Re: Re: how to install amd64 instead i386

2014-11-12 Thread Abdelkader Belahcene
Thanks for reply, I created an ftp server, and used local server, ok, it found the amd, but it searched again for i386. The problem is when I tried to install a software it didn't search for the amd64, but for i386 which is not there. LANG=C apt-get update Hit ftp://localhost jessie InRelease

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-12 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 11/12/2014 02:21 PM, Steve Greig wrote: I have tried your suggestions and found quite a lot of files with the word android or eclipse in them but I can not find the file called eclipse which previously I had which when I clicked on it opened up the eclipse program. Thanks for your help, Steve

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-12 Thread Marty
On 11/12/2014 07:48 PM, Gary Roach wrote: On 11/08/2014 04:19 AM, Keith Peter wrote: Hello Bret and All Mr Hess was writing to the 1000+ Debian developers so the subject line *may* have made instant sense to them, but I take the wider point. We had better explain the 'so long and thanks for al

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:14:34 -0500 Miles Fidelman wrote: One could hope that feedback might have some effect in influencing future decisions. That it has not, or if anything rigidified the Direction of Debian, is in itself, rather useful information when it comes

Re: Shared libraries not found during build

2014-11-12 Thread Joel Roth
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:21:28PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Joel Roth [2014-11-12 10:08 -1000]: > > > > > Hi list, > > > > > >

Re: Shared libraries not found during build - SOLVED

2014-11-12 Thread Joel Roth
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:40:55PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2014-11-12 22:03 +0100, Joel Roth wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 09:35:34PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> On 2014-11-12 21:08 +0100, Joel Roth wrote: > >> > >> > I'm running sid. For the first time in many months, I'm > >>

Re: what's the difference btw. libelf1 and libelfg0?

2014-11-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Christian Groessler wrote: > Ignoring the freebsd version, I'm wondering what's the difference > between libelf1 and libelfg0. They seem to be built from the same > sources, 'apt-get source' retrieves the same files. Two different sonames. The g0 version exists for compatibili

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-12 Thread Gary Roach
On 11/08/2014 04:19 AM, Keith Peter wrote: Hello Bret and All Mr Hess was writing to the 1000+ Debian developers so the subject line *may* have made instant sense to them, but I take the wider point. We had better explain the 'so long and thanks for all the fish' quote as well (looking at your

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Jyri J. Virkki
Once upon a time Tanstaafl wrote: > > Yes, the procedures may have been correctly followed... but apparently > it took something as major as forcing a major change (init system) to > reveal the flaws in the procedures. What really surprised me as I try to piece together what has happened to my dea

what's the difference btw. libelf1 and libelfg0?

2014-11-12 Thread Christian Groessler
The subject says it all. $ apt-cache search libelf libelf-dev - libelf1 development libraries and header files libelf1 - library to read and write ELF files libelf-freebsd-1 - library to read and write ELF files libelf-freebsd-dev - Development files for libelf (FreeBSD version) libelfg0 - an ELF

Re: VPN routing on Sid

2014-11-12 Thread Luis Finotti
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Igor Cicimov wrote: > > On 13/11/2014 6:17 AM, "Luis Finotti" wrote: >> >> I'm having problems connecting to my desktop (running actually >> aptosid, which is virtually simply Debian Sid with a different kernel >> and a few extra tools and customizations). >> >> H

Re: moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-12 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:09:43PM +0100, lee wrote: > Hi, > > what's the best way to move existing logical volumes or a whole volume > group to new disks? > > The target disks cannot be installed at the same time as the source > disks. I will have to make some sort of copy over the network

Re: Installing from Backports

2014-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 nov 14, 18:54:49, Christian Seiler wrote: > > The only 'problem' I remember is that sometimes it takes a while for > updates to actually go on to backports; per backports "policy" usually > the packages have to be in testing already before the backported ones > can be uploaded, which mea

Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 nov 14, 19:55:08, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > > The TC decisions can be overruled by a GR with a simple majority, see > the point 4.1.4 of the Constitution[0] > > [0] https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution#item-4 Actually it currently requires a 2:1 majority, but the TC took special

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 11 nov 14, 20:43:42, Erwan David wrote: > > > Your email makes me me regretting contibuting by translating doc (a long > time ago) otr contibuting bugs... > > This kind opf stance is completely full of contempt agains non coders. > But coders are nothing if nobody uses or test. Might be a

Re: moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-12 Thread Igor Cicimov
On 13/11/2014 8:27 AM, "lee" wrote: > > Hi, > > what's the best way to move existing logical volumes or a whole volume > group to new disks? > > The target disks cannot be installed at the same time as the source > disks. I will have to make some sort of copy over the network to > another machine

Re: moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, lee wrote: > what's the best way to move existing logical volumes or a whole volume > group to new disks? > > The target disks cannot be installed at the same time as the source > disks. I will have to make some sort of copy over the network to > another machine, remove the o

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-12 Thread Steve Greig
I have tried your suggestions and found quite a lot of files with the word android or eclipse in them but I can not find the file called eclipse which previously I had which when I clicked on it opened up the eclipse program. Thanks for your help, Steve On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Andrei POP

Re: Shared libraries not found during build

2014-11-12 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Joel Roth [2014-11-12 10:08 -1000]: > > Hi list, > > > > I'm running sid. For the first time in many months, I'm > trying to build

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 nov 14, 15:43:09, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Sounds good to me, but in reality, since the default *and only* init > system for the last very many years was Sysvinit (this extremely salient > point seems to be completely and totally lost on the systemd > proponents), I think only systemd and sy

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-12 Thread Keith Peter
On 11 November 2014 19:43, Erwan David wrote: > Le 11/11/2014 20:21, Don Armstrong a écrit : >> On Tue, 11 Nov 2014, Erwan David wrote: >>> Le 11/11/2014 18:59, Don Armstrong a écrit : When I (or someone else) asks people to "show us the code", it's really just shorthand for "someone nee

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 nov 14, 12:14:34, Miles Fidelman wrote: > (As someone else > said - hope that LFS extends Wheezy's lifetime. Assuming you actually meant LTS, hope is not sufficient. From https://wiki.debian.org/LTS Companies using Debian who are interested in aiding this effort should help

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 nov 14, 20:56:34, Joel Rees wrote: > > If you installed it under your user's home directory, > > find /home -name android That would require a file and/or directory named exactly 'android'. > Or updatedb (probably as root) and locate? That should work. Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: Shared libraries not found during build

2014-11-12 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-11-12 22:03 +0100, Joel Roth wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 09:35:34PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2014-11-12 21:08 +0100, Joel Roth wrote: >> >> > I'm running sid. For the first time in many months, I'm >> > trying to build a package from source. After compiling I'm >> > getting l

moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-12 Thread lee
Hi, what's the best way to move existing logical volumes or a whole volume group to new disks? The target disks cannot be installed at the same time as the source disks. I will have to make some sort of copy over the network to another machine, remove the old disks, install the new disks and put

Re: Shared libraries not found during build

2014-11-12 Thread Joel Roth
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 09:35:34PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2014-11-12 21:08 +0100, Joel Roth wrote: > > > I'm running sid. For the first time in many months, I'm > > trying to build a package from source. After compiling I'm > > getting library-not-found errors, for example: > > > > apt-g

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 20.10:42 Brian a écrit : > Sounds like, doesn't it? Let's be practical and see how how a screen > in d-i could present an init system choice to a user, particularly > having a new user in mind. For what is worth, the layout of the menu is not the problem here. Cheer

Re: Gigabyte BRIX with (Debian) Linux

2014-11-12 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 05:19:43PM +0200, Catalin Soare wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am thinking of buying one of these devices, and I was wondering if > someone on the list has been successful in installing Debian on any BRIX > device, and if they could share impressions. > > Here is one that I h

