On Du, 16 nov 14, 20:52:23, Robert wrote:
> Sometimes you only want services to start based on a "weird" trigger.
> I have one use case where I only want a service to start once we have
> received a valid GPS lock. With /sbin/init it looked like this:
>
> #!/bin/bash
> while [ ]; do
>sleep 5;
On Du, 16 nov 14, 20:52:13, Robert wrote:
>
> To help with field debugging I currently check the state of one of the
> buttons at startup and if it is pressed, the unit starts the 802.11 in
> host (hostapd) mode and starts sshd.
>
> This was trivial to configure with /sbin/init calling a shellscr
On Vi, 07 nov 14, 21:48:04, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
> I mean, with all the fighting that has been going on, I wouldn't be
> surprised if it had *something* to do with it. Joey seems to be all
> about systemd if you read his blog, so I am guessing it isn't about
> it being used, but about the whole
On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> >In the later case, one just has to read:
> >http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
> >to get very, very scared
>
> Each one a bug as per Debian policy (sysvinit support). Loo
Hi,
There is an interesting discussion taking place on debian-devel starting
with this message:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00484.html
I'm not trying to 'put out fire with gasoline', I just thought that
anybody with concerns may be interested in reading that thread.
This is
bear:/var/www/apt# reprepro --ask-passphrase -Vb . includedeb wheezy
~msoulier/*.deb
Error: Distribution wheezy contains an architecture called 'all'.
There have been errors!
I haven’t changed anything in my configuration of this custom apt repository,
and yet suddenly it’s not working. Can some
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 10:17 PM, David Christensen
wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 06:20 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>> rajulocal@hogwarts:~/public_html/perl$ cat mod_perl_rules1.pl
>> print "Content-type: text/plain\n\n";
>> print "mod_perl rules!\n";
>
> ...
>>
>> However, if I point the iceweasel br
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 09:28:23PM +0100, Francesco Ariis wrote:
> Hello Debian users,
>
> I recently bought a MIDI keyboard and tried it with qsynth (which is
> the Qt interface to fluidsynth); everything works (midi events are recognised,
> sound comes out, using alsa_seq).
>
> Now to the p
On 11/16/2014 06:20 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
I am trying to set up the apache server with mod_perl so that I can
execute perl scripts in the browser itself.
There once was an attempt to put Perl code into web pages for execution
by browsers (among others), but JavaScript won that contest
On 11/16/2014 04:04 PM, David Fuchs wrote:
I am setting up a system with an Intel octo-core Avoton, which has AES-NI
support.
... The drive in question is a Samsung 840 pro SSD,
Which Debian release? Kernel? Motherboard make/ model? CPU model?
RAM module(s) make/ model? SSD exact model?
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 08:52:30PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 16/11/14 06:39 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
> >Did you try starting the VMs directly using the qemu command?
> Don't have qemu installed. virsh reports:
Maybe there is some connection (c.f. Subject:)
> error: failed to connect to the hyper
I am trying to set up the apache server with mod_perl so that I can
execute perl scripts in the browser itself.
I have the following packages installed
rajulocal@hogwarts:~/public_html/perl$ dpkg -l \*apache\* | grep ^ii
ii apache2 2.4.10-6amd64Apache HTTP Serve
On 16/11/14 06:39 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 05:43:07PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
I've been running a couple of virtual machines on a Wheezy/AMD64 server for
a few years now. After the last reboot, I couldn't connect to them anymore.
I can't get libvirtd to start on the server:
On 11/16/2014 03:32 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Marty wrote:
My point is that in a modular design nothing should be so entrenched
as to be irreplaceable. Absence of an alternate should not normally
indicate impossibility of an alternate, but some discussi
David Fuchs wrote:
> In short, the write speed plummets to around 160 MB/s, as opposed to 270
> MB/s on the naked partition; read speed is at 115 MB/s (slower than writing
> - no idea why), as opposed to 465 MB/s on the bare partition. (I've pasted
> the results below.)
