", I get: ... waitpid(-1, Processing config directory: /etc/apache/conf.d [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s

Re: Gnus not including text in follow-up

2004-02-15 Thread Richard Hoskins
Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Have been trying to use Gnus. > > When trying to F (follow up quoting message), I get: > > run-hooks: Symbol's function definition is void: turn-on-mime-edit > > Checked my .emacs.el etc, but I really have no id

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Christian Schnobrich
On Son, 2004-02-15 at 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote: > Yeah, no kidding. I've gone and posted that up on my website...that's > just bizarre. [btw, for all that didn't follow the link: it says there's to be a Microsoft Office for Linux] Hmmm. Reminds me of something I read years ago: if Linux gains

Re[2]: [Repost] F-prot update cron script fails

2004-02-15 Thread Edward J. Shornock
Oops...I was wrong # cat /etc/cron.d/f-prot-installer # Regular cron jobs for the f-prot-installer package # # automatically update the f-prot(tm) virus signature definitions # (.DEF files) with the 'check-updates' bash script. # NOTE: Don't use this script in combination with mailscanner. U

Re: kernel upgrade and LVM

2004-02-15 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 15 February 2004 02:19 pm, wattoo wrote: > Hello, > > I am running a Debian unstable with kernel 2.4.18 and LVM support. > > # df -h > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/vgos/root248M 150M 86M 64% / > /d

[VIRGE] VIRUS NOTIFICATION

2004-02-15 Thread Virge
# VIRUS NOTIFICATION # A message you sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] contains a virus or a worm, and was not delivered. -- DATE : Sun, 1 Feb 2004 09:30:50 +1200 SUBJECT: (UNKNOWN) VIRUS : WORM_MYDOOM.A -- It is possible your computer is infected witho

Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-15 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:35:12AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:42:56PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: > > Please don't CC me. It's in my sig and it's list policy. > > It's your fault. Your mail includes the header: > > Mail-Followup-To: Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Re: cdparanoia & a song in negative space

2004-02-15 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: P> On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:22:53PM +, i'll teach you to turn away. wr >> yeah, ripping the whole cd just doesn't see the negative space. i P> ...so an audio CD player does play it OK? I've never encountered this P> problem myself, so don't know about

Re: cdparanoia & a song in negative space

2004-02-15 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DTG> ...and then i'll teach you to turn away. said... DTG> % yeah, ripping the whole cd just doesn't see the negative space DTG> Strange indeed. Like Jan, I'm interested in your results (my little DTG> collection comes to about 4700 tracks from a few over

Re: downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread lsrwein
Chris writes: On Sun, 2004-02-15 at 22:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Osamu Aoki writes: > Hi, > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:02:34PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Paul Johnson writes: >> >> >On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:00:34PM -0600, >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>Is there an easie

Re: apt-proxy without inetd

2004-02-15 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Rob Weir] > apt-proxy is a shell script, and thus cannot run as a daemon. Well, you could hack something together with netcat, but that has about as much point as using a screwdriver as a chisel. inetd is the right tool for the job. Peter signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: logrotate: three questions

2004-02-15 Thread Joey Hess
Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Is this really a bug, or just a bad/pointless idea? I mean, it asked me > if I should lock these tools down, and I said yes. I can always loosen > up permissions on a case by case basis. Unless bastille closes down access to programs like perl, python, gcc, the shell,

Disable plugins in Mozilla?

2004-02-15 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Is it possible to disable a specific plugin (like Flash) in Mozilla without physically removing the files from the plugins directory (or renaming them)? -- Joel Konkle-Parker Webmaster [Ballsome.com] E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone [662-518-1636] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Real Time Clock won't boot

2004-02-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 10:11:02 -0800, Michael West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > When I compile the Real Time Clock into my kernel I cannot > complete the boot process and login. This is true in single user > mode. Strangly, most of the boot process co

kernel upgrade and LVM

2004-02-15 Thread wattoo
Hello, I am running a Debian unstable with kernel 2.4.18 and LVM support. # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/vgos/root248M 150M 86M 64% / /dev/vgos/usr 248M 135M 101M 58% /usr /dev/vgos/tmp 124M 14K 118M 1% /tmp /dev/vgos/var

Re: Quasi-(un)deletion question

2004-02-15 Thread Martin Dickopp
Tim Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> /proc/PID/fd seems to work just fine; see transcript below. > > OMG. That does work. I didn't try it because the file looks like a symlink > in 'ls' -- a similar process with symlinks on a normal filesystem will > produce different results: Yes, /proc is q

Re: Debian testing kernel for use with pwcx.o (webcam) module.

