Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-13 Thread Linux-Fan
David Christensen writes: On 2/12/24 08:30, Linux-Fan wrote: David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple threads: https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml What algorithm did you implement? I copied the

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-12 Thread David Christensen
On 2/12/24 08:30, Linux-Fan wrote: David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple threads: https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml What algorithm did you implement? I copied the algorithm from here:

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:02 PM Linux-Fan wrote: > > David Christensen writes: > > > On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: > >> I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple > >> threads: > >> https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml > >> > >> Before knowing about `fio` this way my

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-12 Thread Linux-Fan
David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple threads: https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml Before knowing about `fio` this way my way to benchmark SSDs :) Example: | $ big4 -b /dev/null 100 GiB | Ma_Sys.ma Big

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/24 02:26, Linux-Fan wrote: I wrote a program to automatically generate random bytes in multiple threads: https://masysma.net/32/big4.xhtml Before knowing about `fio` this way my way to benchmark SSDs :) Example: | $ big4 -b /dev/null 100 GiB | Ma_Sys.ma Big 4.0.2, Copyright (c) 2014,

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/24 03:13, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: Concurrency: threads throughput 8 205+198+180+195+205+184+184+189=1,540 MB/s There remains the question how to join these streams without losing speed in order to produce a single checksum. (Or one would have to

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/24 00:07, Thomas Schmitt wrote: In the other thread about the /dev/sdm test: Gene Heskett wrote: Creating file 39.h2w ... 1.98% -- 1.90 MB/s -- 257:11:32 [...] $ sudo f3probe --destructive --time-ops /dev/sdm Bad news: The device `/dev/sdm' is a counterfeit of type limbo Device

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 9:52 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > David Christensen wrote: > > Concurrency: > > threads throughput > > 8 205+198+180+195+205+184+184+189=1,540 MB/s > > There remains the question how to join these streams without losing speed > in order to produce a single checksum.

Re: Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-11 Thread Gremlin
On 2/11/24 05:26, Linux-Fan wrote: David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 00:11, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] Increase block size: 2024-02-11 01:18:51 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1K 1024+0 records in 1024+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB)

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Christensen wrote: > Concurrency: > threads throughput > 8 205+198+180+195+205+184+184+189=1,540 MB/s There remains the question how to join these streams without losing speed in order to produce a single checksum. (Or one would have to divide the target into 8 areas which get

Fast Random Data Generation (Was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-11 Thread Linux-Fan
David Christensen writes: On 2/11/24 00:11, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] Increase block size: 2024-02-11 01:18:51 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1K 1024+0 records in 1024+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 3.62874 s, 296 MB/s Here

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2/11/24 00:11, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, David Christensen wrote: $ time dd if=/dev/urandom bs=8K count=128K | wc -c [...] 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 4.30652 s, 249 MB/s This looks good enough for practical use on spinning rust and slow SSD. Yes. Maybe the "wc" pipe

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Christensen wrote: > $ time dd if=/dev/urandom bs=8K count=128K | wc -c > [...] > 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 4.30652 s, 249 MB/s This looks good enough for practical use on spinning rust and slow SSD. Maybe the "wc" pipe slows it down ? ... not much on 4 GHz Xeon with

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > In the other thread about the /dev/sdm test: Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Creating file 39.h2w ... 1.98% -- 1.90 MB/s -- 257:11:32 > > > [...] > > > $ sudo f3probe --destructive --time-ops /dev/sdm > > > Bad news: The device `/dev/sdm' is a counterfeit of type limbo > > > Device

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread David Christensen
On 2/10/24 10:28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: In the other thread about the /dev/sdm test: Creating file 39.h2w ... 1.98% -- 1.90 MB/s -- 257:11:32 but is taking a few bytes now and then. [...] $ ls -l total 40627044 [...] $ sudo f3probe --destructive --time-ops /dev/sdm Bad news: The device

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread David Christensen
On 2/10/24 02:38, Thomas Schmitt wrote: I have an own weak-random generator, but shred beats it by a factor of 10 when writing to /dev/null. As a baseline, here is a 2011 Dell Latitude E6520 with Debian generating a non-repeatable 1 GiB stream of cryptographically secure pseudo-random