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/12/2014 3:10 PM, Brian wrote: > On Wed 12 Nov 2014 at 06:27:56 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> On 11/11/2014 2:16 PM, Brian wrote: >>> New users do not need to be be aware of all the background to the >>> choosing of a default init. No advertisement is needed. By definition, >>> they do not c

Re: Shared libraries not found during build

2014-11-12 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-11-12 21:08 +0100, Joel Roth wrote: > I'm running sid. For the first time in many months, I'm > trying to build a package from source. After compiling I'm > getting library-not-found errors, for example: > > apt-get source ntfs-3g > > debuild -b -uc -us > > Which eventually triggers a lib

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 08:10:42PM +, Brian wrote: Sounds like, doesn't it? Let's be practical and see how how a screen in d-i could present an init system choice to a user, particularly having a new user in mind. Well, like the question about bootloaders the init system choice should only

Re: [OT] Unfortunate sig (was ... Re: Joey Hess is out?)

2014-11-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/11/2014, Curt wrote: > On 2014-11-12, Chris Bannister wrote: >> >> ROFLMAO, what danger can he possibly cause at his age! > off keyboard> >> > > He's so old he's dead. > That may be so, but, as with Seneca and many others, his work still lives on. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Brian
On Wed 12 Nov 2014 at 06:27:56 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 11/11/2014 2:16 PM, Brian wrote: > > New users do not need to be be aware of all the background to the > > choosing of a default init. No advertisement is needed. By definition, > > they do not care. They want Debian. Please let them hav

Shared libraries not found during build

2014-11-12 Thread Joel Roth
Hi list, I'm running sid. For the first time in many months, I'm trying to build a package from source. After compiling I'm getting lib

Re: test message

2014-11-12 Thread Matt A
Hello. On Nov 12, 2014 2:55 PM, "Joel Roth" wrote: > greetings > > -- > Joel Roth > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141112195507.GA3134

test message

2014-11-12 Thread Joel Roth
greetings -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141112195507.GA31345@sprite

Re: Nvidia MCP51 Ethernet controller, link is not ready

2014-11-12 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 12. November 2014, 12:09:22 schrieb Achim Spreen: > Hello. > I have a desktop PC with AMD Sempron, a Nvidia MCP51 (on board) > Ethernet controller, Debian 7.6-amd64, Lxde and this problems with eth0: > eth0 is not up after bootup, not at irq 21 or other irq, Speed: Unknown, > Duplex: U

VPN routing on Sid

2014-11-12 Thread Luis Finotti
I'm having problems connecting to my desktop (running actually aptosid, which is virtually simply Debian Sid with a different kernel and a few extra tools and customizations). Here is the situation: my desktop is connected to a VPN service. (The router to which the desktop is connected is not, on

Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-12 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:29:27 -0200, Andre N Batista a écrit : > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 06:23:26PM +0100, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > > Le Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:58:33 -0500, > > Tanstaafl a écrit : > > > > > On 11/11/2014 9:26 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud > > > wrote: > > > > Blaming the Debian proj

Re: Gigabyte BRIX with (Debian) Linux

2014-11-12 Thread Robert Wall
Catalin, I have this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164017 I'm running Debian Stable on it. I needed to install an updated kernel from http://backports.debian.org/ to get ACPI working properly, and it'll only boot if there's a monitor connected (over VGA in my case;

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Brian
On Wed 12 Nov 2014 at 10:56:27 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 11/12/2014 at 10:43 AM, Brian wrote: > > > The reality is that d-i in jessie installs systemd. I labelled this > > reality with the phrase "default init system". I could change to > > using another phrase but it will not alter the rea

Re: Installing from Backports

2014-11-12 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2014-11-12 18:23, schrieb Cindy-Sue Causey: On 11/12/14, Christian Seiler wrote: However, in wheezy-backports there are some updated drivers that will *probably* work with your graphics card, but I haven't tested it. So basically, you could try to 1. Activate backports

