Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

it's Historical I'm old, I was there I'm old, so I don't remember the details On 3/14/21 3:49 AM, Susmita/Rajib wrote: While Intel PCs are also 64bit processors? For instance, my current laptop is Lenovo IdeaPad 320-15ISK 80XH01FKIN 15.6-inch Laptop (6th Gen Core i3-6006U/4GB/2TB/Integrated

Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

As a direct response to your subject, I quote "Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems?" Because the currently successful Intel architecture (core, etc) is (more or less) a copy of AMD's. The history goes

Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 07:19:25AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-03-14 at 06:49, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > > > While Intel PCs are also 64bit processors? > > Because of the history of the processor microarchitectures involved. > > The x86 processor line (32-bit and older) was, to the best

Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

On 14/03/2021 07:49, Susmita/Rajib wrote: While Intel PCs are also 64bit processors? For instance, my current laptop is Lenovo IdeaPad 320-15ISK 80XH01FKIN 15.6-inch Laptop (6th Gen Core i3-6006U/4GB/2TB/Integrated Graphics), a 64bit processor. It can't be that intellectuals, technocrats and

Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

On Du, 14 mar 21, 16:19:45, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > While Intel PCs are also 64bit processors? > > For instance, my current laptop is Lenovo IdeaPad 320-15ISK 80XH01FKIN > 15.6-inch Laptop (6th Gen Core i3-6006U/4GB/2TB/Integrated Graphics), > a 64bit processor. > > It can't be that

Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

On 2021-03-14 at 06:49, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > While Intel PCs are also 64bit processors? Because of the history of the processor microarchitectures involved. The x86 processor line (32-bit and older) was, to the best of my knowledge, originally an Intel thing. Before i386 (where the 'i' may

Re: Why is gvfsd-metadata my top task in top -- is it a problem, and what should I do if it is.

On Thursday, February 11, 2021 12:12:45 PM Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 11.02.2021 20:58, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On my Wheezy system, I've noticed that for the past 2 or 3 days, gvfsd- > > metadata has been the top running task when I check with top. > It sure looks like a bug of

Re: Why is gvfsd-metadata my top task in top -- is it a problem, and what should I do if it is.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 10:58:10AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On my Wheezy system, I've noticed that for the past 2 or 3 days, gvfsd- > metadata has been the top running task when I check with top. > > Comments: > >* I've never seen that before (I've never even noticed that I had

Re: Why is gvfsd-metadata my top task in top -- is it a problem, and what should I do if it is.

On 11.02.2021 20:58, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On my Wheezy system, I've noticed that for the past 2 or 3 days, gvfsd- metadata has been the top running task when I check with top. Comments: * I've never seen that before (I've never even noticed that I had such as task running (I didn't

Re: Why is idle not detected?

Rainer Dorsch writes: > Is there a way to find out what is the holding back the idle detection? Some years ago I remember I had an indicator in KDE which clearly indicated the culprit. For me it was usually Chromium back then. I haven't seen that recently and I have no idea what provided that

Re: Why is idle not detected?

On Mi, 06 ian 21, 21:46:51, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Debian 10 and sometimes idle is not detected correctly on my > (KDE) system and the desktop is not going to suspend. > > A typical candidate is a not correctly terminating vlc process which does not > have a screen anymore

Re: Why is idle not detected?

On Sb, 09 ian 21, 00:25:46, Anders Andersson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 9:47 PM Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > > > I am running Debian 10 and sometimes idle is not detected correctly on my > > (KDE) system and the desktop is not going to suspend. > > > > A typical candidate is a not correctly

Re: Why is idle not detected?

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 9:47 PM Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > Hi, > > I am running Debian 10 and sometimes idle is not detected correctly on my > (KDE) system and the desktop is not going to suspend. > > A typical candidate is a not correctly terminating vlc process which does not > have a screen

Re: Why are some excutables not installed in /bin or /usr/bin ? [was: command file location]

On 2020-12-25 at 08:55, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 25 dec 20, 06:38:14, gru...@mailfence.com wrote: >> over the years i've noticed that some command files are put in what >> i would call not usual locations for example >> /usr/lib/dropbear/dropbearconvert > > dpkg -L is very helpful in such

Re: Why are some excutables not installed in /bin or /usr/bin ? [was: command file location]

On Vi, 25 dec 20, 06:38:14, gru...@mailfence.com wrote: > over the years i've noticed that some command files are put in what i would > call not usual locations > for example /usr/lib/dropbear/dropbearconvert dpkg -L is very helpful in such cases. > and to add insult to injury many times the

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - Does this avoid the hijack?

