Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Weaver
On Sat, September 15, 2012 10:12 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 15 sep 12, 21:20:07, Weaver wrote: >> >> On Sat, September 15, 2012 8:52 pm, Celejar wrote: >> > >> > Why not install unstable directly? >> >> I used to, but I haven't been able to access that in the later duscs. >> >> Either that

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 sep 12, 21:20:07, Weaver wrote: > > On Sat, September 15, 2012 8:52 pm, Celejar wrote: > > > > Why not install unstable directly? > > I used to, but I haven't been able to access that in the later duscs. > > Either that, or I have forgotten where to access it. > I remember it wasn't al

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 16 sep 12, 02:12:28, lee wrote: > > Then tell them about them and give them a working system before and > during the installation so that they can read the documentation at their > leisure. I think there is a non-zero amount of users that will not bother to read any documentation, even if

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 sep 12, 14:20:16, Weaver wrote: > > I remember installing Fluxbox for the first time, and thinking I had blown > it until I accidentally right clicked on the screen. Been there, done that :) Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.a

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Frank McCormick writes: > On 15/09/12 06:30 PM, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> trying out chromium, I have found that both seamonkey and chromium are >> able to play arbitrary videos found on youtube. I used to have > > Chrome has built-in Flash - it's called PepperFlash so it does not > depend on ex

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Peter Viskup writes: > there is something like HTML5 already out. > Try to have a look on http://www.youtube.com/html5 and then search for > HTML5 support for your favorite browser and you will get an answer. Hmmm. They are saying I'm participating in a test and seamonkey supports Video-Tag and

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Bob Proulx writes: > lee wrote: >> Bob Proulx writes: >> > For email I use the 'mutt' mail user agent. It is extremely fast. It >> > ... >> >> I totally agree :) And you're definitely going to love gnus! I've used >> mutt for 15 years or so and never could find anything better --- until I >

Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets (SOLVED SORT OF)

2012-09-15 Thread Gary Roach
On 09/14/2012 09:19 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:20:30 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 09/13/2012 08:58 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) Next time, instead giving your money to Epson that shows no interest in Linux, consider twice another alternatives (HP has a nice job her

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Weaver
On Sat, September 15, 2012 8:52 pm, Celejar wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:20:16 -0700 > "Weaver" wrote: > > ... > >> I don't worry, as I generally install, then upgrade two or three >> distributions to get to unstable. > > Why not install unstable directly? I used to, but I haven't been able t

Re: Re: Preseed for Wheezy - Multi-disk Alternative

2012-09-15 Thread ray
> (...) Where did you get that impression? :-? The 'instructions' inside the installer state one disk. The examples on this website state one disk. The threads in this mail list state one disk.I have not experience but with out an example, I am not sure how to experiment. > I think preseeding sh

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:20:16 -0700 "Weaver" wrote: ... > I don't worry, as I genearally install, then upgrade two or three > distributions to get to unstable. Why not install unstable directly? Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Frank McCormick wrote: > lee wrote: > >trying out chromium, I have found that both seamonkey and chromium are > >able to play arbitrary videos found on youtube. I used to have > >libflashplayer.so in the ~/.mozilla/plugins directory which used to play > >such videos. I have removed it for testing

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread lee
"Weaver" writes: > On Sat, September 15, 2012 11:32 am, lee wrote: >> "Weaver" writes: > > Hello Lee, > > I look forward, breath abate, to constructive criticism. > >> >>> Computed Partitions. >>> >>> / = 10 GB – Bootable ext3 – I would probably go for a little more than >>>

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread lee
"Weaver" writes: > What if you have a more mature newbie that is starting his own graphics > business and is trying to keep overheads down by learning GIMP, etc. > Graphics files take up a lot of space. > Potential must be allowed for. Then you must allow for a lot more swap space. Perhaps you