2004-02-15 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 07:30:04PM +, Adam Funk wrote: > I have a Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro and a Debian sarge system on an > Athlon 1100 with the 2.4.23-1-386 kernel. I've tried to use the pwcx > module from http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ by copying > pwcx-8.4/2.4.23/gcc-3.2/pwcx.o > to /l

Re: k3b: unable to find cdrecord executable

2004-02-15 Thread Chris
On Sun, 2004-02-15 at 11:56, Midnight wrote: > I've installed k3b on my machine and every time I start k3b > up, it gives me an error message: "unable to find cdrecord > executable". > > I undoubtedly have cdrecord installed on my machine. > ls -al cdrecr* in /usr/bin provides the following ou

Re: Quasi-(un)deletion question

2004-02-15 Thread Tim Otten
> /proc/PID/fd seems to work just fine; see transcript below. OMG. That does work. I didn't try it because the file looks like a symlink in 'ls' -- a similar process with symlinks on a normal filesystem will produce different results: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ echo This is a test > t.txt [EMAIL PRO

Re: downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:02:34PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In collecting all the needed .debs it takes some time and patience > in order to determine which ones should be installed first. > Just wondered if there was an easier way. The lazy way is to stick 'em all in a directory and the

Re: cdparanoia & a song in negative space

2004-02-15 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:22:53PM +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > yeah, ripping the whole cd just doesn't see the negative space. i > don't even know how they recorded this, let alone how i can get it off > (digitally - i can always record it to cassette & take that to .wav, h

Re: downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread Chris
On Sun, 2004-02-15 at 22:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Osamu Aoki writes: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:02:34PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Paul Johnson writes: > >> > >> >On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:00:34PM -0600, > >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >>Is there an ea

Re: downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:28:03PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It may be better to completely move to unstable. > Do many people use unstable for production systems? For my web server, I run Woody (Stable) and use an occasional file from backports.org if I need something more current. -- C

Re: Debian testing kernel for use with pwcx.o (webcam) module.

2004-02-15 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 07:30:04PM +, Adam Funk wrote: > I have a Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro and a Debian sarge system on an > Athlon 1100 with the 2.4.23-1-386 kernel. I've tried to use the pwcx > module from http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ by copying > pwcx-8.4/2.4.23/gcc-3.2/pwcx.o > to /l

Re: Debian and Gigabyte m/b GA-6BXDU

2004-02-15 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:31:24PM +1100, Phillipus Gunawan wrote: > Hi there, > > I had a gigabyte motherboard, GA-6BXDU - rev1.3, dual PIII 500 with scsi > 50pin and 80pin on board. To boot from cd-rom, this m/b only support > cd-rom boot via scsi, it wont allow me to boot ide cd-rom, that is wh

Re: downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread lsrwein
Osamu Aoki writes: Hi, On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:02:34PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Johnson writes: >On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:00:34PM -0600, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Is there an easier way to go about collecting dependencies? > >Use apt instead of trying to do it by hand. S

Gnus not including text in follow-up

2004-02-15 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Have been trying to use Gnus. When trying to F (follow up quoting message), I get: run-hooks: Symbol's function definition is void: turn-on-mime-edit Checked my .emacs.el etc, but I really have no idea about what to look for or where. Any tips welcome. -- Lean

Re: logrotate: three questions

2004-02-15 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-02-15, Colin Watson penned: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:20:26PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> On 2004-02-15, Joey Hess penned: >> > That would be a violation of debian policy, and is not the case on >> > any of my systems. >> > >> > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 33K Oct 9 2

Re: recommended reading?

2004-02-15 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Rob Weir wrote (2004-02-15 07:44): >On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:16:54AM +0100, Thorsten Haude said >> * s. keeling wrote (2004-02-09 06:44): >> >Just because it doesn't mention kde 3.x doesn't mean it's obsolete. >> >> The book is 20 years old! There wasn't even an X Window to speak of! > >I

Re: cdparanoia & a song in negative space

2004-02-15 Thread David T-G
crank -- ...and then i'll teach you to turn away. said... % ... % yeah, ripping the whole cd just doesn't see the negative space. i % don't even know how they recorded this, let alone how i can get it off Strange indeed. Like Jan, I'm interested in your results (my little collection com

Re: [Repost] F-prot update cron script fails

2004-02-15 Thread Edward J. Shornock
Hello VSJ, Wednesday, February 11, 2004, 3:38:58 PM, you wrote: V> Unfortunately, this doesn't work, I get an e-mail twice a day with the V> following subject: V> "Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> root if [ -x /usr/lib/f-prot/tools/check-updates ]; V> then /usr/lib/f-prot/tools/check-updates -cron -quie

Re: Building packages from source with my options

2004-02-15 Thread dana sibera
On 16/02/2004, at 6:32 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 06:19:55AM +1100, dana sibera wrote: Is there some central way in debian to build source packages with certain compiler options forced on? Try pentium-builder. Despite the name, it can be used for other processors too. This isn