I don't have an immediate a
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:53:40PM +0100, lee wrote:
> Patrick Ouellette writes:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 08:52:58PM +0100, lee wrote:
> >>
> >> Fortunately, downtime isn't an issue. I also have a 32GB USB stick, and
> >> all the LVs are smaller than 32GB.
> >>
> >> Since there seems to b
Hi all,
First off, I realize this question has been asked here and elsewhere
before, but I can't seem to find any recent relevant numbers on this.
I am setting up a system with an Intel octo-core Avoton, which has AES-NI
support. After doing some crude benchmarking tests with dd, I am surprised
a
Hi,
Jerry Stuckle writes:
> On 11/16/2014 10:29 AM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle writes:
>>> So why, instead of spending all this time on a new init system didn't
>>> developers already familiar with sysvinit work on it? Systemd wasn't
>>> one person alone.
>>
>> Presumably nobody
One thing at a time.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> [...]
> Your definition of mainstream is strange.
What's strange about it? Do I need to provide a link to the dictionary
for you for that? I assume not.
Given a community, there is a mainstream within that community.
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 05:43:07PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
> I've been running a couple of virtual machines on a Wheezy/AMD64 server for
> a few years now. After the last reboot, I couldn't connect to them anymore.
> I can't get libvirtd to start on the server:
>
> [] Starting libvirt manageme
Dne, 16. 11. 2014 21:06:09 je Tanstaafl napisal(a):
On 11/16/2014 6:40 AM, Klistvud wrote:
> As a further example, the former udev (prior to being merged into
> systemd) has already been forked and could/will serve us well for
> years to come. And so on.
Is eudev in the debian sources?
Or do y
I've been running a couple of virtual machines on a Wheezy/AMD64 server
for a few years now. After the last reboot, I couldn't connect to them
anymore. I can't get libvirtd to start on the server:
[] Starting libvirt management daemon: libvirtd/usr/sbin/libvirtd:
error: unable to determine
Guys,
For months, I was reluctant to move to `systemd` but, right now, for
the first time, I'm seeing some benefits of using it, let me try to
explain...
For years, I looked for an alternative (DirectFB, for example) Linux
GUI environment that doesn't use Xorg, it is slow, bloated and old
fashi
On 16/11/14 21:42, Keith Peter wrote:
On 16/11/2014, Peter Nieman wrote:
[snip]
It's the domination of the desktop environment ideology that's the
problem. Many users came to Linux and Debian years ago because they were
fed up with Microsoft. And now the same ideology infiltrates their
Linux,
On 16/11/14 18:33, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
You might very well be unhappy with this situation, the way the decision
was taken, the way it wasn't challenged by the DDs, the fact that no
conditions were posed to systemd maintainers, or anything else, that's
totally fine. Please just be aware th
On 11/16/2014 at 02:51 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:28:35PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
[about the Linux kernel developers]
>> They do, however, maintain their external interfaces - rigidly so,
>> sometimes to what others might call the point of insanity. An
>> intention
On 11/16/2014 10:29 AM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Jerry Stuckle writes:
>> The problem here is lack of time and/or skills. I would love to help,
>> but I already have my plate full. Additionally, I've done device
>> drivers and applications, but never dealt with init systems. There
>>
On 16/11/2014, Peter Nieman wrote:
[snip]
> It's the domination of the desktop environment ideology that's the
> problem. Many users came to Linux and Debian years ago because they were
> fed up with Microsoft. And now the same ideology infiltrates their
> Linux, whether they chose to install a
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Marty wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 05:26 AM, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> >Le Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:21:49 -0500,
> >Marty a écrit :
> >
> >>On 11/15/2014 06:49 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >[...]
> >>>
> >>> At least some of people rejecting systemd demand that it
On 11/16/2014 12:33 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
>
> In general, debian-user is not the right venue for complaints about
> Debian decisions; the continuation of the debian-user hijack by these
> discussions is a disgrace to this list; please stop. Seriously.
>
> OdyX
>
>
Your continued ra
On 11/16/2014 6:40 AM, Klistvud wrote:
> As a further example, the former udev (prior to being merged into
> systemd) has already been forked and could/will serve us well for
> years to come. And so on.