On Thu 26 Nov 2020 at 09:34:25 (+), Joe wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 21:57:10 -0600 David Wright wrote: > > > Perhaps the problem is similar to the one I had with this list > > (hence the change I made above). What happened was that my posts' > > Envelope-from (set to the same as my From

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - Does this avoid the hijack?

On Thu 26 Nov 2020 at 08:52:30 (+), mick crane wrote: > On 2020-11-26 03:57, David Wright wrote: > > > What sort of rejections and/or bounces have you had? > > It showed up that mails to getmail list that uses Exim were refused as > unsubscribed whereas before was OK. I take it that was

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - Does this avoid the hijack?

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 21:57:10 -0600 David Wright wrote: > Perhaps the problem is similar to the one I had with this list > (hence the change I made above). What happened was that my posts' > Envelope-from (set to the same as my From address above) was being > changed by my mail hosting service

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - Does this avoid the hijack?

On 2020-11-26 03:57, David Wright wrote: What sort of rejections and/or bounces have you had? It showed up that mails to getmail list that uses Exim were refused as unsubscribed whereas before was OK. I "think" I then subscribed with noctiluc...@sky.com which worked for a bit but then from

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - Does this avoid the hijack?

On Wed 25 Nov 2020 at 00:08:27 (+), mick crane wrote: > On 2020-11-23 12:19, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 23 nov 20, 14:27:36, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > I was interested to read that Flo, the OP, uses separate mail > > > collection, sendmail and thunderbird. Some of the replies sound

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 20:11:29 + Joe wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:13:03 -0500 > Celejar wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:03:21 + > > Joe wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > proper email client or webmail. I have to admit I use a netbook > > > while away from home, as I have both

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:13:03 -0500 Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:03:21 + > Joe wrote: > > ... > > > proper email client or webmail. I have to admit I use a netbook > > while away from home, as I have both "smart"phone and tablet, but > > they are extremely limited toys and they

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d

On Wed 25 Nov 2020 at 09:30:41 (+1100), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 23:34:56 -0600 David Wright wrote: > >>> On Mon 23 Nov 2020 at 14:27:36 (+1100), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > >>> > So does htis get a new subject in the list? > > Interesting. I'll try it next time I want to use

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:03:21 + Joe wrote: ... > proper email client or webmail. I have to admit I use a netbook while > away from home, as I have both "smart"phone and tablet, but they are > extremely limited toys and they are owned by Google. If I need a mobile > computer, then I want a

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 09:30:41AM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 23:34:56 -0600 David Wright > wrote: > > >>> On Mon 23 Nov 2020 at 14:27:36 (+1100), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > >>> > So does htis get a new subject in the list? > > Interesting. I'll try it next time I want

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - Does this avoid the hijack?

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 00:08:27 + mick crane wrote: > On 2020-11-23 12:19, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 23 nov 20, 14:27:36, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > >> So does htis get a new subject in the list? > >> > >> Good afternon All > >> > >> I was interested to read that Flo, the OP, uses

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:30:49 +1100 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > I like the idea of a local imap server. I have a RPi that will do the > job, sitting ready and waiting. How easy is it to get phone/tablet to > connect while I'm away? though. A good URI would be an excellent > answer. > Less

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - Does this avoid the hijack?

On 2020-11-23 12:19, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 23 nov 20, 14:27:36, Keith Bainbridge wrote: So does htis get a new subject in the list? Good afternon All I was interested to read that Flo, the OP, uses separate mail collection, sendmail and thunderbird. Some of the replies sound like this

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d

On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 09:50:34 -0600 John Hasler wrote: >> I use Fetchmail to fetch my mail every five minutes from Newsguy. >> This means that my mail is never on anyone else's server for more >> than a few minutes. Fetchmail hands it off to Exim which passes it >> through Mailagent and

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d

On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 14:19:16 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> On Lu, 23 nov 20, 14:27:36, Keith Bainbridge wrote: >>> > So does htis get a new subject in the list? >>> > >>> > Good afternon All >>> > >>> > I was interested to read that Flo, the OP, uses separate mail >>> > collection, sendmail

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 23:34:56 -0600 David Wright wrote: >>> On Mon 23 Nov 2020 at 14:27:36 (+1100), Keith Bainbridge wrote: >>> > So does htis get a new subject in the list? Interesting. I'll try it next time I want to use a comment from one thread as a separate topic. BUT I wrote a totally

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - Does this avoid the hijack?