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Ron
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:14:34 -0500 Miles Fidelman wrote: > One could hope that feedback might have some effect in influencing future > decisions. That it has not, or if anything rigidified the Direction of > Debian, is in itself, rather useful information when it comes to making plans > for fu

Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-12 Thread Andre N Batista
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 06:23:26PM +0100, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > Le Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:58:33 -0500, > Tanstaafl a écrit : > > > On 11/11/2014 9:26 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > > Blaming the Debian project for letting the Debian distribution > > > evolve in ways defined by its volunt

Installing from Backports (Was: INTEL HD Graphics)

2014-11-12 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 11/12/14, Christian Seiler wrote: > > However, in wheezy-backports there are some updated drivers that will > *probably* work with your graphics card, but I haven't tested it. > > So basically, you could try to > > 1. Activate backports > > 2

Re: FWD: CVE-request: systemd-resolved DNS cache poisoning

2014-11-12 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
On 12-11-2014 18:22, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Guys, This worth to be read: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/592 Best, Thiago IMHO, the answer is more interesting . QUOTE : "BIND 9 is supposed to filter such garbage from upstream answers, but there are other resolvers out there which wil

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
The Wanderer wrote: On 11/12/2014 at 10:43 AM, Brian wrote: On Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 23:18:56 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: systemd being "the default init system" can/could mean many different things. One of those things would mean that all of the things you say must necessarily be true. That poss

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 10.17:54 Miles Fidelman a écrit : Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 09.11:40 Tanstaafl a écrit : Which is precisely *why* (people) should have been required to fix that bug (…) This is simply not how Debian wo

Re: FWD: CVE-request: systemd-resolved DNS cache poisoning

2014-11-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 02:22:06PM -0200, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > Guys, > > This worth to be read: > > http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/592 The link says: systemd-resolved contains a caching resolver, which has to be enabled via /etc/nsswitch.conf in order to be integrated. So, dis

Re: HowTo Fork Debian? At first, just for fun... Plus a new home for kFreeBSD!

2014-11-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 12/11/14 16:46, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: On 12 November 2014 14:27, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 12/11/14 16:11, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Guys, I think that is time to start working on a `Debian Fork`. I have free hosting facilities and lots of servers to make thi

Re: how to install amd64 instead i386

2014-11-12 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 05:56:06PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: >Hi everybody, > >I install  solydx (debian based ) Amd64. >I have a local mirror ( for amd64)  it works fine on one machine (pure >debian) > >On solydx64, >when I tried apt-get update, it worked correct

how to install amd64 instead i386

2014-11-12 Thread Abdelkader Belahcene
Hi everybody, I install solydx (debian based ) Amd64. I have a local mirror ( for amd64) it works fine on one machine (pure debian) On solydx64, when I tried apt-get update, it worked correctly fine from remote repositoryserver, but it searched for i386 in from local repository . here is

Re: HowTo Fork Debian? At first, just for fun... Plus a new home for kFreeBSD!

2014-11-12 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 12/11/14 16:46, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > On 12 November 2014 14:27, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> On 12/11/14 16:11, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: >>> Guys, >>> >>> I think that is time to start working on a `Debian Fork`. >>> >> >> >>> I have free hosting facilities and lots of servers to make this a

Re: [OT] Unfortunate sig (was ... Re: Joey Hess is out?)

2014-11-12 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-12, Chris Bannister wrote: > > ROFLMAO, what danger can he possibly cause at his age! off keyboard> > He's so old he's dead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: htt

Re: HowTo Fork Debian? At first, just for fun... Plus a new home for kFreeBSD!

2014-11-12 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
On 12 November 2014 14:27, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 12/11/14 16:11, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: >> Guys, >> >> I think that is time to start working on a `Debian Fork`. >> > > >> I have free hosting facilities and lots of servers to make this a reality. > > Good! Now you can set up your own maili

FWD: CVE-request: systemd-resolved DNS cache poisoning

2014-11-12 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Guys, This worth to be read: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/592 Best, Thiago -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cajsm8j3f-azxoe_f2uxshfz+-ehpbmt

Re: HowTo Fork Debian? At first, just for fun... Plus a new home for kFreeBSD!