Is eudev in the debian sources?
Or do you mean another fork?
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For the benefit of OP with similar {concerns, interests, problems}, I have
documented my process @
https://bitbucket.org/tlroche/linode_jumpbox_config/wiki/Home
Part is scripted, and part is not, but even the part that is *not* scripted
provides cut'n'pasteable console input. The good news is,
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:28:35PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 at 11:23 AM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 09:43:23PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> >
> >> I have been informed off-list that some might misinterpret
> >> something I wrote here, so I will attempt to cl
Hi
This is my first post to a debian-* list even though I have been a
(happy) user for many years, both on the desktop and on embedded
devices. I am currently looking at the implications that running systemd
on some of our products will have, and while many things seem like they
will get simpler,
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 nov 14, 11:50:25, Miles Fidelman wrote:
So... with systemd, one has to:
- rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
- rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
In the later case, one just has to read:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 06:08:48PM +, Martin Read wrote:
> On 16/11/14 17:33, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> >Are you aware that this is the approach that systemd and upstart have
> >taken, right?
> >
> >1) Both systemd (PID1) and upstart are drop-in replacement for the good
> >old SysVinit as the
Given the existence of
(http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/MyServiceCantGetRealtime/),
it seems that realtime and systemd is problematic. Has anyone tried the
workarounds mentioned with a PREEMPT_RT kernel? How did it go?
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This was recently posted on #systemd-devel:
"To make this clear, we expect that systemd and kernels are updated in
lockstep. We explicitly do not support really old kernels with really
new systemd. So far we had the focus to support up to 2y old kernels
(which means 3.4 right now), but even that s
Sometimes you only want services to start based on a "weird" trigger.
I have one use case where I only want a service to start once we have
received a valid GPS lock. With /sbin/init it looked like this:
#!/bin/bash
while [ ]; do
sleep 5; #wait for lock
done;
service &
with systemd I have to
By choosing packages carefully, it is possible to use linux in
applications that need to meet SIL1 or SIL2 criteria [1]. I personally
don't have any applications that need to meet SIL2, but it is possible
to meet SIL1 by taking a normal installation and removing a bunch of
stuff (initramfs, udev an
I have a use case where I have a logging unit with a few buttons that
are available to the user. The buttons are read via the kernel GPIO
methods. There is no display, no keyboard, only 802.11.
Normally the unit starts a few daemons and starts the 802.11 in client
(wpa_supplicant) mode.
To help w
Hi
This is my first post to a debian-* list even though I have been a
(happy) user for many years, both on the desktop and on embedded
devices. I am currently looking at the implications that running systemd
on some of our products will have, and while many things seem like they
will get simpler,
Le 16/11/2014 19:22, Patrick Bartek a écrit :
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Klistvud wrote:
>
>> Dne, 21. 10. 2014 04:06:23 je Marty napisal(a):
>>> On 10/20/2014 03:45 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
After much vitriolic gnashing of teeth from those opposed to
systemd, I wonder... What is a better a
Le Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:08:48 +,
Martin Read a écrit :
> On 16/11/14 17:33, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> > Are you aware that this is the approach that systemd and upstart
> > have taken, right?
> >
> > 1) Both systemd (PID1) and upstart are drop-in replacement for the
> > good old SysVinit as
Le Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:50:25 -0500,
Miles Fidelman a écrit :
[...]
> So... with systemd, one has to:
> - rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
> - rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
>
> In the later case, one just has to read:
> http://www.freedesktop.or
OdyX writes:
> ...please stop. Seriously.
Please stop ranting about the ranting. Seriously. It's just as
distracting and irritating as the rants themselves. Just filter the
rant threads and those who post them. I'd filter all subjects
containing the string "[Ss]ystemd" but there may be things
On 11/16/2014 at 11:23 AM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 09:43:23PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>
>> I have been informed off-list that some might misinterpret
>> something I wrote here, so I will attempt to clarify a few things.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Joel Rees
>>
On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
In the later case, one just has to read:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
to get very, very scared
Each one a bug as per Debian policy (sysvinit support). Looks like we
have our work cut out for us.