Re: downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:02:34PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Paul Johnson writes: > > >On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:00:34PM -0600, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Is there an easier way to go about collecting dependencies? > > > >Use apt instead of trying to do it by hand. Slightly

Re: logrotate: three questions

2004-02-15 Thread David Clymer
On Sun, 2004-02-15 at 11:16, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Hi all! I've looked in the logrotate man page, /usr/share/doc/logrotate > (not much there), and google, and I can't seem to find the answer to > these questions: > > 1) I'd like to have the option of never deleting the backups for certain >

Re: downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread lsrwein
Paul Johnson writes: On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:00:34PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easier way to go about collecting dependencies? Use apt instead of trying to do it by hand. *** Yes, but I want to install an unstable package on stable de

Re: Debian on 640KB or RAM?

2004-02-15 Thread Steven Leach
On Feb 15, 2004, at 1:39 PM, John Hasler wrote: Pigeon writes: I think the 286 extended the concept of far pointers somehow to extend the addressing range to 16 megs and make it a bit more like a proper MMU, but you were still limited to 64k blocks. Sort of. The 286 had a truly brain-damaged seg

Re: Ext3 journaling errors

2004-02-15 Thread GCS
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 06:16:07AM +, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Feb 14 00:23:12 herby kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device > Feb 14 00:23:12 herby kernel: hda4: rw=0, want=1940101904, limit=24418800 > Feb 14 00:23:12 herby kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device >

Re: logrotate: three questions

2004-02-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:20:26PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-02-15, Joey Hess penned: > > That would be a violation of debian policy, and is not the case on any > > of my systems. > > > > -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 33K Oct 9 2002 > > /usr/sbin/logrotate* > > Well, Bas

Re: cdparanoia & a song in negative space

2004-02-15 Thread Jan Minar
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:22:53PM +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > yeah, ripping the whole cd just doesn't see the negative space. i > don't even know how they recorded this, let alone how i can get it off They probably used a microphone? Seriously, this might be yet another

Re: logrotate: three questions

2004-02-15 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-02-15, Joey Hess penned: > > Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> 3) Permissions. The logrotate app is only executable by root on my >> box. I'm trying to imagine the situation in which giving a normal >> user access to logrotate would hurt anything, as long as logs have >> appropriate permissions

Re: Quasi-(un)deletion question

2004-02-15 Thread Jan Minar
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:03:06PM -0500, Tim Otten wrote: > file (because the filesystem was mounted, and the man page doesn't say > whether it's safe to edit a live filesystem), but the 'dump' command worked > fine in a test that I just did. It's not. You did it the most right way. -- Jan Min

Re: downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:00:34PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there an easier way to go about collecting dependencies? Use apt instead of trying to do it by hand. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` prou

Re: Quasi-(un)deletion question

2004-02-15 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:11:18PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > However, that's just standard *nix filesystem behaviour. You can rm > 'til the cows come home, but as long as one symlink to the data > remains, the data remains as well. Hard link not symlink :) Bijan -- Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROT

Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-15 Thread Nano Nano
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:42:56PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: > Please don't CC me. It's in my sig and it's list policy. It's your fault. Your mail includes the header: Mail-Followup-To: Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] which makes Mutt's list-reply function add

Re: Building packages from source with my options

2004-02-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 06:19:55AM +1100, dana sibera wrote: > Is there some central way in debian to build source packages with > certain compiler options forced on? Try pentium-builder. Despite the name, it can be used for other processors too. This isn't really a general way to build source p

Re: Something horribly broken in Sid's debconf

2004-02-15 Thread Nano Nano
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:38:23AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:23:56AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > > I just noticed that in debconf questions I can't arrow up/down, but I > > can tab and enter. I tried rolling back to the previous version of > > debconf but that didn't

Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-15 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 05:17:39PM +0100, Danny wrote: > Hi Antony, > > you are the man, which saved me! Install with the help of your webpage was > easy and fast and the installer detected my harddisk (no raid). But now > after reboot, I can't boot. Grub crashes and showed only the Grub prompt at

Re: Quasi-(un)deletion question

2004-02-15 Thread Tim Otten
> (1) debugfs(8) or equivalent Ah! debugfs looks perfect. I probably couldn't have added an entry for the file (because the filesystem was mounted, and the man page doesn't say whether it's safe to edit a live filesystem), but the 'dump' command worked fine in a test that I just did. > (2) inject

Building packages from source with my options

2004-02-15 Thread dana sibera
Is there some central way in debian to build source packages with certain compiler options forced on? I have a few PPC machines here, PPC601 to be precise, and those CPUs have quite a few instructions left over as part of the POWER chips that they derived from; instructions that no other PPC ch

downloading dependency files

2004-02-15 Thread lsrwein
I've recently installed spamassassin on debian stable using a backport. spamassassin_2.63-0.backports.org.1_all.deb. Got the following dependency errors: *** dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of spamassassin: spamassassin depends on libhtml-parser-