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Dmitriy Matrosov writes: > On 09/15/12 18:23, lee wrote: >> >> Can't we have a boot manager which is independent of the installed OSs? >> Grub kinda does its own thing already, and if there was something like a >> standardised API through which OSs could tell the boot manager how they >> are to b

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread lee
"Weaver" writes: > On Sat, September 15, 2012 1:52 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Sb, 15 sep 12, 13:18:38, Weaver wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, September 15, 2012 4:51 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> > >>> > What is a hostname ;)? I like to be able to name the host, but perhaps >>> > this should move to th

Re: Storage server

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > But in the future when when Debian Jessie is being released I am going > > to be reading then on the mailing list about how old and bad Linux 3.2 > > is and how it should not be used because it is too old. > > So what you're saying here is that Jessie s

Re: ACPID stuck in an endless loop - prevents login

2012-09-15 Thread Chris Capon
On 2012-09-14 13:28, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:48:11 -0400, Chris Capon wrote: On 2012-09-13 13:07, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:54:20 -0400, Chris Capon wrote: After a recent Debian update, I've been unable to log in to my Debian/Linux server using the console and GDM

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
lee wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > For email I use the 'mutt' mail user agent. It is extremely fast. It > > ... > > I totally agree :) And you're definitely going to love gnus! I've used > mutt for 15 years or so and never could find anything better --- until I > tried gnus. Gnus is like th

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 01:15 +0200, Peter Viskup wrote: > there is something like HTML5 already out. > Try to have a look on http://www.youtube.com/html5 and then search for > HTML5 support for your favorite browser and you will get an answer. AFAIK HTML5 draft doesn't replace flash completely. It

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-15 Thread Peter Viskup
On 09/16/2012 12:30 AM, lee wrote: Hi, trying out chromium, I have found that both seamonkey and chromium are able to play arbitrary videos found on youtube. I used to have libflashplayer.so in the ~/.mozilla/plugins directory which used to play such videos. I have removed it for testing and b

Re: Problematic install - cannot find mirror

2012-09-15 Thread Brian
On Sat 15 Sep 2012 at 23:28:49 +0100, Lisi wrote: > I am getting a long list of error messages in pairs. I have copied one pair, > but am not sure in which order they should go, so I may have copied the > second of one pair and the first of the next. > > > Sept 15 21:15:36 choose-mirror[31417

Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-15 Thread Frank McCormick
On 15/09/12 06:30 PM, lee wrote: Hi, trying out chromium, I have found that both seamonkey and chromium are able to play arbitrary videos found on youtube. I used to have libflashplayer.so in the ~/.mozilla/plugins directory which used to play such videos. I have removed it for testing and bot

Re: Removing deb-multimedia pkgs w/o removing everything

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Ed Jabbour writes: > I'd like to remove packages gotten from deb-multimedia and replace > some from the Debian repos. However, removing them will also remove a > bunch of libs and kde progs. E.g., apt-get remove libavcodec53 > yields: > > 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 190 to remove and 1 no

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > Lee, one of my argumentation points was based precisely in this premise > ("untechie users do not install their OSes¹") so if you want to discuss a > different thing based on your own experience because my user-case does > not match with yours, fine... you can open a new thr

What is playing videos in web browsers?

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Hi, trying out chromium, I have found that both seamonkey and chromium are able to play arbitrary videos found on youtube. I used to have libflashplayer.so in the ~/.mozilla/plugins directory which used to play such videos. I have removed it for testing and both browsers still play videos. In t

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > Debian people has done a marvelous work with thteir documentation and > this step (Partitioning) is very well explained there¹ (even it has a > separate Appendix!). > > ¹http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition Just give users a way to find and

Problematic install - cannot find mirror

2012-09-15 Thread Lisi
I won't list the entire saga of a problematic install, because it might not be relevant and I might bury the wood under trees. I am doing a net install. I cannot find a usable mirror. I have tried at least 4 in the UK and 2 in Holland. So I can progress no further. Even if I were to downloa