Among the
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 21. 10. 2014 04:06:23 je Marty napisal(a):
> > On 10/20/2014 03:45 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> After much vitriolic gnashing of teeth from those opposed to
> >> systemd, I wonder... What is a better alternative? And it can't
> >> be sysvinit.
>
> W
On 11/16/2014 at 12:33 PM, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
> Le Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:53:24 +, Nuno Magalhães
> a écrit :
>
>> On 2014-11-16 11:40, Klistvud wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Reviving the existing init systems. Modernizing them, making
>>> them into true, interchangeable drop-in replacements of eac
On Du, 16 nov 14, 11:50:25, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> So... with systemd, one has to:
> - rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or,
> - rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which
>
> In the later case, one just has to read:
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/
On 16/11/14 17:33, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Are you aware that this is the approach that systemd and upstart have
taken, right?
1) Both systemd (PID1) and upstart are drop-in replacement for the good
old SysVinit as they both support the common "standard" that are LSB
scripts (A really good sha
On 11/16/2014 05:26 AM, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Le Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:21:49 -0500,
Marty a écrit :
On 11/15/2014 06:49 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
[...]
>
> At least some of people rejecting systemd demand that it be removed
> completely, including libsystemd. How is it pro-choice to forbi
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:50:25AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
> occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
> applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
> scripts.
>
> I just went through t
Le Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:53:24 +,
Nuno Magalhães a écrit :
> On 2014-11-16 11:40, Klistvud wrote:
> > 1. Reviving the existing init systems. Modernizing them, making them
> > into true, interchangeable drop-in replacements of each other,
> > which do the task assigned, and do it well. Each of t
Le dimanche, 16 novembre 2014, 16.36:42 Peter Nieman a écrit :
> Preventing the systemd takeover is certainly important, but it won't
> be enough to reverse the trend, I fear.
None of the talking on debian-user about "meta", "conceptual" or
"generic" systemd issues will allow a "systemd takeover"
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, mad wrote:
> I'm wondering if CPU frequency sclaing works with a Xeon E3-1220Lv2.
Yes. But AFAIK the cpufreq backend kernel driver for that platform depends
on the motherboard's ACPI information to work.
i.e. make sure your UEFI/BIOS is up-to-date, and properly configured (i
On 11/15/2014 08:35 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
At the same time, most debian users likely do not really care about transition
plan and systemd. It was widely published everywhere in March and yet, no one
would have cared if this
mattered ?
I installed systemd to Jessie as soon as it was announc
On 16/11/2014 17:01, Ron Leach wrote:
ron@d7server:~$ ssh-keygen
-bash: ssh_keygen : command not found
ron@d7server:~$
Idiot.
I've been typing ssh_keygen .
Apologies to the list. And thanks to Lisi and Ansgar.
Don't you ever only see it after it's too late.
Sorry, Ron
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:01:41 +
Ron Leach wrote:
> I hesitate to trouble the list with this but, when trying to generate
> a key pair on a (lenny) system recently upgraded to wheezy, 7.7, I am
> seeing this:
>
> ron@d7server:~$ ssh-keygen
> -bash: ssh_keygen : command not found
> ron@
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service scripts.
I just went through the documentation, and in some cases, the source
trees, for the following
Hi,
Ron Leach writes:
> I hesitate to trouble the list with this but, when trying to generate
> a key pair on a (lenny) system recently upgraded to wheezy, 7.7, I am
> seeing this:
>
> ron@d7server:~$ ssh-keygen
> -bash: ssh_keygen : command not found
Hmm, bash complaining about ssh_keygen (with
On Sunday 16 November 2014 17:01:41 Ron Leach wrote:
> I hesitate to trouble the list with this but, when trying to generate
> a key pair on a (lenny) system recently upgraded to wheezy, 7.7, I am
> seeing this:
>
> ron@d7server:~$ ssh-keygen
> -bash: ssh_keygen : command not found
> ron@d7server:~
I hesitate to trouble the list with this but, when trying to generate
a key pair on a (lenny) system recently upgraded to wheezy, 7.7, I am
seeing this:
ron@d7server:~$ ssh-keygen
-bash: ssh_keygen : command not found
ron@d7server:~$
Aptitude says that openssh-client, version 1:6.0p1-4+deb7 is
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 nov 14, 10:18:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Let me also turn the question back at you:
Have you considered, just for a fraction of a second, that a migration
to systemd, could, in fact, make some systems LESS reliable and understandable?