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread gene heskett
On 2/10/24 13:30, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, gene heskett wrote: my fading eyesight couldn't see the diffs between () and {} in a 6 point font. I need a bigger, more legible font in t-bird. That's why i propose to copy+paste problematic command lines. Your mouse can read it, your mail

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, gene heskett wrote: > my fading eyesight couldn't see > the diffs between () and {} in a 6 point font. I need a bigger, more > legible font in t-bird. That's why i propose to copy+paste problematic command lines. Your mouse can read it, your mail client can send it, and we have youngsters

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread gene heskett
On 2/10/24 05:39, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: Is bash not actually bash these days? It is not doing for loops for me. Come on Gene, be no sophie. Copy+paste your failing line here. :)) Alexander M. posted it a few days ago but my fading eyesight couldn't see the diffs

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> AFAIK the bogus 128TB drives do properly report such ridiculous sizes: >> the reality only hits when you try to actually store that amount of >> information on them. >> [ I'm not sure how it works under the hood, but since SSDs store their >>data "anywhere" in the flash, they can easily

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > Is bash not actually bash these days? It is not doing for loops for me. Come on Gene, be no sophie. Copy+paste your failing line here. :)) IIRC the for-loop in question writes several copies of the same file. (

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-10 Thread gene heskett
On 2/7/24 23:28, Stefan Monnier wrote: Well the 2T memory everybody was curious about 3 weeks ago got here early. From dmesg after plugging one in: [629240.916163] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 39 using xhci_hcd [629241.066221] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=048d,

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-09 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi all, Am 08.02.2024 um 21:38 schrieb Andy Smith: Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 05:40:54PM +0100, Ralph Aichinger wrote: On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:36 +, Andy Smith wrote: I learned not to go there a long time ago and have seen plenty of reminders along the way from others' misfortunes

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Richmond
Charles Curley writes: > On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 18:02:36 -0500 > Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > Test it with Validrive. >> > https://www.grc.com/validrive.htm >> >> Looks like proprietary software for Windows. > > badblocks, available in a Debian repo near you, might be a suitable > replacement.

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 18:02:36 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Test it with Validrive. > > https://www.grc.com/validrive.htm > > Looks like proprietary software for Windows. badblocks, available in a Debian repo near you, might be a suitable replacement. -- Does anybody read signatures any

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Test it with Validrive. > https://www.grc.com/validrive.htm Looks like proprietary software for Windows. Stefan

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-08 Thread Richmond
gene heskett writes: > Well the 2T memory everybody was curious about 3 weeks ago got here early. > > From dmesg after plugging one in: > [629240.916163] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 39 using xhci_hcd > [629241.066221] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=048d, > idProduct=1234,

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 16:28, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:22:49PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. That line was meant to read I really do mean all forms of storage

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:22:49PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. > > That line was meant to read > > I really do mean all forms of storage that come over a USB port.

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 16:16, Andy Smith wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 03:56:19PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: I wouldn't have much issue with taking a USB drive out of its caddy to get the SATA drive from inside, except that it would have to be an amazingly good deal to make

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 04:00:01PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > I have been using USB attached HDDs and SSDs for 10 years now and > have never had one unexpectedly go off line. Your postings > suggest you don't know what your talking about. Okay then. Despite this uncharitable comment, I do

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 03:56:19PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: > > I wouldn't have much issue with taking a USB drive out of its caddy > > to get the SATA drive from inside, except that it would have to be > > an amazingly good deal to make it worth voiding the

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 15:35, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 12:23:45AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/02/2024 22:36, Andy Smith wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 15:43, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 02:20:59PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ralph Aichinger wrote: How does a breaking USB disk differ from a breaking SATA disk? I may be mistaken, but I believe AS is talking about USB thumb

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 08:43:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > I really do mean all forms of USB that come over a USB port. That line was meant to read I really do mean all forms of storage that come over a USB port. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 02:20:59PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ralph Aichinger wrote: > > How does a breaking USB disk differ from a breaking SATA disk? > > I may be mistaken, but I believe AS is talking about USB thumb drives, > SDcards and the like. I