I use Fetchmail to fetch my mail every five minutes from Newsguy. This means that my mail is never on anyone else's server for more than a few minutes. Fetchmail hands it off to Exim which passes it through Mailagent and Spamassassin and then delivers it to my inbox. Outgoing mail is delivered

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - Does this avoid the hijack?

On Lu, 23 nov 20, 14:27:36, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > So does htis get a new subject in the list? > > Good afternon All > > I was interested to read that Flo, the OP, uses separate mail > collection, sendmail and thunderbird. Some of the replies sound like > this is a common practice. > > What

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - trying to NOT hijack

On 2020-11-23 at 05:43, Joe wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 13:21:25 +1100 Keith Bainbridge > wrote: >> PS Am I wrong to avoid 'everyting in 1 file' where possible (mail >> dir rather than mbox in this case)? OK this is probably a whole >> separate topic. > > As I've posted elsewhere, I have

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - trying to NOT hijack

On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 13:21:25 +1100 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Good afternon All > > I was interested to read that Flo, the OP, uses separate mail > collection, sendmail and thunderbird. Some of the replies sound like > this is a common practice. > > What are the advantages of this set of

Re: Why use an email client AND sendmail/popa3d - Does this avoid the hijack?

On Mon 23 Nov 2020 at 14:27:36 (+1100), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > So does htis get a new subject in the list? It would appear so. I guess you could also have removed the Re: from the subject line. > I was interested to read that Flo, the OP, uses separate mail > collection, sendmail and

Re: Why does my display turn back on immediately after turning off?

I wrote: ... > I have removed both Power Manager and Xscreensaver from the system, and > the problem remains with just basic DPMS: I issue 'xset dpms force > off', the monitor turns off, and then turns right back on. 'xset q' > shows that DPMS 'Standby', 'Suspend', and 'Off' are all set to '60'

Re: why buster doesn't enter sleep mode

On Sun 01 Nov 2020 at 20:49:48 (+), Long Wind wrote: > On Sunday, November 1, 2020, 2:46:28 PM EST, Long Wind > wrote: > > > > tty2 doesn't enter sleep mode after long period of keyboard inactivityby > > sleep mode i mean monitor isn't turned offi believe that sound playing on > > tty3

Re: Why does Debian not include POSIX-specified commands like bc and ed by default?

On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 07:41:19 (-0500), Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2020 12 Sep 02:06 -0500, Lone Learner wrote: > > POSIX.1-2001 Utilities[1] and POSIX.1-2008 Utilities[2] both list the > > commands "bc" and "ed" to be part of POSIX. > > > > Yet, in a brand new Debian installation (version 10

Re: Why does Debian not include POSIX-specified commands like bc and ed by default?

* On 2020 12 Sep 02:06 -0500, Lone Learner wrote: > POSIX.1-2001 Utilities[1] and POSIX.1-2008 Utilities[2] both list the > commands "bc" and "ed" to be part of POSIX. > > Yet, in a brand new Debian installation (version 10 for example), > these commands are missing by default: > > $ bc > bash:

Re: Why does Debian not include POSIX-specified commands like bc and ed by default?

On 9/12/20 9:05 AM, Lone Learner wrote: > POSIX.1-2001 Utilities[1] and POSIX.1-2008 Utilities[2] both list the > commands "bc" and "ed" to be part of POSIX. > > Yet, in a brand new Debian installation (version 10 for example), > these commands are missing by default: > > $ bc > bash: bc:

Re: Why does Debian not include POSIX-specified commands like bc and ed by default?

12 sept. 2020 09:06:19 Lone Learner : > Why does Debian not include these [posix] commands by default? > I guess many debian users don't care about these commands, so it would be rude to impose something wanted by only a part of the users.  And there's the case of tiny embedded scarce systems

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On 2020-09-11 07:21, David Wright wrote: On Thu 10 Sep 2020 at 16:15:05 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: On 2020-09-09 23:02, David wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 11:26, David Christensen wrote: On 2020-09-09 08:03, David Wright wrote: ... having been bitten by

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Fri 11 Sep 2020 at 13:03:44 (+1000), David wrote: > On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 08:30, David Christensen > wrote: > > On 2020-09-10 09:44, David Wright wrote: > > > > I don't like parted particularly, and don't know what "free" does. > > > Can you elucidate? > > > > $ man parted | grep -i free >