Sure I did. systemd is not b
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 09:43:23PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> I have been informed off-list that some might misinterpret something I
> wrote here, so I will attempt to clarify a few things.
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Tanstaafl
> >
Hi!
I'm wondering if CPU frequency sclaing works with a Xeon E3-1220Lv2.
With all my other Debian installations frequency scaling works out of
the box (not even cpufrequtils is installed), but not with the E3. Or
does this CPU not "scale" and it has some other power saving methods?
Web searches we
On Du, 16 nov 14, 10:18:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> Let me also turn the question back at you:
>
> Have you considered, just for a fraction of a second, that a migration
> to systemd, could, in fact, make some systems LESS reliable and
> understandable?
Sure I did. systemd is not bug-free and
Frankly, I don't understand why so many people are focussing on systemd
so much. In my opinion, systemd ist just a *symptom* (although perhaps a
very prominent one). It is not the *cause* of the disease or the disease
itself.
Has anyone ever wondered where all these funny directories like
~/.
On 16/11/14 11:40, Klistvud wrote:
1. Reviving the existing init systems. Modernizing them, making them
into true, interchangeable drop-in replacements of each other, which do
the task assigned, and do it well. Each of them accomplishing at least
the common subset of tasks an init system is suppo
Hi,
Jerry Stuckle writes:
> The problem here is lack of time and/or skills. I would love to help,
> but I already have my plate full. Additionally, I've done device
> drivers and applications, but never dealt with init systems. There
> would be a big learning curve. And then there is the poli
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 15 nov 14, 11:37:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
For some (many?) of us, systemd represents no gain, and significant
operational impact (time required to deal with changes).
Have you considered, just for a fraction of a second, that a migration
to systemd, however painful
On 2014-Nov-03 22:46, Proxy wrote:
> On 2014-Nov-02 18:36, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Proxy wrote:
> >
> > > Still doesn't work. I don't think this is related to Iceweasel version.
> > >
> >
> > That is my guess. But I also do not know which package/version co
On 11/16/2014 6:40 AM, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 21. 10. 2014 04:06:23 je Marty napisal(a):
>> On 10/20/2014 03:45 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>>> After much vitriolic gnashing of teeth from those opposed to systemd,
>>> I wonder... What is a better alternative? And it can't be sysvinit.
>
> Why not?
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:41:23PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Marty wrote:
> >On 11/15/2014 07:45 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> >>On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:26:26AM -0500, Marty wrote:
> >>>On 11/11/2014 02:16 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 12:36:14 -0500, Marty wrote:
>
> >
Hi,
Nuno Magalhães writes:
> On 2014-11-16 11:40, Klistvud wrote:
>> 1. Reviving the existing init systems. Modernizing them, making them
>> into true, interchangeable drop-in replacements of each other, which do
>> the task assigned, and do it well. Each of them accomplishing at least
>> the com
Hi,
Thank you very much for your help.
Replacing
ikki-fstype=ntfs,gid=46,dmask=002,fmask=113 :/dev/ikki
with
ikki-fstype=fuse,gid=46,dmask=002,fmask=113 :ntfs-3g#/dev/ikki
solved the problem.
ntfs-3g was already installed on my system.
Regards.
Thierry
On Sun, 16 Nov 2
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:25:01PM -0500, Marty wrote:
> On 11/15/2014 07:45 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> >On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:26:26AM -0500, Marty wrote:
> >>On 11/11/2014 02:16 PM, Brian wrote:
> >>>On Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 12:36:14 -0500, Marty wrote:
> >>>
> On 11/11/2014 12:07 PM, Lauren
On Sb, 15 nov 14, 11:37:14, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> For some (many?) of us, systemd represents no gain, and significant
> operational impact (time required to deal with changes).