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-09-15 at 23:52 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > The home gateways, smartphones, tablets, netbooks, laptops and Internet > TVs don't count? After the install, not during the install. Btw. I never got ad-hoc working to connect my iPad. I guess most users don't need ad-hoc, they'll have W

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Weaver
On Sat, September 15, 2012 2:11 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 15 sep 12, 13:35:36, Weaver wrote: >> > >> > Is this a guess or did you actually calculate the installed size? >> >> Neither. >> It's from personal experience. >> The other two installs are this one I'm posting on = 2778 installed

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Weaver
On Sat, September 15, 2012 1:52 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 15 sep 12, 13:18:38, Weaver wrote: >> >> On Sat, September 15, 2012 4:51 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> > >> > What is a hostname ;)? I like to be able to name the host, but perhaps >> > this should move to the experts install. >> >> Y

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Weaver
On Sat, September 15, 2012 11:32 am, lee wrote: > "Weaver" writes: Hello Lee, I look forward, breath abate, to constructive criticism. > >> Computed Partitions. >> >> / = 10 GB – Bootable ext3 – I would probably go for a little more than >> this, because the newbie appetit

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-09-15 at 15:15 +, Camaleón wrote: > IMO, newbies should go for CD or DVD installation disc instead. Full ACK, but the basic issues will be the same. > Come on... if they are currently browsing the web and getting e-mails in > their inbox they should already know what a proxy is.

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-09-15 at 20:32 +0200, lee wrote: > [snip] "What means "bootable"?" [snip] I guess a newbie should know what a hard disk is, if not, than (s)he needs help. But I agree, that a newbie doesn't need to know a about partitions, especially not what extended and logical partitions are. And i

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Weaver
On Sat, September 15, 2012 8:15 am, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:36:36 -0700, Weaver wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> Newbie Installation of Debian Squeeze 6.0.5 i386 Netinstall disc. > > IMO, newbies should go for CD or DVD installation disc instead. If they are going to get all their up

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 sep 12, 13:35:36, Weaver wrote: > > > > Is this a guess or did you actually calculate the installed size? > > Neither. > It's from personal experience. > The other two installs are this one I'm posting on = 2778 installed > packages, which was about 1000 more than that before I pared it

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 sep 12, 13:18:38, Weaver wrote: > > On Sat, September 15, 2012 4:51 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > What is a hostname ;)? I like to be able to name the host, but perhaps > > this should move to the experts install. > > Yes. > If it can't be understood by a newbie installer, it probably

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 sep 12, 18:52:27, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > (That assumes, or course, that /etc is in the root partition and not > separately mounted. But if it was separately mounted, there would be no > way for it to read /etc/fstab in order to find out what to mount for / > etc.) AFAIK /etc is one

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 sep 12, 19:03:28, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:39:29 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > I've solved this by having one grub in the MBR and installing each grub > > in the corresponding first sector of the partition. Not recommended by > > grub, but it works. > > So eac

Re: Storage server

2012-09-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/15/2012 3:36 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > But in the future when when Debian Jessie is being released I am going > to be reading then on the mailing list about how old and bad Linux 3.2 > is and how it should not be used because it is too old. So what you're saying here is that Jessie should be r

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Weaver
On Sat, September 15, 2012 5:37 am, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 15 sep 12, 13:51:50, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Sat, 2012-09-15 at 04:36 -0700, Weaver wrote: >> > Network is detected automagically through dhcp. >> >> Here in the German Ruhrgebiet most people I know use a router, but >> perhaps i

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Weaver
On Sat, September 15, 2012 5:33 am, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 15 sep 12, 04:36:36, Weaver wrote: >> >> Partitioning: Entire disc selected. Separate /home selected. >> In my opinion, the third option of separate /usr, /var, /tmp/ /home here >> are wasted, as anybody that is going for that sor

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Weaver
On Sat, September 15, 2012 4:51 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-09-15 at 04:36 -0700, Weaver wrote: >> Network is detected automagically through dhcp. > > Here in the German Ruhrgebiet most people I know use a router, but > perhaps in other parts of the world, people use other ways to get >