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Thu 10 Sep 2020 at 16:15:05 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-09-09 23:02, David wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 11:26, David Christensen > > wrote: > > > On 2020-09-09 08:03, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > ... having been bitten by > > > >

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On 2020-09-10 20:03, David wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 08:30, David Christensen... wrote: On 2020-09-10 09:44, David Wright wrote: I don't like parted particularly, and don't know what "free" does. Can you elucidate? $ man parted | grep -i free $ info --output=/dev/stdout --subnodes

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 09:15, David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-09-09 23:02, David wrote: > > parted /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST3300622AS_ 'unit compact print > > free unit s print free unit b print free' > That parted(8) incantation has issues It works for me, but then again my disks are

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 08:30, David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-09-10 09:44, David Wright wrote: > > I don't like parted particularly, and don't know what "free" does. > > Can you elucidate? > > $ man parted | grep -i free > > $ info --output=/dev/stdout --subnodes parted | grep -i free > I

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On 2020-09-09 23:02, David wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 11:26, David Christensen wrote: On 2020-09-09 08:03, David Wright wrote: ... having been bitten by https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=923561 I have a 300 GB drive that has been causing me some confusion. Did I

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On 2020-09-10 09:44, David Wright wrote: On Thu 10 Sep 2020 at 16:02:59 (+1000), David wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 11:26, David Christensen wrote: ,,, I'm not sure what to ask for in terms of the encryption: See cryptsetup(8) with the 'isLuks' action and/or the '-v' option. For

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Thu 10 Sep 2020 at 16:02:59 (+1000), David wrote: > On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 11:26, David Christensen > wrote: > > On 2020-09-09 08:03, David Wright wrote: > > > > ... having been bitten by > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=923561 > > > I have a 300 GB drive that has

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 11:26, David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-09-09 08:03, David Wright wrote: > > ... having been bitten by > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=923561 > I have a 300 GB drive that has been causing me some confusion. Did I > elicity the bug when I

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On 2020-09-09 08:03, David Wright wrote: ... having been bitten by https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=923561 I have a 300 GB drive that has been causing me some confusion. Did I elicity the bug when I partitioned the disk as follows? 2020-03-03 08:39:57 root@po ~ #

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

David Wright writes: > On Wed 09 Sep 2020 at 08:53:20 (-0600), Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> rhkra...@gmail.com writes: >> > On Tuesday, September 08, 2020 04:39:05 PM David Christensen wrote: >> >> Neither the string "2 MiB" nor the string "2 M" appear on page you have >> >> cited. >> > >> > That is

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Wed 09 Sep 2020 at 08:53:20 (-0600), Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com writes: > > On Tuesday, September 08, 2020 04:39:05 PM David Christensen wrote: > >> Neither the string "2 MiB" nor the string "2 M" appear on page you have > >> cited. > > > > That is correct, that's is what I have

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

rhkra...@gmail.com writes: > On Tuesday, September 08, 2020 04:39:05 PM David Christensen wrote: >> Neither the string "2 MiB" nor the string "2 M" appear on page you have >> cited. > > That is correct, that's is what I have not found on that page. > >> Please provide a URL that advocates

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Tue 08 Sep 2020 at 17:43:21 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, September 08, 2020 04:39:05 PM David Christensen wrote: > > Neither the string "2 MiB" nor the string "2 M" appear on page you have > > cited. > > That is correct, that's is what I have not found on that page. > > >

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On 2020-09-08 14:43, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, September 08, 2020 04:39:05 PM David Christensen wrote: Neither the string "2 MiB" nor the string "2 M" appear on page you have cited. That is correct, that's is what I have not found on that page. Please provide a URL that

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Tuesday, September 08, 2020 04:39:05 PM David Christensen wrote: > Neither the string "2 MiB" nor the string "2 M" appear on page you have > cited. That is correct, that's is what I have not found on that page. > Please provide a URL that advocates "start the first partition at 2 MIB" Maybe

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Tue, Sep 08, 2020 at 12:53:00PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes that leaves room for whatever may need to be at the beginning of the disk (like maybe the MBR, or LILO, or ???)? The current basic default is

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Tuesday, September 08, 2020 12:53:00 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes that leaves room for whatever may need to be at the beginning of the disk (like maybe the MBR, or LILO, or ???)? I've seen the advice to align

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

On Tue, 2020-09-08 at 12:53 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes > that leaves room for whatever may need to be at the beginning of the disk > (like maybe the MBR, or LILO, or ???)? I believe it's for 'disks' based on

Re: Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 bytes ...