Have you considered, just for a fraction of a second, that a migration
to systemd, however painful it may prove, co
On 2014-11-16 11:40, Klistvud wrote:
> 1. Reviving the existing init systems. Modernizing them, making them
> into true, interchangeable drop-in replacements of each other, which do
> the task assigned, and do it well. Each of them accomplishing at least
> the common subset of tasks an init system
On Du, 16 nov 14, 15:32:58, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> My mental image about Debian and FOSS is more of an eco-systemd, where
^^
> survival of the fittest applies.
That typo is just too funny :p
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Sb, 15 nov 14, 17:21:22, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> Another topic:
> My reading of the man page for apt-get seems to say that there
> is no way to purge the configuration file of packages that were pulled
> in to satisfy a dependency and subsequently autoremoved. I hope this
> is an artifact of p
On Sb, 15 nov 14, 21:25:01, Marty wrote:
>
> I don't think Debian (or FOSS, for that matter) was ever about a
> winner-take-all approach to software choice. That seems to have originated
> in the commercial distributions, which have a financial interest in a)
> controlling users and b) controlling
On 11/16/2014 at 05:58 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 15 Nov 2014 at 19:31:27 -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 11/15/2014 at 07:21 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:
>>
>>> Yet another topic: It should be possible to install systemd on a
>>> system that already has some other init system installed on it.
>>>
Hi.
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:42:31 +0100
Thierry Rascle wrote:
> The automounting used to work for all of the entries, but now does not
> for the three entries with "-fstype=ntfs".
Install ntfs-3g, replace
-fstype=ntfs,gid=46,dmask=002,fmask=113 :/dev/ikki jacala
with
-fstype=fuse,gid=46,
I have been informed off-list that some might misinterpret something I
wrote here, so I will attempt to clarify a few things.
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> On 11/12/2014 5:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>> On Mi, 12 nov
Dne, 21. 10. 2014 04:06:23 je Marty napisal(a):
On 10/20/2014 03:45 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
After much vitriolic gnashing of teeth from those opposed to systemd,
I wonder... What is a better alternative? And it can't be sysvinit.
Why not? I do not see sysvinit -- or any other legacy init s
Hi list,
I'm using sid, with wmii as my only window manager and desktop
environment.
I'm using autofs for automounting my external devices:
- CD/DVD drives,
- USB sticks formatted as FAT or NTFS,
- external hard disk drives formatted has EXT4 or NTFS. or NTFS),
CD-ROM drives, external hard dis
On Sun 16 Nov 2014 at 00:23:24 +, Martin Read wrote:
> On 15/11/14 23:04, Paul E Condon wrote:
> >If one could absolutely rely on apt-get always getting it right, then
> >
> >"apt-get install -y sysvinit-core"
> >
> >could always be used to remove systemd even from a system that has
> >been bo
On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:39:29 +
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Hello Lisi,
>Thanks, Brad.
NP.
>As I said, I could only alter Flash, and that made no difference.
>Still: "Video can't be played because the file is corrupt".
TBH, I'm not really sure what's happening, since the H264 codec doesn't
seem to
On Sat 15 Nov 2014 at 19:31:27 -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 11/15/2014 at 07:21 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> > Yet another topic: It should be possible to install systemd on a
> > system that already has some other init system installed on it. This
> > should be tested, but how?
>
> If I unde
Le Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:21:49 -0500,
Marty a écrit :
> On 11/15/2014 06:49 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
[...]
> >
> > At least some of people rejecting systemd demand that it be removed
> > completely, including libsystemd. How is it pro-choice to forbid me
> > from being able to use a software at it
>
>
> > For me, fiddling with ventilation/cooling fans is a job for Archibald
> > "Harry" Tuttle
>
> Nice one! I'm assuming you're referring to the movie Brasil.
>
> That's right. The business of cooling seems to be important in computing
(see
http://techreport.com/review/26279/amd-radeo
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