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 05:40:54PM +0100, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:36 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > I learned not to go there a long time ago and have seen plenty of > > reminders along the way from others' misfortunes to not ever go > > there again myself. > > How

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 12:23:45AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 08/02/2024 22:36, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 > > > > USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ralph Aichinger wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:36 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious > > computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say > > they use it all the time and it is fine. > > I am

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/02/2024 22:36, Andy Smith wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious computing. Do you mean that a proper backup drive should use uas (USB Attached

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 15:36 +, Andy Smith wrote: > USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious > computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say > they use it all the time and it is fine.  I am clearly in the latter camp. This mail is delivered via a Raspberry

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 11:14:24AM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On 2/8/24 10:36, Andy Smith wrote: > > USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious > > computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say > > they use it all the time and it is fine. They will keep saying

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Gremlin
On 2/8/24 10:36, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say they use it all

Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say they use it all the time and it is fine. They will

Re: Unidentified subject!

2024-02-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Well the 2T memory everybody was curious about 3 weeks ago got here early. > > From dmesg after plugging one in: > [629240.916163] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 39 using xhci_hcd > [629241.066221] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=048d, > idProduct=1234, bcdDevice= 2.00 >

Re: Unidentified subject!

2020-06-30 Thread songbird
Dan Ritter wrote: ... > You want to ignore the USB ports and focus on the attached > devices. udev is the mechanism here. > > For example, in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-ups I have: > > SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="0764", ATTR{idProduct}=="0501", > SYMLINK+="ups0", GROUP="nut" > > Which means

Re: Unidentified subject!

2019-10-20 Thread Reco
Hi. Mail headers are mangled, but: On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 07:45:26AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > And the problem that you're trying to solve by such "predictable" audio > > devices is? > > AUDIODEV=hw:0,0 play MY/m85.WAV AUDIODEV=dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 play MY/m85.WAV Use "aplay

Re: DHCP failure (was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2016-09-29 Thread Floris
Op Thu, 29 Sep 2016 01:18:02 +0200 schreef Dan Ritter : On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 03:30:04PM -0700, hol...@cox.net wrote: Clean install of deb8 (jessie)on my Thinkpad T4220i laptop. went well except for the fact that the network configuration with DCP failed. I was

DHCP failure (was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2016-09-28 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 03:30:04PM -0700, hol...@cox.net wrote: > Clean install of deb8 (jessie)on my Thinkpad T4220i laptop. went well > except for the fact that the network configuration > with DCP failed. > > I was given 3 options. > 1) try it again. This was hope over experience. > 2)

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-07-18 Thread Miguel Matos
El día 18 de julio de 2013 10:58, kyd.is.b...@gmail.com escribió: Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:28:04 -0300 From: pizta...@crow.satelite.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: debian 7 erro al actualizar alquitar google chrome Message-ID:

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 08:55 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 2013-06-23 08:48, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 23:36 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: If you have important data on the laptop, you should plug in an external drive and dd the entire laptop drive to an image file

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-06-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 22/06/13 04:38 PM, Lagun Adeshina wrote: Hi Guys, I need your help. 1. I set out to install Debian from Windows 7 2. I downloaded the win 32 Debian Installer and went through the procedures 3. On reaching the partitioning option I got a little confused I had used the RAID5 Partition then

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-06-22 Thread Lagun Adeshina
From: Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, 22 June 2013, 21:47 Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! On 22/06/13 04:38 PM, Lagun Adeshina wrote: Hi Guys, I need your help. 1. I set out to install Debian from Windows 7

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-06-22 Thread Gary Dale
On 22/06/13 08:32 PM, Lagun Adeshina wrote: *From:* Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com *To:* debian-user@lists.debian.org *Cc:* debian-user@lists.debian.org *Sent:* Saturday, 22 June 2013, 21:47 *Subject:* Re: Unidentified subject! On 22/06/13 04:38 PM, Lagun Adeshina wrote: Hi Guys, I