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:25:03 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > UUIDs? What failure mode(s) do you have in mind, because I can't think > of any. When looking at /etc/fstab or grub configuration files: Alas! UUIDs are so unmnemonic! -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lis

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 02:19:11 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:37:28 +0100, Joe wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:42:21 + (UTC) >> Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:25:03 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> >>> > On Vi, 14 sep 12, 17:12:38, Hendrik Boom wrot

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Dmitriy Matrosov
On 09/15/12 22:52, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:40:16 +0400, Dmitriy Matrosov wrote: On 09/15/12 00:42, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:25:03 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 14 sep 12, 17:12:38, Hendrik Boom wrote: Of course, after I've made my copy (with sligh

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:39:29 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 15 sep 12, 13:40:16, Dmitriy Matrosov wrote: >> >> Note, that suggested above approach requires one edited by hand >> grub,cfg along with automatically generated others. > > I've solved this by having one grub in the MBR and inst

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Dmitriy Matrosov
On 09/15/12 18:23, lee wrote: Can't we have a boot manager which is independent of the installed OSs? Grub kinda does its own thing already, and if there was something like a standardised API through which OSs could tell the boot manager how they are to be booted, we would install the boot manag

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 02:19:11 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:37:28 +0100, Joe wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:42:21 + (UTC) >> Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:25:03 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> >>> > On Vi, 14 sep 12, 17:12:38, Hendrik Boom wrot

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:40:16 +0400, Dmitriy Matrosov wrote: > On 09/15/12 00:42, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:25:03 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >>> On Vi, 14 sep 12, 17:12:38, Hendrik Boom wrote: Of course, after I've made my copy (with slight changes to /etc/fs

Re: Removing deb-multimedia pkgs w/o removing everything

2012-09-15 Thread Dmitriy Matrosov
On 09/15/12 21:38, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 15 sep 12, 12:53:46, Ed Jabbour wrote: I'd like to remove packages gotten from deb-multimedia and replace some from the Debian repos. However, removing them will also remove a bunch of libs and kde progs. E.g., apt-get remove libavcodec53 yields:

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread lee
"Weaver" writes: > Computed Partitions. > > / = 10 GB – Bootable ext3 – I would probably go for a little more than > this, because the newbie appetite wants to try out everything! They don't know what packages to select in the first place. > /swap = 4.1 GB which fits nicely

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:06:42 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Hendrik Boom writes: >> >>> Of course, after I've made my copy (with slight changes to /etc/fstab) >>> I have two nearly identical sets of partitions, so it may be tricky to >>> tell them apart. Is grub2 clever enough t

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Bob Proulx writes: > I used FVWM since somewhere in the early 1990's specifically because > it existed as a fully functional window manager that wasn't changing. > It was stable over decades. Think of the Ubuntu Unity transition, the > KDE 3->4 transition, the GNOME 2->3 transition, all very dis

Re: Finding "man page" related information on the WEB

2012-09-15 Thread Richard Owlett
Brian wrote: On Sat 15 Sep 2012 at 09:15:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: info coreutils 'cp invocation' should give you access to the complete manual. How do I find "the complete manual" on the WEB? "info coreutils" in a search engine gave it me as the second hit.

Re: Removing deb-multimedia pkgs w/o removing everything

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 sep 12, 12:53:46, Ed Jabbour wrote: > I'd like to remove packages gotten from deb-multimedia and replace > some from the Debian repos. However, removing them will also remove a > bunch of libs and kde progs. E.g., apt-get remove libavcodec53 > yields: > > 0 upgraded, 1 newly install

Re: Preseed for Wheezy - Multi-disk Alternative

2012-09-15 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:10:52 -0700, ray wrote: > From what I have read, it looks like preseeding is only good for one > disk. So I am looking for alternatives. (...) Where did you get that impression? :-? I think preseeding should be able to work with multiple devices and partitions, you will