2014-11-12 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 12/11/14 16:11, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > Guys, > > I think that is time to start working on a `Debian Fork`. > > I have free hosting facilities and lots of servers to make this a reality. Good! Now you can set up your own mailing list, and stop bothering debian-user. And all your pals, of l

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/12/2014 10:40 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > I can't insist enough on this: the Debian procedures have been correctly > followed; the TC took a decision which could be challenged by a simple > majority GR [0]. This GR has never been called by anyone with voting > rights, or hasn't gath

HowTo Fork Debian? At first, just for fun... Plus a new home for kFreeBSD!

2014-11-12 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Guys, I think that is time to start working on a `Debian Fork`. Just for the record, I'm using `Debian` since `Potato` and I am very unhappy with this `systemd-fiasco`. `Debian` with `systemd` is NOT `Debian` anymore, it is another thing, completely different. It is time to take it back, to make

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/12/2014 at 10:43 AM, Brian wrote: > On Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 23:18:56 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: >> systemd being "the default init system" can/could mean many >> different things. >> >> One of those things would mean that all of the things you say must >> necessarily be true. That possible m

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread golinux
On Wed, 11/12/14, Tanstaafl wrote: Subject: Re: Installing an Alternative Init? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2014, 5:10 AM On 11/11/2014 3:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Actually, there's a patch (thank you Kenshi). It has not been applied. Hence, to use i

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 10.33:20 Tanstaafl a écrit : > On 11/12/2014 10:13 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 09.11:40 Tanstaafl a écrit : > >> Which is precisely *why* (people) should have been required to fix > >> that bug (…) > > > > This is simply not ho

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Brian
On Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 23:18:56 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 11/11/2014 at 01:51 PM, Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 12:58:25 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > >> Brian wrote: > >> > >>> Everyone gets it. Not everyone boots with it. Not everyone who > >>> boots first time with it ge

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 10.17:54 Miles Fidelman a écrit : > Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 09.11:40 Tanstaafl a écrit : > >> Which is precisely *why* (people) should have been required to fix > >> that bug (…) > > > > This is simply not how Debian works. > >

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/12/2014 10:13 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 09.11:40 Tanstaafl a écrit : >> Which is precisely *why* (people) should have been required to fix >> that bug (…) > > This is simply not how Debian works. If Debian works in such a way that the Tech Committee c

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-12 Thread Martin Read
On 12/11/14 14:20, Klistvud wrote: As a side note: once systemd is put in place, such problem-less and swift migration between desktop environments is just one of the many "Good Things Linux" going down the drain... Eh? I'm running XFCE *just fine* on a jessie box with systemd as init, and if

Gigabyte BRIX with (Debian) Linux

2014-11-12 Thread Catalin Soare
Hi everyone, I am thinking of buying one of these devices, and I was wondering if someone on the list has been successful in installing Debian on any BRIX device, and if they could share impressions. Here is one that I have in mind: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-brix-desktop-computer/1309

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 09.11:40 Tanstaafl a écrit : Which is precisely *why* (people) should have been required to fix that bug (…) This is simply not how Debian works. You mean a bug can't be marked as release critical? Miles Fidelman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 12 novembre 2014, 09.11:40 Tanstaafl a écrit : > Which is precisely *why* (people) should have been required to fix > that bug (…) This is simply not how Debian works. OdyX -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: how to find the cause of restart of my debian 7 machine.