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-06-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-06-23 at 01:32 +0100, Lagun Adeshina wrote: All I did was try to install Debian 7 and the RAID5 was just some option that came up during partitioning. I read about it and understood it was supposed to keep whole old stuff sale. That was my understanding and I'm left with no OS

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-06-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 23:36 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: If you have important data on the laptop, you should plug in an external drive and dd the entire laptop drive to an image file on the external drive (which must have at least as much free space as the laptop drive's size). A very good

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-06-22 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 2013-06-23 08:48, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 23:36 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: If you have important data on the laptop, you should plug in an external drive and dd the entire laptop drive to an image file on the external drive (which must have at least as much free space as the

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-06-09 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le samedi 08 juin 2013 à 18:09, fred a écrit : Bonjour, Bonjour, j'ai quelques difficultés avec la correction d'orthographe sous mutt. Pas d'idée quant à ton problème puisque je n'utilise pas la correction orthographique de mutt. Une autre solution pour arriver au même résultat, tu peux

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-03-12 Thread juke
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:44:26AM +0100, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Dans le cas présent ce n'est pas un logiciel qui est non maintenu mais une version du dit logiciel. Ça fait une grande différence. C'est difficile avec du logiciel libre de definir un logiciel non maintenu, dans le meilleur des

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-03-11 Thread juke
Bonjour Que devons nous faire ? Enlever iceweasel de debian ? Julien. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-03-11 Thread caleb KHM
On 11/03/2013 10:15, j...@free.fr wrote: Bonjour Que devons nous faire ? Enlever iceweasel de debian ? Julien. Oui, moi je propose que iceweasle soit enlevé et Mozilla firefow et Mozilla thunderbird soit adoptés. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question :

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-03-11 Thread juke
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:16:35AM +, caleb KHM wrote: Oui, moi je propose que iceweasle soit enlevé et Mozilla firefow et Mozilla thunderbird soit adoptés. Pourquoi ? Devons nous aussi retirer tout les logiciels non maintenus ? Comment definissons nous le non maintenu pour un logiciel

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-03-11 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le lundi 11 mars 2013 à 10:16, caleb KHM a écrit : On 11/03/2013 10:15, j...@free.fr wrote: Que devons nous faire ? Enlever iceweasel de debian ? Oui, moi je propose que iceweasle soit enlevé et Mozilla firefow et Mozilla thunderbird soit adoptés. Ça ne résoudra rien. Qu'il s'agisse de

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-03-11 Thread caleb KHM
On 11/03/2013 10:54, Sébastien NOBILI wrote: Le lundi 11 mars 2013 à 10:16, caleb KHM a écrit : On 11/03/2013 10:15, j...@free.fr wrote: Que devons nous faire ? Enlever iceweasel de debian ? Oui, moi je propose que iceweasle soit enlevé et Mozilla firefow et Mozilla

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-03-11 Thread stephane . gargoly
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Dans son message du 10/03/13 à 18:56, Seb a écrit : De plus, Firefox et Thunderbird violent le premier point du contrat social (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). Exact, ce sont les nom et logo de chaque produit Mozilla qui

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-03-11 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:40:02 +0100 j...@free.fr a écrit: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:16:35AM +, caleb KHM wrote: Oui, moi je propose que iceweasle soit enlevé et Mozilla firefow et Mozilla thunderbird soit adoptés. Pourquoi ? Devons nous aussi retirer tout les logiciels non maintenus ?

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-03-10 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Mouais mais ça pose quand même pas mal de problèmes. Par exemple si on prend iceweasel qui lors du début du freeze était en version 10 ESR. Vous me direz c'est une version ESR donc support à long terme. Oui sauf que le support des ESR est de 1 an et qu'il s'est terminé en février je crois. L'ESR

Re: Unidentified subject!