Re: Quasi-(un)deletion question

2004-02-15 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Martin Dickopp: > Tim Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The other day, I did something really stupid. I started a download with > > BitTorrent, and, half-way through, deleted the file it was downloading. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ > echo This is a test. > t.txt > [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: logrotate: three questions

2004-02-15 Thread Joey Hess
Monique Y. Herman wrote: > 3) Permissions. The logrotate app is only executable by root on my box. > I'm trying to imagine the situation in which giving a normal user access > to logrotate would hurt anything, as long as logs have appropriate > permissions. Could the paranoid among us speak up an

Re: Quasi-(un)deletion question

2004-02-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:41:41AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:20:55AM -0500, Tim Otten wrote: > > The other day, I did something really stupid. I started a download with > > BitTorrent, and, half-way through, deleted the file it was downloading. > > > Is it possible to

Re: Real Time Clock won't boot

2004-02-15 Thread John Hasler
> The last message to the screen is "WARNING: no network interfaces found" > which is what I get when mounting samba shares I am mounting at boot. This means that the _next_ service is hanging. Sounds like a hwclock problem. Try upgrading util-linux. If that fixes it file a bug. -- John Hasler

Re: Quasi-(un)deletion question

2004-02-15 Thread Martin Dickopp
Tim Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The other day, I did something really stupid. I started a download with > BitTorrent, and, half-way through, deleted the file it was downloading. > > The file still existed because the torrent client had it open. I could use > 'lsof' to get an inode number -

Re: cdparanoia & a song in negative space

2004-02-15 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Jan Minar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JM> On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 06:39:56AM +, i'll teach you to turn away. >> "6[-1:30]-6[-0:02]". does anyone know how i can trick cdparanoia to do >> this, or know of another program/bit of code that would comply? thanks. JM> File a bugreport. heh. t

Re: How to install Debian with Promise FastTrak 376 chip onboard?

2004-02-15 Thread Antony Gelberg
Please don't CC me. It's in my sig and it's list policy. On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 09:21:40PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:24:28AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: > > I came in a bit late here. Have a look on my site - > > http://www.antgel.co.uk/compsci/linux/promise_raid.sht

Re: Quasi-(un)deletion question

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:20:55AM -0500, Tim Otten wrote: > The other day, I did something really stupid. I started a download with > BitTorrent, and, half-way through, deleted the file it was downloading. > Is it possible to access the file using a

Re: Debian on 640KB or RAM?

2004-02-15 Thread John Hasler
Pigeon writes: > I think the 286 extended the concept of far pointers somehow to extend > the addressing range to 16 megs and make it a bit more like a proper MMU, > but you were still limited to 64k blocks. Sort of. The 286 had a truly brain-damaged segmentation scheme. It did run protected-mod

Re: Something horribly broken in Sid's debconf

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 03:23:56AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > I just noticed that in debconf questions I can't arrow up/down, but I > can tab and enter. I tried rolling back to the previous version of > debconf but that didn't fix it. This repros on

Re: ADSL ISP in UK

2004-02-15 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:31:53PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (15/02/04 00:28), Pigeon wrote: > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > From: Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 00:28:26 + > > Subject: Re: ADSL ISP in UK > > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 03:12:09PM +, Clive Menzi

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:21:30AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > http://infoworld.com/article/04/02/13/HNlinuxoffice_1.html > > That's a wierd story. Yeah, no kidding. I've gone and posted that up on my website...that's just bizarre. http://ursine.ca/

Real Time Clock won't boot

2004-02-15 Thread Michael West
When I compile the Real Time Clock into my kernel I cannot complete the boot process and login. This is true in single user mode. Strangly, most of the boot process completes. The hang appears to be in the /etc/rcS.d scripts. The last message to the screen is "WARNING: n

Re: Rejecting viruses the Right Way[tm]

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:48:02AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Because the large upstream that can't do a decent job of running a > smarthost also can't do a decent job of policing their network or shutting > down spammers on their network. The b

Re: jabber server howto

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 08:52:43AM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > I want you to know Paul that I appreciate your help. For example, I > didn't know about this site for the jargon. That is already a good new > thing. Thanks. No problem, glad to help

Re: aol art files:

2004-02-15 Thread John Hasler
Mkrista8765 writes: > can you please remove all art files for me please it is really slowing my > computer down or how do i find the art files and delete them? Thank you find / -name '*.art' -exec rm \{\} \; -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To U

Re: Debian on 640KB or RAM?

2004-02-15 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 06:40:06AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 09:48:58PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Mike writes: > > > I don't think the 80286 has a memory management unit > > > > It does, but the architecture is different. A 286 won't run Linux. > > Are you sure? I

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