2014-11-12 Thread Gary Dale
On 12/11/14 08:40 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: my machine was ON for several weeks but today it restarted for unknown reason. now it is working find. since the server is restarted there are too many log entries in var/log/messager and syslog as startup events. is there any easy way to reach

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-12 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 02. 11. 2014 11:44:47 je Jyri J. Virkki napisal(a): I imagine, hopefully, that such a question is clearly ludicrous and obviously completely misses the point? I don't use Windows due to it having this or that bug! I don't use it because everything about it is dissonant with how my mind works

Re: INTEL HD Graphics

2014-11-12 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2014-11-12 14:31, schrieb Man_Without_Clue: On 11/12/2014 08:32 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:04:02PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On 11 November 2014 17:30, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: On 2014-11-11 Lisi Reisz wrote: Intel runs fine on Wheezy, though you do need a kerne

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/12/2014 9:02 AM, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > So like Michael said, Jessie will indeed be the first > version that allows you to have an alternate init without modifying the > kernel cmdline. Which is precisely *why* the systemd proponents should have been required to fix that bug and get th

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Wed, 12 Nov 2014 06:10:55 -0500, Tanstaafl a écrit : > On 11/11/2014 3:33 PM, Miles Fidelman > wrote: > > Actually, there's a patch (thank you Kenshi). It has not been > > applied. Hence, to use it right now, one has to build a custom > > version of the installer. I hope, that post the init

Re: need help in rights delegation to a freelance "web developer"

2014-11-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: NOTE: These help, but if you end up on the attacking end of a distributed bot attack, it's likely that your Apache server will get hosed -- at times, I've had to tune Apache (number of concurrent processes, number of concurrent queries), to keep our

how to find the cause of restart of my debian 7 machine.

2014-11-12 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
my machine was ON for several weeks but today it restarted for unknown reason. now it is working find. since the server is restarted there are too many log entries in var/log/messager and syslog as startup events. is there any easy way to reach the specific entry related to the event. i have search

Re: Re: need help in rights delegation to a freelance "web developer"

2014-11-12 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
> NOTE: These help, but if you end up on the attacking end of a distributed > bot attack, it's likely that your Apache server will get hosed -- at times, > I've had to tune Apache (number of concurrent processes, number of > concurrent queries), to keep our server from getting so overloaded that it

Re: [OT] Unfortunate sig (was ... Re: Joey Hess is out?)

2014-11-12 Thread John Hasler
Chris Bannister writes: > ROFLMAO, what danger can he possibly cause at his age! off keyboard> Dangerman was made in the 1960s. -- John "Never pick a fight with an old man. He may be to tired to fight and so he'll just kill you" Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: INTEL HD Graphics

2014-11-12 Thread Man_Without_Clue
On 11/12/2014 08:32 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:04:02PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On 11 November 2014 17:30, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: On 2014-11-11 Lisi Reisz wrote: Intel runs fine on Wheezy, though you do need a kernel upgrade in the form of a backported kernel f

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/11/2014 3:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Actually, there's a patch (thank you Kenshi). It has not been applied. Hence, to use it right now, one has to build a custom version of the installer. I hope, that post the initial Jessie release, the deboostrap and installer maint

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Tanstaafl wrote: On 11/11/2014 2:16 PM, Brian wrote: New users do not need to be be aware of all the background to the choosing of a default init. No advertisement is needed. By definition, they do not care. They want Debian. Please let them have it. Wow... what arrogance... That is tantamoun

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-12 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:39 AM, Steve Greig wrote: >>apt-cache search android | less > >>returns some interesting results? > > > That was useful to know how to search the APT cache. > > > I am thinking of starting a new thread as I am completely unable to > find any of the files and folders I cr

Re: INTEL HD Graphics

2014-11-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:04:02PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On 11 November 2014 17:30, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: > > On 2014-11-11 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > >> Intel runs fine on Wheezy, though you do need a kernel upgrade in the > >> form of a backported kernel for some (though not all) Intel dri

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/11/2014 2:16 PM, Brian wrote: > New users do not need to be be aware of all the background to the > choosing of a default init. No advertisement is needed. By definition, > they do not care. They want Debian. Please let them have it. Wow... what arrogance... That is tantamount to treating