Re: Finding "man page" related information on the WEB

2012-09-15 Thread Brian
On Sat 15 Sep 2012 at 09:15:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > info coreutils 'cp invocation' > >should give you access to the complete manual. > > > How do I find "the complete manual" on the WEB? "info coreutils" in a search engine gave it me as the second hit. -- To

Removing deb-multimedia pkgs w/o removing everything

2012-09-15 Thread Ed Jabbour
I'd like to remove packages gotten from deb-multimedia and replace some from the Debian repos. However, removing them will also remove a bunch of libs and kde progs. E.g., apt-get remove libavcodec53 yields: 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 190 to remove and 1 not upgraded. I'm not up to reins

Re: Storage server

2012-09-15 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Meanwhile I am running Sid on my main desktop machine. I upgrade it > daily. I report bugs as I find them. I am doing so specifically so I > can test and find and report bugs. Wow, impressive. I run unstable+experimental, but I think I hav

Re: FN Key to Enable/Disable Touchpad

2012-09-15 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:38:20 -0300, Dr Beco wrote: > Hi there, Hi, but please, avoid using html in your posts :-) > The Touchpad key (FN + F3) that allows to enable/disable toutchpad is > not working in Debian Wheezy. Can you still manually toggle on/off? #disable synclient TouchpadOff=1 #ena

Re: rigmarole about debian and radeon

2012-09-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:04:47 +0200, lavcina wrote: >>So first problem in KDE: HDMI output is not always enabled. In what way >>"breaks"? Please describe what happens, what's what you see. > > > yes that's the case. The kde Monitor configuration tool sometimes does > not recognize the HDMI device

Re: Finding "man page" related information on the WEB

2012-09-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 09:15:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > 1. I'm looking for something similar to a quick reference card one might > have carried in a shirt pocket. Like this? http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#refcard > I want something organized by function rather than alphabetically.

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:36:36 -0700, Weaver wrote: > Greetings, > > Newbie Installation of Debian Squeeze 6.0.5 i386 Netinstall disc. IMO, newbies should go for CD or DVD installation disc instead. > We have a fairly typical, hand-me-down box, P4, 2.8 GH, 2 GB of RAM, > with two Debian installs

Re: ntpd crashes.

2012-09-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:43:04 +0200, Mauro wrote: > I think ntpd crashes are because my server lost time. How can that be? If ntpd daemon is running, the server has to be synced and showing the right time. And in the event the time is too much skewed, ntpd shouldn't crash but left the time unsyn

Re: rigmarole about debian and radeon

2012-09-15 Thread lavcina
first I want to thank you for your help Camaleón >Great, I just wanted to note that a separate "/home" is not required. everyone has his believes and little inconsistencies;) >So first problem in KDE: HDMI output is not always enabled. >In what way "breaks"? Please describe what happens, what's

Re: rigmarole about debian and radeon

2012-09-15 Thread lavcina
first I want to thank you for your help Camaleón >Great, I just wanted to note that a separate "/home" is not required. everyone has his believes and little inconsistencies;) >So first problem in KDE: HDMI output is not always enabled. >In what way "breaks"? Please describe what happens, what's

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:49:18 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: When it comes to an OS, installation process can be considered irrelevant. The real problems starts afterwards. >>> >>> It is irrelevant when you can't install the OS? >> >> No. It is irrelevant to consider the installa

Re: rigmarole about debian and radeon

2012-09-15 Thread lavcina
first I want to thank you for your help Camaleón >Great, I just wanted to note that a separate "/home" is not required. everyone has his believes and little inconsistencies;) >So first problem in KDE: HDMI output is not always enabled. >In what way "breaks"? Please describe what happens, what's

Finding "man page" related information on the WEB

2012-09-15 Thread Richard Owlett
1. I'm looking for something similar to a quick reference card one might have carried in a shirt pocket. I want something organized by function rather than alphabetically. What I found with Google were too verbose and organized alphabetically. 2. At the moment I do not have a functioning Linu

Re: ntpd crashes.