Sorry, the Wikipedia article is Advanced Format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Format On Tuesday, September 08, 2020 12:53:00 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Why start the first partition at 2 MIB, why not at any multiple of 4096 > bytes that leaves room for whatever may need to be at the

Re: folders (was Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED])

On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 12:40:21PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] > > I think it's an antipattern, but of course anyone's mileage may vary. > > Having had to explain "computer stuff" to various people over the time > (often older than me) I found the folder analogy to be easier to >

Re: folders (was Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED])

On Ma, 01 sep 20, 15:53:17, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 06:48:22AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2020-09-01 at 04:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is > > >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On 2020-09-01 23:11, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:03:27AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 04:29:55 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do

Re: folders (was Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED])

In fact it used to be called directory, before GUI shells emerged. So MS DOS to dispaly content of "folder" used command named dir. Cheers, Marek Mosiewicz W dniu wto, 01.09.2020 o godzinie 06∶48 -0400, użytkownik The Wanderer napisał: > On 2020-09-01 at 04:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:34:59AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 04:08:45PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > That depends on context, program, etc. But if you give the program > > an absolute path, every directory from the root down to the file > > has to be readable for

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 04:08:45PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > That depends on context, program, etc. But if you give the program > an absolute path, every directory from the root down to the file > has to be readable for your program. Every directory in the path must have the +x bit for

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:03:27AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 04:29:55 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is > >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? > > (My day to make extraneous

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 11:02:18PM +1000, elvis wrote: > > On 1/9/20 6:29 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:57:28PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>Just to be clear, the folder I had to change permissions on is the > >> >>document root, > >To be able to access

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 04:29:55 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? (My day to make extraneous responses? ;-) Historical: file folders hold documents in file cabinets...

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 9:34 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 09:30:15AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > Directories go back, even before Windows: The MSDOS Equivalent to ls is > > dir, which I "guess" means "List Directory". > > > > Ah yes, the "Good old days". > > Yup, but very

Re: folders (was Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED])

On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 06:48:22AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-09-01 at 04:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is > >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? > > As I understand matters, it's an extension of the

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 09:30:15AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > Directories go back, even before Windows: The MSDOS Equivalent to ls is > dir, which I "guess" means "List Directory". > > Ah yes, the "Good old days". Yup, but very few of the Microsoft Windows users today have a background in

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

elvis wrote: > > On 1/9/20 6:29 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:57:28PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Just to be clear, the folder I had to change permissions on is the > > > > > document root, > > To be able to access a file given its path, you

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 8:05 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:29:55AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is > >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? > > It's a Microsoft Windows thing. Windows

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On 1/9/20 6:29 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:57:28PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: [...] Just to be clear, the folder I had to change permissions on is the To be able to access a file given its path, you need to have read access to each directory [1] along that path.

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:29:55AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? It's a Microsoft Windows thing. Windows presents directories and files graphically, and the icon for a

folders (was Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED])

On 2020-09-01 at 04:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? As I understand matters, it's an extension of the "desktop" metaphor. Back before computers (and to some extent afterward),

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:57:28PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: [...] > Just to be clear, the folder I had to change permissions on is the > document root, To be able to access a file given its path, you need to have read access to each directory [1] along that path. There isn't another way, and

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On 2020-08-31 21:57, Gary Dale wrote: Just to be clear, the folder I had to change permissions on is the I think the document root is just where apache2 looks first. *Don't know if you are supposed to do it like that* but think the actual html files can be anywhere so long as they have the

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On 2020-08-31 15:59, Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-08-31 15:14, Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-08-30 13:24, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 7:08 PM, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 6:27 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Apache 2.4.38-3+deb10u3 on a Debian/Stable server on an AMD64 machine. When I create a

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

On 2020-08-31 15:14, Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-08-30 13:24, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 7:08 PM, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 6:27 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Apache 2.4.38-3+deb10u3 on a Debian/Stable server on an AMD64 machine. When I create a virtual host under /var/www, everything

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2?

On 2020-08-30 13:24, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 7:08 PM, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 6:27 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Apache 2.4.38-3+deb10u3 on a Debian/Stable server on an AMD64 machine. When I create a virtual host under /var/www, everything works as expected. However, if I change

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2?