2013-03-10 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonsoir, Le dimanche 10 mars 2013 à 18:57, stephane.garg...@laposte.net a écrit : Et je ne pense pas que, pour leur crédibilité, les Développeurs (et autres Responsables) Debian aient la naïveté (et encore moins l'inconscience) de recommander Stable à tous ceux (administrateurs de serveur ou

Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-09-03 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:05:12 +0300, David Baron wrote: Aren't we all sick of seeing this? Well, is a bit annoying, yes. The listings with the messed up headers are next to useless. The only way to get sane headers is to post on-line, I suppose. Someone in the Debian universe has to be

Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-09-03 Thread Lisi
On Monday 03 September 2012 16:05:12 David Baron wrote: Aren't we all sick of seeing this? The listings with the messed up headers are next to useless. The only way to get sane headers is to post on-line, I suppose. Someone in the Debian universe has to be able to fix this list! I have no

Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-09-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 18:05 +0300, David Baron wrote: Aren't we all sick of seeing this? The listings with the messed up headers are next to useless. The only way to get sane headers is to post on-line, I suppose. Someone in the Debian universe has to be able to fix this list! I guess this

Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-05-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! [ ] References: 20120505131629.808b3...@bendel.debian.org 201205052208.05159.d_ba...@012.net.il CAMPM96oMC7RGghxKrOfNBksHKXw72Zp_huuD1Z2rO0XQ=9k...@mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: CAMPM96oMC7RGghxKrOfNBksHKXw72Zp_huuD1Z2rO0XQ=9k...@mail.gmail.com X-Enigmail

Re: Unidentified subject!

2012-05-06 Thread David Baron
Note that this posting has a normal subject, i.e. Re: Unidentified subject! If it does not appear thus, then the problem is somewhere in lists.debian.org. Almost all, but not all, messages recently have subject like Unidentified subject! [ ] in the topics list and Unidentified subect

Re: Unidentified subject!

2012-05-06 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 06.05.2012 18:26, David Baron kirjoitti: Note that this posting has a normal subject, i.e. Re: Unidentified subject! If it does not appear thus, then the problem is somewhere in lists.debian.org. Almost all, but not all, messages recently

Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-05-05 Thread David Baron
These are really getting annoying. Is this a problem with the list server or what?

Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-05-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: These are really getting annoying. Is this a problem with the list server or what? Messages with unidentified subjects? Means someone sent the list mail without a subject line. Otherwise, you're going to need to be more

Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-05-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 21:51 +0200, an unknown sender wrote: On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: These are really getting annoying. Is this a problem with the list server or what? Messages with unidentified subjects? Means someone sent the list mail

Re: Unidentified subject! [ ]

2012-05-05 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 05.05.2012 22:23, Paul Johnson kirjoitti: On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: These are really getting annoying. Is this a problem with the list server or what? Messages with unidentified subjects? Means

RAM from the stonagae - Was: Re: Unidentified subject! ;)

2012-05-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 08:24 +0200, an unknown sender wrote: Heh! Coincidentally, I was looking through my old chip box last night to see if I had a 6502 (I did), and found a HM6116LP-2 and a couple of HY62256LP-10 chips :-) You know this old reverb? It's full of old RAM, we call it

Re: Unidentified subject! -- hope this will be fixed soo

2012-05-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
*chuckle* Camaleón you're right, I switched from Thunderbird and other Mozilla mailers to Evolution, because it's easier to share mails between several installs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Unidentified subject! -- hope this will be fixed soo

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 May 2012 18:31:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: No, the Subject issue is still not solved and what's worst, you e-mails come with bad References/In-Reply-To so they are kept unthreaded: *** References: 1336148525.3899.10.camel@precise In-Reply-To: 1336148525.3899.10.camel@precise ***

Re: Unidentified subject!

2012-05-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 19:34 +0200, an unknown sender wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2012 10:21:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't have the time to read all mails at the moment. Is this issue already known: On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 08:24 +0200, an unknown sender wrote: debian-user-digest

Re: Unidentified subject!

2012-05-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 19:34 +0200, an unknown sender wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2012 18:31:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: No, the Subject issue is still not solved and what's worst, you e-mails come with bad References/In-Reply-To so they are kept unthreaded: *** References:

Re: Unidentified subject!

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 May 2012 19:41:33 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 19:34 +0200, an unknown sender wrote: As I already said some time ago, a digest format is not good for replying but reading messages unless you have a capable MUA or add by yourself the required header fields.