2012-09-15 Thread Mauro
I think ntpd crashes are because my server lost time. I have ntpd in two server, now I've seen that in one of these ntp crashes and the time of the server is 1 hour forward. That's why ntp crashes: server time goes 1 hour forward and ntp can't resynchronize so it crashes. Now I don't know why my se

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 sep 12, 13:51:50, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-09-15 at 04:36 -0700, Weaver wrote: > > Network is detected automagically through dhcp. > > Here in the German Ruhrgebiet most people I know use a router, but > perhaps in other parts of the world, people use other ways to get > connec

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 sep 12, 04:36:36, Weaver wrote: > > Partitioning: Entire disc selected. Separate /home selected. > In my opinion, the third option of separate /usr, /var, /tmp/ /home here > are wasted, as anybody that is going for that sort of option set are > probably going to go for the more fine-gra

Re: Installation

2012-09-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-09-15 at 04:36 -0700, Weaver wrote: > Network is detected automagically through dhcp. Here in the German Ruhrgebiet most people I know use a router, but perhaps in other parts of the world, people use other ways to get connected to the Internet. I for example use PPPoE. > Hostname: D

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 15 sep 12, 13:40:16, Dmitriy Matrosov wrote: > > Note, that suggested above approach requires one edited by hand grub,cfg > along with automatically generated others. I've solved this by having one grub in the MBR and installing each grub in the corresponding first sector of the partition

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Dmitriy Matrosov
On 09/15/12 00:42, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:25:03 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 14 sep 12, 17:12:38, Hendrik Boom wrote: Of course, after I've made my copy (with slight changes to /etc/fstab) I have two nearly identical sets of partitions, so it may be tricky to tell t

Re: ntpd crashes.

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Mauro wrote: > What's the difference of running ntpdate instead ntp with cron? 'ntpdate' jumps the clock. It was intended for use at system boot time when that is okay to do. 'ntpd' is a daemon that runs and makes small clock adjustments as needed to keep time without "jumping" it. The 'ntpdate

Re: Grub2 with multiple Debians

2012-09-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> >> This wprked fine with LILO and GRUB 1, where I was in control of > >> configuratino files and could explicitly specify which root partitions > >> went with which boot partitions/ Why don't you simply get rid of the updater if you need GRUB2? That's what I did, resp. as I've written before, I

Re: [Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Vincent Chen wrote: > Since you've been using Emacs for the past 15 years, I hope you do > realize you can disable all the GUI clutter by setting: > > (menu-bar-mode -1) > (tool-bar-mode -1) > (scroll-bar-mode -1) > > in your ~/.emacs (though I do keep the scroll bar around, easier to > read than

Re: new version of "less" pager

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Austyg wrote: > Thanks to all for good clues. > v451 of "less" is desirable because it adds support for GNU regular > expressions. Hmm... It does say that in the upstream changelog. I am unfamiliar with GNU regular expressions. How are they different from either POSIX regular expressions or PC

Re: FN Key to Enable/Disable Touchpad

2012-09-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 14 sep 12, 22:38:20, Dr Beco wrote: > Hi there, > > The Touchpad key (FN + F3) that allows to enable/disable toutchpad is not > working in Debian Wheezy. > > I have a DELL vostro v131, and KDE. Multimidia FN keys works nice, and > enable/disable wifi and bluetooth also works great. > I'm n

Re: Storage server

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Freitag, 7. September 2012 schrieb Bob Proulx: > > Unfortunately I have some recent FUD concerning xfs. I have had some > > recent small idle xfs filesystems trigger kernel watchdog timer > > ... > > due to these lockups. Squeeze. Everything current. But when idle

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Nelson Green wrote: > Hi Bob, > > You bring up an interesting point. I am running XFCE, and that is because > the limited amount of research I did into window managers told me it was > the simplest "complete" solution, and I did not have time to learn how to > configure a simple system. It all de