On 8/30/2020 7:08 PM, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 6:27 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Apache 2.4.38-3+deb10u3 on a Debian/Stable server on an AMD64 machine. When I create a virtual host under /var/www, everything works as expected. However, if I change the virtual host's document root to

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2?

On 8/30/2020 6:27 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Apache 2.4.38-3+deb10u3 on a Debian/Stable server on an AMD64 machine. When I create a virtual host under /var/www, everything works as expected. However, if I change the virtual host's document root to another folder on the same machine, I get

Re: why is zfs taking 6 seconds to unmount each filesystem, to export pool?

On Lu, 06 iul 20, 14:20:05, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Does anyone here at d-u (sid) know why zpool export is doing its umounts > __really__ slowly? Is unmounting faster if you do a 'sync' before? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: why is zfs taking 6 seconds to unmount each filesystem, to export pool?

Does anyone here at d-u (sid) know why zpool export is doing its umounts __really__ slowly? (btw, anyone wanting to dip their toes in the clear zfs waters might want a little tutorial recently written for a few basic zfs steps: ZFS Cheatsheet + Backups tutorial

Re: why foxit hasn't been included in buster?

I use Evince to print pdf's. It's really good. I think you can press alt+enter and see the paper size, i.e. what type of paper you should use to print - short bond, legal, A4 I think it shows up as "Document Viewer" in the menu. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 8:05 PM Klaus Singvogel wrote: > Celejar

Re: why foxit hasn't been included in buster?

Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 10:07:34 +0200 > Erwan David wrote: > > > Le 25/06/2020 à 09:41, Klaus Singvogel a écrit : > > > > > > Btw, if you know a Form capable PDF viewer, which is FOSS, let me know. > > > > > > > Okular does (KDE document viewer, not only PDF) > > As does

Re: why foxit hasn't been included in buster?

On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 10:07:34 +0200 Erwan David wrote: > Le 25/06/2020 à 09:41, Klaus Singvogel a écrit : > > Hi. > > > > Don't want to start a flamewar here. But there a many Free and Open Source > > Software PDF viewers, which can be recommended for different uses. > > > > All of the

Re: why foxit hasn't been included in buster?

Le 25/06/2020 à 09:41, Klaus Singvogel a écrit : > Hi. > > Don't want to start a flamewar here. But there a many Free and Open Source > Software PDF viewers, which can be recommended for different uses. > > All of the OpenSource PDF viewers have their dis-/advantanges and none is > the best. If

Re: why foxit hasn't been included in buster?

Hi. Don't want to start a flamewar here. But there a many Free and Open Source Software PDF viewers, which can be recommended for different uses. All of the OpenSource PDF viewers have their dis-/advantanges and none is the best. If you have to fillout Forms, I've never seen an OpenSource PDF

Re: why foxit hasn't been included in buster?

On 6/25/20, Long Wind wrote: > Thank Ben, i've just installed qpdfview. Just in case it's useful: for something really fast and light you can try 'zathura'. Best regards!

Re: why foxit hasn't been included in buster?

Thank Ben, i've just installed qpdfview. On Thursday, June 25, 2020, 1:22:21 AM EDT, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 25/06/2020 17:01, Long Wind wrote: >  oh, i see, it's not free, so it isn't included in debian mainthen i will try >evince qpdfview is also nice. Qt application so takes

Re: why foxit hasn't been included in buster?

On 25/06/2020 17:01, Long Wind wrote: oh, i see, it's not free, so it isn't included in debian mainthen i will try evince qpdfview is also nice. Qt application so takes a little fiddling to get consistent theming if you are using Gnome or other GTK-based desktop. Kind regards, -- Ben

Re: why foxit hasn't been included in buster?

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 6:45 AM Long Wind wrote: > > some say it's among best pdf reader for linux > how to install it in buster or stretch? Not sure why you expect it to be included, it looks like commercial software. Is the source even available on their website?

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

On Tue 16 Jun 2020 at 21:28:11 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > 16 juin 2020 16:30 de deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: > > > It might be easier for people to follow the substance of this thread > > if you posted in such a way as to include one simple self-descriptive > > test in each post, and not

Re: [OT] Regular DKIM issues on this ML (was: Re: why !oh why Debian and application list)

On 18/06/20 8:08 am, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:02:11AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: >> > See for more details. > >> I understand the phenomenon. I don't understand why modern software (eg >> the list software) still does it. >

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