Re: Unidentified subject!

2012-02-02 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:28:26 -0800, peasthope wrote: In-Reply-To=171057409.40993.30490@cantor.invalid References: 171057407.61445.51762@cantor.invalid 20120201072109.GE10895@think.nuvreauspam 171057409.40993.30490@cantor.invalid Subject: Re: Re (6): /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt This copy

(OT-Digests) Re: Unidentified subject!

2011-12-22 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:27:19 -0800, peasthope wrote: * In-reply-to: 20111220205521.GJ3296@think.nuvreauspam * References: 171057234.68576.57886@heaviside.invalid 20111219184739.ge...@hysteria.proulx.com 171057235.49702.39796@heaviside.invalid

Re: Unidentified subject!

2011-12-11 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 02:08:29 +0400, Анатолий wrote: Both: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso

Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-13 Thread Lisi
On Friday 12 August 2011 22:30:40 gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com wrote: From Camaleón's comment, it sounds like using a wireless network to do an install is generally a problem, has anyone had success with a wireless install? I'm worried if I ever need to reinstall when I'm not in my home, it

Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-13 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sat, August 13, 2011 3:21:17 AM Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem) On Friday 12 August 2011 22:30:40 gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com wrote: From Camaleón's comment, it sounds like using a wireless network to do an install

Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-13 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:29:25 -0700, gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry, you're right that was the wired interface, I must have cut n pasted the wrong line, my wireless is: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) Ah,

Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-13 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:30:40 -0700, gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com wrote: I started another install, had the same problem not detecting my WPA network. It still couldn't detect either of the two unprotected networks, even when I specified their ESSIDs. WPA won't work. WEP encrypted network

Re: Unidentified subject!

2011-08-12 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 06:13:12 -0700, gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm trying to do a fresh install of 6.0.2.1, but there is a glitch bringing up the wireless network on my 1420N Inspiron laptop. It uses the iwl3945 driver: 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink

Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-12 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
it blinks like mad when the installer says it's trying to detect wireless networks. So it really seems like its trying. Thanks. - Original Message From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Fri, August 12, 2011 12:39:47 PM Subject: Re: Unidentified

Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-12 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
I started another install, had the same problem not detecting my WPA network. It still couldn't detect either of the two unprotected networks, even when I specified their ESSIDs. Pulled from the syslog, here you see it finding the firmware: Aug 12 20:49:41 check-missing-firmware: missing

Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-12 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:30:40 -0700 (PDT) gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com suggested this: From Camaleón's comment, it sounds like using a wireless network to do an install is generally a problem, has anyone had success with a wireless install? I'm worried if I ever

Re: Unidentified subject! (wireless installation problem)

2011-08-12 Thread gnubayonne-debian...@yahoo.com
to be at the whim of people who's profit model doesn't really take into consideration whether I can communicate securely. - Original Message From: Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Fri, August 12, 2011 10:16:12 PM Subject: Re: Unidentified subject

Re: Unidentified subject!

2011-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4dc426d9.7030...@vru.uho.edu.cu, Alexey Leyva wrote: help You'll have to be more specific. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/

Re: Unidentified subject!

2010-12-28 Thread croison
Le vendredi 24 décembre 2010 à 14:32 +0100, Halim a écrit : Bonjour, Voila aussi blizzard que sa vous semble mais je n'arrive pas ... Je veux rejoindre la communauté des développeurs Debian j'ai lu et relu presque toutes les pages du site ... Pouvez vous SVP m'expliquer comment je peut

Re: Unidentified subject!

2010-12-28 Thread suchod
Le 12/24/2010 02:32 PM, Halim a écrit : Bonjour, Voila aussi blizzard que sa vous semble mais je n'arrive pas ... Je veux rejoindre la communauté des développeurs Debian j'ai lu et relu presque toutes les pages du site ... Pouvez vous SVP m'expliquer comment je peut apporter ma

Re: Unidentified subject!

2010-09-23 Thread Anticept .
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:37 PM, debian-user@lists.debian.org wrote: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100923164127.ga5...@deeebian What was

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