Nvidia MCP51 Ethernet controller, link is not ready

2014-11-12 Thread Achim Spreen
Hello. I have a desktop PC with AMD Sempron, a Nvidia MCP51 (on board) Ethernet controller, Debian 7.6-amd64, Lxde and this problems with eth0: eth0 is not up after bootup, not at irq 21 or other irq, Speed: Unknown, Duplex: Unknown, Link detected: no The cable is o.k. and connected. # /etc/n

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-12 Thread Chris Bannister
[Please don't top post, it makes it hard to read/follow] On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 06:39:42PM +, Steve Greig wrote: > >apt-cache search android | less > > >returns some interesting results? > > > That was useful to know how to search the APT cache. > > > I am thinking of starting a new th

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 07:53:47AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Chris Bannister writes: > > I read that as 'trouble unsubscribing?' then Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org. > > I wrote: > > I read it as 'technical trouble with this list'. You're right, though: > > now that we have listmoms th

[OT] Unfortunate sig (was ... Re: Joey Hess is out?)

2014-11-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 03:35:08AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 12/11/2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > > I will not make any deals with you. I've resigned. I will not be > > pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My > > life is my own. I resign. > > -- Patrick McGoohan

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/11/2014 3:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Actually, there's a patch (thank you Kenshi). It has not been applied. > Hence, to use it right now, one has to build a custom version of the > installer. I hope, that post the initial Jessie release, the deboostrap > and installer maintainers w

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:42:00PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Don Armstrong writes: > > Sexism like this is inappropriate in Debian. Please stop. > > Ok. List-parental-units. Or LPU's for short. :) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppress

Re: A Synaptic question

2014-11-12 Thread Ron
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:10:33 + "Karl E. Jorgensen" wrote: > > In my recently installed Debian 7.7 in notice in Synaptic Settings => > > Repositories => Updates that I can choose to be notified of being notified > > of a new Ubuntu version. > > > > Ubuntu ? > > Sounds like a bug... And

Re: find problem

2014-11-12 Thread Raffaele Morelli
On 11/11/14 at 04:09pm, B. M. wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm struggling with a find problem. > > I want to combine find and par2create recursively in order to get the > following done: > > Foreach file with a certain suffix (e.g. avi) do par2create for that > file in its directory, so e.g. > > I'm in

Re: A Synaptic question

2014-11-12 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 06:27:16AM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > In my recently installed Debian 7.7 in notice in Synaptic Settings => > Repositories => Updates that I can choose to be notified of being notified of > a new Ubuntu version. > > Ubuntu ? Sounds like a bug... And from perusin

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 11 nov 14, 18:25:03, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >On Ma, 11 nov 14, 12:34:10, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >>Laurent Bigonville wrote: > >>>There are no functional differences between an installation with > >>>sysvinit-core out of the box or an install where sysvinit-core is >

A Synaptic question

2014-11-12 Thread Ron
In my recently installed Debian 7.7 in notice in Synaptic Settings => Repositories => Updates that I can choose to be notified of being notified of a new Ubuntu version. Ubuntu ? Cheers, Ron. -- Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the gro

Warning: confirmed severe issue after Yosemite update on Macbook Airs

2014-11-12 Thread Christian Kastner
Hi, upgrading OSX to Yosemite on a Macbook Air (Mid 2013) and (Mid 2014) apparently also updates the firmware in a way that triggers an interrrupt storm in Linux. This is related to the i915 driver. The result is kworder thread running full steam, and this will eat away your battery in no time.

Re: Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.11.2014 22:53, Miles Fidelman a écrit : On a broader note, Debian, Linux, *nix in general, and FOSS software are a complex and highly-interdependent ecosystem. Yes some people just take, but an awful lot of us contribute in various ways, in various places, to the overall ecosystem - be it

zabbix upgrade question

2014-11-12 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I've inherited responsibility for a server running zabbix, which I don't know much about. I've upgraded it from squeeze to wheezy, but there are no wheezy packages, so it's still running the squeeze ones. There are wheezy-backports packages, s